Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #155 - 22 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Overdrive bearings (Alan J. Richer)
   2. Peter Hope's Web page (Kirk Hillman)
   3. Re: Peter Hope's Web page (Hope Peter)
   4. Paul Oxley's rover photos (Hope Peter)
   5. NY Freelander siting (Lori Sickley)
   6. Re: Intermittent electrical fault help needed (Faure, Marin)
   7. PTO hydraulic pump (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?=)
   8. RE: NY Freelander siting (Easton Trevor A)
   9. RE: NY Freelander siting (Keith Tanner)
  10. Re: NY Freelander siting (Mark Pilkington)
  11. RE: NY Freelander siting (Lori Sickley)
  12. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  13. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  14. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  15. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  16. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  17. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  18. Re: NY Freelander siting (Jean-Leon Morin)
  19. Re: NY Freelander siting (Scott Wickham)
  20. Re: NY Freelander siting (Jim Hall)
  21. Re: NY Freelander siting ([email-masked])
  22. Re: Paul Oxley's rover photos (Paul Oxley)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 03:36:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Overdrive bearings
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- William L Leacock <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> In the past (sometime in the last seven years) I
> have posted bearing
> lists on the digest, both for all Land Rover
> bearings and for overdrives.
>  Unfortunately I am not disciplined at filing this
> information since I
> have a basic understanding iof bearing types, sizes
> etc and can look it
> up in one of several catalogues that I possess, this
> is usually quicker
> than looking for a list..

Well, some of us do and don't have the
catalogues.....though I should after all these
years.... 8*)

>From an ancient memo from Bill Leacock lo these many
years ago:

Came accross the following in my file, the info is
several years old and can't vouch for it now but
YPATYC

RTC 7186 x 2 = INA AXK 2035 Brg and LS2035 washer  x 2
  in 1990 Rover price
$10 each, ina price $6
RTC 7174  = Ina AXK 3047 brg plus AS3047 washer +
Ws81106 washer Rover price
$16 Ina price $8
RTC 71843=( Ina AXK3047 brg plus AS3047 washer x2) x3 
Rover price $22 ea
Ina price  $3 ea= $9 total
RTC 7185 x 2  = Ina K30 x35x17 +IR25x30x17 sleeve
Rover price  ? Ina price $10 RTC 7173 oil seal 
=weston  W37429551R4A9 ( 50mm x 58mm x4mm)  ( $ 2.50
ea )
( 1990 m)
oil seal 75mm x 95mm x 13 mm  $4 ( in 1990 )

Thank you for being here, Bill.....

                     Alan

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Message: 2
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:33:33 -0700
Subject: [lro] Peter Hope's Web page
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have looked and searched and looked some more, but I can't hit either
Peter's web page or the message he sent to the list with the new URL.  Pete,
if you are out there please post it to the list or to me offline.

Thanks
Kirk
... and the Banshee that isn't...

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Message: 3
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Peter Hope's Web page
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:12:39 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

http://www.aloharovers.com/

We had some flooding here at the house last night that took out the phone
lines so the DSL was out also.  Things are back up now.

Pete
From: Kirk
> I have looked and searched and looked some more, but I can't hit either
> Peter's web page or the message he sent to the list with the new URL.
Pete,
> if you are out there please post it to the list or to me offline.
>
> Thanks
> Kirk
> ... and the Banshee that isn't...

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Message: 4
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:44:08 -0800
Subject: [lro] Paul Oxley's rover photos
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Aloha,
Paul the other day you mentioned you were going to be posting some photos of
a rover you have been building.
Did I miss the list message with the link?
Pete

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:11:03 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Don't know if it has arrived at other dealerships yet so this could be 
quite common, but a Freelander is at Bedford Hills Land Rover in New York 
and is making the LR dealership rounds if anyone is so inclined.

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Message: 6
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:45:47 -0800
Subject: [lro] Re: Intermittent electrical fault help needed
Reply-To: [email-masked]

From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:07:27 -0800
Subject: [lro] Intermittent electrical fault help needed
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Over the last few months I've had a problem with the
ignition/electrical system....

This is pure speculation, but if you still have the problem 
after the things you've already done, I wonder if you might have a 
"near short" somewhere that becomes a dead short under specific 
circumstances.  I've had one occasion where everything 
worked fine until I shifted into reverse.  Whenever I did 
that, the brake lights would no longer function, and the fuse that 
holds, among other things, the brake lights would be blown.  
Put in a new fuse, everything would be fine until I shifted into 
reverse again, at which point the fuse would blow and the 
brake lights would no longer work.  It took a long time to 
even make the relationship between shifting into reverse and 
the brake light fuse blowing, but once I did, I assumed the fault 
was in the reverse light switch on the transmission. On pulling the 
floor off, I found the switch was fine, but the insulation had worn 
off one of the wires to the switch after 25-plus years of banging 
and rubbing against the back of the bell housing.  Once the insulation 
was gone, if the wire happened to be in contact with the bellhousing 
when I shifted into reverse, it would short out and blow the fuse.  
A look at the schematic showed that the fuse that protects the reverse 
lights also protects the brake lights.

It's possible you have a similar situation, perhaps in or around the 
ignition switch.  Or maybe there is a fault 
in your alternator, although I shouldn't think a bad alternator would 
cause an engine to quit.  It can stop charging the battery, which 
would cause the charge light to come on, but the engine should 
continue to run until it drains the battery.  The fact that the engine 
is quitting indicates that something is happening to the ignition.  But 
whatever it is, it doesn't last long.  So maybe you have a faulty coil or 
condenser, or the lead that goes to the center of the distributor might 
be bad.  I've had faulty condensers, and the engine will not run with 
a bad one.  So maybe when you get moisture in the differential, it's causing

a problem with the condenser.

The fact that the engine will restart after a short wait indicates a couple
of 
things.  Either something is cooling down enough to make contact again, 
or something is drying out enough to eliminate a short or other malfunction.

None of this supplies an answer, but maybe it will give you some ideas as to

how to troubleshoot the thing.  I'd start with the easy stuff first, and
make sure 
there aren't any chafed, worn, or cracked wires to or from the ignition
switch,
alternator, coil, or distributor, including the ground wires. If the wiring
all 
checks out okay, then maybe replace 
the condenser in the distributor.  This is easy to do and doesn't require 
re-timing the engine.  If that doesn't help, try changing the coil.

_________________________________________
C. Marin Faure
(original owner)
1973 Land Rover Series III-88
1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
Seattle

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:17:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?= <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] PTO hydraulic pump
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Message: 10
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:32:24 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Koenig winches
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 11/12/01 7:07:27 AM, [email-masked] writes:

<< It's unfortunate that Land Rover gearboxes do not have a 
standard PTO
port on the side like most US manufacturers use. This would 
solve a LOT
of power distribution issues that come with adding accessories 
like
winches and such. >>

Bill
    I am going to manufacture a PTO driven hydraulic pump 
similar to the 
early ones that LR sold for the hydraulic winch and other 
hydraulic 
accessories. Not sure when I will release it.

Bill
GBR

I know you can sell at least two almost immediatly here in
England.  Probably more...

Hows everything going lately?  

=====
Robert D. Ries
Burwell, England
"With friends like these..."
Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Message: 8
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "'Lori Sickley '" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked] '"
  <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:28:33 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

 There was a fleet of then doing the rounds. We took a ride October 1st in
Toronto. I think the tour has finished now. This weekend is the big US
Freelander launch in Las Vegas. You could track the Freelanders by going to
Freelander.com up to yesterday, but that seems to be gone now.

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:31:31 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

For those who are interested, there was a supercharged Freelander at SEMA. 
It had the M62 Roots supercharger on it. Nice job.

Keith

At 14:28 11/14/01, you wrote:

>  There was a fleet of then doing the rounds. We took a ride October 1st in
>Toronto. I think the tour has finished now. This weekend is the big US
>Freelander launch in Las Vegas. You could track the Freelanders by going to
>Freelander.com up to yesterday, but that seems to be gone now.
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:02:08 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It was here in Sacramento Last Monday at the Hubacher Land Rover Dealership.
I took the V8 yellow peril down as a promotional thing and was cheered as I
arrived.  I drove mine around the little 4WD course they have there for
nostalgic purposes.  I saw the Freelander, got the hat and was invited to
drive it, which I declined because we have had them in England for years.  My
wife's brother had a 2 door one.  They are great.  Buy one.
Kind regards,
Mark

Lori Sickley wrote:

> Don't know if it has arrived at other dealerships yet so this could be
> quite common, but a Freelander is at Bedford Hills Land Rover in New York
> and is making the LR dealership rounds if anyone is so inclined.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:35:42 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 04:28 PM 11/14/01, Trevor wrote:

>  There was a fleet of then doing the rounds. We took a ride October 1st in
>Toronto. I think the tour has finished now. This weekend is the big US
>Freelander launch in Las Vegas. You could track the Freelanders by going to
>Freelander.com up to yesterday, but that seems to be gone now.

When is Mary's due to arrive?

Track them here:
http://www.guardianlocate.com/freelander.html

Now you can place your IPO order (with no commitment cancel at any time!) 
and track it from production in Solihull to delivery at the dealership 
March 2002.

Should we all place a web order.....nah ; )
http://www.freelander.com/freelander/servlet/HomePage

Land Rover actually *acknowledges* a Series LR with a picture on the 
heritage page!
Of course it's now known as the Defender!
http://www.freelander.com/freelander/servlet/Heritage

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Message: 12
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:12:00 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and is making the LR dealership rounds

  Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I went
to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.  Well
I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
  We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.

Scooter

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Message: 13
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:14:07 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and is making the LR dealership rounds

  Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I went
to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.  Well
I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
  We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.  Met a guy
there, John Kostuch, who will probably be the 1st in Pittsburgh with a
Freelander.  Trying to get him to join the club.

Scooter

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Message: 14
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:14:12 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and is making the LR dealership rounds

  Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I went
to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.  Well
I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
  We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.  Met a guy
there, John Kostuch, who will probably be the 1st in Pittsburgh with a
Freelander.  Trying to get him to join the club.

Scooter

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Message: 15
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:16:20 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Whoops, sorry for the multi post.  Lost my mind just for a minute...

Scooter

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Message: 16
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:15:11 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and is making the LR dealership rounds

  Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I went
to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.  Well
I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
  We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.  Met a guy
there, John Kostuch, who will probably be the 1st in Pittsburgh with a
Freelander.  Trying to get him to join the club.

Scooter

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Message: 17
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:14:34 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and is making the LR dealership rounds

  Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I went
to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.  Well
I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
  We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.  Met a guy
there, John Kostuch, who will probably be the 1st in Pittsburgh with a
Freelander.  Trying to get him to join the club.

Scooter

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Message: 18
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:42:53 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Uhhh...

Am I getting Scooter in "surround sound"?

Juat got 5 copies of this message...

Or is it too much calculus homework impairing my vision....

J-L
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Wickham <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting

>
> and is making the LR dealership rounds
>
>   Yes, is that the Freelander: Road to Adventure folks?  Courtney and I
went
> to the local dealer for the test drive.  Nice little truck for most things
> except the woods.  I brought along a bunch of Rover pics from various
> rally's to show.  The guy who went along with us on the drive is looking
> through them and says, "Hey, this guy looks familiar", pointing to Gary
> Schroeder.  Yea, he used to live in Pgh. and was a member of the club.
Well
> I went with him on his test drive at Metro West.  Small world.
>   We took the HSE for a spin.  Love that Steptronic tranny.  Met a guy
> there, John Kostuch, who will probably be the 1st in Pittsburgh with a
> Freelander.  Trying to get him to join the club.
>
> Scooter
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

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Message: 19
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:48:45 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have no idea what's going on.  My outbox is empty so I don't think I'll be
sending any more of that message.

Scooter

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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:02:01 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

There was one in Denver in early october. One of the Solihull Society 
members who works at the dealership that had it got to bring it to our 
meeting.

Lori Sickley wrote:
> 
> Don't know if it has arrived at other dealerships yet so this could be
> quite common, but a Freelander is at Bedford Hills Land Rover in New York
> and is making the LR dealership rounds if anyone is so inclined.
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 21
From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:16:32 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] NY Freelander siting
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 11/14/01 11:13:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email-masked] 
writes:

I saw one last summer at a Pebble Beach Horse show. The most amazing things 
to me were.
1. The rear window drops and inch or so when you touch the handle, to allow 
it to open. (it drops out of the window channel at the top of the doorway.) 
I'll be interested in the various failure methods here. open, locked, and 
broken glass.

2. If you get down by the rear of the front wheels, you can see all the way 
through the car at a height about midway through the car. Theres stuff above 
and below, but a significant hole right thru. Maybe that's the new recovery 
point?

Zack

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:02:12 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin.com
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Paul Oxley's rover photos
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hope Peter wrote:

> Paul the other day you mentioned you were going to be posting some photos of
> a rover you have been building.
> Did I miss the list message with the link?

Um, no, sorry, I have been remiss in getting the photo's up. Will do so
right now

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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