Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #185 - 18 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Tempertaures (Edit 2)
   2. I'm back and I'm sorry... (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?=)
   3. Re: Four WD/Two WD Knob problems (Alan J. Richer)
   4. Re: Overdrive (Faure, Marin)
   5. Re: are heater ducts made of PVC pipe safe? (Elwyn FS)
   6. Ignition System - the key v the button (Elwyn FS)
   7. Matt's  photos (James G.Wolf)
   8. Re: Rover Pictures (Brian Horner)
   9. Re: Ignition System - the key v the button (Peter Ogilvie)
  10. Re: are heater ducts made of PVC pipe safe? (Alan J. Richer)
  11. Re: Matt's  photos (Hope Peter)
  12. Series spring over. (Jean-Leon Morin)
  13. Ottawa Valley Land Rovers are alive (Rob Craig)
  14. NAS spec D90 makers plate for sale (Rob Craig)
  15. Container space available from uk 2002 (Rob Craig)
  16. series one saved (Rob Craig)
  17. Re: Series spring over. (Keith Tanner)
  18. Re: Tempertaures (Paul Quin)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:17:17 +0100
From: Edit 2 <[email-masked]>
Organization: Channel 6 Television Denmark
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tempertaures
Reply-To: [email-masked]

OK, OK, OK folks THAT WAS A TYPO!

Water in Denmark boils at 1000C - maybe the extra zero came from the
major (or whatever he's called nowadays) replacing my alt-248 degrees
sign with zero? Maybe it was just a typo. I mean't 100 degrees celcius -
or two hundred and a bit fahrenheit as the new worlders call it.

I don't know how hot the air gets, but  I do know, that all of my trucks
series to defender CSW, put most of their heat into heating the duct
between the firewall and the instrument tray, and a lot less into the
cabin. Right now my collegues from work have taken the 110 on a little
romp through poland, czech republic, slovakia and hungary, where I am
told its sub zero. I expect a few moans about the defender heater when
they return frozen in a weeks time. Beat's me, it sure is warm in this
edit suite on the farm... :-)

I have often wondered whether anyone at solihull has ever remarked on
how it can be possible to freeze your tows, bum and back, at the same
time as burning your fingers looking for your cigarette lighter amongst
the melted mars bars in the instrument tray. Do they ever test drive
these things in real conditions? I know we're all rustic anorak bearing
types, but when you pay a small fortune for not so few hundredweight of
british heritage, you expect the heater to work. Maybe the powers that
be at Ford will cotton on to that??? After all, they solved that with
the Cortina when it still had ban the bomb rear lights.

Maybe the superheated series III was not such a bad idea after all....

:-)

Adrian Redmond

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:14:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?= <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] I'm back and I'm sorry...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Just got back from a short notice two week trip to Germany and
then a week recovering from strep throat.  Forgot to
un-sub-scribe befor I left and got cut off when my yahoo mail
box overflowed.  Mea maxima culpa, many sorrows.  Hope no-one
got too annoyed, next round at the bar is on me.  Opon my return
to semi-health, was informed by current landlords that they want
their house back and now I have to move, buy furniture, etc in
the middle of the winter.  All that money was going to buy B.D.
a new frame, and overhauled engine from ACR.  And a winch.  etc,
etc.  Aww, s***!  And the Volvo needs brakes and springs and
shocks.  At least I get to find a bigger house, hopefully with a
garage.  Anyone know anything available in the Burwell, Cambs.
U.K. area?  Help!!  

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Burwell, England
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:23:30 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Four WD/Two WD Knob problems
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It means that:

a) the knob is too far down and binding on the spring
before it can engage 4WD
b) The shift shafts are stuck/hung up/not actuating
properly
c) the pivot the 4WD knob is on is broken and the
whole thing is flapping instead of pivoting.

          ajr

--- Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> What does it mean when the yellow 4WD/2WD knob will
> not stay down at all in any
> circumstance?
> Thanks
> Mark Pilkington
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Message: 4
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:27:28 -0800
Subject: [lro] Re: Overdrive
Reply-To: [email-masked]

From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: Overdrive
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> I don't see how in the Sam Hill this could damage a 
syncro unit but hey--that's just my opinion.  My personal 
experience has been that it decreases the noise in the OD.

Damage is probably the wrong word.  The problems I've 
heard associated with lube oil additives (some of them, 
and it obviously depends on what the additive does), 
is that they can make it easier for synchro rings to "jump" 
out of engagement.  Whether Hi-Tach is something 
that could cause this, I don't know.  I know STP had 
quite a reputation for this if used in synchromesh 
gearboxes.  So it isn't that these additives will 
damage something, but they may cause a transmission 
to pop out of gear under some circumstances.

_________________________________________
C. Marin Faure
(original owner)
1973 Land Rover Series III-88
1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
Seattle

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:36:13 +0000
To: [email-masked]
From: Elwyn FS <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] are heater ducts made of PVC pipe safe?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>TO me this smells like a solution to my heating duct
>problems in the Series II...I need to find SOME way to
>get heat to my feet in that RHD beast.
>
>            ajr

Have you blocked off that gap beneath the drivers side door? I used to find 
all my heat went out there. I still have a gap, but not as big.

Elwyn York   ICQ: 17087824
S3 Lightweight. West Midlands
http://ltwt.gq.nu/

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:47:50 +0000
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
From: Elwyn FS <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Ignition System - the key v the button
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hiya

How easy is it to change the starter bit of the ignition to a push button.

A friend of mine at work has a S3 but the key and barrel are badly worn. He 
has hit upon the idea of replacing the part of the ignition barrel which 
starts it with a push button, somewhere on his dash - he has enough holes 
for it!

That way, he can turn the ignition on, and then press the button to start.

So, Some people will argue that this is going backwards with evolution and 
stuff, but on the other point, he has hit on the idea that he wants, so I 
would like some advice from you chaps?

Alas I won't see him tomorrow, but he is back at the depot on Thursday, so 
if people could slip in their bits?

Cheers

Elwyn York   ICQ: 17087824
S3 Lightweight. West Midlands
http://ltwt.gq.nu/

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:13:26 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: "James G.Wolf" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Matt's  photos
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>I had a hard drive failure a few months backand lost a few photographs of the
>restoration. A data recovery company offered to recover "most" of the data on
>the damaged drive for $5,000. As you can imagine I immediately said yes and
>shipped it off to them. NOT!!!  I actually told them that they were
robbers and
>I was thinking more like $100 (Hundred) as a max amount and that they should
>stick it up their intake manifold.  As a result I have no pictures of the
engine
>swap and the gory bits of the restoration. I will put a few on the new Yahoo
>site in a few days if anyone is interested, but they will have to be
simply from
>under the open hood and up underneath because I have had enough of
removing and
>refitting wings/ fenders etc

this is one of my reasons for talking my daughters OUT of getting me a
Digital camera
for Christmas the last three years. I shoot on FILM and scan the ones I
want to digitise.
That way I always have the negatives to scan again.
Sorry about your photos Matt.
Jim Wolf
Jim & Jeanne Wolf
Elvenwood Kennel
  at Tighe na Ulbhaidh
450 Mount Vernon Ave
Portsmouth, VA, 23707 USA
757-397-2428
[email-masked]
http://www.elvenwood.com

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:13:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Rover Pictures
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
CC: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Nope, your not dim at all - I am.  I messed up on my installation and I
apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused.  You have two options as
of right now.

1.  Email me your RoverMe User Name and what you want your album to be
called (Your name or whatever) and I will set it up immediately for you

2.  Post your pictures in the new LRO / Mendo folder I just created.  Click
the picture and then select Add Pictures!

I am working fast to fix this so you can "Just do it" in the future and not
have to email me to set it up.

Thanks for your patience.  I will alert users when the Gallery is working
properly.

Ciao!

Brian

On 12/11/01 3:13 PM, "Mark Pilkington" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> 
> Brian,
>   Am I being a bit dim? I went to the site and saw your Discovery, but was not
> able to see how to add a photo of mine.
> Sorry. html to me is;  Hard To Make Learn.
> Kind regards,
> Mark
> 
> Brian Horner wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I just added a photo server on RoverMe.Org and it is working great.  I
>> encourage all of you to go look and create your own photo albums so we can
>> check our your rover too.  I hope you enjoy and use it lots!  Now if I could
>> just convince TeriAnn to help me decorate the site.  ;o)
>> 
>> Have fun everyone!
>> 
>> Brian
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Message: 9
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Ignition System - the key v the button
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:24:57 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Did this to my '66 109 when the 2nd floor push button died in a span of two 
weeks.  Has worked fine since installed last millenium.  Think I just bought 
a high capacity button at NAPA, drilled a hole in the panel above the oil 
gauge and swapped the wires over from the floor switch.  A whole lot handier 
than the fire wall switch.  Think I might camouflage it for security 
purposes if I was to do it again.

Aloha
Peter O.

>From: Elwyn FS <[email-masked]>
>How easy is it to change the starter bit of the ignition to a push button.
>Elwyn York   ICQ: 17087824

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:46:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] are heater ducts made of PVC pipe safe?
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Elwyn FS <[email-masked]> wrote:
> gap beneath the drivers
> side door? I used to find 
> all my heat went out there. I still have a gap, but
> not as big.

Yup - believe it or not a piece of door gasket from a
Hyundai Excel fits over that lip and seals beautifully
to the bottom of the door....this way you don't need
to bugger around trying to get the damned glue-on or
rivet-on gaskets to stay on the sodding
galvanising....

         ajr

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Message: 11
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Matt's  photos
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:30:10 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> this is one of my reasons for talking my daughters OUT of getting me a
> Digital camera
> for Christmas the last three years. I shoot on FILM

CD burners are so cheep though.
I shot film for about 20 years, went digital last year and will never go
back.
I like knowing right away how the shot came out.  I actually find myself
doing more artsy shots now.
When I get home I make a proof sheet of all the photos on the memory card.
Print it out, then burn the card to CD.  I am anal so I do make 2 copies.
One goes in the fire safe.  The other goes into a three ring binder with the
proof sheet.
Just another opinion :-)
Pete

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Message: 12
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:36:37 -0500
Subject: [lro] Series spring over.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I apologise in advance as I know this might ruffle some feathers...

So, I'm again at the design stage... It's good to be back. I have a set of
coiler axles off of a 1990 RR completely dissassembled in the garage, and a
monstrously large set of new tires mounted on some rims. What do I do with
all this...

The plan has been for some time to convert Valdez, my 109 3 door, already a
rolling prototype for a variety of weirdness, to leaf sprung coiler axles. I
have finally got all the bits and pieces I need to proceed.

There are a few problems. Firstly, the track of the vehicle increases
dramatically with these axles - with the 35" tires mounted on stock 88"
wheels, the overall width becomes 70", almost 10" wider than the standard
width from outer edge to outer edge of the tires. This means when things
start to flex tires will start to rub and I'd like to keep the fender
trimming to a tolerable level.

Also, I've had problems with the axle tube hitting the chassis under full
articulation at the front, and on rough roads. I attribute this to a heavy
motor, winch and bumper, but this is annoying to say the least. Bone jarring
thumping is not a good thing.

So, in order to gain some fender clearance, and raise the chassis so it
doesn't rub in th middle (109's are a tad long for heavy off-road) I'd come
up with the idea of a spring over lift. This would be ideal, as it would
give me a lot of fender clearance, and make the front thumping a thing of
the past, without having to go to heavier springs and losing my decent front
axle articulation.

I measured it up tonight and a spring over in stock form is not going to
work at ALL. The dead raise with the new larger tires would be at least 10",
which means the CG is much too high for anything remotely related to
off-roading.

So, I've got two options here. Either I cut the fenders out and run the
axles in normal form, making the vehicle somewhat lower than I would like it
for frame to suspension clearance, or I can "spring over", but de-arch the
springs to make them nearly flat, in order to try and lower the CG.

The flat spring idea is interesting, and I think it might work decently
well. I'd simply use the stock 88" leaf springs I have on the beast right
now, and remove some short leaves below the spring, and set it above the
axletube. Under compression, the spring would bend into a negative arch, and
when unloaded, it would droop.

My main concern is how the stock springs will hold up to this type of
treatment. I figure with 5-6 leaves in the front and maybe a bit more in the
rear, the springs will be severely taxed, but I think they could still live
a decently long life...

Any opinions or insights before I tear my rover apart again?

J-L

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Message: 13
From: "Rob Craig" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:09:28 +0000
Subject: [lro] Ottawa Valley Land Rovers are alive
Reply-To: [email-masked]

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Message: 14
From: "Rob Craig" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:11:10 +0000
Subject: [lro] NAS spec D90 makers plate for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have avirgin unstamped NAS spec D90 rear body cast makers plate that
has never been stamped for sale, offers?

Rgds

Robin Craig

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Message: 15
From: "Rob Craig" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:14:11 +0000
Subject: [lro] Container space available from uk 2002
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I am bringing back another vehicle from the UK after Xmas at the end of
January, another 110, a station wagon this time. In doing so I am very
likely to get a 20 or 40 ft ISO container. is there anyone out there who
is looking for space for stuff? If so email me directly and we can chat. 

Robin Craig 

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Message: 16
From: "Rob Craig" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:19:59 +0000
Subject: [lro] series one saved
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Last night, at 10 pm in the dark I bought a 1955 series one hard top pick
up. It does run but needs quite a bit of tlc, it is my aim to get it
roadworthy by the spring. I am going to attempt to pull the body off over
the Xmas hols and sort out the frame at work. I will then start at the
body panels as there are some tears and holes. The intention is have a 3
season run  about  that my daughter can learn to drive on, as it is
unlikely that i will have a 110 or 90 on the raod next summer. The Ferret
has been sold so you wont be seeing that at the birthday party but I am
looking at some other devilish pieces of equipment as we speak...... a
track laying machine is one of them..... Oh you know me... it will be
different!!

Rgds

Robin Craig

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:01:44 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Series spring over.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Do you need those old rear springs of mine to play with?

Keith
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:15:53 -0800
From: Paul Quin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Tempertaures
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Our Kodiak heaters here in the left hemisphere work quite well, thank you.
But then, I've heard that they were designed in Winnipeg, weren't they?  Say
no more...

Were Kodiaks never offered in Europe?

Paul in Victoria.

Adrian Writes:

I have often wondered whether anyone at solihull has ever remarked on
how it can be possible to freeze your tows, bum and back, at the same
time as burning your fingers looking for your cigarette lighter amongst
the melted mars bars in the instrument tray. Do they ever test drive
these things in real conditions? I know we're all rustic anorak bearing
types, but when you pay a small fortune for not so few hundredweight of
british heritage, you expect the heater to work. Maybe the powers that
be at Ford will cotton on to that??? After all, they solved that with
the Cortina when it still had ban the bomb rear lights.

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