Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #141 - 23 msgs

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   1. Re: Wheel cylinder question ([email-masked])
   2. RE: How to Send $$ to UK (Tackley, John)
   3. Re: Waste Oil Heater? (N Forbes)
   4. RE:How's Frank (Easton Trevor A)
   5. John Cranfield Update, Thursday (Peter & Julie Rosvall)
   6. RE: brake question pt 2.... (Easton Trevor A)
   7. RE: How to Send $$ to UK (richer alan)
   8. RE: The Stent Brothers (Easton Trevor A)
   9. Re: RE: The Stent Brothers (richer alan)
  10. Re: I don't need another fire (RON WARD)
  11. RE: RE: The Stent Brothers (Easton Trevor A)
  12. Re: brake question pt 2.... (Jeff Bieler)
  13. Re: Wheel cylinder question (Jeff Bieler)
  14. Useless Rover trivia and another (?) claim to fame. (Easton Trevor A)
  15. RE: RE: The Stent Brothers (richer alan)
  16. RE: RE: The Stent Brothers (Easton Trevor A)
  17. Re: Useless Rover trivia and another (?) claim to fame. (N Forbes)
  18. Re: How to Send $$ to UK (Frank Elson)
  19. Re: RE:How's Frank (Frank Elson)
  20. Re: RE: The Stent Brothers (Frank Elson)
  21. Smith's 'upgrade' (A. P. (Sandy) Grice)
  22. Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #140 - 39 msgs (David G. Russell)
  23. Re: Heater Redux (Stephen West-Fisher)

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Message: 1
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 07:13:47 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Wheel cylinder question
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jeff,

If you need to look at something for inspiration, let me know as my SIIA is
sitting not far from you in West Hollywood and you are welcome to go look.

Ian Kelly (Terni, Umbria, Italy)
1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"

>Just got new Lucas wheel cylinders to replace the 3 seized ones on my truck.

After triple checking the part #'s, I am confused on which side the
cylinders go on.

According to the part #'s and the boxes the parts came in, #243297 is a Left
Front cylinder and #243296 is a Right Front cylinder.  The wheel cylinders
(apparently due to the lack of markings not Lucas) on the truck now have the
brake pipe inlets facing forward.  If I put the new parts on per the box #'s
on them, the inlet pipes will be at the rear of the wheel.

Which is correct?

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Message: 2
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:05:27 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Happy first anniver-stent-ary to the mighty pen wielding "Strange One"...;o)

JT/ric

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Elson [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK

Steve writes: >>>This is how I will handle the transaction  makes sense..BTW
How are you
> feeling hope all is well with you<<<

I'm fine, thanks for asking. However as today is 12 months to the day since
my last bit of bother both Marjorie and I have admitted to feeling a bit
strange...
there are those, of course, who will say that I am more than a bit
strange...

Best Cheers

Frank
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Message: 3
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Waste Oil Heater?
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:11:01 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>From: "Rich Williams II" <[email-masked]>

>HA! Joke's on me
>
>Well I guess you all know where I am taking my wife this evening.
>
>Rich

Not if she got an email about waste oil you're not ;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 4
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:12:56 -0500 
Subject: [lro] RE:How's Frank
Reply-To: [email-masked]

there are those, of course, who will say that I am more than a bit
strange...

Best Cheers

Frank
   
That's a roger.
They say the same about me. Must be the metalwork that causes it.

Trevor "the other stent brother" Easton

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Message: 5
From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <[email-masked]>
To: "Delrc@Topica. Com" <[email-masked]>, "uk-lro"
  <[email-masked]>, "LRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:15:32 -0400
Subject: [lro] John Cranfield Update, Thursday
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I talked to John Cranfield's sister Jennie yesterday.  They are back home in
Nova Scotia, exhausted, but happy to be in familiar surroundings.  She asked
that everyone please have patience and wait until John is ready to take
phone calls and visitors, it is still too soon, she will let me know when
that time arrives.

Jennie and I will be talking once a day and I'll be able to give her
messages and get information about how John is doing.

As it stands right now, John is obviously tired from his trip home.  He will
be seeing doctors early Thursday, they will decide at that time if he gets
to stay at home or if he needs to be admitted to hospital.  Exploratory
surgery on Sunday night in Maine indicated that the eye had about a 20%
chance.

I guess that's it for now.  Jennie wants everyone to know how much your
thoughts, prayers and offers to help mean to both she and John.  She also
appreciates that you continue to respect the need for quiet in John's life
right at the moment.  If anyone has questions, wants to pass on personal
messages, offer help or get John's postal address, please touch base with
me.

Julie

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Message: 6
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] brake question pt 2....
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:16:19 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

if it's pulling right, the right side brakes are working better, or engaging
first.  The left side is thus moving faster, so it forces the vehicle to
turn right.  If it's constantly, for the whole ofthe braking, pulling,
suspect oil on the shoes, or a stuck wheel cylinder, or a restrictive flex
hose.  IF it only pulls wehn you stgart tor brake, and then goes straight,
it's liely a misadjusted wheel, or a sticky wheel cylinder.

Also if the steering wheel pulls to the right it's a front brake if the
whole vehicle feels like it's slewing it's a rear brake.

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:18:42 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Happy first anniver-stent-ary to the mighty pen
> wielding "Strange One"...;o)
> 

Yes, happy rebirthday to our favorite Womble...

                ajr

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Message: 8
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:29:29 -0500 
Subject: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Do we now rename this All Stents Day?

It's still a mystery to everyone how I was born on All Saint's Day

Trevor 

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:41:51 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Do we now rename this All Stents Day?

Dunno - I just don't have the heart to rename it.

          aj"sorry....couldn't resist....."r

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 08:42:34 -0500
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] I don't need another fire
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Chris,

Rick replaced his with a NAPA part.  I think it was rated at 7 psi (?) and was a "pusher" pump that mounted close to the tank along the frame rail.

Ron Ward

>>> [email-masked] 10/30/01 02:48PM >>>

Is there a widely available aftermarket fuel pump for
a 2.25 Petrol?  Mine is leaking onto the crankcase
(gushing actually) and this truck has already been on
fire once this year.

thanks!
Chris

'71 IIA 88"
'99 DII
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Message: 11
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:03:14 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I of course have an arterior motive (Groan)

We'll miss Cranfield's input here. Maybe the Rosvall's can pass this on and
get John's reply for us.

Trevor

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 06:42:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] brake question pt 2....
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks for both replies.  That was the logic I was working under, but wanted
to hear from the voices of experience before I start mucking about today.
This was my first "brake job" on any vehicle period.

Once I get the pads sorted, I confident I'll be in good shape.  The brakes
seem very strong, just not adjusted properly.

Jeff

on 11/1/01 5:16 AM, Easton Trevor A at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> if it's pulling right, the right side brakes are working better, or engaging
> first.  The left side is thus moving faster, so it forces the vehicle to
> turn right.  If it's constantly, for the whole ofthe braking, pulling,
> suspect oil on the shoes, or a stuck wheel cylinder, or a restrictive flex
> hose.  IF it only pulls wehn you stgart tor brake, and then goes straight,
> it's liely a misadjusted wheel, or a sticky wheel cylinder.
> 
> 
> Also if the steering wheel pulls to the right it's a front brake if the
> whole vehicle feels like it's slewing it's a rear brake.
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 06:45:34 -0800
Subject: Re: [lro] Wheel cylinder question
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

When do you and the Rover next share the same zip code?

I could use the inspiration.  On top of the brakes, I just had to return the
Rochester I bought to get the accelerator pump fixed.  It's sticking which
makes things interesting when the throttle won't back down after you take
your foot off the gas.  Should have it sorted and returned by the first part
of next week.  In the meantime, it's back to the leaky Solex.

Jeff

on 11/1/01 4:13 AM, [email-masked] at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> Jeff,
> 
> If you need to look at something for inspiration, let me know as my SIIA is
> sitting not far from you in West Hollywood and you are welcome to go look.
> 
> Ian Kelly (Terni, Umbria, Italy)
> 1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
> "what kind of bad geographical planning is this"
> 
> 
>> Just got new Lucas wheel cylinders to replace the 3 seized ones on my truck.
> 
> After triple checking the part #'s, I am confused on which side the
> cylinders go on.
> 
> According to the part #'s and the boxes the parts came in, #243297 is a Left
> Front cylinder and #243296 is a Right Front cylinder.  The wheel cylinders
> (apparently due to the lack of markings not Lucas) on the truck now have the
> brake pipe inlets facing forward.  If I put the new parts on per the box #'s
> on them, the inlet pipes will be at the rear of the wheel.
> 
> Which is correct?
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]'"
  <[email-masked]>, "Domenic Checchia
  [[email-masked]] (E-mail)"
  <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:41:42 -0500 
Subject: [lro] Useless Rover trivia and another (?) claim to fame.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Land Rover builds its three millionth vehicle

 1 October 2001 - the three millionth Land Rover was driven off the
production line, some 53
years after the first vehicle was made at the company's Lode Lane plant in
Solihull.

The historic vehicle - appropriately a US-spec Freelander in striking Monte
Carlo Blue - was driven
off the line by singer Ronan Keating. Since 1948, Land Rover has employed
many thousands of
 people in its plant in the West Midlands.  The North American launch of the
Freelander is part of the
 company's continuing expansion into new and existing markets. Land Rover
exports around 77 per
cent of its total production to more than 140 countries, and in the last
five years exports have more
 than doubled to #2.48 billion.

For the record, the 3,000,000th Land Rover's VIN is: SALNY22222A357498.  

On October 1st, infamous Land Rover owner and punster Trevor Easton took his
first Freelander Test Drive at Land Rover Metro West, Toronto

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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:15:00 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I of course have an arterior motive (Groan)

We know - otherwise we could consider it laboring in vein....

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Message: 16
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:06:17 -0500 
Reply-To: [email-masked]

We know - otherwise we could consider it laboring in vein....

oh my what a card I am.* (this is getting silly again ;-))

*explanation available at
http://library.thinkquest.org/25896/sub_heart/structure.htm

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Message: 17
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Useless Rover trivia and another (?) claim to fame.
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:32:24 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I think someone tampered with that article ;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 18
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:59:41 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

and I thought I was strange...

thank you, I think...
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK

>
> Happy first anniver-stent-ary to the mighty pen wielding "Strange
One"...;o)
>
> JT/ric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Elson [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:25 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [lro] How to Send $$ to UK
>
>
>
> Steve writes: >>>This is how I will handle the transaction  makes
sense..BTW
> How are you
> > feeling hope all is well with you<<<
>
> I'm fine, thanks for asking. However as today is 12 months to the day
since
> my last bit of bother both Marjorie and I have admitted to feeling a bit
> strange...
> there are those, of course, who will say that I am more than a bit
> strange...
>
> Best Cheers
>
> Frank
>     +--+--+--+
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Message: 19
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] RE:How's Frank
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 20:09:37 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

but it didn't show up on the security at Dulles...
mind you I had quite an interesting discussion with the Indian (presumably
Hindu) guy who wanted to know what I used the knife part of my KFS set for.
 The armed National Guardsman nearly wet himself laughing when I mimed
eating with a knife and fork!

btw, did I mail my thanks to the list members I met at MAR? suffered from
jet-lag for a goodly few days and not sure what I did or didn't do for a
while...
 If I didn't then thanks all for making me feel right at home (ok, so having
so many Land Rovers around helped), Mr Tackley you make a mean cup of
morning coffee, Sandy and Ray Burton pour a good glass of the water of life
and Sandy learned v. quickly how to make a good hot-toddy. Spenny nearly
convinced me that there are fish other than Trout in the world but, as we
didn't catch any the jury is still out...Nate and I had some good chats re:
popular music beat combos, Trevor surprised me by being English and Mr
Leacock hasn't lost any of his Yorkshire accent - I wonder you lot can
understand a word he says, sithee.
 For the rest you'll have to read a certain grown up comic-book...

Sandy, I need those results.
Best Cheers

Frank
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     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Easton Trevor A" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: [lro] RE:How's Frank

>
> there are those, of course, who will say that I am more than a bit
> strange...
>
> Best Cheers
>
> Frank
>
> That's a roger.
> They say the same about me. Must be the metalwork that causes it.
>
> Trevor "the other stent brother" Easton
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Message: 20
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 20:12:26 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

er.. Trevor, right, well, y'see, there was this bird, y'see, then there was
this bee and... well, er...
(you'd think he'd have been told by now)

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
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     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Easton Trevor A" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: [lro] RE: The Stent Brothers

>
> Do we now rename this All Stents Day?
>
> It's still a mystery to everyone how I was born on All Saint's Day
>
> Trevor
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:12:23 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Smith's 'upgrade'
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]> wrote:

>My commuter car failed (slave cylinder on clutch) the other day so I was
>"forced" to drive the dormobile to work for a couple of days.....It has
>a Smiths heater and I know these units are held by some to put out
>little heat.....I am one of these people. Is there something I can do to
>improve the performance of the unit?

You can try lubing the motor - which I did for the first time in 30 years
not too long ago.  Used one of those 'miracle' spray-lubes (Tri-Flow).  The
squirrel cage end is easy to lubricate, but you'l have to drill a tiny hole
in the 'dome' of the closed end to lubricate the sintered bronze bearing
there.  First time I powered it up, it blew out hunks of dust and debris
from the ducts.  I had forgotten it had such capabilities.... ;-)

Cheers

	*-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----*
	|                 A. P. "Sandy" Grice                  |
	|    The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd    |
	|     1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
	*------------------------------------------------------*

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Message: 22
Date: Thu,  1 Nov 2001 18:09:35 -0500
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #140 - 39 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

First, thanks for all the feedback on propane v. kerosene.

There are two reasons why a waste oil heater is not feasible:

1. In NH, it's illegal

2. Regardless of what you read, they're really dirty. I spoke to an Air
Quality Specialist who is also a friend and not a hard-core tree-hugger.
She let me know that not only will much of the pollution go right out
the exhaust and fall to the ground, the air quality inside will suffer.

-David Russell

On 11/1/01 at 3:11 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:25:15 -0800
> To: [email-masked]
> From: Chris <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [lro] Waste Oil Heater?
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> 
> What about those waste oil heaters I see plans for on the web? You
> could burn up all that old 20W50 and 90W!
> 
> Chris

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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:14:03 -0500
From: Stephen West-Fisher <[email-masked]>
Organization: Coastal Data Systems
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Peter Ogilvie wrote:

> 
> Three years on a boat and nearly 10 years using alternate energy in our 
> house got me real familiar with Kerosene.  Maybe the fumes went to my 
> head but I kind of like the smell of kerosene. 

I was almost aftraid to say it, but when I was a teenager I had a job as 
a truck mechanic at a concrete company. Had a thing going on with a 
secretary there, who used to come visit me in the one stall garage. The 
only heaters were the kerosene space heater/blower things in the shop. 
The smell of kerosene makes me think of something else.....

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