Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #176 - 41 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Clutch Hydraulics (Alan J. Richer)
   2. Re: Clutch Hydraulics (Paul Oxley)
   3. Re: Clutch Hydraulics (Alan J. Richer)
   4. Re: Alternator plan (Jim Hall)
   5. Pink Panther (Bill Adams)
   6. Re: Importing to Canada (Michael Hatton)
   7. Re: Pink Panther (Lori Sickley)
   8. Re: Pink Panther (Rob MacCormick)
   9. Insulation (Rob MacCormick)
  10. RE: Insulation (Easton Trevor A)
  11. Re: Insulation (Kirk Hillman)
  12. Re: Insulation (Rob MacCormick)
  13. Re: Insulation (Kirk Hillman)
  14. Re: Importing to Canada (Paul Quin)
  15. Re: Insulation (Alan J. Richer)
  16. Re: Southdown snorkle (Lonn & Rhonda)
  17. Re: Insulation (Rob MacCormick)
  18. Re: Alternator plan (Keith Tanner)
  19. Re: BUYING A SERIES (Keith Tanner)
  20. Re: Southdown snorkle (Hope Peter)
  21. Re: Pink Panther (Hope Peter)
  22. Re: Fluids! ;o) (Mark Pilkington)
  23. Re: Pink Panther (Rich & Lori Williams)
  24. Re: Pink Panther (Hope Peter)
  25. Re: Pink Panther (Rich & Lori Williams)
  26. RE: Insulation (Alan J. Richer)
  27. Re: Insulation (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  28. Oil Pressure Gauge Wiring (Michael Hatton)
  29. Re: Importing to Canada (Faure, Marin)
  30. RE: Southdown snorkle (Easton Trevor A)
  31. RE: Re: Importing to Canada (Easton Trevor A)
  32. RE: Re: Importing to Canada (Keith Tanner)
  33. Re: BUYING A SERIES (Phil Norris)
  34. Ebay oddity (Mark Pilkington)
  35. Re: Ebay oddity (John Cranfield)
  36. Clutch woes (A. P. (Sandy) Grice)
  37. Re: Ebay oddity (Jim Hall)
  38. charging and idle speeds (Stude, Herman)
  39. another round of computer woes (Hope Peter)
  40. Re: Importing to Canada (N Forbes)
  41. Re: Alternator plan (Winn Bearden)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 03:34:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Clutch Hydraulics
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

If your foot's wet, it's the master.

If the ground underneath is wet it's the slave...

8*)

Seriously, check for leakage past the seals in the
master's bore. I'll lay odds you'll find it in the
master.

         ajr

--- Paul Quin <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I seem to be loosing pressure in my clutch
> hydraulics.  The recent cold snap
> seems to have agravated the problem.
> 
> Pushing the pedal to the floor no longer disengages
> the clutch.
> 
> I guess it's either the master or slave cylinder, or
> the flex hose.  Is
> there a sure-fire method of determining which
> cylinder (master or slave) is
> the problem?
> 
> I'd rather not have to order both a new master and
> slave.   I might try and
> get away with just the overhaul kits.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Paul Quin
> 1961 SII 88
> Victoria, BC
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 13:51:51 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin.com
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Clutch Hydraulics
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Alan J. Richer" wrote:
 
> If your foot's wet, it's the master.

Or you have to convince the dog to stop dating your leg.

;-{>}
 
Regards

Paul (Sorry, couldn't resist) Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 05:08:30 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Clutch Hydraulics
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Paul Oxley <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> "Alan J. Richer" wrote:
>  
> > If your foot's wet, it's the master.
> 
> Or you have to convince the dog to stop dating your
> leg.

ROFL! Pass the paper towels - coffee on the monitor
again.......

            ajr

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 06:20:25 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Alternator plan
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I did it by spacing the generator bracket away from the block using 
washers, and using a piece of pipe, 1'4" I think, as a bushing for the
alternator to adapt it to the long bolt. I may have had to drill the
hole a tiny bit to fit the bolt I think. I may have also had to move the
upper bracket to another bolt and/or space it out a bit. I don't 
remember. 

Brendan Evans wrote:
> 
> So what is the best deal out there for someone who has neither the
> knowledge nor facilities to fabricate the necessary brackets to
> convert to an alternator.  Right now I am done with the mucking about
> and just want an answer that is straight forward.  I have been
> dorking around with the delicate Lucas electrics all freaking summer
> and I am not about to continue that line of insanity.

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:45:41 -0500
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Pink Panther
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Could someone please jolt my feeble memory as to who and where the Pink
Panther is? I Thought it was in Connecticut, but what do I know? Is that
the only one in the States?
-- 
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:49:24 -0500
From: Michael Hatton <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Yeah, but do you know how much you could sell a 7 year old 110 in Canada
for? :)
I bet there woudl be a few on this list who might....

Michael

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Paul Nash wrote:

>
> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> Bottom line is that it looks like it *is* possible to bring in a
> 7-year-old 110 as a migrant entering for the first time, but there
> are a couple of issues:
>
> 1)  It'll probably involves lots and lots of non-routine paperwork
> 2)  if anything goes wrong, the vehicle willl be stuck at Canadian
> customs & have to be destroyed or re-exported
> 3)  it'll have to be converted to LHD, and no doubt meet all sorts of
> other requirements
> 3)  do I *really* want a 110 (lousy heater, leaks, wind blows
> through) for a daily drive in the Canadian winter?
> 4)  I'll probably have enough other hassles without adding the extra
> paperwork and expense
>
> Again, thanks for the info.
> --
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:01:55 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Paul Miller Land Rover in Parsippany, NJ http://www.paulmiller4x4.com/ has 
one in their showroom.

At least they did last time I was there : )

Lori

At 08:45 AM 12/4/01, you wrote:

>Could someone please jolt my feeble memory as to who and where the Pink
>Panther is? I Thought it was in Connecticut, but what do I know? Is that
>the only one in the States?
>--
>Bill Adams
>3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
>International Broadcasting Bureau
>Washington, D.C.
>202-205-9638
>[email-masked]

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:03:11 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Last time (2 years ago?) I saw a pink panther it was in Natick,
Massachusetts at a land rover dealer...Maybe owned by J. Pappas? I knew then
less than I know now (which is still veryt slightly more tha nothing) I
asked in a serious fashion if they would take me for a ride in it to see
what their reaction was. They were stunned....I didn't get a ride, actually
I thibk they thought I was insane. Perceptive bunch those guys...Rob M

Bill Adams wrote:

> Could someone please jolt my feeble memory as to who and where the Pink
> Panther is? I Thought it was in Connecticut, but what do I know? Is that
> the only one in the States?
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:18:16 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Insulation
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Greetings!

I'm in the planning stages of an effort to replace the wiring in my '68
dormobile....As I remove some of the interior trim I've come across a few
voids that I thought I might as well fill for sound and temp. transfer
reduction. Anyone have any recommendations? Looking for something easily
trimmed and removable (ie not the sticky stuff in a can)
Rob "can you say ship fitters disease?" M
Concord, MA

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Message: 10
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Insulation
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:24:32 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Closed cell foam, readily available as camping mattress.

 Anyone have any recommendations? Looking for something easily
trimmed and removable (ie not the sticky stuff in a can)
Rob "can you say ship fitters disease?" M
Concord, MA
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Message: 11
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:36:05 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Closed cell foam, readily available as camping mattress.
> 
...obviously the non-inflating sort.  :-)

Kirk

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 09:40:00 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You stay away from my thermarest (inflatable foam type mattress) with
those scissors you!

Kirk Hillman wrote:

> > Closed cell foam, readily available as camping mattress.
> >
> ...obviously the non-inflating sort.  :-)
>
> Kirk
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Message: 13
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:48:40 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

... sly smile showing through his attempts to hide it.  ;-)

Rob wrote:
> 
> You stay away from my thermarest (inflatable foam type mattress) with
> those scissors you!

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 06:48:36 -0800
From: Paul Quin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

No. 3 is definitely false.  There are no rules about switching over to LHD.
I asked about this question specifically a few years ago when I was looking
into importing one from Scotland.

There are quite a few RHD British cars here in Victoria.

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Hatton" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada

>
> Yeah, but do you know how much you could sell a 7 year old 110 in Canada
> for? :)
> I bet there woudl be a few on this list who might....
>
> Michael
>
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Paul Nash wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks for all the replies.
> >
> > Bottom line is that it looks like it *is* possible to bring in a
> > 7-year-old 110 as a migrant entering for the first time, but there
> > are a couple of issues:
> >
> > 1)  It'll probably involves lots and lots of non-routine paperwork
> > 2)  if anything goes wrong, the vehicle willl be stuck at Canadian
> > customs & have to be destroyed or re-exported
> > 3)  it'll have to be converted to LHD, and no doubt meet all sorts of
> > other requirements
> > 3)  do I *really* want a 110 (lousy heater, leaks, wind blows
> > through) for a daily drive in the Canadian winter?
> > 4)  I'll probably have enough other hassles without adding the extra
> > paperwork and expense
> >
> > Again, thanks for the info.

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 06:49:42 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Rob "can you say ship fitters disease?" M
> Concord, MA

Rob, on Mr. C's next iteration I'm going to be using
thermal insulation on the underside of the bonnet and
in another few spots. it's essentially tough Mylar
bubble wrap, silvered and covered with mylar both
sides to be flat and manageable.

It's supposedly heat-reflective and is definitely
waterproof in and of itself - though I'd be sure to
allow for condensation drainage or periodic removal on
horizontal surfaces.

Another thing Mr. C is going to get is a set of rubber
link mats like Miss J. has from original. Likely
knowing me, I'll buy a bunch of cheap link mats and
knit myself a set....using aluminum or stainless wire
so that they don't rust away.

                       ajr

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Message: 16
From: "Lonn & Rhonda" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Southdown snorkle
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 06:58:59 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thank you oh wise ones!

Don't know why my search engines couldn't find it...

Lonn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Southdown snorkle

> 
> http://www.southdownusa.com/
> Is this what you seek Lonn?
> Pete

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 10:39:52 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Sounds like some space age stuff and prolly not so tasty to a
mouse.....As I dig into the dorkmobile I've discoverd bits of wood and
also some aluminum faced cotton stuff. The mice really liked the cotton
stuff.......When I first bought the rig I found about a cubic foot of
materials nestled in around the brake booster contraption....Don't tell
my wife, but that cat did actually have some merit.....

"Alan J. Richer" wrote:

> --- Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > Rob "can you say ship fitters disease?" M
> > Concord, MA
>
> Rob, on Mr. C's next iteration I'm going to be using
> thermal insulation on the underside of the bonnet and
> in another few spots. it's essentially tough Mylar
> bubble wrap, silvered and covered with mylar both
> sides to be flat and manageable.
>
> It's supposedly heat-reflective and is definitely
> waterproof in and of itself - though I'd be sure to
> allow for condensation drainage or periodic removal on
> horizontal surfaces.
>
> Another thing Mr. C is going to get is a set of rubber
> link mats like Miss J. has from original. Likely
> knowing me, I'll buy a bunch of cheap link mats and
> knit myself a set....using aluminum or stainless wire
> so that they don't rust away.
>
>                        ajr
>
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:44:01 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Alternator plan
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You don't need any special brackets. I reused the generator bracket on my 1967.

Keith

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:52:18 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] BUYING A SERIES
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>It will give you a fairly decent idea as to what is out there and where the
>market is at dollar wise.

I've found that LRX gives an idea of what some people think the top of the 
market is, but the majority of the prices are unrealistic. Ontario and BC 
have a higher percentage of Rovers, but you won't see any Ontario trucks on 
LRX.

Do some reading on the OVLR website (http://www.ovlr.org). There's been a 
lot of writing on this subject. Basically, the frame is the weakest point 
due to rust. By having the option of a 1987 or older UK truck, you've got 
all sorts of possibilities for engines.

Keith

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Message: 20
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Southdown snorkle
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:17:04 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have made the switch to google.com
Seems to find most things more accurately.  The only exception is comples
boolean searches, I still think altavista does a better job with those.
YRMV
Pete
> Thank you oh wise ones!
>
> Don't know why my search engines couldn't find it...
>
> Lonn

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Message: 21
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:18:15 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have been told, but not seen for myself that Charles Kellog in Portland OR
has one in his shop.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:45
Subject: [lro] Pink Panther

>
> Could someone please jolt my feeble memory as to who and where the Pink
> Panther is? I Thought it was in Connecticut, but what do I know? Is that
> the only one in the States?
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 08:59:36 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Fluids! ;o)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Brain,
    What part of Northern California are you in.  I am in Cameron Park East of
Sac.
Mark Pilkingtion

Dick Joltes wrote:

> Brian Horner wrote:
>
> > As I stated once before - my Series III is my first old Rover.  I am about
> > to get set on my first big fluid check/top & change and was wondering if
> > anyone has any information or suggestions that may differ from what is
> > recommended in the original owners manual or the big green Series III Repair
> > Operation Manual?  I am about to dump Pennzoil 10w40 into my engine, for
> > example, is that what everyone else sees as a proper choice for Northern-Cal
> > climate.
>
> Don't know about that particular weight for your climate, but I would
> not dump Pennzoil into a particularly hated lawnmower, not to mention
> my Rover!  I had numerous problems with Pennzoil foaming in the past
> and simply stopped using it; maybe it's improved lately.
>
> Valvoline, Wolfs Head, Kendall are my choices, but YMMV.
>
> dj
> 1974 SIII Airportable, "Smudger"
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Message: 23
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:10:44 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

About a year ago I saw the Pink Panther Charles Kellog has.  It was/is in
his shop, completely original and complete with all accoutrements save for
the guns.  His shop is in Olympia, Washington.

Pete - since you're out on the Olympic Peninsula, I would guess you are not
more than a hour + from British NW Land Rover.  But be warned, Charles do
not have the best reputation.  There are a number of Roverphiles here in the
Northwestern US and 99% buy from RN and BP (generally speaking) even though
Charles has just about everything a Series owner could want - and more - but
there are reasons we take our money elsewhere.

Rich

----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Peter <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther

>
> I have been told, but not seen for myself that Charles Kellog in Portland
OR
> has one in his shop.
> Pete
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:45
> Subject: [lro] Pink Panther
>
>
> >
> > Could someone please jolt my feeble memory as to who and where the Pink
> > Panther is? I Thought it was in Connecticut, but what do I know? Is that
> > the only one in the States?
> > --
> > Bill Adams
> > 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> > International Broadcasting Bureau
> > Washington, D.C.
> > 202-205-9638
> > [email-masked]
> >
> >
> > '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> > '81 GoldWing
> > '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> > '63 Pearson Vanguard
> > "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> > _______________________________________________
> > LRO mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
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Message: 24
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:14:11 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Pete - since you're out on the Olympic Peninsula, I would guess you are
not
> more than a hour + from British NW Land Rover.  But be warned, Charles do
> not have the best reputation.  There are a number of Roverphiles here in
the
> Northwestern US and 99% buy from RN and BP (generally speaking) even
though
> Charles has just about everything a Series owner could want - and more -
but
> there are reasons we take our money elsewhere.
>
> Rich

I have had dealings with 'the cornflake' in the past.  Basically my
experiance is that even though I would mortgage my left nut to own a pink
panther I wont even take the time to go look at the one in his shop.  And I
will be in the area this weekend, so it's not like it's out of the way.
Pete

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Message: 25
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:32:30 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Good - so you already know then.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Peter <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] Pink Panther

>
> > Pete - since you're out on the Olympic Peninsula, I would guess you are
> not
> > more than a hour + from British NW Land Rover.  But be warned, Charles
do
> > not have the best reputation.  There are a number of Roverphiles here in
> the
> > Northwestern US and 99% buy from RN and BP (generally speaking) even
> though
> > Charles has just about everything a Series owner could want - and more -
> but
> > there are reasons we take our money elsewhere.
> >
> > Rich
>
> I have had dealings with 'the cornflake' in the past.  Basically my
> experiance is that even though I would mortgage my left nut to own a pink
> panther I wont even take the time to go look at the one in his shop.  And
I
> will be in the area this weekend, so it's not like it's out of the way.
> Pete
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:58:06 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Insulation
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Closed cell foam, readily available as camping
> mattress.
> 

MOUSE PADS!

OK, Rob - you work at a university. Go to all the
computer labs and scarf all the mouse pads - that
should be enough foam to cover the whole damn
Dormobile.....8*)

  aj"JUST KIDDING - if you get caught don't blame me"r

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Message: 27
Subject: Re: [lro] Insulation
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 01 09:15:17 -0800
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO list" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>I'm in the planning stages of an effort to replace the wiring in my '68
>dormobile....As I remove some of the interior trim I've come across a few
>voids that I thought I might as well fill for sound and temp. transfer
>reduction. Anyone have any recommendations? Looking for something easily
>trimmed and removable (ie not the sticky stuff in a can)

Hi Rob.

I ended up using the cheapo bubble wrap insulation (small bubble wrap 
with aluminum foil on each side).  It was cheap, easy to work with, 
leaves no fibres to breath in over time and actually works as an 
insulation.

I had a partially done roof over the driver's seat for a week or so in 
cool weather and delighted in putting a hand up on the ceiling with 
insulation and moving it to the place without while driving.  The 
insulated area was basically at interior air temperature and the space 
with bare aluminum was outside ambient or colder.  I was surprised the 
stuff really worked that well.

On the other hand you are stuck with that wide expanse fibre glass roof 
all the time and that thin plastic material when camping and the top is 
popped.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
[email-masked]           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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Message: 28
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:22:27 -0500
From: Michael Hatton <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Oil Pressure Gauge Wiring
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In the process of doing my frameover I have "lost" the wiring for the Oil
gauge in the centre dash. I can't find a wiring diagram for it.
Anyone know how it is meant to be wired in?

Michael Hatton

1972 "hand-painted" SIII 88"

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Message: 29
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:23:05 -0800 
Subject: [lro] Re: Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

To: [email-masked]
From: Paul Nash <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>3)  it'll have to be converted to LHD....

I can understand all the paperwork and whatnot, but 
why the requirement to switch from RHD to LHD?  
A lot of people in the UK regularly take their RHD 
vehicles to the continent, where all the roads are 
LHD, and have no problems.  Also, you see 
a lot of LHD cars on UK roads, including a lot 
of huge semis that come across the Channel.  The 
only requirement I can detect is that most of the 
LHD trucks have a sticker or sign on them somewhere 
that says "LHD."  I don't know if this is a safety 
requirement to let people know the driver is on 
the other side of the cab and may not have the 
same degree of mirror visibility as a RHD truck.  
I've driven RHD vehicles in the US, and it's no 
big deal.

_________________________________________
C. Marin Faure
(original owner)
1973 Land Rover Series III-88
1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
Seattle

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Message: 30
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Southdown snorkle
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:31:55 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

gogle.com also searches for non html documents, e.g. xls,pdf,doc etc and can
find some quite useful (?) information that wasn't readily accessible
before.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Hope Peter [SMTP:[email-masked]]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:17 AM
> To:	[email-masked]
> Subject:	Re: [lro] Southdown snorkle
> 
> 
> I have made the switch to google.com
> Seems to find most things more accurately.  The only exception is comples
> boolean searches, I still think altavista does a better job with those.
> YRMV
> Pete
> > Thank you oh wise ones!
> >
> > Don't know why my search engines couldn't find it...
> >
> > Lonn
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Message: 31
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Re: Importing to Canada
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:42:16 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Don't know about the other provinces, but in Ontario a Right Hand Drive sign
is supposed to be displayed.

I can understand all the paperwork and whatnot, but 
why the requirement to switch from RHD to LHD?  
 The 
only requirement I can detect is that most of the 
LHD trucks have a sticker or sign on them somewhere 
that says "LHD."  I don't know if this is a safety 
requirement to let people know the driver is on 
the other side of the cab and may not have the 
same degree of mirror visibility as a RHD truck.  
I've driven RHD vehicles in the US, and it's no 
big deal.

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Message: 32
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 12:52:35 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Re: Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Don't know about the other provinces, but in Ontario a Right Hand Drive sign
>is supposed to be displayed.

Maybe, but I have yet to see a vehicle with that sign :)

The first Lotus Seven I drove was a RHD in Canada. I learned how to drive 
stick in Australia, and hadn't even noticed that the car was RHD until I 
got out at the end!

Keith

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Message: 33
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] BUYING A SERIES
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:14:12 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Or even an early 90/110??
like mine...;~))
PhilN
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Date: 04 December 2001 16:11
Subject: Re: [lro] BUYING A SERIES

>
>>It will give you a fairly decent idea as to what is out there and where
the
>>market is at dollar wise.
>
>I've found that LRX gives an idea of what some people think the top of the
>market is, but the majority of the prices are unrealistic. Ontario and BC
>have a higher percentage of Rovers, but you won't see any Ontario trucks on
>LRX.
>
>Do some reading on the OVLR website (http://www.ovlr.org). There's been a
>lot of writing on this subject. Basically, the frame is the weakest point
>due to rust. By having the option of a 1987 or older UK truck, you've got
>all sorts of possibilities for engines.
>
>Keith
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Message: 34
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 13:12:23 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Ebay oddity
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Anyone ever seen anything like this Series IIa?  It is a van conversion it
has no bids at $3000 and was originally built for the RAF.  Interesting.
Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=598799571&r=0&t=0

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Message: 35
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 18:10:29 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Ebay oddity
Reply-To: [email-masked]

That certainly is a rare one.
Carmicheal built a handfull of forward control versions of LandRovers in
the very early 60s. One of them was made into a motorhome and used by
the then Minister of Transport.
If I had a spare 3000+ bucks I'd be bidding.
John and Muddy

Mark Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Anyone ever seen anything like this Series IIa?  It is a van conversion it
> has no bids at $3000 and was originally built for the RAF.  Interesting.
> Kind regards,
> Mark Pilkington
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=598799571&r=0&t=0
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Message: 36
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 17:18:05 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Clutch woes
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Paul Quin <[email-masked]> wrote:

>I seem to be loosing pressure in my clutch hydraulics.  The recent cold snap
>seems to have agravated the problem.

Of course...it *always* happens that way.  Rovers are impecable for their
sense of timing.... ;-)

>Pushing the pedal to the floor no longer disengages the clutch.

>I guess it's either the master or slave cylinder, or the flex hose.  Is
>there a sure-fire method of determining which cylinder (master or slave) is
>the problem?

Rebuild both.  It has been my experience that if you only rebuild one, the
other will fail in short order.

>I'd rather not have to order both a new master and slave.   I might try and
>get away with just the overhaul kits.

With judicious honing, you can usually get 3 or 4 'rebuilds' out of a slave
or master.

	*-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----*
	|                 A. P. "Sandy" Grice                  |
	|    The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd    |
	|     1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
	*------------------------------------------------------*

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Message: 37
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:25:00 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Ebay oddity
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It may be the one that a guy in Colo had and sold. Although come to 
think of it, the one I'm thinking of had a door and windows in the back.

Mark Pilkington wrote:
> 
> Anyone ever seen anything like this Series IIa?  It is a van conversion it
> has no bids at $3000 and was originally built for the RAF.  Interesting.
> Kind regards,
> Mark Pilkington
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=598799571&r=0&t=0
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-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 38
From: "Stude, Herman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:13:10 -0600
Subject: [lro] charging and idle speeds
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Greetings All:

On my stock 1973 SIII 88 petrol I have two issues that have recently come
up.  First, the charge light came on today for about a mile of city driving
then went out.  It usually stays on when I start the motor for a few moments
then shuts off when I give the motor a little gas.  Should I worry?  Should
I have the alt tested at a Pep Boys or something?

Second, when I'm at a stand still idling and I step on the brake the engine
idle goes up 200 r.p.m or so.  There is also an intermittent clicking sound
at the brake booster (I guess the valve is going/went bad).  What should I
do?

Thanks,

Herman Stude
1973 SIII 88
With a newly rebuild rear axle!

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Message: 39
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: "lr LRO" <[email-masked]>, "LroMajordomo"
  <[email-masked]>, "lr PCRC" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:14:59 -0800
Subject: [lro] another round of computer woes
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Aloha all.
Just got another update, badtrans has just morphed into goner.
Time to update those virus defs again
Pete

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Message: 40
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 01:52:54 +0000
Subject: [lro] Re: Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I would be very surprised if you were required to convert to LHD. You 
certainly don't when importing a vehicle older than 15 years.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
--author unknown

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Message: 41
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 21:10:46 -0500
From: Winn Bearden <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Alternator plan
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Steve Johnson makes a bracket that  mounts a Delco alt. on the top left of the
engine.  Gets it out of the water. They look good and are even powdercoated.

Keith Tanner wrote:

> You don't need any special brackets. I reused the generator bracket on my 1967.
>
> Keith
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--
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P.O. Box 464          2- 1967 NADA 109" SW (both in pieces)
Americus, GA 31709    1998 Disco LE7
                      1990 110 Tdi SW

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