Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #154 - 32 msgs

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 03:01:03 -0500 (EST)

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Today's Topics:

   1. (no subject) (alex&shane Rae)
   2. Re: waterproof arine carpet (apsilon)
   3. Re: waterproof arine carpet (Jeff Berg)
   4. Carpet and occlusion (Garrick Olsen)
   5. Re: Carpet and occlusion (Alan J. Richer)
   6. Diesel Timing (David G. Russell)
   7. Re: waterproof arine carpet (Peter M Hope)
   8. John Cranfield Update 11/11/01 (Peter & Julie Rosvall)
   9. uk parts supplier (mark rich)
  10. Re: No lights > free advice (Mark Pilkington)
  11. Re: waterproof arine carpet (N Forbes)
  12. free advice > full refund (Rob MacCormick)
  13. Re: free advice > full refund (Mark Pilkington)
  14. Re: No lights > free advice (Bill Adams)
  15. Re: No lights > free advice (Mark Pilkington)
  16. RE: No lights > free advice (Easton Trevor A)
  17. Re: No lights > free advice (Rob MacCormick)
  18. Re: waterproof (m)arine carpet (Frank Elson)
  19. seat belt reel locked (asfco)
  20. RE: seat belt reel locked (Easton Trevor A)
  21. RE: rear diff removal and hub seals (Stude, Herman)
  22. Re: waterproof arine carpet (Hope Peter)
  23. waterproof (m)arine carpetting (Simon J. Harding)
  24. Intermittent electrical fault help needed (Simon J. Harding)
  25. Seat belt reels fixed (asfco)
  26. Overdrive bearings (William L Leacock)
  27. Re: Intermittent electrical fault help needed (Bill Adams)
  28. RE: Overdrive bearings (Peter & Julie Rosvall)
  29. RE: Overdrive bearings (Lori Sickley)
  30. Re: waterproof (m)arine carpetting (William J. Rice)
  31. Re: No lights > free advice (N Forbes)
  32. Re: free advice > full refund (Paul Oxley)

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Message: 1
From: "alex&shane Rae" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:24:56 +0000
Subject: [lro] (no subject)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks for all the advice on belts, there being sorted today!  On another
note, can anyone tell me what the deal is with tires (tyres) for my S3. 
It appears to have the original-sized pizza cutters on it.  Can I get
bigger tyres on the same rims or do I have to get wheels and tyres to go
bigger.  What do all the numbers mean (205/15 etc...).

I know i sound a bit green here but, I've never really a had vehicle
where i was bothered about the tyre size.

Shane

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Message: 2
From: "apsilon" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof arine carpet
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:30:42 +1100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> C'mon, use Astroturf!

Don't laugh, I considered just that the other day when I ran across it while
looking for rubber mats to use in the rear under the tool box to stop some
of the rattle/vibration..

Matt.
Sydney Australia
'75 Series III 88

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:34:04 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof arine carpet
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bruce Fowler found some dense grey mat-like carpet material at 
Marden's surplus up there in Maine. It's been installed in Timshel 
for two years now without problems--but I doubt it's glued to the 
floors...

I believe it's rubber-backed, not jute backed.

jeff

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Message: 4
From: "Garrick Olsen" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:39:11 -0600
Subject: [lro] Carpet and occlusion
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have read these carpet threads with interest.

Would JB acoustics style sound dampening (get it?) have the same problems?  
How is it affixed and how does it breathe?

-Rik
in Minnesota
1960 SWB SW
not doing any more work on 'er 'til after storage!

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:19:29 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Carpet and occlusion
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Garrick Olsen <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I have read these carpet threads with interest.
> 
> Would JB acoustics style sound dampening (get it?)
> have the same problems? 

No, coating the truck in JB Weld is not an acceptable
sound deadener....8*)

In a case like that I'd be afraid it would do what
auto undercoating does - allow moisture underneath to
corrode the base metal.

Can you say rust bomb? Suuuure you can.....8*)

          ajr

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:04:37 -0500
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Diesel Timing
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm back on the road with my '64 Diesel but under different driving
circumstances. Up here in NH we have a few hills, which is new for the
Diesel.

I have noticed that up to 35-45mph, on the flats, everything is fine. No
excessive exhaust, "normal" noise.

However, increase speed or find a hill, and the noise level goes up,
changes, and there is a noticeable increase in black smoke coming out
the pipes that masquerade as an exhaust. Most of it ends up in the cab.

I've been searching my archives and found the following response from
Andy Grafton in reply to a question by Dave Gomes.

> > As a diesel newbie I didn't trust myself to know the difference
> > between a damaging knock, and the "normal" diesel rattle under load.
> > Will it be obvious? I don't want to blow the thing up. If I just

> Dave I think it is fairly distinct because it knocks hard under load
> at maximum torque and full throttle rather than when cruising
> (assuming you aren't cruising at that!!!). You should aim for a
> setting that gives you a good balance between max. power and minimum
> knocking under full load. The engine will sound more aggressive under
> load, but the sound is similar to the usual running note, just more
> intense. The onset of knocking is different, being a harsher sound
> almost overlaid on the usual engine note. Make sure you test the
> timing by ear with the engine hot, as temperature makes a big
> difference.
> 
> If it is vastly over-advanced then it will knock all the time (i.e.
> when cruising on medium throttle) so play a bit to find out what that
> sounds like. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but running
> for short periods a bit over-advanced shouldn't do any damage.
> 
> If in doubt, leave it a bit retarded until you get used to it and
> drive as many old diesels as you can to get a feel for their engine
> note; that shouldn't damage anything.
> 
> The smoke you get out of the back is also a rough guideline; I found
> that when the timing was spot on the black smoke produced was a little
> more than when the engine was slightly too far advanced i.e don't
> adjust for minimum black smoke (except for the MOT). It it's too far
> retarded you will get lots of black with the engine hot but a greyer
> black whilst it is just warm. 

This seems to be my situation as well. Is there anything else I should
look for?

The engine always starts with a small puff of blue/grey and it doesn't
burn any oil. Other than that, there is no other smoke.

Thanks.

-David

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Message: 7
From: "Peter M Hope" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof arine carpet
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:50:55 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Bruce Fowler found some dense grey mat-like carpet material at
> Marden's surplus up there in Maine

Ahhh mardens.  How I miss that place.
Used to be a quarterly pilrimage as a teen.  Load up the car and spend the
day.  Something else to add to the "to-do list" if we visit next summer.
Pete

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Message: 8
From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <[email-masked]>
To: "Wise Owl" <[email-masked]>, "Steven & Erma Wuhr"
  <[email-masked]>, "Shelly O'Connor" <[email-masked]>, "Rhonda
  & Garnett Hemeon" <[email-masked]>, "Peter Knowles"
  <[email-masked]>, "Nsjeep@Hotmail. Com"
  <[email-masked]>, "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>,
  <[email-masked]>, "Melanie Dutkewych"
  <[email-masked]>, "Matty" <[email-masked]>, "Martin
  Amedeo" <[email-masked]>, "LRO" <[email-masked]>, "Karen
  Hutt" <[email-masked]>, "Kaan" <[email-masked]>, "Jamie and Kim
  Foote" <[email-masked]>, "Gerald" <[email-masked]>,
  "Francois Kirouac" <[email-masked]>, "Erik and Darlene Barr"
  <[email-masked]>, "Delrc@Topica. Com" <[email-masked]>,
  "Dave Redfern" <[email-masked]>, "Dave & Ingrid Risk"
  <[email-masked]>, "Bruce Fowler" <[email-masked]>, "Browne & Ware"
  <[email-masked]>, "Bill Redfern" <[email-masked]>,
  "Bernie & Bill Cameron" <[email-masked]>, "Ben Pooley"
  <[email-masked]>, "Andreas" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:26:12 -0400
Subject: [lro] John Cranfield Update 11/11/01
Reply-To: [email-masked]

John Cranfield is still in hospital and is expected to be there until
Wednesday.  He decided to have the injured eye removed,  this procedure is
being performed today, and a prosthetic eye is being installed.  He will
have a few days to recover in the hospital and then hopefully be home mid
week.

His sister Jennie wanted me to let people know he will be down for the count
today, due to the anesthetic, but by tomorrow will likely be bored silly, so
would love calls and visits.  If you don't have the contact information for
the hospital, just drop me a line.  If you want to send cards or notes in
the mail, you can send them to his home address, which I have as well.

Julie Rosvall
Wolfville, NS

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Message: 9
From: "mark rich" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:50:32 -0000
Subject: [lro] uk parts supplier
Reply-To: [email-masked]

sorry to all about LOUD message but not all uk parts companies are bad some of
us try hard

if you took offence i apologise

[email-masked]

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:34:16 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] No lights > free advice
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rob,
    Thank you for the free advice  I did not need it ;-) I did not actually think "Ah, I
will now go out on the busy child filled streets and be reckless and run out of gas and
drive home in the dark" I did not know that the V8 used so much gas, and the reason I
went on the side roads was so I would not kill anyone or "be killed" and I had an escort
with hazard lights and we were careful.  I did not want the police to see obviously
becuse that is extra hassle, AND the guy in the Dodge is an Ex Police Officer. AND I was
not going to leave it by the side of the road for some unappreciative scumbag to damage
through the night after all the work I have done to it.
I also noticed a slight "chip on the shoulder" in the mentioning of "roadways that I
owned"  Please try to keep from pre-judging people because I do not own it either. I
live in a private community where we caretake a house for someone and IT is on roadways
that we do not own.
Thank you for the advice, the restoration is proceeding EXACTLY as I want it to.  In
fact, Yesterday I put 4 new BF Goodrich All Terrains on it and so it is even safer.
Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington. :-)

Rob MacCormick wrote:

> Mark Pilkington wrote:
>
> > As some may know and others may not care, My 67 Series IIa with the 350 Chevy V8
> > is VERY nearly finished. It is complete, assembled and has it's safari hardtop
> > fitted.  Doors ona nd all new windows with channelling in. It is at the stage
> > where you shouldn't be driving it yet, but because you cannot wait, you do
> > anyway.
>
> ..........snip When I read this I became scared.The remainder served to justify my
> fear.
>
> snip.................Only drive them when they are REALLY finished.  Premature
> drives
> will only show up how much left there is to do and it is much more than I
> thought when I started out restoring it.
>
> Or maybe kill yourself and/or others
>
> .....Sorry your note was posted to a forum with lots of different types of folks on
> it......Me, among other things I'm a parent/user of roadways that I don't own/safety
> person
>
> PS the photos you sent to me a few weeks ago earlier showed a cool looking rig thats
> coming together nicely. Finish the %$#@$$%% thing at whatever pace you
> choose.....and follow your own advice and don't drive the thing until its ready.
>
> Rob MacCormick
> Concord, MA USA
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Message: 11
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof arine carpet
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:41:30 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Pete, what do you mean next summer? Come to Winter Romp, weekend of Feb. 
15th I believe. When you get back out west afterwards you'll think you're in 
Hawaii again ;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:54:06 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] free advice > full refund
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Mark Pilkington wrote:

> Rob,
>     Thank you for the free advice  I did not need it ;-)

Mark,
your full purchase price is being refunded.

I wrote alot of judgemental/I'm right you're wrong/type stuff associated with responding to
the rest of your message but deleted it in the interest of fire prevention.

As for tires......I love the BFG AT's we have on my wife's car.

PS I read this 10 times and wanted to add that by reffering to my wife's car I refer to the
car that my wife usually gets to drive. In no manner do I intend to pre-judge, belittle or
otherwise asses the intent or ability of others to select or use wives, cars, or tires
anywhere or at any time.

Rob

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:08:20 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] free advice > full refund
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thank you Rob,  You are a gentleman.
Kind regards,
Mark

Rob MacCormick wrote:

> Mark Pilkington wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >     Thank you for the free advice  I did not need it ;-)
>
> Mark,
> your full purchase price is being refunded.
>
> I wrote alot of judgemental/I'm right you're wrong/type stuff associated with responding to
> the rest of your message but deleted it in the interest of fire prevention.
>
> As for tires......I love the BFG AT's we have on my wife's car.
>
> PS I read this 10 times and wanted to add that by reffering to my wife's car I refer to the
> car that my wife usually gets to drive. In no manner do I intend to pre-judge, belittle or
> otherwise asses the intent or ability of others to select or use wives, cars, or tires
> anywhere or at any time.
>
> Rob
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:10:21 -0500
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] No lights > free advice
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Everyone who is not guilty of the same behavior as Mark, please take one
step forward.

Anyone?

-- 
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:16:59 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] No lights > free advice
Reply-To: [email-masked]

No-one moves......................................

Bill Adams wrote:

> Everyone who is not guilty of the same behavior as Mark, please take one
> step forward.
>
> Anyone?
>
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 16
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] No lights > free advice
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:50:17 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I moved

Trevor "I'm walking backwards" Easton
-

No-one moves......................................

Bill Adams wrote:

> Everyone who is not guilty of the same behavior as Mark, please take one
> step forward.
>
> Anyone?

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:00:06 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] No lights > free advice
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Don't trip.
Rob "I must just be jealous - Even with good tires my car couldn't reach 80MPH
on a gravel shoulder" MacCormick

Easton Trevor A wrote:

> I moved
>
> Trevor "I'm walking backwards" Easton
> -
>
> No-one moves......................................
>
> Bill Adams wrote:
>
> > Everyone who is not guilty of the same behavior as Mark, please take one
> > step forward.
> >
> > Anyone?
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
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Message: 18
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof (m)arine carpet
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:04:23 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

you write: >>>soggy carpet with half rotten padding
> > underneath.
> > The carpet was waterproof <<<

in my experience 'waterproofing' and Land Rovers do not go together.
 What happens is, the water still gets in but the 'waterproofing' stops it
getting out so rust and/or rot is the result.

Best Cheers

Frank
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:54:19 -0500
From: asfco <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] seat belt reel locked
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have genuine inertia reel seat belts the reels are locked and will not
release.  According to the code on the side they should release at a 90
degree angle, they will not budge. Any hints??
Rgds
Steve Bradke '68 lla 88

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Message: 20
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] seat belt reel locked
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:01:46 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

My inertia reel belts are operated by a ball that rests in a cup shaped
depression. When the belt assembly is subject to any acceleration the ball
rolls up the cup and jams a spinning disc. If the disk is not free to spin
the belts won't extend. It could be corrosion or some other muck blocking
the disc or the ball isn't falling back into the cup. If you hold the belts
at an angle then the disc will certainly be jammed by the ball. Try blowing
out the innards and tapping the assembly to free the mechanism.

-----Original Message-----
From: asfco [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] seat belt reel locked

I have genuine inertia reel seat belts the reels are locked and will not
release.  According to the code on the side they should release at a 90
degree angle, they will not budge. Any hints??
Rgds
Steve Bradke '68 lla 88
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Message: 21
From: "Stude, Herman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] rear diff removal and hub seals
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:14:25 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

So things are progressing nicely, what is the collective wisdom on the use
of Hylomar on the gaskets for the diff housing to the axle housing, and the
drive flanges to the hubs.  None, one side, which side, both sides.  Arthur
at RN says both sides on the diff to the axle, but I forgot to ask about the
hub to the drive flange.  I use this stuff sparingly, right?  Just a little
bead?

Thanks,

Herman Stude
'73 NAS SIII 88
Topless in Texas

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Message: 22
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof arine carpet
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:41:04 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Pete, what do you mean next summer? Come to Winter Romp, weekend of Feb.
> 15th I believe. When you get back out west afterwards you'll think you're
in
> Hawaii again ;-)

hahahaha

Thin that is too far to drive at this point.  Unless I tow with the GMC.
Lower end is making more noise and oil pressure has droped a few more psi
(25 at idle).  So some time next month I am going to pull and rebuild the
bottom end.  I think.  Still can't decide if I wouldn't rather have a 200tdi
or a gm 4.3 v6 under the hood.

Pete

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Message: 23
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:51:47 -0800
Subject: [lro] waterproof (m)arine carpetting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill:  May the Lord have mercy upon your soul.  Amen.

Pink Shag?  I know you are kidding.  I hope you are kidding.  Are you
kidding?

Simon

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Message: 24
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:07:27 -0800
Subject: [lro] Intermittent electrical fault help needed
Reply-To: [email-masked]

SIII 109SW  With a pretty stock electrical system of about ten years of age
with the easily visible wiring and connections in pretty good apparent
shape.  Over the last few months I've had a problem with the
ignition/electrical system as follows.  When the problem first started, it
would happen only with serious wetness in the engine bay.  Engine would
start and run fine, but when I would switch on teh wipers or headlights, the
charge light would come on and engine died.  After a quick look under the
hood to make sure nothing was on fire, I jumped in to try to start the rig
up and move it out of the street where it had died as I was backing out the
driveway.  Started right up.  Did the same to me as I experimented a little
later that same day.  then, once things dried out (I'd washed the underside
and assumed I got some water somewhere Bad), the problem didn't happen
again.  Then the other day, months after the first incident, it happened
again, this time after going through a large puddle on a logging road.
Charge light came on and engine died.  Rig would not start after ward.
Waited a few minutes and it started and ran fine.  Then a few days later, in
dry conditions with headlights on, charge light came on, engine died.
Pulled over, and restarted just fine.  Sunday I took apart and cleaned all
teh connections at the solenoid.  They were kind of dirty.  Sanded them
clean. all wires to from solenoid are visually ok as far as I can see them.
Checked the battery and ground cables and all are fine. No problems since,
but I've driven the rig very little since Sunday.   Any theories/pointers on
things to look for would be very much appreciated.  I hate electrics and in
fact don't (yet)  have a multi-meter (and I'd have to learn how to use it).
Sorry this is long, but I'd like to muddle through this myself and avoid
paying someone to fix it as I'm saving my pennies for an engine conversion.

Simon (in digest mode)

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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:56:28 -0500
From: asfco <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Seat belt reels fixed
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Seems that all that was needed was the gentle touch of a woman..SWMBO
said give me that thing a gentle pull and they worked fine seems I was
pulling with too much force.
Too strong for my own good sometimes
Rgds
Steve Bradke '68 lla 88

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Message: 26
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:21:36 -0500
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Overdrive bearings
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In the past (sometime in the last seven years) I have posted bearing
lists on the digest, both for all Land Rover bearings and for overdrives.
 Unfortunately I am not disciplined at filing this information since I
have a basic understanding iof bearing types, sizes etc and can look it
up in one of several catalogues that I possess, this is usually quicker
than looking for a list..

   All of the needle bearings and thrust washers in the overdrive are
metric sizes and can be sourced from a manufacturer called INA, they can
be found on the web. (there are probaly several others too)  Motion
Industries on the web also has extensive bearing catalogues. 
It is simply a matter of measuring the bearing or thrust washers and
looking through the catalogue to find the appropriate reference number. 
These can then be sourced from a specialist bearing supplier at
significantly lower prices than offered by Rover dealers.
 Alternatively, there is sure to be one of the listers out there who
files this type of information for possible use someday, who is readily
able to make a few mouse clicks and re post the information.  I am
surprised that it did not find it's way onto the OVLR site.

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:40:02 -0500
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Intermittent electrical fault help needed
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You prolly nailed it when you cleaned and checked your grounds.
-- 
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 28
From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Overdrive bearings
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:55:59 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>  Alternatively, there is sure to be one of the listers out there who
> files this type of information for possible use someday, who is readily
> able to make a few mouse clicks and re post the information.  I am
> surprised that it did not find it's way onto the OVLR site.
> 

Does anyone have this information?

Peter Rosvall
Wolfville, Nova Scotia

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Message: 29
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:53 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Overdrive bearings
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 05:55 PM 11/13/01, Peter and Bill wrote:

> >  Alternatively, there is sure to be one of the listers out there who
> > files this type of information for possible use someday, who is readily
> > able to make a few mouse clicks and re post the information.  I am
> > surprised that it did not find it's way onto the OVLR site.
> >
>
>Does anyone have this information?
>
>Peter Rosvall

Not yet...

Although this doesn't give the sizes and isn't of much help, a quick search 
on google using:

"Limey in exile" overdrive bearings

brought the included messages up from 1997. I found a reference to the 
bearing list being sent in 1997 but did not locate the actual message. 
<<<Al did you do that bulk order?>>> I tend to hit the *cached* version 
that google finds instead of the actual link since it highlights the 
information I'm searching for in the oh so long digests.

The LRO archives are out there to search if the query is refined enough. I 
have my favorite listers to search for good information : )

Once the information is located, sending it off to Dixon 
([email-masked]) would eventually insure it's inclusion in the FAQ 
(www.lrfaq.org) for future reference for us all.

Lori in PA

~~~~~~~~~~~>>>

http://www.fourfold.org/RoverWeb/lro/Year-1997/970105.html
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:59:31 -0500
Subject: Overdrive bearings

 >From: Alan_Richer/CAM/[email-masked]

 >I am going to do a bulk buy of these damned bearings for overdrives -
 >there's got to be a cheaper source than RN...

   It is not necessary to go to superwinch for the bearings for the
overdrives, or the Rover store for that matter.
  The bearings, predominantly  needle rollers can be obtained from a decent
bearing shop.
  They are all METRIC, I suggest you obtain a copy of the catalogue from the
INA bearing company, all the bearings can be found in there with a bit of
comparison measuring, ( I know from first hand experience, I have done it,
unfortunately I lost the catalogue and the list I made during my move to the
US, ) it is a significantly cheaper method of getting the bearings than from
the end user, particularly if you can get some trade discount.
  If you buy the parts from Rover they will cost you more than thje overdrive
is worth.

The oil seals can also be acquired in a similar manner.

  Regards Bill Leacock  Limey in exile

http://www.fourfold.org/RoverWeb/lro/Year-1995/950131.html
Date: 31 Jan 95 06:16:46 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Overdrives

The mesh between the overdrive gear and the intermediate transfer gear, 
although
spiral bevel, often is the source of whine, I have used an overdrive on one
gearbox that was noisy and fitted it too another when it was quiet. Had similar
problems with the rear mainshaft gear replacement when removing overdrives too.

  The mainshaft end rotaates in a needle roller bearing in a standard gearbox,
when an overdrive is fitted the mainshaft is fixed to the center shaft of the
overdrive and does not rotate inside this shaft, the molybdenum disulphide that
is used in this area is to limit the effects of fretting and corrosion. The
connected mainshaft and overdrive centre shaft are locked together
  When in   overdrive the outer overdrive shaft rotates around the inner shaft
and mainshaft to give the speed increase, this shaft is supported on the 
outside
at the front by a large ball bearing and various needle roller bearings
internally, all lubricated by the overdrive oil supply.
  The inner shaft runs on a needle roller bearing,  which is fitted to the rear
of the mainshaft and lubricated by the transfer box hypiod oil, and on some
internal needle roller bearings lubricated by the overdrive oil ( if there is
any!!)
  The initial charge of Moly on the bearing lubricates it for the brief period
until the transfer box oil is fed to the bearings, therafter it will be washed
off by the oil. Oil does not circulate on the connection splines and it is
beneficial for this area to be coated with anti sieze compound prior to 
assembly
  When out of overdrive the shafts re locked together and there is no relative
internal rotation, again another good reason for the anti sieze or anti 
scuffing
paste.
  Regards     Bill Leacock      Limey in exile.

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Message: 30
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:46:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] waterproof (m)arine carpetting
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Simon,
rest easy.  No shag.  No pink shag.  It's a nice mauve.

bill

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:51:47 -0800 "Simon J. Harding"
<[email-masked]> writes:
> 
> Bill:  May the Lord have mercy upon your soul.  Amen.
> 
> Pink Shag?  I know you are kidding.  I hope you are kidding.  Are 
> you
> kidding?
> 
> Simon
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Message: 31
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] No lights > free advice
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:35:25 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Move? I ran backwards. Can you still hear me from way back here? ;-)

Niall Forbes - known to venture out unprepared once or twice ;-)
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
--author unknown

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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:58:51 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin.com
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] free advice > full refund
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rob MacCormick wrote:

> As for tires......I love the BFG AT's we have on my wife's car.

AT's are the greatest. Just put them on the 110 and their handling as
opposed to General SAG's is phenomenal. They are also reputed to give up
to 130000kms on a set.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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