Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #149 - 13 msgs

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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 03:05:02 -0500 (EST)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: new RR (David G. Russell)
   2. heat (David G. Russell)
   3. 109 SW rear seat question (Simon J. Harding)
   4. Re: heat (Keith Tanner)
   5. Disco seats in a series ([email-masked])
   6. Re: Disco seats in a series (Gerald)
   7. Re: 109 SW rear seat question (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   8. Re: Gearbox/transfer case oil mixing (Frank Elson)
   9. Re: Front axle gaskets (William J. Rice)
  10. Re: new Range Rover (RON WARD)
  11. Reassembling axles (brodie Pedersen)
  12. Priceless :-) (Par Leijonhufvud)
  13. Re: Front axle gaskets (Tim Czajka)

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Message: 1
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:13:23 -0500
Subject: [lro] Re: new RR
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'll second that.

My first thought, from the front at least, was that it looks like a bigger
version of the new "Mini".

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan J. Richer" <[email-masked]>
> --- Frank Elson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > mind you, having seen it I wouldn't bother, don't
> > look much to me...
>
> Fugly damn thing - trying hard to be a Lincoln

-David, now with a "street legal" 109

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Message: 2
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:13:20 -0500
Subject: [lro] heat
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Does anyone know of a web resource that diagrams the general installation of
a Smith's heater? It's not in the Green Bible and now that my 109 is on the
road, I'm thinkin' I may want something that resembles heat. I have the
parts.

-David

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Message: 3
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:39:54 -0800
Subject: [lro] 109 SW rear seat question
Reply-To: [email-masked]

TerriAnn:  I have a 109 SW SIII that was brought over from England in 1990
as opposed to being a North America market import.  The seat setup I have is
three independent forward facing seats (though the middle seat can only be
folded completely forward if the two side seats are both folded forward
beforehand).  When I stripped the interior, I needed some bits and ended up
contacting RN.  they faxed me a sheet that contains the usual exploded
diagram of the seats with parts, etc.  Unfortunately, I just yesterday took
that sheet home and here I am at the office!  In any even I believe the
sheet itself and also RN referred to this set up as the "County"  interior
for a 109.  First I'd heard of it.  If you'd like to see that sheet, let me
know and I'll bring iot in tomorrow.  The other 109 SWs I've seen have all
had a single bench seat, not independent seats like my rover has.  But I
could be wrong.  Lord knows I have been before.  Hope this helped.

Simon

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:37:20 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] heat
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I don't know the specifics, but there's a scan of how to install a Kodiak 
here. It might help:

http://www.lrfaq.org/Series/FAQ.S.options.html

Keith

At 15:13 11/8/01, you wrote:

>Does anyone know of a web resource that diagrams the general installation of
>a Smith's heater? It's not in the Green Bible and now that my 109 is on the
>road, I'm thinkin' I may want something that resembles heat. I have the
>parts.
>
>-David
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Message: 5
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:12:08 EST
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Disco seats in a series
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Anyone seen or put seats from a discovery into a series truck?

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Message: 6
From: Gerald <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Disco seats in a series
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:37:53 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Someone who used to live near Boston and moved last year (to Pittsburgh?)
had them. Even the power worked. Had to make some alterations to the
bulkhead behind the seats.

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:12:08 EST, you wrote:

>
>Anyone seen or put seats from a discovery into a series truck?

--
Gerald
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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [lro] 109 SW rear seat question
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 01 16:09:43 -0800
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO list" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Simon, thanks for your input.  I was adding elephant hide gray middle 
seats and interior door panels for 109 stationwagons to the new British 
Pacific catalogue and got confused looking at the parts books.  I only 
had part numbers for the individual seat pads & cushions but it looked 
like there was a bench seat involved too.

As it turns out, only the individual forward facing middle seats are 
availible in elephant hide gray.  The bench seat is NLA in gray.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
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http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

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Message: 8
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Gearbox/transfer case oil mixing
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:19:27 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

keep on topping the gearbox up, and draining the transfer box off.
 Gearbox minus oil makes horrible noises and stops working ... well mine
did!
Best Cheers

Frank
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     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Message: 9
To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:21:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] Front axle gaskets
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Tim, Though I've not undone my swivel balls from the axle housings, I've
used hylomar/silicone/Right STuff everywhere else you're wondering about
and Mrs. M. is still on the road.  I think the paper/goop distinction's
only critical if the gasket serves as a shim (in which case its thickness
is critical and not duplicatable w/ stuff in a tube) , which I can't
think of it doing anywhere on a LR.

bill

On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:12:51 -0700 "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
writes:
> 
> Well I am slowly assembling my front axle.  There are
> several areas where I am wondering if I should use the
> stock paper gaskets or perhaps just hylomar.  Mainly I
> am referring to where the swivel balls mount to the axle
> housing and where the locking hubs mount to the hub.
> Any thoughts?  I just want to make sure of a good seal
> because this thing better stay together for a while.
> 
> Tim Czajka
> 1972 Series III 88
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 19:51:55 -0500
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] new Range Rover
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Nobody, and I mean nobody, could have topped the speed and accuracy with which my Mom could navigate the teller line at the bank.  If you don't count the time in 1974 when she accidentally backed over and killed our pet Schnauzer who was sleeping behind the back tire of the Buick, she is a flawless driver.

Ron "proud son of a great lady whose birthday was Tuesday" Ward

>>> [email-masked] 11/08/01 16:42 PM >>>

We had a big Oldsmobile that I swear my mom could take up Moab they way she
drove it.  She could parallel park that thing like no ones business.

Jeff

on 11/8/01 12:27 PM, RON WARD at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> Buick Roadmaster Stationwagon.
> 
>>>> [email-masked] 11/08/01 03:00PM >>>
> 
> SUV is "Sport Utility Van".
> 
> Makes me miss the old station wagons I grew up with.  Sitting in the
> rearward facing back seat with my brother playing "tail gunner"...
> 
> Jeff
> on 11/8/01 11:07 AM, RON WARD at [email-masked] wrote:
> 
>> 
>> No kidding.  I was having lunch yesterday with a friend who runs a small
>> import car lot here in town.  He's a great mechanic and knows a thing or two
>> about Land Rovers, but is not a certified technician.  Anyway, he gets a few
>> Disco 1's on the lot from time to time and the rare 4.0 or 4.6 from the
>> auctions up in Atlanta and Birmingham.  I always make comments like "new
>> springs, ARB, winch and rip off those wimpy  running boards and you have a
>> nice rig there."  His reply is always the same "no way man, if I could lower
>> it and add a sliding side door I could sell a dozen a day."
>> 
>> Ron W.
>> 
>>>>> [email-masked] 11/08/01 01:24PM >>>
>> 
>> Unfortunately, reality suggests "Mall Crawler"...
>> 
>> No offense taken.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> on 11/8/01 10:02 AM, RON WARD at [email-masked] wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Oops, did I say that wrong?  No offense intended Jeff, just commenting on
>>> the
>>> article you read is all...
>>> 
>>> I read the same type of comment in an article recently and my thought was
>>> the
>>> marketing folks need to chose a target and stick with it, either high end
>>> luxury mall crawlers or camel trophy.
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>>>>> [email-masked] 11/08/01 11:46AM >>>
>>> 
>>> Just regurgitating what I read in the article...
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> on 11/8/01 8:03 AM, RON WARD at [email-masked] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff added... "LR needed to revise itself to better compete with BMW,
>>>> Mercedes, Lexus, Acura, etc." from something he'd read.
>>>> 
>>>> LR isn't competing with those guys if what they show in recent tv ads is
>>>> any
>>>> indication of what the marque is all about....
>>>> 
>>>> Ron Ward
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> [email-masked] 11/08/01 10:17AM >>>
>>>> 
>>>> Don't like the look.  Also a bit confused (how unusual...).  One line of
>>>> text suggests that solid axles are gone.  Admittedly, I don't follow much
>>>> new car development (especially for cars that I have no desire to spend
>>>> that
>>>> kind of money on) so I don't know if that's confirmed or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, if the RRIII has gone to independent suspension, it follows that
>>>> the
>>>> next Discovery will follow suit.  I did recently read an article that
>>>> stated
>>>> that only future specialty LR vehicles would have solid axles as LR needed
>>>> to revise itself to better compete with BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Acura, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like LR is going from "The Best 4x4xFar" to "The Best 4x4xMarketing
>>>> Segment".
>>>> 
>>>> Such is life.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> on 11/8/01 6:54 AM, Alan J. Richer at [email-masked] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- Frank Elson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> mind you, having seen it I wouldn't bother, don't
>>>>>> look much to me...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fugly damn thing - trying hard to be a Lincoln
>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>> 
>>>>> LR has wandered so far off the path it's ludicrous.
>>>>> How much would those fancy-arsed headlights cost to
>>>>> replace if caught by a tree branch?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love my Series - I love my Classic Rangie...repeat
>>>>> after me.....8)
>>>>> 
>>>>> ajr
>>>>> 
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 22:12:04 -0500 (EST)
From: brodie Pedersen <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Reassembling axles
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I used Hylomar and the paper gaskets together.This 
seemed to work very well. Truck is not up and running
yet so I can't report any leaks. If you are looking
for Hylomar, Chris at Wise Owl should be ale to help
you out

Brodie

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1971 Land Rover Lightweight
1968 Norton Manxman 
1961 Triumph TR3A
1981 AMC Eagle SW
1987 VW Fox Wagon

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:15:24 +0100
From: Par Leijonhufvud <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Priceless :-)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rope:                             SKR 30 per meter
Shackles:                         SKR 20 each
Pulling a brand new Volvo XC
out of the ditch with your 30
year old SIII:                    Priceless

In other words we had the years first snow in Stockholm, and as every
year the Land Rover behaved perfectly.

The new tires appeared to be ok, but they question is: shall I stud them
(they are prepared for it, with little holes all over), or buy a set of
chains. Anyone with experience driving with chains? Advice? 

/Par

-- 
Par Leijonhufvud                                      [email-masked]
There are so many clues flying over his head that he's almost buried in their
droppings.  
		-- Lionel Lauer 

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Message: 13
From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 23:00:52 -0700
Subject: [lro] Re: Front axle gaskets
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks for the gasket replies.  Digging through the
shed I found some of the paper gaskets ordered last
year - although not in the best of shape.  But based
on the replies looks like straight sealer has worked
well as an option so I can get this thing back
together.

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88

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