Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #174 - 32 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Leafblower Turbo (Its a slow day) (Harald Hansen)
   2. RE: Leafblower Turbo (Its a slow day) (Easton Trevor A)
   3. Questions - newbie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Hedstr=F6m?=)
   4. Info for the Winter Romp ([email-masked])
   5. RE: Another safety tip (Easton Trevor A)
   6. Re: 4wd Newsgroup (was: air cleaners) ([email-masked])
   7. Re: Questions - newbie (Alan J. Richer)
   8. Re: Info for the Winter Romp (John Cranfield)
   9. Re: Questions - newbie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Hedstr=F6m?=)
  10. Re: Questions - newbie (John Cranfield)
  11. (no subject) (C. Marin Faure)
  12. Re: Questions - newbie (Alan J. Richer)
  13. Re: Anyone on this list named Andy Pease? (Jean-Leon Morin)
  14. Re: Leafblower Turbo ([email-masked])
  15. Re: Leafblower Turbo (Alan J. Richer)
  16. Importing to Canada (Paul Nash)
  17. Re: Importing to Canada (Robert S. Cascaddan)
  18. Re: Anyone on this list named Andy Pease? (Andy Pease)
  19. Re: Importing to Canada (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  20. Re: Importing to Canada (John Cranfield)
  21. Re: Importing to Canada (long sob story) (G. Mugele)
  22. Reconditioned (William L Leacock)
  23. wheel fasteners (William L Leacock)
  24. Re: Importing to Canada (long sob story) (John Cranfield)
  25. Re: Importing to Canada (long sob story) (Jean-Leon Morin)
  26. Re: Importing to Canada (long sob story) (Paul Quin)
  27. Fluids! ;o) (Brian Horner)
  28. Re: Heat treating steel ([email-masked])
  29. Re: Fluids! ;o) (Keith Tanner)
  30. Re: Importing to Canada (long sob story) (Keith Tanner)
  31. Re: Fluids! ;o) (Jeff Bieler)
  32. Re: Fluids! ;o) (Dick Joltes)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 12:20:37 +0100
To: [email-masked]
From: Harald Hansen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Leafblower Turbo (Its a slow day)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 11:54 01.12.01 -0500, you wrote:

>What's to stop someone from modifying their carburetor for the occasional use 
>of a leafblower as a turbo charger?

Not a leafblower, but here's some people who made a study of electrically
assisted turbochargers:

http://www.osti.gov/hvt/deer2000/baileypa.pdf

Regards,
Harald

-- 
Harald Hansen                           #========#       1975 and 1976
SW engineer, strategy gamer, LR owner   |___|__|__\___     Land Rover
E-mail: harald74@online[DOT]no          |  _|  |   |_ |} Series III 109" 
        harald.hansen@kongsberg[DOT]com ""(_)""""""(_)"   Station Wagons

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Message: 2
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked] '" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked] '"
  <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Leafblower Turbo (Its a slow day)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:02:03 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

 I once saw an article in Yachting, where they fitted a turbo that applied
pressure to a box around the carburettor so the pressures were balanced in
the venturi and float chamber. Basically all the carb knew was that the
atmospheric pressure was rather high. I guess if you applied this idea to
your induction set up (i.e. box round the carb fed from the air cleaner).
Then you could install the leaf blower in the line betrween the air cleaner
and carb and boost the induction pressure at will. Fit a pressure gauge and
separate pressure controlled throttle for the leaf blower (operator
adjustable of course) and your off to the races. Literally !!!! Won't work
with an electric leaf blower though.

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Message: 3
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Hedstr=F6m?= <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:27:24 +0100
Subject: [lro] Questions - newbie
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi

This is my first post on this list and I wonder if there is away to get hold of old posts so I can read through them before asking you guys obvious questions?

I'm hunting information about the cause to my diesel LR88 from 1972 that has no power but heavy smoke...

Best regards
Fredrik Hedstrvm
LR 88 SIII, diesel
Stockholm, Sweden

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Message: 4
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:25:43 EST
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Info for the Winter Romp
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Who has info on who I can contact for this years Winter Romp?
Thanks,
Jason

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Message: 5
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "'Alan J. Richer '" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]
  '" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Another safety tip
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:39:36 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

 You bastards - don't even JOKE about that......

aj"Rebuilding Mr. C with LOTS of power tools...and now nervous"r

Even no power "tools" can be hazardous.

Dismantled a dead hard drive on Friday to extract the magnets for a
"project".
Holding a magnet in each hand a talking to a colleague when I brought them
too close together. The atractive force slammed them together with part of
my finger between and it took a lot of effort to get them apart.

Trevor"typing with my middle finger" Easton.

The month is over now so we are safe!!!!

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Message: 6
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:41:43 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] 4wd Newsgroup (was: air cleaners)
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 11/30/2001 4:29:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

<< Marin Faure wrote:
 >In the mid-1990s I regularly participated in the rec.autos.4wd newsgroup 
 >for about a year.
 >
 Time certainly flies.  Back when I first got into
 computers and the internet I used to peruse that
 newsgroup quite often.  As I recall, you were one
 of the few valued Land Rover resources participating >>

Funny,

Now that you mention it, I remember Marin from that forum too.  He used to 
have in his sig line something like, "Author of the Floatplane, 1990" or some 
such.  I looked for that book at a few bookstores to get an idea of Marin's 
writing style.  Never actually put my hands on the book but Amazon.com had it 
listed.

Nate

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 06:22:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Frederik:

Welcome! 

Go to the list archives - the address should have been
given in the post you got from the system when you
joined - or go to www.land-rover.team.net and poke
around.

As far as a 72 with lots of smoke, i can think of a
few things.

1. Worn rings and low compression
2. Dirty injectors not vaporizing the fuel properly
3. Low pump pressure causing the injectors not to open
properly
4. Incorrect pump timing

Personally, I'd start with the cheapest fix - checking
the pump timing. Then it might be worth making the
acquaintance of a Diesel shop in Stockholm to get the
pump and injectors checked, and getting a compression
test done on the engine.

            ajr

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 10:54:15 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Info for the Winter Romp
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bruce Fowler at <[email-masked]>
John and Muddy

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> Who has info on who I can contact for this years Winter Romp?
> Thanks,
> Jason
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Message: 9
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Hedstr=F6m?= <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:28:42 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks Alan,

I'll find the archives and poke around in them. In regards to my diesel engine.... I do have a fuel leak at the pump that could cause low pressure. I'll check that and the timing and see what happens. 

The smoke is thick and grey in idle but goes more towards black when running under load. After standing still on idle the smoke gets worse. The engine runs smooth and with no *extra* vibrations and noise. Any takes on that?

Fredrik Hedstrom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie

> 
> Frederik:
> 
> Welcome! 
> 
> Go to the list archives - the address should have been
> given in the post you got from the system when you
> joined - or go to www.land-rover.team.net and poke
> around.
> 
> As far as a 72 with lots of smoke, i can think of a
> few things.
> 
> 1. Worn rings and low compression
> 2. Dirty injectors not vaporizing the fuel properly
> 3. Low pump pressure causing the injectors not to open
> properly
> 4. Incorrect pump timing
> 
> Personally, I'd start with the cheapest fix - checking
> the pump timing. Then it might be worth making the
> acquaintance of a Diesel shop in Stockholm to get the
> pump and injectors checked, and getting a compression
> test done on the engine.
> 
>             ajr
> 
> 
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 13:33:30 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie
Reply-To: [email-masked]

That sounds a lot like worn injectors.
John and Muddy

Fredrik Hedstrvm wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan,
> 
> I'll find the archives and poke around in them. In regards to my diesel engine.... I do have a fuel leak at the pump that could cause low pressure. I'll check that and the timing and see what happens.
> 
> The smoke is thick and grey in idle but goes more towards black when running under load. After standing still on idle the smoke gets worse. The engine runs smooth and with no *extra* vibrations and noise. Any takes on that?
> 
> Fredrik Hedstrom
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie
> 
> >
> > Frederik:
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> > Go to the list archives - the address should have been
> > given in the post you got from the system when you
> > joined - or go to www.land-rover.team.net and poke
> > around.
> >
> > As far as a 72 with lots of smoke, i can think of a
> > few things.
> >
> > 1. Worn rings and low compression
> > 2. Dirty injectors not vaporizing the fuel properly
> > 3. Low pump pressure causing the injectors not to open
> > properly
> > 4. Incorrect pump timing
> >
> > Personally, I'd start with the cheapest fix - checking
> > the pump timing. Then it might be worth making the
> > acquaintance of a Diesel shop in Stockholm to get the
> > pump and injectors checked, and getting a compression
> > test done on the engine.
> >
> >             ajr
> >
> >
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:55:14 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "C. Marin Faure" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] (no subject)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:28:42 -0700
Subject: [lro] 4wd Newsgroup (was: air cleaners)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Marin Faure wrote:
>>In the mid-1990s I regularly participated in the rec.autos.4wd newsgroup
>for about a year.

>Time certainly flies.  Back when I first got into
computers and the internet I used to peruse that
newsgroup quite often.  As I recall, you were one
of the few valued Land Rover resources participating
in that group.  After you moved on, people would
still ask for you on LR related questions.

The 4wd newsgroup was interesting, but almost all the
posts and discussions were about vehicles I'm not
acquainted with or interested in.  The length of my
posts to this group notwithstanding, I actually have
relatively little time for casual use of the internet
these days.  I have found that the LRO list is far more
valuable and is populated with far more interesting
(to me) people.  Despite my fairly firm position on the
"leave it as built-grumpy old codger" side of the line,
I find the comments and discussions on this list far
more relevant, not only to the type of vehicle I'm
interested in, but to "life" in general.  The 4wd
newsgroup seemed mostly populated with "my
truck's better than yours" types, and the discussions
often degenerated into "Oh yeah?", "Yeah!" threads.
These days I only look at three "discussion" lists-
this one, the UK canalboat list, and the trawler list,
and the LRO list is the only one I reguarly respond
to.  Despite the differences I've had with many of you
over the years (and will continue to have), I'm pretty
impressed with the experiences, opinions, and ability
to express those opinions that I see in
the members of this group, regardless of age or location.
It's a far cry from the content of the typical newsgroup.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
   Seattle, WA

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:18:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Questions - newbie
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Fredrik_Hedstrvm <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan,
> 
> I'll find the archives and poke around in them. In
> regards to my diesel engine.... I do have a fuel
> leak at the pump that could cause low pressure. I'll
> check that and the timing and see what happens. 

If you mean a leak at the high-pressure end (the
distribution pump, not the lift pump ) that could
definitely be an issue.
> 
> The smoke is thick and grey in idle but goes more
> towards black when running under load. 

Hmmmm...not sure to be honest. I'm still ldeaning
toward buggered injectors or timing. 

              ajr

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Message: 13
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Anyone on this list named Andy Pease?
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:19:45 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

My virus bot caught it - don't open anything with an attachment from Andy
Pease... It's a bug!

J-L

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Message: 14
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:31:28 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Leafblower Turbo 
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 [email-masked] wrote: 

<< What's to stop someone from modifying their carburetor for the occasional 
use of a leafblower as a turbo charger? >>

What is to stop somebody from using their Land Rover to turbocharge a 
leafblower?

Paul

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:40:24 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Leafblower Turbo 
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- [email-masked] wrote:

> What is to stop somebody from using their Land Rover
> to turbocharge a 
> leafblower?

Naahhhhh...the leafblower already has a better power
to weight ratio.....8*)

          ajr

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:55:52 +0200
To: [email-masked]
From: Paul Nash <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Does anyone know, or point to a web site that knows, what the import 
regulations are for vehicles to Canada?

Bottom line is, can an immigrant to Canada bring a well-used 1995 110 
Tdi with them legally?  If so, what would have to be done (conversion 
to LHD, etc) before it could travel to Canada?  Could it stay there 
permanently, or only for a few years?  Could it be sold (and if so, 
is there a period before it can be sold)?

I suspect that the answer to *all* of the above will be *NO*, but I 
want to confirm this before making a final decision about disposal.

	paul
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Message: 17
From: "Robert S. Cascaddan" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:18:17 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Does anyone know, or point to a web site that knows, what the import
> regulations are for vehicles to Canada?

Here is a place you can start.  I am sure they could point you to where you
could find out more detailed information.

http://www.landrovercentre.com/canada/welcome.htm

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Message: 18
From: "Andy Pease" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Anyone on this list named Andy Pease?
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:46:11 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I can't remember the last time I got so much attention. This is not how I
envisioned using my 15 minutes of fame... ;-)
BTW, hey look - No virus!

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Anyone on this list named Andy Pease?

>
> My virus bot caught it - don't open anything with an attachment from Andy
> Pease... It's a bug!
>
>
> J-L
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Message: 19
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 01 12:06:14 -0800
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO list" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Does anyone know, or point to a web site that knows, what the import 
>regulations are for vehicles to Canada?

Yes links to both the Canadian and US vehicle import regulations are in 
the links page (misc section) of the Land Rover pages in my personal web 
site.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
[email-masked]           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:29:41 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It is relatively simple. If the vehicle is less than 15 years old to the
date of manufacture it is not eligible for importation.
However if you are visiting you may bring virtually any vehicle with you
and keep it here for One year.
You may drive Right hand control vehicles with no restrictions.
The vehicle may not be sold.
John and Muddy

Paul Nash wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know, or point to a web site that knows, what the import
> regulations are for vehicles to Canada?
> 
> Bottom line is, can an immigrant to Canada bring a well-used 1995 110
> Tdi with them legally?  If so, what would have to be done (conversion
> to LHD, etc) before it could travel to Canada?  Could it stay there
> permanently, or only for a few years?  Could it be sold (and if so,
> is there a period before it can be sold)?
> 
> I suspect that the answer to *all* of the above will be *NO*, but I
> want to confirm this before making a final decision about disposal.
> 
>         paul
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:52:23 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 4:29 PM -0400 12/2/01, John Cranfield wrote:
>It is relatively simple. If the vehicle is less than 15 years old to the
>date of manufacture it is not eligible for importation.
>However if you are visiting you may bring virtually any vehicle with you
>and keep it here for One year.
>You may drive Right hand control vehicles with no restrictions.
>The vehicle may not be sold.

Uh.... well not so fast there.  It ain't THAT simple and it sure as 
hell ain't straight forward.

A couple years ago I planned to give my mother-in-law my '84 Subaru 
to replace her rusted out Chevy POS.  I figured that, with its 4WD, 
it would be ideal for her in the snowy mountains of British Columbia 
and the car only had 50K on it and was in perfect condition after 14 
pampered years in California.

In preparation I contacted an assortment of Canadian gummint entities 
and found that no one could/would give me the definitive 
requirements.  I called the provincial offices for information on 
motor vehicles, customs, immigration, some sort of insurance bureau, 
licensing, etc.  It was mostly an exercise in frustration, more so 
than even here in California.  What little I did learn was that I 
needed all the ORIGINAL paperwork, including title and bill of sale. 
In addition I needed a report from the US Safety Commission (or some 
such authority)  indicating that the vehicle was legally imported to 
the US, legally registered and complied with all regulations.  Plus I 
had to provide a printout of all the applicable recalls along with 
evidence that they had been performed.

Most important of all, I learned that I really needed to deal with a 
customs broker at the border.

The BAD news was that when I got there, even the broker was going 
nuts trying to figure out all the application regulations and it took 
hours and many phone calls to learn that, even though he'd just 
received a shipment of new revised forms the day before, all the 
paperwork he had was out of date.  Eventually we got through the 
paper maze at the border, paid the $650 (Cdn) GST (or some such tax) 
and I forget how much duty and I think some other fee, in addition to 
the brokers charges....  All together it was somewhere around $1,000.

Then we ran into the real trouble.  In order to have it licensed we 
had to have a Provincial safety inspection performed.  They must be 
done by a certified garage and they were all backed up or didn't know 
anything about Subarus.  Took a couple days to get that done.  Then 
we applied for the license and insurance (they're combined in some 
way in BC) and found that we still needed some other inspection which 
meant taking the car into the big city (they live in the sticks) 
where it had to wait a couple days while they got the pertinent 
information to validate the inspection.

After more than a week of working on this, confident that we'd taken 
care of everything and that the mother-in-law would have no worries, 
we returned to California.  Two months later we got a call.  She 
gotten a nasty letter from the Feds in Ottawa telling her that she 
was in violation of a few indecipherable laws/regulations.  She was 
to turn the car in to the authorities at their offices (250 miles 
away) immediately.    She was in hysterics of course.  After checking 
with as many offices as I could phone, I asked my brother-in-law to 
check into it.  It turns out that the place that performed the 
federal inspection had committed some sins: they used the wrong 
(outdated) form, sent it to the wrong place and filled it out 
incorrectly.  When confronted they resolved the matter but it was 
nearly a year before everything was in proper order.

Now legally in the Canadian system. the car can be sold but ALL the 
paperwork most follow it for the rest of its life.

I ain't ever gonna try to get a car into Canada again except as a 
tourist.  On the plus side, I don't hate the Calif DMV quite as much 
as I once did.

Cheers,
Gerry Mugele    --  ("Peat" '95 D90 SW)

***  They say  "Great Discoveries are made by not following 
instructions."   Does this explain Land Rover assembly line practices?

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Message: 22
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:26:56 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Reconditioned
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Elwyn writes :  So, What is actually done to an alternator when it is
reconditioned?
 
It depends who does the reconditioning, generally as little as possible
so work is minimised and profits are maximised.  It can range from wiping
with an oily rag, through a range of options up to cleaning, fitting new
bearings, brushes, commutator, voltage regulator and diode pack and
testing.  
 The windings are generally pretty good, if damaged the alternator is
probably used as a spared source for other repairs

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 23
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:18:39 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] wheel fasteners
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Tom writes    Has anyone come across a source for the bolts and nuts for
L/R two part wheels? I 
suppose I may be able to match up some from McMaster Carr, but thought
I'd see if 
anyone knows of a source for genuine fist

 I doubt that you would find them at MC.  They are rather special purpose
and were used on Brituish ARmy vehicles in the fifties, the Austin Champ
wheel was also split ( it was wider than the LR rim) and fits a LR) I
suggest that the ex military guys may have some i.e.  Blanchrds or L 
Jackson of Misson.

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:46:43 -0400
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hmmm pity you weren't taking it into Nova Scotia.
I imported 2 land Rovers from the US last year.
As long as I had the title to them and a transfer of pwnership all was
well. I did need to get them registered in my name to drive that day but
had I towed them that wouldn't need to be done until I wanted to put
them on the road. It was all relitively simple but naturally waiting for
the paperwork to be processed was a bit hard work.
John and Muddy 

"G. Mugele" wrote:
> 
> At 4:29 PM -0400 12/2/01, John Cranfield wrote:
> >It is relatively simple. If the vehicle is less than 15 years old to the
> >date of manufacture it is not eligible for importation.
> >However if you are visiting you may bring virtually any vehicle with you
> >and keep it here for One year.
> >You may drive Right hand control vehicles with no restrictions.
> >The vehicle may not be sold.
> 
> Uh.... well not so fast there.  It ain't THAT simple and it sure as
> hell ain't straight forward.
> 
> A couple years ago I planned to give my mother-in-law my '84 Subaru
> to replace her rusted out Chevy POS.  I figured that, with its 4WD,
> it would be ideal for her in the snowy mountains of British Columbia
> and the car only had 50K on it and was in perfect condition after 14
> pampered years in California.
> 
> In preparation I contacted an assortment of Canadian gummint entities
> and found that no one could/would give me the definitive
> requirements.  I called the provincial offices for information on
> motor vehicles, customs, immigration, some sort of insurance bureau,
> licensing, etc.  It was mostly an exercise in frustration, more so
> than even here in California.  What little I did learn was that I
> needed all the ORIGINAL paperwork, including title and bill of sale.
> In addition I needed a report from the US Safety Commission (or some
> such authority)  indicating that the vehicle was legally imported to
> the US, legally registered and complied with all regulations.  Plus I
> had to provide a printout of all the applicable recalls along with
> evidence that they had been performed.
> 
> Most important of all, I learned that I really needed to deal with a
> customs broker at the border.
> 
> The BAD news was that when I got there, even the broker was going
> nuts trying to figure out all the application regulations and it took
> hours and many phone calls to learn that, even though he'd just
> received a shipment of new revised forms the day before, all the
> paperwork he had was out of date.  Eventually we got through the
> paper maze at the border, paid the $650 (Cdn) GST (or some such tax)
> and I forget how much duty and I think some other fee, in addition to
> the brokers charges....  All together it was somewhere around $1,000.
> 
> Then we ran into the real trouble.  In order to have it licensed we
> had to have a Provincial safety inspection performed.  They must be
> done by a certified garage and they were all backed up or didn't know
> anything about Subarus.  Took a couple days to get that done.  Then
> we applied for the license and insurance (they're combined in some
> way in BC) and found that we still needed some other inspection which
> meant taking the car into the big city (they live in the sticks)
> where it had to wait a couple days while they got the pertinent
> information to validate the inspection.
> 
> After more than a week of working on this, confident that we'd taken
> care of everything and that the mother-in-law would have no worries,
> we returned to California.  Two months later we got a call.  She
> gotten a nasty letter from the Feds in Ottawa telling her that she
> was in violation of a few indecipherable laws/regulations.  She was
> to turn the car in to the authorities at their offices (250 miles
> away) immediately.    She was in hysterics of course.  After checking
> with as many offices as I could phone, I asked my brother-in-law to
> check into it.  It turns out that the place that performed the
> federal inspection had committed some sins: they used the wrong
> (outdated) form, sent it to the wrong place and filled it out
> incorrectly.  When confronted they resolved the matter but it was
> nearly a year before everything was in proper order.
> 
> Now legally in the Canadian system. the car can be sold but ALL the
> paperwork most follow it for the rest of its life.
> 
> I ain't ever gonna try to get a car into Canada again except as a
> tourist.  On the plus side, I don't hate the Calif DMV quite as much
> as I once did.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerry Mugele    --  ("Peat" '95 D90 SW)
> 
> ***  They say  "Great Discoveries are made by not following
> instructions."   Does this explain Land Rover assembly line practices?
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Message: 25
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:04:35 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I work for a garage that does this type of inspection for Ontario... These
can be a pain, but all that is needed usually is some easily available forms
from the government and a letter from the manufacturer that states that
there are no recalls on the vehicle.

Usually it is very straightforward...

 J-L
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cranfield <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)

>
> Hmmm pity you weren't taking it into Nova Scotia.
> I imported 2 land Rovers from the US last year.
> As long as I had the title to them and a transfer of pwnership all was
> well. I did need to get them registered in my name to drive that day but
> had I towed them that wouldn't need to be done until I wanted to put
> them on the road. It was all relitively simple but naturally waiting for
> the paperwork to be processed was a bit hard work.
> John and Muddy
>
> "G. Mugele" wrote:
> >
> > At 4:29 PM -0400 12/2/01, John Cranfield wrote:
> > >It is relatively simple. If the vehicle is less than 15 years old to
the
> > >date of manufacture it is not eligible for importation.
> > >However if you are visiting you may bring virtually any vehicle with
you
> > >and keep it here for One year.
> > >You may drive Right hand control vehicles with no restrictions.
> > >The vehicle may not be sold.
> >
> > Uh.... well not so fast there.  It ain't THAT simple and it sure as
> > hell ain't straight forward.
> >
> > A couple years ago I planned to give my mother-in-law my '84 Subaru
> > to replace her rusted out Chevy POS.  I figured that, with its 4WD,
> > it would be ideal for her in the snowy mountains of British Columbia
> > and the car only had 50K on it and was in perfect condition after 14
> > pampered years in California.
> >
> > In preparation I contacted an assortment of Canadian gummint entities
> > and found that no one could/would give me the definitive
> > requirements.  I called the provincial offices for information on
> > motor vehicles, customs, immigration, some sort of insurance bureau,
> > licensing, etc.  It was mostly an exercise in frustration, more so
> > than even here in California.  What little I did learn was that I
> > needed all the ORIGINAL paperwork, including title and bill of sale.
> > In addition I needed a report from the US Safety Commission (or some
> > such authority)  indicating that the vehicle was legally imported to
> > the US, legally registered and complied with all regulations.  Plus I
> > had to provide a printout of all the applicable recalls along with
> > evidence that they had been performed.
> >
> > Most important of all, I learned that I really needed to deal with a
> > customs broker at the border.
> >
> > The BAD news was that when I got there, even the broker was going
> > nuts trying to figure out all the application regulations and it took
> > hours and many phone calls to learn that, even though he'd just
> > received a shipment of new revised forms the day before, all the
> > paperwork he had was out of date.  Eventually we got through the
> > paper maze at the border, paid the $650 (Cdn) GST (or some such tax)
> > and I forget how much duty and I think some other fee, in addition to
> > the brokers charges....  All together it was somewhere around $1,000.
> >
> > Then we ran into the real trouble.  In order to have it licensed we
> > had to have a Provincial safety inspection performed.  They must be
> > done by a certified garage and they were all backed up or didn't know
> > anything about Subarus.  Took a couple days to get that done.  Then
> > we applied for the license and insurance (they're combined in some
> > way in BC) and found that we still needed some other inspection which
> > meant taking the car into the big city (they live in the sticks)
> > where it had to wait a couple days while they got the pertinent
> > information to validate the inspection.
> >
> > After more than a week of working on this, confident that we'd taken
> > care of everything and that the mother-in-law would have no worries,
> > we returned to California.  Two months later we got a call.  She
> > gotten a nasty letter from the Feds in Ottawa telling her that she
> > was in violation of a few indecipherable laws/regulations.  She was
> > to turn the car in to the authorities at their offices (250 miles
> > away) immediately.    She was in hysterics of course.  After checking
> > with as many offices as I could phone, I asked my brother-in-law to
> > check into it.  It turns out that the place that performed the
> > federal inspection had committed some sins: they used the wrong
> > (outdated) form, sent it to the wrong place and filled it out
> > incorrectly.  When confronted they resolved the matter but it was
> > nearly a year before everything was in proper order.
> >
> > Now legally in the Canadian system. the car can be sold but ALL the
> > paperwork most follow it for the rest of its life.
> >
> > I ain't ever gonna try to get a car into Canada again except as a
> > tourist.  On the plus side, I don't hate the Calif DMV quite as much
> > as I once did.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gerry Mugele    --  ("Peat" '95 D90 SW)
> >
> > ***  They say  "Great Discoveries are made by not following
> > instructions."   Does this explain Land Rover assembly line practices?
> > _______________________________________________
> > LRO mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
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Message: 26
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 15:53:51 -0800
From: Paul Quin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I think that as with anything to do with the government, it can be really
simple or really complex and exasperating.

Sounds like you had the latter here.

I know of lots of people who've imported cars from The States and overseas
with no problems at all (I live in BC).

In the late eighties and early nineties, there was a thriving business of
importing Mercedes, BMW's Mazda's and the like from southern California,
where they were cheap, to Vancouver, where they were not so cheap.

One good trick is to work with a customs broker who knows his stuff.

Paul Quin
61 SII
Victoria, BC  Canada

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Message: 27
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:43:22 -0800
From: Brian Horner <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Fluids! ;o)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi All!

As I stated once before - my Series III is my first old Rover.  I am about
to get set on my first big fluid check/top & change and was wondering if
anyone has any information or suggestions that may differ from what is
recommended in the original owners manual or the big green Series III Repair
Operation Manual?  I am about to dump Pennzoil 10w40 into my engine, for
example, is that what everyone else sees as a proper choice for Northern-Cal
climate. 

Thanks for your comments & advice.

Brian
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Message: 28
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 20:11:43 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Heat treating steel
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 11/6/2001 6:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

<< ... Interestingly, it broke about 2" down the shaft, away from
 >the weld - I did a rockwell test on the shaft and it broke at a point
 where
 >the hardness was greater than the welded area, which means it was a
 totally
 >unrelated failure - 
 
 Could it be that you formed a stress riser at the junction of the
 hardened and non hardened metals, and the break was directly related to
 the weld?  Filler metal would be critical here, most are low carbon and
 may scavenge carbon from the base metal.
 
 Copper plate the shaft and have it hardened, if the filler metal allows,
 then remove the copper.  No scale on the shaft.   >>

Ok, Ok I know I'm really behind on the list, but...

Chris, 

Anytime you want to move and be my next door neighbor, you're more than 
welcome.  BTW, I've got a few things that could stand a bit of heat 
treating...

Nate

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Message: 29
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:34:19 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Fluids! ;o)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The big green manual is often called The Green Bibile. When in doubt, 
follow it :)

I use 20W-50 in my truck (I think, maybe 20W-40). The 20wt doesn't leak so 
much. Of course, I also don't live in Northern California.

Keith
------------
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    http://keith.miata.net
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Message: 30
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:32:42 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Importing to Canada (long sob story)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>A couple years ago I planned to give my mother-in-law my '84 Subaru to 
>replace her rusted out Chevy POS.

This may be the source of the problem. Was the car actually 15 years old at 
the time? That makes all the difference. If you did this in 1998, the car 
was only 14 and thus had to meet all sorts of extra regs.

Basically, it's a similar process to importing a car into the US except 
that 25 years is the magic number there. That's why there are so many 
lightweights in Canada relative to the US :) I've got a friend who's 
importing a modified 1987 Mini from the UK into Canada. I'll follow up.

Keith
------------
Keith's page de home:
    http://keith.miata.net
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Message: 31
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:11:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Fluids! ;o)
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Here in SoCal (Los Angeles), I use 20W-50 in my IIA.

I started using Lucas Oil Additives about 1500 miles ago.  I no longer
"puff" smoke at start up and the engine sounds quieter.  I also used it in
the gear oil in the t-box, gear box, and diffs.  The rear diff is now much
quieter and I no longer transfer oil from the gear box to the t-box (though
I think the breathers I added to both helped in that as well).  Next year
(or the next time I change the gear oil, I will probably use the straight
Lucas gear oil instead of the additive).

IMHO
YMMV
NGIAFS

Jeff

on 12/2/01 3:34 PM, Keith Tanner at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> The big green manual is often called The Green Bibile. When in doubt,
> follow it :)
> 
> I use 20W-50 in my truck (I think, maybe 20W-40). The 20wt doesn't leak so
> much. Of course, I also don't live in Northern California.
> 
> Keith
> ------------
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> http://keith.miata.net
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Message: 32
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 00:00:43 -0500
From: Dick Joltes <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Fluids! ;o)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Brian Horner wrote:
 
> As I stated once before - my Series III is my first old Rover.  I am about
> to get set on my first big fluid check/top & change and was wondering if
> anyone has any information or suggestions that may differ from what is
> recommended in the original owners manual or the big green Series III Repair
> Operation Manual?  I am about to dump Pennzoil 10w40 into my engine, for
> example, is that what everyone else sees as a proper choice for Northern-Cal
> climate.

Don't know about that particular weight for your climate, but I would
not dump Pennzoil into a particularly hated lawnmower, not to mention
my Rover!  I had numerous problems with Pennzoil foaming in the past
and simply stopped using it; maybe it's improved lately.

Valvoline, Wolfs Head, Kendall are my choices, but YMMV.

dj
1974 SIII Airportable, "Smudger"

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