Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #80 - 14 msgs

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Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 03:09:02 -0400 (EDT)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Series IIA For Sale (John Cassidy)
   2. Timing chain cover removal (Garrick Olsen)
   3. Re: interesting (DaveB)
   4. Re: interesting (spousal support) (DaveB)
   5. Re: interesting (spousal support) (Rick Grant)
   6. Re: more (Exide/Optima) battery triva (Tom Rowe)
   7. Re: interesting (spousal support) (DaveB)
   8. Re: more (Exide/Optima) battery triva (Perrone Ford)
   9. Re: more (Exide/Optima) battery triva (David Scheidt)
  10. Re: more (Exide/Optima) battery triva (Perrone Ford)
  11. Pinion Bearing -- air locker (Chris Schramm)
  12. Swap galvy 88" frame for 109 parts! ([email-masked])
  13. Re: Window Channels (C. Marin Faure)
  14. Harley Davidson Servicar? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Bostr=F6m?=)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:27:27 -0400
From: John Cassidy <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Series IIA For Sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

1966 Series IIA SWB, full restoration for sale.  Galvanized frame, Konig PTO
winch, Marine blue paint.  Less than 500 miles since rebuild.  Always
garaged.  $17,500 OBO.  E-mail directly if interested.  [email-masked]

Cheers!  John
-- 
John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

Last Ditch Racing #912, <http://members.mint.net/rovah/lastditch.html>
Amsoil Lubrication Products, <http://www.lubedealers.com/cassidy.html>
The Downeast Land Rover Club, <http://www.delrc.com>

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Message: 2
From: "Garrick Olsen" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:18:01 -0500
Subject: [lro] Timing chain cover removal
Reply-To: [email-masked]

George in Chicago,

I needed heat on the water pump studs and the heavy mallet directly on the 
cast casing to get it off.  It took about a week of intermittent spraying 
heating and pounding.  Surprisingly the casing did not break!

-Rik
1960 Ser Two SWB SW
in Minnesota

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] interesting
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Rich Williams II <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> > Regules Missile, Late 1950's  65 feet long, originally built to
> carry an
> Atomic Warhead, ( NOT INCLUDED ) Rare.

DRAT!  And I thought this would
> come in
> handy loosening those stubborn frame bushings!

Nope. You still need to cut through them first. PITA that...

=====
DaveB
Arlington, VA
"GreenHELL" '72 SIII 88"- "Unstoppable"
"Red Square" '60 SII 109"- "Purrs like a (leaky) kitten" 

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:51:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] interesting (spousal support)
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Rick Grant <[email-masked]> wrote:

> otherwise the Land Rover causes no friction.

so it's come between you? 

ducking...

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DaveB
Arlington, VA
"GreenHELL" '72 SIII 88"- "Unstoppable"
"Red Square" '60 SII 109"- "Purrs like a (leaky) kitten" 

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:45:58 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: Rick Grant <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] interesting (spousal support)
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 07:51 07/09/01 -0700, DaveB, wrote

>--- Rick Grant <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > otherwise the Land Rover causes no friction.
>
>so it's come between you?

Well this thread is about to degenerate --- who needs skin lotions and 
moisturizers when there is 10W50?

                                             Rick Grant

  				  1959 Series II   "88"
				  VORIZO

Rick Grant Communications
Media and Crisis Management
Calgary Ottawa
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Message: 6
From: "Tom Rowe" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:36:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [lro] more (Exide/Optima) battery triva
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:10:28 -0700, G. Mugele wrote:

>
>At 7:45 AM -0400 9/6/01, Tom Rowe wrote:
>>Someone on one of the lists said that Exide recently bought Optima. 
>>I also asked Exide
>>about this and was told they hadn't. Another company (who's name 
>>excapes me at the
>>moment) bought Optima.
>
>Interstate
Right, although that isn't the parent companies name. It's the parent company I can't 
remember ;-)

Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
        in places even more inaccessible

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] interesting (spousal support)
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

--- Rick Grant <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> At 07:51 07/09/01 -0700, DaveB, wrote
> 
> >--- Rick Grant <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > > otherwise the Land Rover causes no friction.
> >
> >so it's come between you?
> 
> Well this thread is about to degenerate --- who needs skin lotions
> and 
> moisturizers when there is 10W50?

well, whatever you do, stay away from that Slick 50 stuff. it's bunk!

the lack of friction in my Land Rovers is most noticeable when applying
the brakes. (See below, "unstoppable")...

=====
DaveB
Arlington, VA
"GreenHELL" '72 SIII 88"- "Unstoppable"
"Red Square" '60 SII 109"- "Purrs like a (leaky) kitten" 

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:36:32 -0400
From: Perrone Ford <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] more (Exide/Optima) battery triva
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It seems my information was in error.

I was under the impression that GNB owned Optima when if fact it was a 
Scandinavian company who's name starts with a "G".  Optima Batteries is 
now owned by Johnson Controls. They also own brands:

DieHard
Duralast
Energizer
Equalizer
Eveready
EverStart
Interstate
Kirkland Signature
Motorcraft
Optima
Prostart

     Exide owns the Champion.brand.

http://www.gnb.com/

http://www.exide.com/products/trans/na/truck.html

http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/bg/products/products.asp?section=brand

I sincerely apologize for this error.  I am usually well researched, but 
really made a lulu this time.

-Perrone

Tom Rowe wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:10:28 -0700, G. Mugele wrote:
>
>>At 7:45 AM -0400 9/6/01, Tom Rowe wrote:
>>
>>>Someone on one of the lists said that Exide recently bought Optima. 
>>>I also asked Exide
>>>about this and was told they hadn't. Another company (who's name 
>>>excapes me at the
>>>moment) bought Optima.
>>>
>>Interstate
>>
>Right, although that isn't the parent companies name. It's the parent company I can't 
>remember ;-)

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:54:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] more (Exide/Optima) battery triva
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Perrone Ford wrote:

:
:It seems my information was in error.
:
:I was under the impression that GNB owned Optima when if fact it was a
:Scandinavian company who's name starts with a "G".  Optima Batteries is
:now owned by Johnson Controls. They also own brands:
:
:DieHard

Sears, Roebuck own the DieHard brand.  Johnson Controls merely make the
things.  That'll change at some point, when Sears finds someone cheaper.
(And i'm reasonably sure JC don't even make all of the current line)
Similiar things are true of at least some of the others.  (Ford surely still
owns the MotorCraft trademark)

-- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:03:39 -0400
From: Perrone Ford <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] more (Exide/Optima) battery triva
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Of course, you are correct.  I merely meant that those brands showed up 
when you visit the Johnson controls site.  In fact, Optima Batteries are 
still made by the same folks...  I guess its like the Ford/Land Rover 
thing...

-P

David Scheidt wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Perrone Ford wrote:
>
>:
>:It seems my information was in error.
>:
>:I was under the impression that GNB owned Optima when if fact it was a
>:Scandinavian company who's name starts with a "G".  Optima Batteries is
>:now owned by Johnson Controls. They also own brands:
>:
>:DieHard
>
>Sears, Roebuck own the DieHard brand.  Johnson Controls merely make the
>things.  That'll change at some point, when Sears finds someone cheaper.
>(And i'm reasonably sure JC don't even make all of the current line)
>Similiar things are true of at least some of the others.  (Ford surely still
>owns the MotorCraft trademark)

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Schramm <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Pinion Bearing -- air locker
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill -- I did the airlocker from GB last summer and I
have regretted not replacing the pinion bearing.  It
hasn't gone out yet (rear), but the front one did. 
Replace it while you're there -- I sure would if I had
to do it over again.
Chris

1971 IIA
1999 DII
Mad Wife
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Message: 12
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 22:01:14 EDT
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Swap galvy 88" frame for 109 parts!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have decided that if I can find someone willing to trade a new, painted 
black marsland galvy frame for an 88" for a very good condition 109" frame, 
then that is the route I will take.  If that goes through, I will also be 
looking to trade a set of brand new genuine (from RN) 88" springs for either 
a set of very very good condition 109" springs, or a set of 109" parabolics 
(yeah right!).  And also, looking for a good shape 109 rear body, maybe for 
trade for a fair 88" tub or two? or maybe some other rover parts?  Im located 
in Southborough, MA. Anyone with anything please shoot me an email.

Thanks a ton!

adam

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 20:22:03 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "C. Marin Faure" <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: Window Channels
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:59:17 +0200
To: [email-masked]
From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thor=E9n?= <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Window Channels
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>So what to use as glue? Also what do people use to glue the windows that
don4t open?

Some people advocate using glue to install window channels instead of the
as-built method of using screws.  Glue is actually a very bad idea, as you
will discover if you ever have to remove a glued-in channel to replace a
broken window.  It's pretty hard to do without destroying the channel, plus
you run the risk of damaging the body structure on either side of the
channel.  Also, as you pry and tug on the channel trying to get it loose,
you run the risk of breaking the unbroken half of the window.  The other
bad thing about glue is that, depending on how it spreads and sets under
the channel, you run the risk of getting moisture trapped under the channel
which will hasten the rusting process.

The screws in the lower tracks have a bad habit of rusting, which makes
them hard or impossible to remove with a screwdriver.  However,  they are
easily drilled out and new screws put in their place when you reassemble
the window.  You can use stainless screws, which will hold the rust off
longer but might cause a bit of corrosion problem in the track around the
screw head, depending on the environment you live in.  You can also use
brass or bronze screws, which won't rust but may corrode.  However, brass
is extremely easy to drill out should the need arise.

The screws in the side and upper channels generally remain in fine shape
for decades as they aren't bathed in moisture as are the lower screws, so
I've never had any problems getting them out with a screwdriver, even after
twenty years.

When I replaced the window tracks in my SIII some ten years ago, I used
aluminum channels (I don't know if these are still available) and bronze
screws.  So far, they have held up perfectly.  By the way, a good way to
ensure the longest life possible out of your window channels is to make
sure the drain holes that carry water out of the channels are clear.  These
are easily plugged with dirt, mud, felt bits, and other debris, at which
point when your window channels fill up with water they stay filled up.

But I would steer clear of gluing them in.  Any glue strong enough to hold
the channels securely in place against the moisture, vibration, heat and
cold will be tough enough to give you a real fight if you ever have to
remove them.  But if you're determined to make life hard for yourself and
insist on using glue, do NOT, under any circumstances, use 3M 5200.  This
is an excellent marine sealant/adhesive, and people will tell you that it's
one of the strongest sealant/adhesives around.  The problem is that they
aren't kidding.  5200 is used to bond through hull-fittings to boats and
bed in and seal deck or hull hardware that you never intend to remove
unless you do a complete rebuild of the boat.  It's fabulous stuff, and it
will do a terrific job of holding your window channels in place.  But you
will NEVER get them off again unless you damn near destroy the door or body
panels around the channels.

Don't use silicone sealant, either, as it breaks down fairly quickly when
used in this manner, and you will find yourself with loose window channels
witin a year or so.  One thing that might work better is black Life Caulk
sealant, which is used to caulk the deck seams of boats.  It cures to a
rubber-like consistency and is impervious to water.  However, it's
incredibly messy to work with, and like any other glue or sealant, you'll
have a devil of a time removing the channels in the future if you ever have
to.

Frankly, the best way of holding in the channels is the way Land Rover did
it in the first place.  Easy to install, easy to remove, and you don't run
the risk of damaging anything in the process, except the lower channel
screws you might have to someday drill out.

________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
   Seattle, WA

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Message: 14
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mattias_Bostr=F6m?= <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 08:07:46 +0200
Subject: [lro] Harley Davidson Servicar?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I4m interesting in getting hold of a Harley Davidson servicar. Here in
Sweden they are rare and don4t come up for sale that often. I wonder what
they cost in the US or in the EC. I would like a used one. When I get to the
point to buy one I could use some help with the purchase so I don4t need to
make the trip over.

Are there some companys that deal with these servicars that I could contact
direktly or are there any hompages on the internet?

That was a bounch of questions. The main thing is that I would like one of
thoes servicars...

Best Regards
Mattias Bostrom
S.L.R.K #1329
Land Rover 90" -98 Tdi CSW
BMW 528i Touring
home page: http://user.tninet.se/~vwu213j
e-mail: [email-masked]

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