Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #192 - 21 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Is this a clutch problem (Phil Norris)
   2. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Hope Peter)
   3. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Hope Peter)
   4. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Jim Laurel)
   5. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Hope Peter)
   6. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Rich Williams)
   7. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Rich Williams)
   8. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Jeff Berg)
   9. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Brian Horner)
  10. Peter Oglivie, where are you? (Alan J. Richer)
  11. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (David Hope)
  12. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Brian Horner)
  13. Disco Clock ([email-masked])
  14. clutch problems (William L Leacock)
  15. Re: Disco Clock (Andrew H. Litkowiak)
  16. Re: Disco Clock (Bill Fishel)
  17. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Hope Peter)
  18. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (Rich Williams)
  19. Re: Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA (John Cranfield)
  20. Keys (A. P. "Sandy" Grice)
  21. '97 D90 FS in Utah (Andre Shoumatoff)

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Message: 1
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Is this a clutch problem
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:43:44 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

fair enough...
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Date: 16 December 2001 00:44
Subject: Re: [lro] Is this a clutch problem

>
>On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Phil Norris wrote:
>
>> 
>> Or learn to double-declutch?
>> only a bit of fancy footwork, not really a big deal.....
>> PhilN
>
>Of course, double declutching doesn't help a whit if you're not moving.
>Grabing third or fourth works quite nicely then.  
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Message: 2
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:19:28 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Can anyone provide feedback on the British Northwest Land Rover Company in
> Olympia, WA?  I am thinking of having them do some corrosion work and
> expedition preparation on my NAS 110.

If you are  considering any dealing with BNW I would consider first spending
some time with a psychologist.

Seriously, I have dealt with them and been screwed royally.  A friend of
mine in Hawaii had one good experiance, but went to hell from there.  I live
in Seattle now and no one I have talked to in this area would touch the guy.

Where are you located Jim?

Pete

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Message: 3
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:22:06 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Living in Seattle it makes since to go down there occasionally though

Rich,
did you make the snow run on Saturday?
if so I don't think I got a chance to meet you.
Pete

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Message: 4
From: "Jim Laurel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:53:34 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm glad I asked the list!  Maybe I should reconsider using East Coast Rover
in Maine after all...

Pete: I'm located near Seattle.

--Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA

>
> > Can anyone provide feedback on the British Northwest Land Rover Company
in
> > Olympia, WA?  I am thinking of having them do some corrosion work and
> > expedition preparation on my NAS 110.
>
> If you are  considering any dealing with BNW I would consider first
spending
> some time with a psychologist.
>
> Seriously, I have dealt with them and been screwed royally.  A friend of
> mine in Hawaii had one good experiance, but went to hell from there.  I
live
> in Seattle now and no one I have talked to in this area would touch the
guy.
>
> Where are you located Jim?
>
> Pete
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Message: 5
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:58:36 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Pete: I'm located near Seattle.
>
> --Jim

Have you talked to Gord'n Perrott?  G&S Services, a rover only shop in
Seattle. 2063617002.

Are you in the PCRC?  There was a 110 2 door at the snow run Yesterday.
Pete

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Message: 6
From: "Rich Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:57:14 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

No Pete - I was hoping to ride shotgun with someone on the snow run but had
to spend the day in the office - will be same for today as well.

At a minimum this weekend I was hoping to work on my truck a bit but I'm not
even going to do that as it seems.  The flip side is that I should be able
to take 3-4 days off next week and work straight through on the truck.

But if you are ever in the area (Bellevue/Redmond), feel free to stop by for
a beer, some wrench turning, whatever.

Rich
Home: 425-497-9199
Office: 425-462-9317
Mobile: 425-466-3984

----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Peter <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA

>
> > Living in Seattle it makes since to go down there occasionally though
>
> Rich,
> did you make the snow run on Saturday?
> if so I don't think I got a chance to meet you.
> Pete
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Message: 7
From: "Rich Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:59:26 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> I'm glad I asked the list!  Maybe I should reconsider using East Coast
Rover
> in Maine after all...

FWIW, I know a local LRO who is having (or going to have) a 109 IIa coiler
hybrid made by East Coast Rover and speaks very highly of them.

Rich

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:06:34 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>FWIW, I know a local LRO who is having (or going to have) a 109 IIa coiler
>hybrid made by East Coast Rover and speaks very highly of them.

Once again, bring your checkbook. But *I* like Mike. :-)

jeff

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:59:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Review on Northwest British:

http: //www.roverme.org

Enjoy!

Brian

On 12/15/01 12:03 PM, "Jim Laurel" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 
> Can anyone provide feedback on the British Northwest Land Rover Company in
> Olympia, WA?  I am thinking of having them do some corrosion work and
> expedition preparation on my NAS 110.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --Jim Laurel
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:57:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Peter Oglivie, where are you?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Give me a shout, mate - need to throw money at you!

                Alan Richer

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:03:00 -0800 (PST)
From: David Hope <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I used ECR. 

Someone warned me that they would cost twice as much
and take take four times longer than expected.  I
would say this was my experience but the work they did
was absolutely first class and I would use them again
without question were it not for the fact that I have
moved from Missouri back to England and I took my Land
Rover with me.

Oh yes, I now also have a 2 week old TD5 hard top,
Quite brilliant.

David Hope
64 SWB SW
02 D90 HT

--- Jim Laurel <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad I asked the list!  Maybe I should
> reconsider using East Coast Rover
> in Maine after all...
> 
> Pete: I'm located near Seattle.
> 
> --Jim
Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:38:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jim,

Give a call to West Coast British.  They have been restoring a Series I and
a Series IIa 109 and they are really looking good.  There is also a review
of them on Roverme.org.

Good Luck!

Brian

On 12/16/01 7:53 AM, "Jim Laurel" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 
> I'm glad I asked the list!  Maybe I should reconsider using East Coast Rover
> in Maine after all...
> 
> Pete: I'm located near Seattle.
> 
> --Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Can anyone provide feedback on the British Northwest Land Rover Company
> in
>>> Olympia, WA?  I am thinking of having them do some corrosion work and
>>> expedition preparation on my NAS 110.
>> 
>> If you are  considering any dealing with BNW I would consider first
> spending
>> some time with a psychologist.
>> 
>> Seriously, I have dealt with them and been screwed royally.  A friend of
>> mine in Hawaii had one good experiance, but went to hell from there.  I
> live
>> in Seattle now and no one I have talked to in this area would touch the
> guy.
>> 
>> Where are you located Jim?
>> 
>> Pete
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Message: 13
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:19:02 EST
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Disco Clock
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have a 96 disco, does the clock light up or is there no way you can tell 
time at night.

Thanks 
Dave Walls
65 IIA 88
96 disco se7

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Message: 14
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:43:32 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] clutch problems
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jeff writes :- 
I have a '71 IIA 88, when I begin letting the clutch out nothing happens,
but
about halfway out it suddenly engages and lurches forward. Then when I
come to
a stop (with the clutch in) I can here something clunking around until it
comes to a complete stop. I can also feel the clunking in the gearshift
lever.
This doesn't happen in reverse and seems to improve as I continue to
drive.
The car has been sitting for a while, about 3 months. It also grinds into
1st
gear about 75% of the time.

  In addition to the advice already posted, examine the clutch linkage
"very closely"  A common cause of clutch "switching" is the failure of
one of the cross pins that perform as a universal joint in linking the
clutch operating mechanism to the clutch pedal system.   These pins
frequently fracture inside the shaft, thus creating a lot of lost motion,
or backlash in the system and making the system operate like a switch,
rather than with hydraulic control.
  Remove the drivers side floor and watch closely the twisting of the
operating shaft as you operate the pedal, "any" lost motion in the
tubular connection is a sure sign of broken pins.  The original LR pins
are hardened and thus shear, rather than bend when loaded.  For many
years I have used a 1/4 dia bolt (not screw!) in this application without
failure. 

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:44:24 -0600
From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Disco Clock
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Yes, but only with special Lucas bulbs....wait for it.....and only
during the day.

Woohoo. Running for cover now :-)

Andy Litkowiak

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> I have a 96 disco, does the clock light up or is there no way you can tell
> time at night.
> 
> Thanks
> Dave Walls
> 65 IIA 88
> 96 disco se7
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Message: 16
From: "Bill Fishel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Disco Clock
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:47:17 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Dave
There is a light that comes on when the ignition is on.
The bulb is probably burnt out. The bulb is in a plastic 
base that turns a quarter turn to get it out. I remember
somebody saying to slip a couple 3 inch wide putty knives 
along the top and bottom of the clock to get it to release 
from the dash.
Bill Fishel

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> From: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [lro] Disco Clock
> Date: Sunday, December 16, 2001 3:19 PM
> 
> 
> I have a 96 disco, does the clock light up or is there no way you can tell 
> time at night.
> 
> Thanks 
> Dave Walls
> 65 IIA 88
> 96 disco se7
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Message: 17
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:52:03 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>The flip side is that I should be able
> to take 3-4 days off next week and work straight through on the truck.
>
> But if you are ever in the area (Bellevue/Redmond), feel free to stop by
for
> a beer, some wrench turning, whatever.
>
> Rich
> Home: 425-497-9199
> Office: 425-462-9317
> Mobile: 425-466-3984

I work from home, so get to work any hours I want.
Let me know if I can lend a hand this week and I will come over
Pete

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Message: 18
From: "Rich Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:00:53 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hey Pete - that'd be great.  At the office right now but should be clear in
a day or 2.

Thanks,

Rich

----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Peter <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA

>The flip side is that I should be able
> to take 3-4 days off next week and work straight through on the truck.
>
> But if you are ever in the area (Bellevue/Redmond), feel free to stop by
for
> a beer, some wrench turning, whatever.
>
> Rich
> Home: 425-497-9199
> Office: 425-462-9317
> Mobile: 425-466-3984

I work from home, so get to work any hours I want.
Let me know if I can lend a hand this week and I will come over
Pete
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:30:04 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Feedback on British Northwest in Olympia WA
Reply-To: [email-masked]

David Hope wrote:

> Oh yes, I now also have a 2 week old TD5 hard top,
> Quite brilliant.

Alright alright enough of that gloating
 :)

John and Muddy

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:46:11 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Keys
Reply-To: [email-masked]

G. Mugele" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>That's interesting.  Do yours have a Land Rover logo on them or do 
>they say "Union" on them or something else?

The original keys for my '72 had "Union" printed on both.  One had a round
head, and the other was kind of square-ish.  Now days, any key (knife
blade, broken spoon, piece of wood) can open one of the doors....

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary-----*
  |                                                    |
  |              A. P. "Sandy" Grice                   |
  |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
  |  (757)423-4898  (757)622-7054  FAX (757)622-7056   |
  |                                                    |
  *----1972 Series III 88"----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Message: 21
From: "Andre Shoumatoff" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:44:18 -0700
Subject: [lro] '97 D90 FS in Utah
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Just to pass it along: a friend of mine is selling her '97 D-90.  37,000
original miles, dark green, soft top, auto gear box.  Immacualte condition,
never off-roaded, no dings, scatches, spills, stains, female driven.  Asking
$41,000.  Deliverable in lower 48 with modest fees.  Contact me
and I'll forward to her.  TIA!!!

Andre

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