Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #137 - 52 msgs

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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:17:04 -0500 (EST)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Carb Id (apsilon)
   2. Re: Carb Id (apsilon)
   3. Re: Using a hilift on a series (apsilon)
   4. Re: Re: The Italian Job (was LROI magazine) ([email-masked])
   5. Re: Dico lighting ([email-masked])
   6. Dico lighting (Travis Garrett)
   7. Re: Using a hilift on a series (David G. Russell)
   8. RE:John Cranfield and Hilift (Easton Trevor A)
   9. Heater Redux (David G. Russell)
  10. Re: Heater Redux (Jim Hall)
  11. Re: Heater Redux (richer alan)
  12. Stromberg carb (Bob & Sue Bernard)
  13. Re: RE:John Cranfield and Hilift (Jim Hall)
  14. RE: Heater Redux (Easton Trevor A)
  15. Re: Stromberg carb (richer alan)
  16. Hilift jack handle retainers (Hope Peter)
  17. RE: Hilift jack handle retainers (Easton Trevor A)
  18. Re: Heater Redux (Kirk Hillman)
  19. Re: Heater Redux (richer alan)
  20. Re: Heater Redux (David Scheidt)
  21. RE: Heater Redux (Easton Trevor A)
  22. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (RON WARD)
  23. Re: Heater Redux (Hope Peter)
  24. Re: Heater Redux (David Scheidt)
  25. Re: Dico lighting (Tate Crumbley)
  26. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (N Forbes)
  27. Re: Heater Redux (N Forbes)
  28. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (Hope Peter)
  29. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (Keith Tanner)
  30. RE: Carb Id (Sergi, Michael)
  31. Noise and worry (Garrick Olsen)
  32. Re: Noise and worry (richer alan)
  33. Re: Heater Redux (Rob MacCormick)
  34. RE: Heater Redux (Sergi, Michael)
  35. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (David Scheidt)
  36. Stromberg BXOV-1 (richer alan)
  37. Re: Heater Redux (Luca Ingianni)
  38. Off Topic Question (Carl Kinkade)
  39. Re: Hilift jack handle retainers (RON WARD)
  40. Re: Heater Redux (Kirk Hillman)
  41. new key barrel question... (george kase)
  42. RE: Heater Redux (Easton Trevor A)
  43. RE: new key barrel question... (Easton Trevor A)
  44. Re: Heater Redux (Peter Ogilvie)
  45. Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #136 - 18 msgs (James Wheat)
  46. RE: Stromberg BXOV-1 (Sergi, Michael)
  47. Woo Hoo there's anthrax in my building! (Bill Adams)
  48. RE: new key barrel question... (David Scheidt)
  49. Re: Heater Redux (David Scheidt)
  50. Anthrax, Shock absorbers and the 67 V8 (Mark Pilkington)
  51. Re: Anthrax, Shock absorbers and the 67 V8 ([email-masked])
  52. Bio-terrorism No LRC (Easton Trevor A)

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Message: 1
From: "apsilon" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Carb Id
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:46:45 +1100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> be completely unique, I'd get rid of it.  Sure it may run ok, but I havent
> seen parts for a Stromberg in years and I doubt that you will  be able to
> put together a decent spares kit for trail side emergencies or rebuild it.

I'm sure I could find parts for it if I could discover the model. It's
running OK so I'm not in any hurry so I think I'll search for a Zenith. I
know I could get something new but it would cost more and I'm not sure that
I really want it. I'd rather stay original, at least for now.

Matt.

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Message: 2
From: "apsilon" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Carb Id
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:48:45 +1100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> I looked at the photos as well -- there's a Stromberg name plate on
> what appears to be the front corner.  Isn't the model number visible,
> or has the plate corroded to the point where it can't be read?

It's too far gone to read. All I can make out is the Stromberg name, what I
think is the word patent and then lower "designed by" with some kind of logo
underneath.

Thanks anyway,
Matt.

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Message: 3
From: "apsilon" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:56:22 +1100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> In a horrible coincidence, list regular and very good friend to countless
> people on the list and in the Rover community, John Cranfield was
seriously
> injured by a hi-lift this weekend while off-roading in Maine. I understand
> he was airlifted to hospital and underwent surgery and is safe but still
> badly injured. Apparently the jack slipped and hit him in the face,
knocking
> him unconcious and injuring his eye.

That is terrible news, I never like to hear about people getting hurt. I
hope everything turns out well.

I guess it proves that no matter how experienced or careful you are,
accidents can and will happen. Off roading certainly isn't the safest past
time around and it's unfortunate that it takes events like this to remind us
of that fact.

Matt.

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Message: 4
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:54:52 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: The Italian Job (was LROI magazine)
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Alex wrote:

>Cool! You must be talking about Pacciani Land Rover. I stopped in when I
>stayed in Badesse/Montereggioni for a week.
>Nice guys. Very patient with my absolutely abysmal Italian.
>You live in the 222/Chiantistrada area? Are you drunk on good wine nearly
>every night? And the cheese...

I did stop in at Pacciani's on the way back to Terni on Saturday but didn't 
have time to stay there long as I had to deliver the car back. There were 
several Series trucks in the yard, none of which are likely to move very 
soon. Didn't see any trucks on the road at all although Defenders are to be 
found and the Carabineri use them. As for the wine, yes please, another glass 
would be very nice thank you very much. Just the one, mind you. Where was I? 
Oh yes, I had been staying in Castelfalfi, mid-way between Siena, Pisa and 
Florence. I'm now back in Terni, in Umbria, which seems to be almost a 
completely Land Rover-free zone as far as I can tell. So its back to paper 
Land Rovering, planning all those jobs (the re-wiring, the oil seals 
etc.etc.) that I'm going to do when I get back to L.A....................

Ian Kelly (Terni, Umbria, Italy)
1970 Series IIA 88" (Los Angeles)
"what kind of bad geographical planning is this"

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Message: 5
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:10:12 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Dico lighting
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Scotty:

I am too old to Disco that was the boy asking the questions.

Dave Walls

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Message: 6
From: "Travis Garrett" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:33:15 -0600
Subject: [lro] Dico lighting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Dave,

I believe the Haynes Disco Repair manual covers replacing the gear indicator 
lights.  The a/c and air flow lights I am not certain about.  If you have 
the book I'd take a look.  If you don't shoot me an email and I'll help you 
out.

Travis
97 Disco
Arkansas

>I have several lights out in the interior off my 96 disco.  First, where 
>the gear shifter is, the first gear through park gear >lights are out.  I 
>have been sucessful in taking the trim out but after that i do >not know 
>how to get to the light bulbs that need replaced.
>Second, on the dash, the air condition system lighting is out ( this >is 
>the red and blue lights, the 1 2 3 4 lights, and the control for air >flow. 
>  How do you get back to these lights.

>Dave Walls
>Owner of:
>Series II 88
>96 Dico

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Message: 7
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:39:17 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Please forward my best wishes to John as well.

In a marathon spring swap I was using my Hi-Lift as an aid, not the primary
lift. However, it didn't take much for the vehicle to shift just enough for
the Hi Lift to come loose and go through the doorskin of an open rear door.
The hole is still there.

Scary.

> In a horrible coincidence, list regular and very good friend to countless
> people on the list and in the Rover community, John Cranfield was
seriously
> injured by a hi-lift this weekend while off-roading in Maine.

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Message: 8
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:58:22 -0500
Subject: [lro] RE:John Cranfield and Hilift
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Please forward my kind regards and wishes for a speedy recovery to John.

This is a painful reminder of the instability of the Hilift/Jackall. It's a
great tool with a long travel, but I have lost count off the number of times
I've had loads slip and panels scratched or dinged by the end of the jack.
Really we should always ensure that the load is suitably stabilized before
lifting. How many of you do that? The next best is to try and be sure that
if/when the load falls it will be in a known direction and there isn't
anyone in the line of fire.

Regards and be careful out there.
Trevor

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Message: 9
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:13:08 -0500
Subject: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A few weeks ago we had some discussion on garage heating (That's the Land
Rover content. If you hate math, delete this message now.).

It's getting chilly up here in NH and my little kerosene heater is good for
about 4 square feet so I decided to look into larger sources. I'm looking at
portable, 60,000 BTU or bigger, propane or kerosene ($200-$300).

But, what's the real cost? I'd like to compare apples with apples to figure
out which fuel is more cost effective. (Note: it seems in most propaganda
that propane is better for your respiratory health in enclosed areas than
kerosene)

I booted up Microsoft's only decent piece of software and pulled out my
Pocket Ref (that little black book that has _almost_ every little bit of
info by Thomas J. Glover, Sequoia Publishing).

According to the ref:

Kerosene is 80% efficient and takes 9.56 gal. (US) to produce 1,000,000 BTU
Propane is 78% efficient and takes 1.97Mcf to produce 1,000,000 BTU

Here's where things get wierd, or my math is _way_ off.

The Pocket Ref says Mcf = thousand cubic feet. OK propane takes 1,970 cf
(1.97*1000) to produce 1,000,000 BTU. Seems high, doesn't really make sense,
but OK.

I buy 4 gallons of Propane to put into my 20 lb propane cylinder at the
hardware store. Gallons and cubic feet are both measures of volume, right?
1cf=7.48052gal.

So, "according to my calculations" it takes 14,736 gallons of propane to
produce 1,000,000 BTU. That's a little expensive @ $1.75 gallon.

Even if kerosene is $3.00 gallon, that's only $30 to produce 1,000,000 BTU.

What's wrong with this?

My hunch is that 1 gallon of _liquid_ propane, which I buy at the hardware
store, is a heckuva lot more than 0.13368 cubic feet of _gaseous_ propane,
which I use in my BBQ grill (no gas v. charcoal discussions, please)

Does anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks,

David

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:18:59 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have one of the forced air (torpedo/bullet/rocket engine things) and
it works just fine with plain old diesel, so you might want to throw
that price into your equation. If you could find the weight of 1 cu ft
or liter of propane at STP, then you could find out how much is in a 
pound. Some place on the web must have it.

David G. Russell wrote:

> Even if kerosene is $3.00 gallon, that's only $30 to produce 1,000,000 BTU.
> 
> What's wrong with this?
> 
> My hunch is that 1 gallon of _liquid_ propane, which I buy at the hardware
> store, is a heckuva lot more than 0.13368 cubic feet of _gaseous_ propane,
> which I use in my BBQ grill (no gas v. charcoal discussions, please)

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:22:28 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Dave, I think that the CF measurments you're working
against are gaseous...you're not allowing for the
expansion of the liquid propane to its gaseous form.

Methinks if you find the expansion ratio and plug that
into your calculations it might make a bit more
sense....I can't see it being that disparate.

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:23:32 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: Bob & Sue Bernard <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Stromberg carb
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,
There was a Stromberg for most common cars as an aftermarket replacement.
I had two on a 40 Chevy 6, that were model BXOV-2.
It was a direct replacement for the Carters and Rochesters so would bolt on 
a Land-Rover just like one of those.
They were in my experience simple enough to work on and trouble free.
I found rebuild kits in Hemmings from a guy in (I think) Maryland.

Bob B

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:27:29 -0700
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] RE:John Cranfield and Hilift
Reply-To: [email-masked]

And please give him my regards and wish for a speedy recovery. We had to
use a hi-lift to get Ralph back on the trail this weekend. He drove up
an old mining road above timberline, and a snowdrift made him slide
slightly over the edge. The slope was loose talus, so any movement 
would make him slide down even more. So he angled his jack, put the head 
between the hitch and pin, and jacked it up and over. This was the only 
way to get him back on the trail with nothing to winch to. We were all
careful to stay out of the way of the jack of course. I believe a while
ago there was a discussion about what was more useful, a hi-lift, a 
winch, or lockers. Obviously it is the jack, and situations like this 
prove it.
-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 14
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:32:32 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Propane
4.24 lb/US gal at 600F
36.28 cu ft of gas at 600f and 30"Hg  per US gal of liquid
91,500 Btu/US gal

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:35:11 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Stromberg carb
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

There's a photo of a truck with 2 of the BXOV-2
carburettors on it at:
http://www.inliners.org/rides/jim461.jpg

Sure looks a lot like the photo on your Web
page....Bob might be on to something.

                   ajr

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Message: 16
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:53:06 -0800
Subject: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> before use, and to always ensure that the handle is up when the jack is
> under strain,

Along this line, my hi-lift has a thin wire "clamp" on the handle to keep it
in the raised position.  About as effective as using a dog leash as a tow
strap (I was 16 and didn't know any better).
I use a short bungy cord to hold the handle, but there has to be something
better.  Ideas?
Pete

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Message: 17
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:58:52 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Two pipe clamps, the half round with a bolt hole on one side kind, and a
bolt with a wing nut.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hope Peter [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:53 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers

> before use, and to always ensure that the handle is up when the jack is
> under strain,

Along this line, my hi-lift has a thin wire "clamp" on the handle to keep it
in the raised position.  About as effective as using a dog leash as a tow
strap (I was 16 and didn't know any better).
I use a short bungy cord to hold the handle, but there has to be something
better.  Ideas?
Pete
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Message: 18
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:07:13 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

David,
    Having used these heaters (we call them construction heaters), on job
sites many times I would say get the propane.  The kerosene really stinks.
If you have to work in that space for any length of time it can make you
ill.  My experience is minimal though, only having used units from 24,000
BTU to 3,000,000 BTU.  ;-)

(We heated a 300' x 75' barn with it while we finished the inside)

Kirk

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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:17:41 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> get the propane.  The
> kerosene really stinks.

Seconded - I have one of the propane ones myself and
it's odorless (or nearly so). I like it, compared to a
kerosene salamander  I rented once.

          ajr

P.S.: In case anyone has noticed the change in email
address - [email-masked] is going away, so i
decided to shift to a venue from which I could get my
fun mail anywhere...

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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:18:23 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, David G. Russell wrote:

> 
> I buy 4 gallons of Propane to put into my 20 lb propane cylinder at the
> hardware store. Gallons and cubic feet are both measures of volume, right?
> 1cf=7.48052gal.

Cubic feet aret probably at STP.  Propane has 2520 BTU/CF at 60 F, 9100
BTU/US gallon at 60 F.  

Kerosene stinks something awful, which is worth keeping in mind.

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Message: 21
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:28:24 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Check this for a safe heater unit. No flames in the garage
http://www.spaceray.thomasregister.com/olc/spaceray/cbloc.htm
You could biuld your own with some black pipe and an eductor fan to suck the
heat through the pipe.
The nice thing about infrared heaters is they warm you not everything in
sight and they are quiet too.

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:50:12 -0500
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

My hilift mounting brackets came with a little velcro loop strap that keeps the handle secure.  Pretty nice.

Ron Ward

>>> [email-masked] 10/29/01 09:53AM >>>

> before use, and to always ensure that the handle is up when the jack is
> under strain,

Along this line, my hi-lift has a thin wire "clamp" on the handle to keep it
in the raised position.  About as effective as using a dog leash as a tow
strap (I was 16 and didn't know any better).
I use a short bungy cord to hold the handle, but there has to be something
better.  Ideas?
Pete
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Message: 23
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:54:41 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> So, "according to my calculations" it takes 14,736 gallons of propane to
> produce 1,000,000 BTU. That's a little expensive @ $1.75 gallon.
>
> Even if kerosene is $3.00 gallon, that's only $30 to produce 1,000,000
BTU.
> What's wrong with this?

you need to do the conversion from liquid to gas, taking into account of
course the amount of energy used in the operation.  I think you will need
air pressure and temp as well as internal pressure of the system and
probably the number of moles or atoms or something or other.  Chemical
formula for the substance and a periodic chart.  Ideal gas law maybe?
Calculate the number of moles of substance in 1 cf of liquid.  Then numer of
moles for 1cf in gasous.

I sold off all of my chem books the day after grades were posted.  I hated
that damn class.

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:02:20 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, David Scheidt wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, David G. Russell wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I buy 4 gallons of Propane to put into my 20 lb propane cylinder at the
> > hardware store. Gallons and cubic feet are both measures of volume, right?
> > 1cf=7.48052gal.
> 
> Cubic feet aret probably at STP.  Propane has 2520 BTU/CF at 60 F, 9100
> BTU/US gallon at 60 F.  

91500 of course.  Doh.

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:05:30 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: Tate Crumbley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Dico lighting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

For the climate control lights, there's only one bulb. Pull the knobs off 
(including the fan speed switch), unscrew the screws you see, and that 
plastic face plate should come off (IIRC). The bulb is a regular auto bulb 
soldered in a plastic holder. You can get the bulb/holder assembly as a LR 
part, or you can replace just the bulb if you're handy with a soldering 
iron. I don't recall the replacement part numbers off the top of my head, 
though.

Tate

>>I have several lights out in the interior off my 96 disco.  First, where 
>>the gear shifter is, the first gear through park gear >lights are out.  I 
>>have been sucessful in taking the trim out but after that i do >not know 
>>how to get to the light bulbs that need replaced.
>>Second, on the dash, the air condition system lighting is out ( this >is 
>>the red and blue lights, the 1 2 3 4 lights, and the control for 
>>air >flow.  How do you get back to these lights.
>
>
>>Dave Walls
>>Owner of:
>>Series II 88
>>96 Dico
>
>
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Message: 26
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:20:12 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The Jackall has sort of detents to hold the handle in the up position.

Remember to be extra carefull when lowering a vehicle. I once dropped the 
handle by mistake. It had enough speed to lower out one pin and start 
ratcheting down. When this happens, the handle will come flyign up. I got 
hit and almost broke my hand. It hurt for several days. I think this is what 
happened to John, except he was unlucky enough to get it in the head instead 
of the hand. Scary stuff.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

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He doesn't give a damn.
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Message: 27
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:26:05 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Pete Hope said:
>I sold off all of my chem books the day after grades were posted.  I
>hated that damn class.

Amen to that. I loved the labs though. I loved to spin a quarter on one of 
those magnetic stirring things. Pens in the centrifuge thing was also fun. 
My chem lab was late Friday afternoon which sucked except that it meant it 
was really casual so we goofed around a lot. I think the TAs were usually 
already into the beer ;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

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I wish I were a moron.
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Message: 28
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:45:55 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> My hilift mounting brackets came with a little velcro loop strap that
keeps the handle secure.  Pretty nice.
> Ron Ward

Ahh, just what I was looking for.  Have some 1/2 straps and velcro around
somewhere.  Shouldn't be to hard to permenantly attach to the handle so it
wont drop into the mud when used.  Short tail piece to velcro to self when
jacking, then wrap the bar to support the load.
Thx Ron.

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Message: 29
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:49:54 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Remember to be extra carefull when lowering a vehicle. I once dropped the 
>handle by mistake. It had enough speed to lower out one pin and start 
>ratcheting down. When this happens, the handle will come flyign up. I got 
>hit and almost broke my hand. It hurt for several days. I think this is 
>what happened to John, except he was unlucky enough to get it in the head 
>instead of the hand. Scary stuff.

Same thing happened to me, except I took it in the bridge of the nose. Why 
it didn't break my nose, I have no idea. Sure hurt like hell, and was a 
cheap lesson.

Keith

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Message: 30
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Carb Id
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:01:48 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have a Stromberg BXOV-1 on my Series.  Easy to rebuild.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Stockdales [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:52 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [lro] Carb Id
> 
> 
> 
> Well thats a new one to me.  I was ready to reply when you found the
> stromberg name.  I have never seen a Stromberg on a Series 
> Rover Before.  I
> could tell it was not a Solex, Zenith, Rochester, Holley or 
> Weber.  I have
> even seen SU setups on Series but never a Stromberg.  So 
> unless you want to
> be completely unique, I'd get rid of it.  Sure it may run ok, 
> but I havent
> seen parts for a Stromberg in years and I doubt that you will 
>  be able to
> put together a decent spares kit for trail side emergencies 
> or rebuild it.
> 
> But then again didn't Stromberg get bought out by SU?  What 
> else came with
> one of those?
> 
> Hurricane Mitch
> Going to wipe out the east coast again.
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Message: 31
From: "Garrick Olsen" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:03:43 -0600
Subject: [lro] Noise and worry
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'd like the digest's diagnosis on this: Low temp, the oil pressure is
great:50.  As the motor warms up, the pressure drops to around 7.  With
giving gas at low revs, while the pressure is low, I hear a loud purring
noise. The noise quiets as the oil pressure goes up.  (OLD 2 1/4 engine) What
am I dealing with here and what is the cost in time and UD$? Recent work:
Recon Unleaded RN headRearMainseal and clutch plateTiming chain. ?Rikin
Minnesota1960 SWB SW

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Message: 32
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:13:42 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Noise and worry
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Did you ever check the tolerances on the oil pump? 

Were I you the things I would do :

1: Drop the sump
2. Pull/disassemble/check oil pump (per the manual
procedure - replace the check ball and spring at the
same time).
3. Drop a bearing cap and a conrod cap and Plastigage
the bearing to check the tolerance. if it's worn to
copper then you already answered the question...

Depending on what you find it could be a bad oil pump
(80 bucks or so), bad bearings (overhaul - do the
rings at the same time) or the like.

In short, get the pan off and have a good look around
at the engine's condition.

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Message: 33
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:15:55 -0500
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

tsk tsk on goofing around fri. PM lab class.......
Rob MacCormick
Lab Safety Manager

You can dance with a wooden leg and eat with false teeth but you cannot see
through a glass eye.........So wear your eye protection.

N Forbes wrote:

> Pete Hope said:
> >I sold off all of my chem books the day after grades were posted.  I
> >hated that damn class.
>
> Amen to that. I loved the labs though. I loved to spin a quarter on one of
> those magnetic stirring things. Pens in the centrifuge thing was also fun.
> My chem lab was late Friday afternoon which sucked except that it meant it
> was really casual so we goofed around a lot. I think the TAs were usually
> already into the beer ;-)
>
> Niall Forbes
> 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
> Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
> The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm
>
> "See the happy moron,
> He doesn't give a damn.
> I wish I were a moron.
> My God! Perhaps I am!"
> --author unknown
>
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Message: 34
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:18:29 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Both cf and gal are volume measurements.  But in you case cf applies to the
gas state and gal to the liquid state.
To help your calculations assume 1 gal propane = 1000 cf of propane

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Message: 35
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:20:56 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, N Forbes wrote:

> 
> The Jackall has sort of detents to hold the handle in the up position.
> 
> Remember to be extra carefull when lowering a vehicle. I once dropped the 
> handle by mistake. It had enough speed to lower out one pin and start 
> ratcheting down. When this happens, the handle will come flyign up. I got 
> hit and almost broke my hand. It hurt for several days. I think this is what 
> happened to John, except he was unlucky enough to get it in the head instead 
> of the hand. Scary stuff.

The handle can also reach the top, bounce down enough to release another
notch, and repeat.  Teh result is the load is lowered in about 1/3 second.
Very scary!

Hope John recovers.

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Message: 36
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:23:28 -0800 (PST)
From: richer alan <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Stromberg BXOV-1
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Interesting carburettor - originally used on the
American Bantam Jeep from what i'm finding on the Web.

For a good colour photo of the beast, go have a look
@:

http://www.wmspear.com/Bantam/BXOV1.html

aj"What was the cubic inches of the old Go-Devil engine?"r

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Message: 37
From: Luca Ingianni <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:50:41 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Am Monday 29 October 2001 15:13 schrieb David G. Russell:

> My hunch is that 1 gallon of _liquid_ propane, which I buy at the
> hardware store, is a heckuva lot more than 0.13368 cubic feet of
> _gaseous_ propane, which I use in my BBQ grill (no gas v. charcoal
> discussions, please)

Exactly. 

[All data taken from http://www.weldingsupply.net/propane.htm and 
converted to metric for my convenience]

The specific volume of Propane is 0.538m^3/kg
your cylinder holds .0151m^3 * 498kg/m^3 = 7.52kg of liquid Propane.

So your cylinder holds the equivalent of 0.538m^3/kg *7.52kg = 4.05m^3 of 
gaseous Propane at atmosperic pressure and 380C
That's 143.0ft^3.

So you have (143ft^3 / 1970ft^3)*1000000BTU = 72590BTU in one tank.

> Does anyone have any other ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David

HTH,
	Luca (who prefers charcoal barbecues)

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Message: 38
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: "RRO" <[email-masked]>, "LRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:57:08 -0600
Subject: [lro] Off Topic Question
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I may be moving to either Philadelphia or St. Louis.  I know some people on
the list are from St. Louis, but I wasn't sure about Philly.  Could you
contact me off list?  I have some questions about the cities.

Thanks,
Carl

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Message: 39
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:02:49 -0500
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Hilift jack handle retainers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Exactly.

>>> [email-masked] 10/29/01 11:45AM >>>

> My hilift mounting brackets came with a little velcro loop strap that
keeps the handle secure.  Pretty nice.
> Ron Ward

Ahh, just what I was looking for.  Have some 1/2 straps and velcro around
somewhere.  Shouldn't be to hard to permenantly attach to the handle so it
wont drop into the mud when used.  Short tail piece to velcro to self when
jacking, then wrap the bar to support the load.
Thx Ron.
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Message: 40
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:33:29 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Trevor,
    It isn't true that infrared heaters don't heat anything in sight, that's
precisely what they do.  Supposedly they don't heat the air (they do only
VERY little).  They heat objects which are in the line of sight, if that
makes any sense.

Kirk

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Message: 41
Date: 29 Oct 2001 14:30:07 -0600
From: george kase <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] new key barrel question...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

anyone know how to remove old key barrels without the old keys?
manual says you need the old keys, which I ain't got...
thanks,
George

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Message: 42
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:27:46 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I guess thats what I was trying to say. From a comfort point of view it
feels like you are warmer than you actually are.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Hillman [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:33 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux

Trevor,
    It isn't true that infrared heaters don't heat anything in sight, that's
precisely what they do.  Supposedly they don't heat the air (they do only
VERY little).  They heat objects which are in the line of sight, if that
makes any sense.

Kirk
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Message: 43
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] new key barrel question...
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:28:59 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Slide hammer works !!!!

I have this on good authority :-)

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Message: 44
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:57:17 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Three years on a boat and nearly 10 years using alternate energy in our 
house got me real familiar with Kerosene.  Maybe the fumes went to my head 
but I kind of like the smell of kerosene.  If your stove/lamp/etc. is 
functioning properly, you don't smell the kerosene except when you fill the 
supply tank.  Sure liked the safety factor of kerosene on the boat.  Had a 
supply hose break that would have sent us to kingdom come if we'd been using 
propane.  Kerosene is not as convenient as Propane but seemed to be a lot 
more efficient.  Of course, with the limited availability of kerosene these 
days, kerosene has gotten to be quite expensive.  Used to be able to buy it 
in five gallon cans or in bulk at certain gas stations.  Now I can only find 
it in boutique 1 gallon cans. at exorbitant prices.

Aloha
Peter Ogilvie
Kona Coffee Rover
1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering
     from exposure of the dark side.
1966 109 pickup 'slime'  In my garage since '90, finally running.
1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava.
196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will
     certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust

>From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
>Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:18:23 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, David G. Russell wrote:
>
> >
> > I buy 4 gallons of Propane to put into my 20 lb propane cylinder at the
> > hardware store. Gallons and cubic feet are both measures of volume, 
>right?
> > 1cf=7.48052gal.
>
>Cubic feet aret probably at STP.  Propane has 2520 BTU/CF at 60 F, 9100
>BTU/US gallon at 60 F.
>
>Kerosene stinks something awful, which is worth keeping in mind.
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Message: 45
From: "James Wheat" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:16:46 -0800
Subject: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #136 - 18 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Strombergs were used on 6 cyl euro engines. I have one on my 109 Dormobile.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email-masked]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:48 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #136 - 18 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Using a hilift on a series (Paul Oxley)
   2. Re: Interstate motor speedway (Scott Wickham)
   3. Carb Id (The Stockdales)
   4. Re: Using a hilift on a series (N Forbes)
   5. Re: Using a hilift on a series (Neil Brownlee)
   6. Re: Carb Id (Dick Joltes)
   7. Re: Email server...no rover content (Stephen West-Fisher)
   8. Re: Using a hilift on a series (N Forbes)
   9. John Cranfield (Peter & Julie Rosvall)
  10. Re: Email server...no rover content (Dick Joltes)
  11. Re: Email server...no rover content (Hope Peter)
  12. Re: Email server...no rover content (Hope Peter)
  13. Re: John Cranfield ([email-masked])
  14. Re: Email server...no rover content (Michael Hatton)
  15. Dico lighting ([email-masked])
  16. Re: Dico lighting (Scott Wickham)
  17. Re: Brakes! ([email-masked])
  18. Re: Using a hilift on a series (Paul Oxley)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:10:35 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin.com
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Reply-To: [email-masked]

N Forbes wrote:

> No Paul, they have the holes side to side just like the hilift.

Oh, OK, then they'll bend just fine :-{)}

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 2
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Interstate motor speedway
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:27:05 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Please regard this only as a temporary loan.

Also be sure to stock up on cheap yellow mustard.

  Some Mitch is better than no Mitch ;)  You can have him back when we're
done with him.  I guess I'll be going to Tellico for a 'wheeling weekend
sooner than later.  Courtney and I were already talking about it.  We'll
just take a week's va-ca down there.  Visit here Aunt then off to Tellico
for some 4X4 fun.  Maybe this can be the FPLRG trip for summer 2002 or when
ever Mitch is settled in.  Bill, Mark, Wes, you all seeing this??

Scott Wickham Jr.
Pgh., Pa.
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
'72 SIII
'84 RR
http://www.fplrg.org/

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Message: 3
From: "The Stockdales" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:51:37 -0700
Subject: [lro] Carb Id
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Well thats a new one to me.  I was ready to reply when you found the
stromberg name.  I have never seen a Stromberg on a Series Rover Before.  I
could tell it was not a Solex, Zenith, Rochester, Holley or Weber.  I have
even seen SU setups on Series but never a Stromberg.  So unless you want to
be completely unique, I'd get rid of it.  Sure it may run ok, but I havent
seen parts for a Stromberg in years and I doubt that you will  be able to
put together a decent spares kit for trail side emergencies or rebuild it.

But then again didn't Stromberg get bought out by SU?  What else came with
one of those?

Hurricane Mitch
Going to wipe out the east coast again.

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Message: 4
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:35:06 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a horrible coincidence, list regular and very good friend to countless
people on the list and in the Rover community, John Cranfield was seriously
injured by a hi-lift this weekend while off-roading in Maine. I understand
he was airlifted to hospital and underwent surgery and is safe but still
badly injured. Apparently the jack slipped and hit him in the face, knocking
him unconcious and injuring his eye.

John is the most skilled and experienced off-roader I know and this just
shows you always need to be extra careful. Let's all hope for his full and
speedy recovery.

We're thinking of you John.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 5
From: "Neil Brownlee" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 16:43:34 -0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Do you know where he is now? I'm sure there are lot of people who would like
to send him cards etc?

-------------------------------------------------------------

Neil (#150)

1978 Land Rover Series III 109" Ex-MOD - 'Harriet'
1997 Land Rover Discovery V8i ES - 'Piglet' - XD9000i, Terrain Master Winch
Bumper & Hi-Lift carrier, Bearmach steering/sump guard, Mantec Side
Protection Sills, Scorpion Racing +2" suspension lift, De-Carbon Shocks,
Southdown Fuel Tank Guard, 235/85/16  Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's, WH
Wheelcarriers Diff Guards, JE Engineering 4 Tailpipe SS Exhaust, Safari
Snorkel
1998 Land Rover Freelander - 'Misty'

http://www.PigletV8i.org.uk
http://community.webshots.com/user/landroverdiscoveryv8i
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:52:11 -0500
From: Dick Joltes <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Carb Id
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I looked at the photos as well -- there's a Stromberg name plate on
what appears to be the front corner.  Isn't the model number visible,
or has the plate corroded to the point where it can't be read?

Strombergs were used on Triumphs and numerous other UK cars as well, as
were SUs.  I have a Stromberg 150CD on my Spitfire and recently rebuilt
a pair of SUs for it; Stromberg was US spec and SU was UK spec.  Parts
should be available unless this is a real oddball model.  I guess it
all depends on how well it runs and if you can find a parts supplier.

Hell, that thing could've come off a Packard, Tucker, or even a Rolls.

cheers,

dj
1974 SIII Airportable, "Smudger"

The Stockdales wrote:
>
> Well thats a new one to me.  I was ready to reply when you found the
> stromberg name.  I have never seen a Stromberg on a Series Rover Before.  I
> could tell it was not a Solex, Zenith, Rochester, Holley or Weber.  I have
> even seen SU setups on Series but never a Stromberg.  So unless you want to
> be completely unique, I'd get rid of it.  Sure it may run ok, but I havent
> seen parts for a Stromberg in years and I doubt that you will  be able to
> put together a decent spares kit for trail side emergencies or rebuild it.
>
> But then again didn't Stromberg get bought out by SU?  What else came with
> one of those?
>
> Hurricane Mitch
> Going to wipe out the east coast again.
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:32:33 -0500
From: Stephen West-Fisher <[email-masked]>
Organization: Coastal Data Systems
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Email server...no rover content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hope Peter wrote:
>
> Becasue of security concerns I have been looking at running Apache as my
web
> server instead of IIS4.  Any recomendations for a mail server that runs on
> NT?  I do not know enough about exchange to ensure that it's secure.

Good choices. I'd recommend running FreeBSD, it's pretty easy to set up
and administer, but since you don't want to use UNIX, there is a version
of sendmail for NT. It's available at the sendmail website
http://www.sendmail.org.

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Message: 8
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:52:43 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm not sure right now but I'll pass it on if I find out. I know the
hospital asked people not to call. The last thing they need is to be
inundated with calls.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 9
From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:40:24 -0400
Subject: [lro] John Cranfield
Reply-To: [email-masked]

My husband Peter and I are acting as a go between for information about John
Cranfield.  The hospital and his family have asked that we help reduce the
number of phone calls, so please don't hesitate to email me for information
or with messages and I will pass them on to John.  If you wish to send
anything via snail mail, please contact me I'll let you know within a day
where you can send things.

At last report he was stable, I am awaiting a phone call from his neice at
this time.

Julie and Peter Rosvall
Wolfville, NS

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:07:13 -0500
From: Dick Joltes <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Email server...no rover content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Hope Peter wrote:
> >
> > Becasue of security concerns I have been looking at running Apache as my
web
> > server instead of IIS4.  Any recomendations for a mail server that runs
on
> > NT?  I do not know enough about exchange to ensure that it's secure.

Apache tends to be more stable and seems to have better throughput than
anything Microshite puts out.  As Stephen mentioned, there's a version
of sendmail for NT and it's hopefully patched up to the point where all
the current anti-aliasing and relay-inhibiting features are included.
These are important.

Exchange is a bad idea; the fact that it's tightly integrated into the
NT OS--just like IIS--means it's a virus' best friend.  It seems as
though most of the truly evil virii appearing today are based on systems
running NT, IIS, and Exchange server...probably for this very reason.

There may also be a version of Postfix (alternative to sendmail) for NT;
I've been hearing some good things about it from other friends and it's
supposed to be mucho easier to configure as well.  Check it out at
http://www.postfix.com.

Then again, running anything on UNIX is just plain better ;-).

dj (who just finished setting up his home Solaris SPARC20)

1974 SIII Airportable, "Smudger"
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Message: 11
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Email server...no rover content
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:53:23 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Good choices. I'd recommend running FreeBSD, it's pretty easy to set up
> and administer, but since you don't want to use UNIX, there is a version
> of sendmail for NT. It's available at the sendmail website
> http://www.sendmail.org.

Thx.
I am considering RedHat

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Message: 12
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Email server...no rover content
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:56:17 -0800
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Then again, running anything on UNIX is just plain better ;-).
>
> dj (who just finished setting up his home Solaris SPARC20)
>

Thanks for the additional info.

I agree with the above statement.

Pete

FYI:  there is a growing trend that has been reported in the IA comunity
about UNIX virus/trojans/worms etc.  No where near the problems found in the
Windows environment, but still a growing trend.

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Message: 13
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:43:16 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] John Cranfield
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

what happened to him, i didnt hear that anything was wrong.  ill keep him in
my prayers.

adam

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:11:10 -0500
From: Michael Hatton <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Email server...no rover content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'mm running redhat on an old 486, which is my firewall/router/mailserver
Its been up for 180 days and that includes all the upgrades :) - another
benefit. I am not sure but I think you can serve apache thru it.

I like to think of linux as the "land rover" of operating systems (but I
know some would say FreeBSD is). And like my Land rover, it isn't quite
stock either :)

Michael Hatton

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Hope Peter wrote:

>
> > Good choices. I'd recommend running FreeBSD, it's pretty easy to set up
> > and administer, but since you don't want to use UNIX, there is a version
> > of sendmail for NT. It's available at the sendmail website
> > http://www.sendmail.org.
>
> Thx.
> I am considering RedHat
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Message: 15
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:00:04 EST
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Dico lighting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have several lights out in the interior off my 96 disco.
First, where the gear shifter is, the first gear through park gear lights are
out.  I have been sucessful in taking the trim out but after that i do not
know how to get to the light bulbs that need replaced.
Second, on the dash, the air condition system lighting is out ( this is the
red and blue lights, the 1 2 3 4 lights, and the control for air flow.  How
do you get back to these lights.

Dave Walls
Owner of:
Series II 88
96 Dico

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Message: 16
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Dico lighting
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:23:37 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

  Dave, I'just don't feel this is the forum for you 'Dico lighting'
questions ;)  Oh, Disco, well that's different.  Hey, I'm hoping we get out
to see you before Christmas for a trail ride.

Scooter

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Message: 17
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:39:49 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Brakes!
To: [email-masked]
CC: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2001,  Harald Hansen posted:

<<I'll give you one word to improve your vocabulary: 'helvete'.  Put pressure
on the first syllable.  The first 'e' is pronounced as the 'a' in 'hand'.
The other two are pronounced as the 'e' in 'set'.  The 'l' is 'narrow', not
like the normal English 'l'.  Use as required. >>

Tusen Tak

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover 109
Denver Colorado

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:01:28 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin.com
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Using a hilift on a series
Reply-To: [email-masked]

N Forbes wrote:

> John Cranfield was seriously
> injured by a hi-lift this weekend while off-roading in Maine. I understand
> he was airlifted to hospital and underwent surgery and is safe but still
> badly injured. Apparently the jack slipped and hit him in the face,
knocking
> him unconcious and injuring his eye.

Sh!t... If someone's got some way of getting a message to him, please
include my wishes for his speedy recovery.

On the subject of lethal hi-lifts: I also have the tendecy to become
blase', and have to remind myself constantly to oil the climbing pins
before use, and to always ensure that the handle is up when the jack is
under strain, even then I slip up sometimes, thankfully without any dire
consequences so far.

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 46
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Stromberg BXOV-1
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:28:40 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

That is what I have.  Only idle speed and mixture adjustments.  Very easy to
rebuild and kits are readily available.  I have the manual for one which
another lister sent to me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: richer alan [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:23 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [lro] Stromberg BXOV-1
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting carburettor - originally used on the
> American Bantam Jeep from what i'm finding on the Web.
> 
> For a good colour photo of the beast, go have a look
> @:
> 
> http://www.wmspear.com/Bantam/BXOV1.html
> 
> aj"What was the cubic inches of the old Go-Devil engine?"r
> 
> =====
> Please ignore the following advertising.....
> Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
> http://personals.yahoo.com
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Message: 47
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:32:32 -0500
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Woo Hoo there's anthrax in my building!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Got this from management today:
Senior managers from the IBB met with representatives from HHS and the
Center for Disease Control (CDC) this afternoon.  The results of the IBB
mailroom anthrax tests were released and indicate that one of the five
samples taken from the IBB mailroom showed a "presumptively positive"
result for anthrax.  This indicates it is likely that some anthrax
spores were present in the mailroom.  The mailroom employees began a
ten-day regimen of antibiotics last week on the recommendation of the
Public Health Service that was consistent with the CDC protocol.  This
will be confirmed by additional testing of these samples over the next
24-48 hours.  The mailroom has been closed.  If the follow-on test
confirms anthrax, the mailroom will be cleaned.  However, the CDC
experts indicate that the levels of possible contamination beyond the
mailroom present little threat to employees and no further
decontamination would likely be required.  There is no evidence of this
type of contamination presenting an aerosol threat.  The CDC experts
indicated that no additional distribution of antibiotics was warranted
within the Cohen Building.

Oh well, looks like no time off like every OTHER infected building
gets...
Hack, cough....
-- 
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 48
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:37:48 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] new key barrel question...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Easton Trevor A wrote:

> Slide hammer works !!!!

So does a drill bit slightly wider than the key way.  Aim at the top of the
keyway.  

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Message: 49
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:46:24 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Heater Redux
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Peter Ogilvie wrote:

> 
> Three years on a boat and nearly 10 years using alternate energy in our 
> house got me real familiar with Kerosene.  Maybe the fumes went to my head 
> but I kind of like the smell of kerosene.  If your stove/lamp/etc. is 
> functioning properly, you don't smell the kerosene except when you fill the 
> supply tank.  Sure liked the safety factor of kerosene on the boat.  Had a 
> supply hose break that would have sent us to kingdom come if we'd been using 
> propane.  Kerosene is not as convenient as Propane but seemed to be a lot 
> more efficient.  Of course, with the limited availability of kerosene these 
> days, kerosene has gotten to be quite expensive.  Used to be able to buy it 
> in five gallon cans or in bulk at certain gas stations.  Now I can only find 
> it in boutique 1 gallon cans. at exorbitant prices.

You can still get kero in bulk in most places in the mainland.  At least
most places with a winter.  Oh, another sugestion:  Get a CO meter.  

Davdi

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Message: 50
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:15:55 -0800
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Anthrax, Shock absorbers and the 67 V8
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Oh dear, don't send me any e-mails if you have Anthrax.  Head for the hills
in the Land Rover. It is interesting to note how the media are handling this
Anthrax scare. It is serious, but since the first exposure, thousands of
people have died in cars and from tobacco related diseases and only 5 or 6
from Anthrax. There is a heart disease related death every miniute and a car
crash every 30 seconds in the USA today.  Smallpox is the one to be worried
about.  It kills 30% of those it infects.  I am not concerned about
Anthrax.  We should all get on with our lives.
Technical question....
If I have a non-standard distance for my shocks to span between the spring
and chassis, how do I know how long the new shocks need to be.  Is it as
obvious as measuring the distance with the Land Rover on he ground and using
that distance as the mid point of the travel of the new shock?
67 V8.  My 67 Series IIa SWB V8 is running and on the road.  Not registered,
but on the road. I drove her 30 miles up and down dale on Saturday.  There
are no lights yet so it was done during the day.  I have water temp, oil
pressure and volts/amps and so can watch the engine.  This was the first
"long" run where she could have had a problem.  The Range Rover was
following, or trying to, with my wife in it.  I pulled away up steep hills
and left it standing.  The engine is out of a 74 Corvette and the exhausts
are short so you hear it before you see it.  It has a 4 barrel on it to, so
you can feel the surge of power as you press the accelerator. I chickened
out at 70mph because I have no shocks and anything above 65 is "illegal" It
has Range Rover Differentails in it and so is fast. I never at any point put
my foot to the floor.  The speed is directly and instantaneously
proportional to the position of my foot. I feel as if flooring it would
twist a halfshaft. It is open and is bright yellow and is on big tires.
Looks like a Land Rover in every way, but definately does not behave like
one at all and for sure does not sound like one.  I have a hard top for it,
that I will build up for the winter.  It is a very nice thing indeed.   Can
I attach pictures to this email?
Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington

Bill Adams wrote:

> Got this from management today:
> Senior managers from the IBB met with representatives from HHS and the
> Center for Disease Control (CDC) this afternoon.  The results of the IBB
> mailroom anthrax tests were released and indicate that one of the five
> samples taken from the IBB mailroom showed a "presumptively positive"
> result for anthrax.  This indicates it is likely that some anthrax
> spores were present in the mailroom.  The mailroom employees began a
> ten-day regimen of antibiotics last week on the recommendation of the
> Public Health Service that was consistent with the CDC protocol.  This
> will be confirmed by additional testing of these samples over the next
> 24-48 hours.  The mailroom has been closed.  If the follow-on test
> confirms anthrax, the mailroom will be cleaned.  However, the CDC
> experts indicate that the levels of possible contamination beyond the
> mailroom present little threat to employees and no further
> decontamination would likely be required.  There is no evidence of this
> type of contamination presenting an aerosol threat.  The CDC experts
> indicated that no additional distribution of antibiotics was warranted
> within the Cohen Building.
>
> Oh well, looks like no time off like every OTHER infected building
> gets...
> Hack, cough....
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
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Message: 51
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:51:21 EST
Subject: Re: [lro] Anthrax, Shock absorbers and the 67 V8
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 10/29/01 5:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> .  Smallpox is the one to be worried
> about.  It kills 30% of those it infects.

That's the number thrown around.  May not really be that high in Western 
Europeans.  Certainly is closer to 90% for Native Americans.  I personally 
would be concerned about smallpox but wouldn't start worrying yet.

Reasons:
1.  All of us who have had Smallpox vaccine way back when have some low level 
of immunity.  It is known that the vaccine can last as long as 50 years in 
some individuals.  In the rest of us with normal immune responses, we would 
probably get sick, but wouldn't die.

2.  It is highly infectious, person to person and by fomites.  Afghanis don't 
have vaccine to smallpox--it would only take a bit of "fomite" transmission 
to make virtually all of Afghanistan very sick with Smallpox (ie must have 
accidentally brought it over from the US).  Vaccinate those you wish to have 
survive and let smallpox do the rest.

It is a problem to keep in mind, and well worth massively gearing up for 
vaccine production but as for heading for the hills, well, I guess that's 
where al Quaida is hiding so it might be worth toting along some Vx gas just 
in case.

Nate

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Message: 52
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:16:53 -0500
Subject: [lro] Bio-terrorism No LRC
Reply-To: [email-masked]

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/bioterrorism/bioterrorism.jsp?id=22994
800 is a rather eye opening interview from New Scientist

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