Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #93 - 41 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (Paul Oxley)
   2. Re: re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (car4doc)
   3. re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (Fred Herman)
   4. Gauges in a IIa (Peter Monk)
   5. Re: Gauges in a IIa (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
   6. Re: bloody idjuts with big spanners (DaveB)
   7. Re: Gauges in a IIa (David Scheidt)
   8. Re: Disco anti theft radio (RON WARD)
   9. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics ([email-masked])
  10. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Jeff Bieler)
  11. Re: Gauges in a IIa (Alex Maiolo)
  12. Re: Gauges in a IIa (Bill Adams)
  13. Dormobile for sale in CO (Keith Tanner)
  14. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  15. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Keith Tanner)
  16. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Jeff Berg)
  17. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Jeff Bieler)
  18. RE: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Tackley, John)
  19. Re: Disco anti theft radio ([email-masked])
  20. RE: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Easton Trevor A)
  21. RE: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Jeff Berg)
  22. Re: LR's and some young ladies (Scott Wickham)
  23. Re: LR's and some young ladies (Scott Wickham)
  24. Re: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Keith Tanner)
  25. Re: LR's and some young ladies (Frank Elson)
  26. Series One Rear Axle Bearing? (Chris)
  27. RE: took the plunge aka Parabolics (N Forbes)
  28. RE: LR's and some young ladies (Harald Hansen)
  29. Re: LR's and some young ladies (Scott Wickham)
  30. RE: took the plunge aka Parabolics (Peter Ogilvie)
  31. 2.25 Dizzy for sale (Mark Pilkington)
  32. Cleaning out the garage (parts!!) (Andre Shoumatoff)
  33. Re: Cleaning out the garage (parts!!) (Jim Hall)
  34. Re: LR's and some young ladies (Russ Wilson)
  35. Re: re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (Hope Peter)
  36. Re: re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (car4doc)
  37. Re: bloody idjuts with big spanners ([email-masked])
  38. Re: Rant follow-up and the 4r's ([email-masked])
  39. Re: Rant follow-up and the 4r's ([email-masked])
  40. Re: Interested in GM Engine conversion stories (Tim Czajka)
  41. Trip report, Long winded ([email-masked])

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:59:14 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bryan Hoult wrote:

> >GM 250 straight six.  
> How's the tranny holding up to the 250?

The Chevy 250 cid straight six is the best engine Land-Rover never put
in a vehicle.

I've had two of them and they're just about perfect in a series vehicle. 

Now... as to the drivetrain...

I had Santana boxes in both vehicles, but I think the 2a box is the next
strongest option. In a series 3 box you will lose 2nd pretty quickly,
and you'll toast the synchromesh cluster. I would also prefer decent
Salisbury rear diffs to Rover diffs.

What's also nice is to go to 3.54:1 diffs.

The 250cid (4.1 litre) conversion is the most popular and proven engine
conversion for Land-Rover Series vehicles in South Africa. If the work
is well done it actually adds to the resale value over a stock vehicle.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:22:06 -0500
From: car4doc <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have to agree that the hp of the chevy e5 cylinder engine is able
perfect for the LR.
I explored using the inline 6 but went with the 4.3 v6 so I did not have
to change the stock grill location of the 2A.  It did require bulkhead
cutting but sheet medal is easier then moving the grill forward.
Good luck with your conversion.
Rob

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Message: 3
From: "Fred Herman" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:15:39 -0400
Subject: [lro] re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Reply-To: [email-masked]

So far no problem, both for the tranny and the Superwinch OD.  Of course now 
both will break.  I did have to replace the drive shafts when one broke, 
after about 10,000 miles on the 250.

I do very little hill climbing, but I do travel the Capitol beltway at 70 
mph.

Fred Herman

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:55:17 -0400
From: Peter Monk <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Gauges in a IIa
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi
I hope someone can help me!  I have a '67 IIa SWB with 2.25 petrol
engine.  For sometime my gas and water temp gauges have been reading
low.  Then last week they both failed to read anything simultaneously.
Over the weekend I replaced the voltage stabilizer in the dash, and both
gauges seemed to be fine (before replacing the dash).  Yesterday again
both gauges are dead!  I checked that there is a supply to the voltage
stabilizer, but my test light doesn't light up on the output side (what
should the voltage be there?).  Any suggestions?  The wiring is new, and
all the other electrical bits like wipers, dome light, heater,
headlights... work. Could the new voltage stabilizer have failed?  What
could cause it to fail so soon?

Any suggestions thankfully received.

Peter

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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [lro] Gauges in a IIa
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:07:56 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Re: Voltage stabilizer:

This thing is technology from the Dark Ages - it "regulates" the voltage by
turning it on and off! The internal circuit of the regulator is a heater
and a bimetal strip - the heater (depending on current load) heats, which
causes the bimetal strip to bend and turn off the juice, so it cools and
reconnects...and so on and so on.

The output should be a "blinking" current (on and off at a rate dependent
on the phases of the moon, methane from dog farts, or number of warlocks in
the area). In short, it just turns on and off irregularly. If it's doing
nothing I'd suspect the new unit has failed, or there is a connection
issue.

As to why it failed - if there is a partial short in the system it may well
have cooked the points internal to the device. Throw a jumper across the
stabilizer and see if the panel comes back to life - if it does I suspect
that the new stabilzer has failed also.

If you have an ammeter put that in in place of the stabilizer. If after a
few minutes the current hasn't stabilzed at less than an ampere then you
have a partial short or a bad sender in the system.

                         Alan

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] bloody idjuts with big spanners
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Frank Elson <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> do you guys have screw up 'scissor' jacks over there?

yup

> only a couple of inches high when closed and 'thousands of uses
> around the
> home'

number 1 choice of bicycle thieves in the US! 

(they are great for opening kryptonite locks)
dave

=====
DaveB
Arlington, VA
"GreenHELL" '72 SIII 88"- "Unstoppable"
"Red Square" '60 SII 109"- "Purrs like a (leaky) kitten" 

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:19:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Gauges in a IIa
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Peter Monk wrote:

:
:Hi
:I hope someone can help me!  I have a '67 IIa SWB with 2.25 petrol
:engine.  For sometime my gas and water temp gauges have been reading
:low.  Then last week they both failed to read anything simultaneously.
:Over the weekend I replaced the voltage stabilizer in the dash, and both
:gauges seemed to be fine (before replacing the dash).  Yesterday again
:both gauges are dead!  I checked that there is a supply to the voltage
:stabilizer, but my test light doesn't light up on the output side (what
:should the voltage be there?).  Any suggestions?  The wiring is new, and
:all the other electrical bits like wipers, dome light, heater,
:headlights... work. Could the new voltage stabilizer have failed?  What
:could cause it to fail so soon?
:

Output voltage should be something like 10V.  (It's often marked on the
part, dunno if the Rover one is).  Early failure could be defective
component, wrong polarity, excesisve input voltage, wrong part, heat,
vibration, someone stealing it and replacing it with a broken one.

-- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:26:00 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Disco anti theft radio
Reply-To: [email-masked]

If the code isn't working, make sure you have the right code.  Source the code by the radios serial number, not the trucks VIN number.

Ron

>>> [email-masked] 09/18/01 08:15AM >>>

Good Morning:

I had my son post the question about the code for the anti theft radio for 
the disco.
I have the code but am making some sort of error any help will be apprecitated

Thank You
Dave Walls
1965 IIa88
1996 Disco
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Message: 9
From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:49:17 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 9/18/01 6:15:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> PS-out of curiosity what is the PITA factor of the springs/shocks swap?
> 

Depends--If the bolts are cold welded to the frame, a major PITA.  Pray to 
the gods that someone put antiseize compound on them before the last install.

Nate

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:09:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I think it's just easier to assume that the hardware will all be crap and
that you'll replace it with new gear (bolts, shackles, etc.).  That way, you
can go buy/rent/borrow and angle grinder and just knock everything off.

Then you can get to the real dirty part.  Removing and replacing frame
bushings.

There's an article in Septembers Land Rover Owner International that has a
decent picture of a home made bushing installation tool.

Jeff

on 9/19/01 6:49 AM, [email-masked] at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 9/18/01 6:15:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email-masked] writes:
> 
> 
>> PS-out of curiosity what is the PITA factor of the springs/shocks swap?
>> 
> 
> Depends--If the bolts are cold welded to the frame, a major PITA.  Pray to
> the gods that someone put antiseize compound on them before the last install.
> 
> Nate
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Message: 11
From: "Alex Maiolo" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Gauges in a IIa
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:36:13 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

P-

I don't know how important it is for you to keep your original guages in the
truck, but any 2 1/16 guage will work.
You can avoid using senders by having a direct link to your manifold for
water temp, and a capillary from your pump to your oil guage. These are
relatively cheap - maybe $20 each, and very reliable.
I have a pair of Sunpro water and oil guages with eveything you need to hook
them up, and I'll mail them both to you for $20. I put digital guages in my
hybrid but used these for about four weeks while I was waiting for them to
arrive. They are almost new. If not, you can buy guages at any NAPA.

Just a suggestion.

Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Monk" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: [lro] Gauges in a IIa

>
> Hi
> I hope someone can help me!  I have a '67 IIa SWB with 2.25 petrol
> engine.  For sometime my gas and water temp gauges have been reading
> low.  Then last week they both failed to read anything simultaneously.
> Over the weekend I replaced the voltage stabilizer in the dash, and both
> gauges seemed to be fine (before replacing the dash).  Yesterday again
> both gauges are dead!  I checked that there is a supply to the voltage
> stabilizer, but my test light doesn't light up on the output side (what
> should the voltage be there?).  Any suggestions?  The wiring is new, and
> all the other electrical bits like wipers, dome light, heater,
> headlights... work. Could the new voltage stabilizer have failed?  What
> could cause it to fail so soon?
>
> Any suggestions thankfully received.
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:49:46 -0400
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Gauges in a IIa
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Petey scrobe:
 The wiring is new, and all the other electrical bits like wipers, dome
light, heater, headlights... work

Don't fret chum, it won't be long 'fore they go out too.
-- 
Bill Adams
Motion Graphics/3D Design Director
IBB Broadcast Design Center, Washington DC
[email-masked]
202-205-9638

1966 Land Rover 2A 109SW Diesel
1981 Honda GoldWing Standard
1963 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:48:07 -0600
To: "lro-koan.team.net" <[email-masked]>
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Dormobile for sale in CO
Reply-To: [email-masked]

There's a Dormobile for sale here in town (see the ad on LRX for the $7500 
truck). I stopped by to have a look. I have no association with the seller. 
I'm not going to be posting every single Rover that's being sold in the 
area, but this one's unusual.
-------------------
The frame is excellent. I could not find a flaw there. Bulkhead looks very 
good - solid footwells with only a small bit of corrosion on the left side 
pillar - nothing compared to my truck! The Dormobile equipment is limited 
to the roof and two seats that fold flat - there's nothing else there that 
appears to be Dormobile specific. Body is very straight, wiring is mostly 
homemade and the battery didn't have enough power to run the electric fuel 
pump. Photos are available as I had a digital camera.

Chassis 26206301 C.

Basically, the structure is there and good. The interior needs completing 
with regards to equipment. Running gear is a question. It's apparantly 
spent its entire life in New Mexico and Colorado, so it's been mummified in 
the desert. Thus no rust. Not even galvanic corrosion on the seat box.
---------------------
....if anyone's interested in a pop-top.

Keith

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Message: 14
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 01 08:10:22 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>> PS-out of curiosity what is the PITA factor of the springs/shocks swap?
>> 
>
>Depends--If the bolts are cold welded to the frame, a major PITA.  Pray to 
>the gods that someone put antiseize compound on them before the last install.

With a whole lot of luck the previous owner read the LR owner's manual 
where it states that the 'U' bolts should be retightened every 12,000 
miles.  But, since no one reads the manual, chances are you will need to 
cut the 'U' bolts off.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:34:20 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Reply-To: [email-masked]

When I did my spring swap, I took an angle grinder to pretty much 
everything the impact wrench couldn't bust through. That means three of the 
four spring bolts in the rear and all the u-bolts. Makes life a lot easier 
and my RM parabolics came with new u-bolts.

I'm not going to tell you what it was that kept the truck off the road for 
several days, as it might jinx you. Nothing I could have done anyhow and I 
don't think anyone else has experienced it.

Keith

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:47:25 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>I'm not going to tell you what it was that kept the truck off the 
>road for several days, as it might jinx you. Nothing I could have 
>done anyhow and I don't think anyone else has experienced it.

Let's see... You could have hired me to install your parabolics. I 
think I hold the record with my four days (not in their entirety, 
thank you) of installation.

Can't remember exactly how Bill Adams described my procedure--it 
wasn't flattering. I managed to snap a brake line during the 
installation too...

Buying the complete kit--new ubolts, etc. is definitely the way to 
go. I also bought poly-bushings from Great Basin.

In the end, it all worked though.

jeff

Wondering how he's supposed to reinstall the ubolts when all of the 
ends are bent over... ;-)
-- 
==                                                                   
  Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT        
                     [email-masked]
                      ==================
	My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
	My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
	Taste for the good life, 
	I can see it no other way.
		--Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:05:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

My install took 2 1/2 days.  I discovered that 3 month old babies make great
work supervisors.  He evidently took great joy in expressing his displeasure
with my work at every opportunity.  I would also comment that he did not
once ever offer to assist in any way.  Sitting their smugly in his bouncy
chair in the shade while I dripped sweat in the afternoon sun....

I wound up cutting off all the u-bolts and the spring bolts on both front
hangers.  The shackles all came off easily enough, though I could only
separate one set from the springs themselves.  Bushings came eventually, but
it was the 2nd worst part of the job.  Blow torch method on inner sleeve
works wonders.  Had a terrible time re-installing bushings (absolutely the
worst part of the ordeal) and wound up buggering all 4.  Went to poly
bushings from GBR.  Time will tell if that combination holds up (rubber
bushings in the springs and poly in the frame).  A lot of guys tried to help
out with home made bushing installation tool fixs, but I didn't
understand/couldn't picture what they were telling me.  The picture in the
September LROI made their descriptions very clear, but too late to help my
efforts.

Also had to modify military shackles for the front springs.  I drilled and
tapped new holes below the top holes of the military shackles (making them
about 3/4" longer then stock shackles) to keep the spring wrap from
contacting the frame on compression.

Jeff

on 9/19/01 8:47 AM, Jeff Berg at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
>> I'm not going to tell you what it was that kept the truck off the
>> road for several days, as it might jinx you. Nothing I could have
>> done anyhow and I don't think anyone else has experienced it.
> 
> Let's see... You could have hired me to install your parabolics. I
> think I hold the record with my four days (not in their entirety,
> thank you) of installation.
> 
> Can't remember exactly how Bill Adams described my procedure--it
> wasn't flattering. I managed to snap a brake line during the
> installation too...
> 
> Buying the complete kit--new ubolts, etc. is definitely the way to
> go. I also bought poly-bushings from Great Basin.
> 
> In the end, it all worked though.
> 
> jeff
> 
> Wondering how he's supposed to reinstall the ubolts when all of the
> ends are bent over... ;-)

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Message: 18
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:11:00 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

For removal of the old spring bolts, u-bolts, etc. I highly recommend an
impact wrench.
If you have a compressor, you may already have an air impact, which is OK.
If not, a cheap but decent electric impact is available -on sale now- at
Harbor Freight and Cummins Tools, for 49$ w/case.  I have 2 of these handy
tools, one kept in the shop and one in the truck(along with an inverter).
Use it for wheel nut R&R routinely and so many other uses I can't even list,
but the principle use is painless, effortless rusty nut/bolt extractions.
If it can't remove the nut, it will break the bolt...either way the problem
is solved with a simple press of the trigger.
As for paint, I recommend a good rust paint...I too got the RM parabolics
which are dip-primed.  I used ValSpar rust enamel obtained at Big Lots for
8$ a gallon, but any good paint will do...Hammerite, even Rustoleum.  Paint
is so easy to maintain when damaged.  I used three coats and worked it well
into the small spaces between leaves(used a piece of corrugated cardboard
box soaked in paint and worked it into the cracks), though with parabolics
there is good brush space between leaves along most of the length of the
spring.  Spray painting would probably be easier, though messy and more time
consuming.
Also do yourself a favor for the future, and get the greasable frame
bushings from Bill at Great Basin Rovers.  Polybushes for the springs are
OK, but I used the rubber ones that came with the springs.  Get new U-bolts
and self-locking nuts...those 30 year old ones should be replaced, even if
you can get them off without damage.

JT/ric

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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:00:05 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Disco anti theft radio
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ron:

Thank you i think i have it 

Dave Walls
1965IIa88
1996 Disco (now playing your favorite music)

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Message: 20
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:11:11 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Let's see... You could have hired me to install your parabolics. I 
> think I hold the record with my four days (not in their entirety, 
> thank you) of installation.
> 
Are you claiming longest or shortest? Mine only took a day and I didn't
break any lines. Had to wait a few days between start and finish because the
supplied U bolts for the front were too short. 

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:17:56 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Are you claiming longest or shortest?

Longest...

jab

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Message: 22
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:27:01 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

you have to REALLY REALLY REALLY be into rovers to look at tiny
vehicles in the backround when there are 3 naked women in the foreground!

  That would be me.  Anymore it's just auto pilot for spotting Rovers of all
types, even between the boobies ;)

Scooter

Material possessions never really thrilled me. I guess its like having a
hammer. Owning a hammer isn't thrilling but beating the crap out of
something that doesn't want to cooperate is gratifying.

-Bill Fishel 2001.

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Message: 23
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:36:13 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You'd think that Scott would have better things to do....  He does have
a VERY cool girlfriend (my wife's best friend) that should be keeping
him busy.

  She IS the coolest, and we were 'keeping busy' just the other night.  MAR
will be the 2nd rally she's had her truck to this year, Courtney's into it
almost as must as I am.  So far I've got that damn spoiler off the front of
her truck and put a small roof rack on it.  One of her dogs, Keanau, is
coming down for the rally.  He's a 135 lb. Alaskan Malamute so he likes to
walk around in the back of her RR.  So the camping stuff is going to the
roof rack.  I know she'd like me more if I fixed her cruise control but, I
haven't figured it out yet.
  Better things to do...I'm getting laid off soon so I have some free time
on my hands.  Time to work on her RR!  Fix the cruise, new hand brake cable,
leaking brk. M/C resivoir, hub seal...blah, blah, blah.

Scooter

Material possessions never really thrilled me. I guess its like having a
hammer. Owning a hammer isn't thrilling but beating the crap out of
something that doesn't want to cooperate is gratifying.

-Bill Fishel 2001.

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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:03:08 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Let's see... You could have hired me to install your parabolics. I think I 
>hold the record with my four days (not in their entirety, thank you) of 
>installation.

It was about 3 days for my rear springs. I had to drill out a 6" long bolt. 
Wore out a carbide bit.

Fronts took a couple of hours, working solo.

Keith

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Message: 25
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:17:06 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

you could have got it via properties...

anyway:
[email-masked]

Best Cheers

Frank
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Scott Wickham <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies

> 
>  What's your email Frank?
> 
> Scooter
> 
> Material possessions never really thrilled me. I guess its like having a
> hammer. Owning a hammer isn't thrilling but beating the crap out of
> something that doesn't want to cooperate is gratifying.
> 
> -Bill Fishel 2001.
> _______________________________________________
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> [email-masked]
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:34:18 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Chris <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Series One Rear Axle Bearing?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Does anyone know the generic bearing number for the series one rear axle? 
It will be something like a 6208.

Thanx, Chris

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Message: 27
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:31:06 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>>  Are you claiming longest or shortest?
>>
>
>Longest...
>
>jab

Oh yeah?  ;-)

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

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He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:16:46 +0200
To: [email-masked]
From: Harald Hansen <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 17:32 18.09.01 -0400, Easton Trevor A wrote:
>
> Truly amazing what can be returned by the most innocent search ;-0 

Tell me about it.  At the Norwegian Land Rover Club site there's a page
with statistics about web access.  Among other things it shows what kind of
search words people submitted to the search engines when they found our
site.  A while ago there was a hit from a search engine that showed the
search string to be (in Norwegian, actually): "pu**y pictures".  

Two things spring to mind: 
1) Why did our pages come up on this search?  
2) Why did he take time out of his pu**y hunt to view our pages?
   He seemed to be quite focused before he found us...

:)

Regards,
Harald

PS: Help me out here; is it possible to use the p-word in polite company?

-- 
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SW engineer, strategy gamer, LR owner   |___|__|__\___     Land Rover
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        harald.hansen@kongsberg[DOT]com ""(_)""""""(_)"   Station Wagons

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Message: 29
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:38:22 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

PS: Help me out here; is it possible to use the p-word in polite company?

  I knew a few salesmen that could probably get away with it.  Russ Wilson
comes to mind quickly ;)

Scooter

Material possessions never really thrilled me. I guess its like having a
hammer. Owning a hammer isn't thrilling but beating the crap out of
something that doesn't want to cooperate is gratifying.

-Bill Fishel 2001.

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Message: 30
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:22:02 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Unfortunately, an impact wrench doesn't work on a bolt rusted onto the inner 
sleeve.  The rubber in the bushing soaks up the impact and nothing happens.  
Someone on the list gave me the hint to get the rusted bolts out of the 
sleeve.  Get a bar clamp and clamp against threaded end on the head of the 
bolt on the other side.  Get a BIG hammer and whack the clamp on the 
threaded end.  The clamp will probably fall off, so reposition and continue 
to whack.  At least on mine, the bolt started to move after a few whacks.  
Don't know the physics behind this as it defies logic.  Maybe it works 
because it adds mass to the bolt.  Drove the bolt back and forth a couple of 
cycles after it loosened up enough to begin to come out.  Important thing is 
don't burn out the rubber in the bushing before doing the clamp trick or 
you'll be SOL.  Heat may work but didn't do a thing for me.  Squirting the 
bolts in 'Liquid Wrench' for several days, before attempting removal, won't 
hurt.

I used Rustoleum gloss black on my RM parabolics.  Seems to be holding up 
after nearly a year, though not much salt exposure.  Lots of paint is the 
secret of longevity.  Ideally, I'd reccomend sandblasting the primer off and 
coating with POR 15.

Stock bushings have worked fine for me.  They seem to last 20+ years on my 
trucks.  The main problem is R&Ring them.  Not a fun job even with air 
tools.  As far as adding more grease points, WHY???  Never seem to run out 
of things to do on the Rovers without adding additional grease points.  Of 
course, if you like messing with grease, have fun.

Aloha
Peter Ogilvie
Kona Coffee Rover
1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering
     from exposure of the dark side.
1966 109 pickup 'slime'  In my garage since '90, finally running.
1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava.
196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will
     certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust

>From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
>Subject: RE: [lro] took the plunge aka Parabolics
>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:11:00 -0400
>
>
>For removal of the old spring bolts, u-bolts, etc. I highly recommend an
>impact wrench.
>If you have a compressor, you may already have an air impact, which is OK.
>If not, a cheap but decent electric impact is available -on sale now- at
>Harbor Freight and Cummins Tools, for 49$ w/case.  I have 2 of these handy
>tools, one kept in the shop and one in the truck(along with an inverter).
>Use it for wheel nut R&R routinely and so many other uses I can't even 
>list,
>but the principle use is painless, effortless rusty nut/bolt extractions.
>If it can't remove the nut, it will break the bolt...either way the problem
>is solved with a simple press of the trigger.
>As for paint, I recommend a good rust paint...I too got the RM parabolics
>which are dip-primed.  I used ValSpar rust enamel obtained at Big Lots for
>8$ a gallon, but any good paint will do...Hammerite, even Rustoleum.  Paint
>is so easy to maintain when damaged.  I used three coats and worked it well
>into the small spaces between leaves(used a piece of corrugated cardboard
>box soaked in paint and worked it into the cracks), though with parabolics
>there is good brush space between leaves along most of the length of the
>spring.  Spray painting would probably be easier, though messy and more 
>time
>consuming.
>Also do yourself a favor for the future, and get the greasable frame
>bushings from Bill at Great Basin Rovers.  Polybushes for the springs are
>OK, but I used the rubber ones that came with the springs.  Get new U-bolts
>and self-locking nuts...those 30 year old ones should be replaced, even if
>you can get them off without damage.
>
>JT/ric
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:41:35 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] 2.25 Dizzy for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Does anyone need a new 2.25 four cylinder Distributor with cap.  It is in a
bubble wrap box and is new. I inherited it with my Land Rovers and do not need
it. Is $150 fair?  I think that they are $188 on the market.  Let me know.
Thanks.
P.S.  It is from England.  Not American bought, if that makes any difference.
Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington

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Message: 32
From: "Andre Shoumatoff" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:15:25 -0400
Subject: [lro] Cleaning out the garage (parts!!)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I cleaned out the garage today as I'm about to move it's contents with me
out west...
Found the flywheel I bought and had resurfaced for my tranny swap, excellent
condition.
$30 plus about $20 shipping (somewhat heavy) equals $50.  And I have a Rover
Series III front licence plate holder that I'll sell for the cost of
shipping, $5
Any takers?  Email me bachchannel.  If no one buys the flywheel I might have
to drop the price, just trying to get somewhere near what I paid for it...

Andre [email-masked]
http://www.uvm.edu/~ashoumat

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Message: 33
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:31:42 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Cleaning out the garage (parts!!)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Where out west are you moving to?

Andre Shoumatoff wrote:
> 
> I cleaned out the garage today as I'm about to move it's contents with me
> out west...
> Found the flywheel I bought and had resurfaced for my tranny swap, excellent
> condition.
> $30 plus about $20 shipping (somewhat heavy) equals $50.  And I have a Rover
> Series III front licence plate holder that I'll sell for the cost of
> shipping, $5
> Any takers?  Email me bachchannel.  If no one buys the flywheel I might have
> to drop the price, just trying to get somewhere near what I paid for it...
> 
> Andre [email-masked]
> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashoumat
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-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 34
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:11:23 -0700
From: Russ Wilson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] LR's and some young ladies
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The "P" word?    Why I have no idea what you are talking about.    Pump, 
pickle, purple.....prehensile penile preponderance?    Do any of those 
work?

On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 02:38 PM, Scott Wickham wrote:

>
> PS: Help me out here; is it possible to use the p-word in polite 
> company?
>
>
>   I knew a few salesmen that could probably get away with it.  Russ 
> Wilson
> comes to mind quickly ;)
>
> Scooter
>
> Material possessions never really thrilled me. I guess its like having a
> hammer. Owning a hammer isn't thrilling but beating the crap out of
> something that doesn't want to cooperate is gratifying.
>
> -Bill Fishel 2001.
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
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>

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Message: 35
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:30:54 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> I explored using the inline 6 but went with the 4.3 v6 so I did not have
> to change the stock grill location of the 2A

I have been toying with the idea of a 4.6l also.  Either that or the 200tdi.
Did you use the Series tranny with the 4.3?
Did you go FI or get a carb conversion?
Pete

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Message: 36
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:39:09 -0500
From: car4doc <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] re:Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Pete,
Well what I did was put a summit 500 cfm carb on it & found a 1985 HEI
distributor for it.  The Stock transmission is holding up well but I
don't hotdog much.
Of all that I had to do the most was the modification to the bulkhead
which had to have the engine clearance. This did narrow the footwell
some but it was easy to move the gas pedal in a inch or so.
  The stock trans mounts were fine I thought I needed the short water
pump but as it turned out this caused me to add 2 maybe 2 1/2 inches to
the fan spacer to get close to the radiator. Also the stock radiator is
working well too.  My biggest problem is that I have emission testing to
take it for here & wonder how it will do.
I can offer pictures & take measurements. if that helps any one thinking
about this conversion.
Rob

PS  Anyone out there have a Dormobile front seat they can part with???

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Message: 37
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:03:24 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] bloody idjuts with big spanners
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Why am I wasting time on a 10-dollar hydraulic jack?

>     [Easton Trevor A]  

For years, I thought that a CB in a Land Rover meant "Cheap Bastard" and that 
they all came with one.

Finally understanding,
Zack

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Message: 38
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:20:11 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Rant follow-up and the 4r's
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> So what I'm hearing hear is that just because my wife has a broken arm I 
> should keep her anyhow?
> Bill Fishel
> 
> 
I think he was saying it depends. Sounds about right.

Zack

No really, keep her, how would we find new ones that would keep us? We 
already have the Land Rovers. At least in my case, I had her married before I 
caught the disease.

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Message: 39
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:24:10 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Rant follow-up and the 4r's
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Likely if is just a minor stress fracture you should keep her but if
> amputation seems necessary it would be better to cut your losses and get
> a new one.
> 
The best of many Dogs I have is three legged. My wife cut off the fourth. He 
obeys really well. Might work for such a wife too.

Zack
Dog is my co-pilot

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Message: 40
From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:32:20 -0600
Subject: [lro] Re: Interested in GM Engine conversion stories
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rob wrote:
>Well what I did was put a summit 500 cfm carb on it & found a 1985 HEI 
>distributor for it.
>
Do you know the year of the 4.3L block and
heads you used?  Was it originally FI and
you switched it to carb?  When you say
"summit 500 cfm carb" do you mean it is from
the Summit catalog?  If so what is the actual
brand of the carb?

Sorry for all the questions but I have been
waiting for someone to try a Series 4.3L
conversion and missed some of your earlier
posts.

My understanding of the 4.3L Chevy V6 is that
it was created from the 90 degree V8 and was
later bored out to it's current 4.3L size -
can't remember off the top of my head what
the initial cubic inches were.  Improvements
were made along the way - like a counter
balance shaft sometime around 1995 etc.

Anyway I don't know if the 4.3L variety
ever came with a carb, although I found a
"marine" manifold and carb for the 4.3L
that some people use.  To get to the point -
what is involved with getting a 4.3L engine
to run with a carb instead of FI?  Does the
block need to be a certain year?  Is it
complicated or simply a matter of ripping
out the electronics etc and bolting on
a manifold, carb, and HEI?  Thanks for
any info.

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88

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Message: 41
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:33:21 EDT
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Trip report, Long winded
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A quick trip report, minor LR content.

The bride and I took the week of the 10th through the 15th to make a quick 
road trip to Colorado, from Sacramento. Transport was her Dodge, with Cummins 
diesel.

Departed the evening of the 9th after her work, at 7:30 or so. I-80 to 
Winemucca, inclusive of  lots of 45 mph sections with construction, and 
stayed at the Motel 6. No big deal, basic accommodations. Ate breakfast the 
next morning at a pretty good diner on the Main drag of town there.  Its an 
old log cabin, and pretty much a landmark.

Departed Winnemucca, and drove on through Utah to Park City, where we 
departed I-80, and headed on across Utah on the two lane. Made Vernal Utah, 
and stayed the night in a Super 8 Motel, and ate at the 7-11 Ranch Dinner 
house. Excellent American food.  

The next morning, obtained greasy donuts, and coffee and headed for the local 
National Monument the dinosaur beds locally. There we heard the first of the 
terrible events in New York. We continued, on our way, having little choice, 
and it remained pretty quiet in the truck. We would play the radio, for a 
while, until it became too terrible, and then we'd shut it off. At Dinosaur, 
Colorado, we stopped at the tourist information, and were able to get 
information as to the Colorado byway program. We chose to continue our trip 
to Gomes' house via the byways. The rest of the day, we traveled in pretty 
isolated areas. We did about 4 hours on dirt roads, with only about 5 cars 
around during that period. There were more stopped or camped, but only about 
5 moving. Almost the entire byway was inspiring scenery, with grand vistas, 
and splendor as only Colorado gives. As we neared the end of the byway, we 
began to run into isolated ranches. We were interested in one of the ranches 
with a collection of Renault le cars out front. As well, the best looking 
Citroen I've seen in years. Pretty good looking in metal flake scarlet, 
perfect and glossy. We turned south again, at Yampa Colorado, and proceeded 
to the top of a 10,000 foot pass. There we were treated to a Colorado DOT 
special, the "sit and wait for the pilot car construction pause". Took about 
20 minutes. I took the opportunity to get the Pipes out of the back, and play 
a bit. Felt pretty good to play "Amazing Grace." The tuning period may have 
bothered others. Tuning did not bother the fellow from Georgia two cars back. 
He inquired as to what that thing was, was it a bagpipe? I laughed, and said 
it was a very sick cat, before I realized he was serious. Another group asked 
if it was I who'd been playing somewhere a bit further North. I told them it 
wasn't, and they allowed that they had been 30 miles north of the spot we 
paused, and had heard somebody playing Amazing Grace out of doors earlier 
that day. Probably just a good day to play the song.

We made it South to I-70, and a few miles east to George Town CO. There we 
proceeded South to #235 some windy 24 miles over a very neat pass, all dirt 
road.  At the top, you come out over the tree line, and pass back down into 
the trees again. There we happened on to a group of six male Rocky Mountain 
Bighorn sheep. They calmly stayed in the road, and we spent twenty minutes 
idling up to them. At the end, we passed them by at a distance of about 4' or 
a bit more. For those interested, there's a picture of their brethren in the 
current National Geographic. These were the big ones, not the little ones 
like in the Geographic. If you've seen a Mountain Dew commercial featuring 
the Bighorns, that's the one. This occurred about 20 miles from Dave Gomes 
home. Lucky Guy. 

Recovering from our brush with nature, we pushed on to Dave Gomes house, 
reaching there at dark. Would have been earlier, but it didn't seem like a 
day to push things. I'm gratified that we spent the day watching the 
countryside, instead of the tube. 

Dave and his beautiful wife Sheryl took us out to dinner, and we spent the 
night at his home. That's one smart couple, and quite a kid too. I expect 
that Dave will have his hands full about the time the kid figures out which 
end of the screwdriver is which. The previous night I'd had a dream in which 
we arrived at Davis' house, and there wasn't anyone around.  Proceeding 
around the house, we came upon the diesel 109" with a pair of feet sticking 
out of underneath. Shortly Dave flew out on his creeper, with his child in a 
snuggli, over his shoulders. Without a word, Dave went to the toolbox, chose 
a wrench, and showed it to the baby. The baby frowned, and then slapped him  
in the face. Dave chose another wrench, and the baby smiled and they flew 
back under the 109". Mercifully, there my recollection of the dream fades.

The next morning, we arose, and secured coffee, and rather than load the 
parts we used as an excuse to have a road trip, and visit Dave, sat on the 
sofa and talked. When it was apparent that the Galv. frame would not get into 
the truck by itself, we gave up hope, and went about loading it. A bit of 
grunting, a little ingenuity, and we had it loaded. There was some objection 
by Dave's dog too, but things worked out, and we did not in the process 
destroy the flower bed.

We departed by the same route we'd arrived, as far as George Town CO. This 
time there were no Bighorn sheep, but the Pine Marten got us some points in 
the viewing nature category. We lunched in George Town, and hit I-70 with big 
expectations. Construction soon got us back to reality, in the form of low 
speed limits, and traffic jams. We prevailed anyway, and stopped for the 
night in Grand Junction, staying at the Melrose hotel. I'd recommend it as a 
social experiment, or historical note, but less perhaps as a family place. 
It's more like Hotels used to be, say fifty years ago. The big concession is 
television. We passed on the nearby Sushi restaurant (this is Colorado, no 
nearby sea). Taking a cue from the locals we did attempt the brew pub. The 
Melrose does have the attraction of being almost next to the brew pub, so no 
alcohol, and throttle mixing.

The next morning we secured pastry and coffee at the nearby coffee house, and 
were pleasantly surprised. We were more amused a bit later by the Colorado 
National Monument which I highly recommend. Easy freeway access, enough vista 
even for children, the added attraction of extreme danger to children if you 
let them out of the car, and there's more. Exiting the Monument, we made for 
I-70 and burned about thirty miles into Utah, where we left I-70 and headed 
South down to Moab down the river valley. Coming into Moab the back way is 
much better than the main road. that is an extreme understatement.

Lunched in Moab, and moved North on the Main road to Arches National 
Monument. It apparently now is illegal to climb any named rock grouping. In 
the seventies it was not. My wife was impressed. Probably a good thing I 
stopped climbing rocks then.

About 6:00 we headed for home, after meeting our neighbors in the viewing 
area. Complete surprise. They were four Chinese ladies driving home to 
Sacramento from N.Y. State, having toured. We left the park, turned North, 
and began to eat the miles. Gaelin, my wife was to work on Saturday, and we 
needed to push it a bit. We stopped for a couple of cat-naps (she's a 
veterinarian, so we got them at cost) and breakfasted in Truckee at 10. By 
noon we were picking up one of the dogs and just about home.

Cheers, 
Zack

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