Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #64 - 30 msgs

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   1. Re: Auto locker in Land Rovers ([email-masked])
   2. Re: Parabolics on, but... (John Cranfield)
   3. Re: Simple solution to TeriAnn's problem (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   4. Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs ([email-masked])
   5. brake troubleshooting... (Chris Oles)
   6. Re: brake troubleshooting... (S. Vels)
   7. Re: Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs (Jim Hall)
   8. Re: brake troubleshooting... (Peter Ogilvie)
   9. update time (Jim Hall)
  10. Re: update time (Jean-Leon Morin)
  11. Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs (Peter Halt)
  12. Re: Brake Line configuration (Ian Stuart)
  13. 2 litre or 2.25 litre on my 1961 Diesel SII SWB (Barney  Bryson)
  14. Re: The male mind at work.... (Par Leijonhufvud)
  15. RE: The male mind at work.... (john hess)
  16. Labour Day Rally Update (M.O.R.E. Club)
  17. TeriAnn's Wine Transport ([email-masked])
  18. On board refrigerators (Herman Stude)
  19. Re: Removing Brake Drums (Lloyd Allison)
  20. Re: Rear Axle (jos de vries)
  21. Re: Rear Axle (G. Mugele)
  22. Re: Roof vents (KEITH ARMSTRONG)
  23. CometCursor (Paul Quin)
  24. Re: Labour Day Rally Update (N Forbes)
  25. Re: brake troubleshooting... (Mark  Love)
  26. USMC Mercedes? (Winn Bearden)
  27. Re: Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs (Ivan Van Laningham)
  28. Re: USMC Mercedes? ([email-masked])
  29. Re: USMC Mercedes? (M. Tompkins)
  30. Re: USMC Mercedes? (Harald Hansen)

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Message: 1
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 06:09:06 EDT
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: Auto locker in Land Rovers
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Adam wrote:

>There were some rover rear axles that had a type of auto locker (like the 
detroit) >installed from the factory.  I believe this was around the late 
60's.

Adam is correct. We own a 1966 SIIa 88 with a factory installed auto locker 
in the rear diff. It was painted with the same special Tnemic paint as the 
interior of the diff and the bolts securing it were still wired. It 
apparently uses a cup and cone type mechanism, with wheel spin forcing the 
two together to lock it. It makes for interesting driving around sharp 
mountain curves and sometimes going over obstacles when it engages and 
disengages with a clunk. I was told that they were more commonly installed in 
109s, but excessive axle breakage caused most of them to be replaced with 
open diffs with the later fix being the Salisbury diffs.

Karen Sindir
'74 SIII 88 Red Rufy
'68 SIIa 88 Barbaros
'95 Disco EFE

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:15:27 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Parabolics on, but...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

What is much more likely is that the frame is tweeked a bit on that side
possibly as a result of an inaccurate repair following a frame break
above the front axle. This is the most common area to crack on the LR
chassis.
The hint here is that the truck is sitting level.
John and Muddy

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> if your shackles are touching, or are even CLOSE to touching your frame at
> regular ride height, there is a serious design flaw with the springs.

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Message: 3
Subject: Re: [lro] Simple solution to TeriAnn's problem
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 01 08:17:47 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Wine on an off-road trip? Jeeze, I wonder if I'll ever become that finicky.
>On my last real adventure, which involved dashing halfway across canada from
>Ottawa to John Cranfield's yard, in Nova Scotia, I lived on two 2L bottles
>of cheap pop, lots of water, two bags of doritos, some kraft dinner (instant
>macaroni and cheeze) and some assorted easily prepared junk food....

Well, you see I drive and camp in a Land Rover RV and enjoy playing house 
on the trail.  Besides I enjoy prepairing relativly elaborate meals.  

Leasurly off road travel with frequent stops to smell the 
sage/redwood/salt breeze, exposing film, followed by a nice dinner with a 
good wine is my idea of the land Rover lifestyle.  It's not everyone's 
idea, but it suits me.  I'm probably one of the very few people with a 
dedicated tea cabinet in their land Rover.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 4
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:17:01 EDT
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

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Message: 5
From: "Chris Oles" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:29:38 
Subject: [lro] brake troubleshooting...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Having a brake shoe dragging problem.  After a test run yesterday trying out 
my carb adjustments, I got out of the rover and the rear brakes were 
smoking.  I've also had the brakes lock up and not release and after a few 
minutes they let go and I can move the truck again.  Obviously this problem 
has taken the truck off the road until it is corrected but here are the 
particluars:
1)  all new brake lines
2)  flex lines are the braided stainless variety
3)  master cylinder is new (non-rover)from Paddocks
4)  fluid is new Castrol LMA and recently bled with an eazi-bleed system
5)  the wheel cylinders are newish (according to the PO)
6)  the only not replaced then are the jcts at the front and rear axle (did 
I mention that this was a single-line system?)

When the drum cooled, I pulled it and after pumping the pedal once, the rear 
shoe moved as it should but doesn't retract.  The pedal has also been rock 
hard recently...

Any suggestions?  Plug in the line?  Bad master cylinder?  I still have the 
old one that worked before it was taken out.

Thanks all!

Chris
70 SIIa 88

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:54:48 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] brake troubleshooting...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Chris Oles wrote:

> 5)  the wheel cylinders are newish (according to the PO)

How old is newish? ;-)

PO's often claim that the vehicle for sale is almost as when it left the
factory.

> When the drum cooled, I pulled it and after pumping the pedal once, the rear
> shoe moved as it should but doesn't retract.  The pedal has also been rock
> hard recently...
> Any suggestions?  Plug in the line?  Bad master cylinder?  I still have the
> old one that worked before it was taken out.

Check spring position on offending shoe. Dissemble wheel cylinder and check the
seal and the cylinder walls. Also check the condition of the piston. Rust will
reduce clearance in the cylinder.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:20:46 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You should send your messages in plain text. HTML and I believe MIME
get stripped off.

[email-masked] wrote: nothing at all

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 8
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] brake troubleshooting...
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:23:17 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Your symptoms are classic flex hose deterioration since its both brakes.  A 
deteriorated hose will cause the breaks to hang/lock up and then slowly 
release when allowed to sit for a period of time.  But you say the flex hose 
is new.  If you have a spare rear brake flex line, might swap it in to see 
if the problem goes away, failing any other solution to the problem.

Did the truck sit for any length of time.  I've had a wheel cylinder freeze 
up after sitting idle for only two weeks.  Gave similar indications as yours 
but only on one wheel.  You could R&R the cylinders, reusing the old bits if 
no problems, just to be sure that they are free.

Aloha
Peter Ogilvie
Kona Coffee Rover
1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering
     from exposure of the dark side.
1966 109 pickup 'slime'  In my garage since '90, finally running.
1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava.
196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will
     certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust

>From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: Re: [lro] brake troubleshooting...
>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:54:48 +0200
>
>
>Chris Oles wrote:
>
> > 5)  the wheel cylinders are newish (according to the PO)
>
>How old is newish? ;-)
>
>PO's often claim that the vehicle for sale is almost as when it left the
>factory.
>
> > When the drum cooled, I pulled it and after pumping the pedal once, the 
>rear
> > shoe moved as it should but doesn't retract.  The pedal has also been 
>rock
> > hard recently...
> > Any suggestions?  Plug in the line?  Bad master cylinder?  I still have 
>the
> > old one that worked before it was taken out.
>
>Check spring position on offending shoe. Dissemble wheel cylinder and check 
>the
>seal and the cylinder walls. Also check the condition of the piston. Rust 
>will
>reduce clearance in the cylinder.
>
>rgds
>sv/aurens
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:26:25 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: "lro" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] update time
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Well, I finally am getting my butt in gear and updating my web page.
I now have Holy Cross pictures (soon to include rover pics), Kelly Flats
with Bill Rice, Tim Czajka (in a jeep, shame shame ;)), and Travis 
McIntosh, And Geneva with Mitch, Travis, Rafe in a Powerwagon and Ike
Goss. More to come as I get the time including the 2001 S.S. Rally. All
the pics are a decent size so downloading may take a while on a slow
connection.
-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 10
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] update time
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:16:12 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Must say all this snow is kind of making me anxious... Can't wait to get the
tire chains out and start hitting the fluffy stuff. The pictures look
absolutely beautiful, as do the rovers, especially Bill Rice's 109... The
galvy breakfast, and galvy'd, unpainted, untouched T pieces and bulkhead are
absolutely gorgeous... I must say I am envious to the tenth degree...

;-)

J-L

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:08:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Halt <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

For all you hard core Rover/ computer geeks out there
like me, go to www.cometcursor.com, download the
cursor program and get yourself a little green series
Rover cursor under sports and leisure / autos.

Regards,

Peter
'64 Series IIA
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http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:04:20 +0100 (BST)
From: Ian Stuart <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Brake Line configuration
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Michael Hatton wrote:

>
> Continuing on my endless endeavour to finish my frame over on my 1972 SIII
> 88", I am redoing all the brake lines and noticed that the setup is
> different frame what is described in the "Green Bible" (Which is actually
> blue?). I have one line going directly from the Master Cylinder to the
> rear 3-way junction on the rear diff and another line from the Master
> Cylinder going to a 3-way junction for the front brakes. Is this correct,
> or more appropriately, is this safe?
On Series III with servos, there should be a split system.

This has one pipe going to the rear axle, and another to the front axle -
via a "shuttle" or "balancing valve" on the chassis rail by the bulkhead

For vehicles with the larger front brakes from the 2.6/V8 models, the
front master-cylinder-outlet goes to the rear axle, and the rear outlet
feeds the front brakes. The outlets are of differnet sizes, so you can't
mix them up...

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Message: 13
From: "Barney  Bryson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:46:30 +0100
Subject: [lro] 2 litre or 2.25 litre on my 1961 Diesel SII SWB
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi folks,
             I've recently bought a 1961 Diesel SII SWB.  After a few months
work I got it MOT'd last Saturday(first time!!).
I am trying to establish if it has a 2 litre or 2.25 litre diesel(perhaps a
replacement)

The following number is stamped on the engine : 558114

Can anyone tell me which it is?

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:01:19 +0200
From: Par Leijonhufvud <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Simon J. Harding <[email-masked]> [2001.08.21] wrote:
> 
> How about one of those  webbing shopping bags suspended in space inside your
> rover with bungee cords running off in about 8-10 directions.  

I would substitute a foam padded box attached -- bolted - to a heavy
weight for the webbing bag. Basically you will need something with
sufficient mass that the any vibrations are smoothed out, and suspended
such that the major ones are absorbed by the suspention cords. 

I don't think that air tables come dimentioned for the amplitude
experienced in the LR. 

I just realized that you might want to investigate placing the wines in
a container of water, shock cord suspended in the middle. Then the water
will act to dampen the vibrations as well. I'm envisioning somthing like
a large nalgene bottle , with the wine-bottle inside (using some
suitable packing material), that is placed inside a bucket with
heavy shock cords going out in at least 4 directions (the corners of a
three sided pyramid), and the bucket filled with water and as tight lid
placed on top. You would need to actually fill the bucket.

/Par

-- 
Par Leijonhufvud                                      [email-masked]
Rub her feet.  
		-- Lazarus Long (R.A. Heinlein) 

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:26:58 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: john hess <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

How about this: use centrifugal force to pellet sediment.  Imagine a 
contraption that mounts to the road wheel and holds bottles of wine 
with the neck toward the tread of the tyre.  As the wheel rotates, 
centrifugal force would pellet sediments into the cork.  With a bit 
of math, the rcf (relative centrifugal force x gravity) could be 
calculate (rpms, and diameter mainly needed).

After driving on the hiway for many miles, one could remove the 
bottles and leave them in the rig for off roading.  The compacted 
sediment will likely survive as a single chunk to be removed with the 
cork.

cheers,

John F. Hess, Davis California   [email-masked]
Land Rover Dormobile web pages:
http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html
1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis"  1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby"
1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie"

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Message: 16
From: "M.O.R.E. Club" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:34:58 -0300
Subject: [lro] Labour Day Rally Update
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Just an update to let you all know about the progress of the Labour Day 
weekend rally. We've had to modify plans somewhat due to the dry conditions 
but we still have a great event planned. There will still be plenty of 
off-roading, great food, great prizes, other Land Rover enthusiasts and 
their Rovers, and even some scenic drives for those interested in seeing 
more of the area. We have finally started to recieve some rain this week so 
with any luck, there will be no restrictions in place by Labour Day weekend. 
Please read on.

LABOUR DAY RALLY

As many of you already know, the woods in Nova Scotia have been closed
by the Provincial Government due to the High to Extreme fire hazard.
This closure is in effect until September 15th unless we receive significant 
  rainfall.

Maybe there will be enough rain for the restrictions to be lifted, but, if 
not, we hope to obtain permission to use some of our picked trails, 
especially those that are marked as "public roads" - it may depend on 
Department of Natural Resources definition of a "maintained road", whether 
it means regularly graded, or that fallen trees across the trail are 
occasionally removed!
We are trying to arrange access to a suitable field for Rover Polo and in 
case we are not able to use our planned trails, John Cranfield, contacted on 
top of a mountain in Alberta in a J**p event, said that trails on his farm 
would be available, so off-roading is assured.

Maybe we will do some "on-roading" too.  Gerald expressed an interest in 
Digby Neck, Ben has never been there, and Niall wonders what it is!

There will also be good food and good company in a beautiful part of
Nova Scotia.

Leading up to Labour Day, your committee asks for your input:-
Please let us know any items you would like to see on the agenda for the 
MORE Annual General Meeting to be held at the Rally.

We are looking for nominations for the positions of President, Secretary and 
Treasurer, as elections will be held at the A.G.M.  Please nominate the 
candidates of your choice for any position; but we ask that you check with 
your candidates that they accept the nomminations before notifying the 
committee.

Please perform your favourite Rain Dances, with Extreme Vigour, to
encourage rain between now and the end of August

Labour Day Rally, August 31 - September 2 2001 at Winchester Farm
Cottages at Granville Beach, near Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia.

For further information or updates, please check the MORE website at
    www3.ns.sympatico.ca/design.fort/more

or e-mail Herbert at         [email-masked]
         or Niall at         [email-masked]
      or Matthias at         [email-masked]
           or Ben at         [email-masked]

M.O.R.E. - Maritime Organization of Rover Enthusiasts
[email-masked]
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/design.fort/more/

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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:56:33 -0400
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] TeriAnn's Wine Transport
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
[ If you guys would like an engineering project I have one for you.
[ How to keep the sediments in a bottle of 10+ yr old cab or marlot
[ from going back into suspension when offroading in a leafer LR.

Well, I wouldn't think that it would be impossible, though I should
think the solution is less complicated than the mobile wine centerfuge.

[Maybe a Land Rover coiler with a large complicated interior wine
[suspension system and the air conditioning set to 55 degrees F to be used
[as a dedicated mobile wine cellar?

I think large is correct, after-all, we are talking about rather large
bottles, however complicated, maybe not. Recently on the trip to Vermont,
I wanted some music, and my only CD playing boom box was a cheap Sony that
didn't have shock protection. No shock protection + leaf sprung rover =>
lots of drop-outs and skips.  So, of course, already being on the road, a
boom-box suspension system was improvised using materials at hand: bungie
cords.  The box was suspended from the center hoop, with a stay to the
rear so it wouldn't swing far forward. This prevent skips except for some
uphills (there was no constraint for rearward motion). Kind of like a
Neumann  http://www.neumann.com/grafik/start/microfon.jpg in it's elastic
suspension ring, or maybe a tv western scene where a hearse carriage was
used to transport a case of nitroglycerin (obviously before Mr. Nobel
arrived on the scene).

So if you fancy suspending a case of wine in a web of bungie cords in the
back of the green rover, it might just work... and toss in a cd player w/o
skip protection to monitor how well you suspension system is working.

Cheers,

Bill Caloccia     bill at caloccia.net    http://www.caloccia.net/wpc/

Science is the gathering of human knowledge.
Engineering is the practical application of human knowledge.
Art is the impractical application of human knowledge.

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Message: 18
From: "Herman Stude" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:29:40 -0500
Subject: [lro] On board refrigerators
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ms. Wakeman's discussion on taking care of wine on the trail parallels one
that I've been doing a little research on.

Does anyone have any good knowledge on on board 12V refrigerators like ARB
or Engel, etc.

Need to keep beer and baby food cool on the trail.
http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/refrigerator-freezer.html

http://www.i-m-d.com/engel/products.htm
Thanks

Herman Stude
1973 SIII 88
Topless in Texas

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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:28:34 +1000 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Removing Brake Drums
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> At 9:18 PM +0200 8/16/01, Christian Kiel wrote:
> >Ok, does anyone has a good working idea, how to remove the Brake Drums
> ...
> Assuming that you have already taken out the three screws.... you 
> have haven't you? ...
> take one of those screws and screw it into the hole that is not 
> countersunk.  That should back your drum out enough to get something 
> behind it to pry the drum off.

I once got trapped with a tight brake drum on a car because the
tapped hole in the drum had been fitted over a much larger hole
in the hub - nothing to press against.

Some emergency-stops got the drums hot, and thus expanded,
a quick jacking-up-and-wheel-off-job and the drum came off fairly
easily with minimal persuasion (wearing thick gloves against the heat).

I then took a thou' off the hole in the drum that fitted
over the rib in the hub, carefully so it was still snug and central,
so I'd have a better chance next time.

Lloyd

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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 01:42:23 +0200
From: jos de vries <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Rear Axle
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> > Are they
> > Limited slip?  I wonder what else I will find on it.
> To the best of my knowledge, no axles (Salisbury, ENV, Rover) installed at
> the factory had limited slips.
They did in 1974 -1975 for the belgium militairy, to compensate for the loss
of the front driven axle I suppose.

gr JOS
Jos de Vries
Delft, Holland
Land Rover 88 4x2 '75 LPG  'Marieke'

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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:40:51 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Rear Axle
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Rover offered a LSD or locker in the 60's but the unit apparently 
>was crap.  Have heard they blew up with very low mileage.  Did know 
>of a 109 that still had a working one in it.
>

Yup,  Had the optional one in the rear axle of my 67 88" and found it 
to be a real pain.   While I found it somewhat helpful in mud, it was 
very skittish on rough pavement.  That often caused the rear end to 
want to be in front in tight corners.  I finally got aggravated 
enough to swap the diffs putting the limited slip on front and the 
open in the rear.  That was a huge improvement... I only used the LSD 
when it was really needed.

       _
     / o\_         Gerald Mugele
    /   )-- \       [email-masked]
   /    |            Glen Ellen, CA
*** "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

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Message: 22
From: "KEITH ARMSTRONG" <[email-masked]>
To: "lro-digest" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:34:20 -0500
Subject: [lro] Re: Roof vents
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Doh!

Ok, I'm a dope.   I've been driving this thing for what, two years now.

When I stop and try to operate the roof vents when I'm not driving.....the
toe of the latch slips nicely into the little retaining lip...just like its
supposed to - and holds the darned thing open all be itself!

Yes....like TAW said, a little lube on the hingey bits and all work
smoothly...even when underway, and with one hand!

Thanks again to all,

Keith Armstrong
Des Moines, IA

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Message: 23
From: "Paul Quin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:22:35 -0700
Subject: [lro] CometCursor
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Be careful of Cometcursor, it's one of those nifty little spyware apps.  In
exchange for your fun little Rover cursor, it sends all of your surfing
habits back to it's central database...

Paul in Victoria.
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From: "Peter Halt" <[email-masked]>

Subject: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs

>
> For all you hard core Rover/ computer geeks out there
> like me, go to www.cometcursor.com, download the
> cursor program and get yourself a little green series
> Rover cursor under sports and leisure / autos.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> '64 Series IIA

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Message: 24
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Labour Day Rally Update
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 01:39:51 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Sorry for the double post. That was sent on Wednesday and when it didn't 
show up I posted again. I guess it just took the long way.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
--author unknown

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Message: 25
From: "Mark  Love" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] brake troubleshooting...
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:09:02 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Chris, another thing that will cause your problem is too little freeplay in the brake linkage. If
the master cyl piston doesn't return past the bleed port you have a very effective hydraulic jack
instead of a master cyl.       Mark Love

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Message: 26
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:39:56 -0400
From: Winn Bearden <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] USMC Mercedes?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

    I was driving by a place Friday that occasionally ships military stuff.
Usually see big army trucks and Humvees and even old Hueys staged there, but
as I passed it Fri. I caught a glimpse of what looked liked 110's sitting on
a flatbed.  I turned around and drove back.  The gate was unlocked, so I
drove around to where the trucks were and two good-ol-boy truckers were
getting ready to pull out with them, but they stopped to let me look at them.

    They were  Mercedes two-door soft tops that were shaped a lot like a
Defender.  In fact, the front axle was so similar to a LR axle, it would
probably bolt up to one.  If the axle didn't have a Daimler tag on it, I
would have sworn it was LR.  Swivel balls, coils, radius arms, etc, were
identical to LR. The rear axle was also similar, except the diff was
centered.  They were LHD, diesel, auto tranny, and selectible 2/4WD.  Each
was also sporting a brand new 15,000 Warn winch.
    They had USMC markings on them and shipping stickers said that they came
from Quantico!  All the truckers knew was that they were trucking them to
Cal., then they were to be shipped to Japan.  I took some pics but haven't
got them developed yet (left dig cam at home)
    Does anyone know about these trucks?  I'm curious.

--
Winn Bearden          19XX SIIa/SIII/RR 100" Hybrid
P.O. Box 464          1967 NADA 109" SW (in pieces)
Americus, GA 31709    1996 4.0 SE

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Message: 27
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:28:15 -0600
From: Ivan Van Laningham <[email-masked]>
Organization: God N Locomotive Works
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: LRO digest, Vol 1 #63 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi All--

Peter Halt wrote:
> 
> For all you hard core Rover/ computer geeks out there
> like me, go to www.cometcursor.com, download the
> cursor program and get yourself a little green series
> Rover cursor under sports and leisure / autos.

I went there, and got this:

> > You appear to be browsing with Netscape Version 4. We're sorry, this site is only compatible with
> Microsoft Windows computers running Internet Explorer 4.01 with SP2 or above. This site is not
> compatible with AOL or MSN browsers. You will be able to download the current version of the Comet
> Cursor if you return to this site using Internet Explorer and meet our system requirements as stated above.

<g>  Fat chance.

Metta,
Ivan
----------------------------------------------
Ivan Van Laningham
Symantec
http://www.pauahtun.org/
http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html
Army Signal Corps:  Cu Chi, Class of '70
Author:  Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours

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Message: 28
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:12:16 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] USMC Mercedes?
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

the sound like MB Gelandewagens.  the mil version of the super high dollar 
range rover/defender hybrid built by steyr puch out of austria.  later this 
year MB is going to be importing them and selling through dealer ships.  is 
this what you saw? http://www.clubgwagen.com/pic/mil.html

adam

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Message: 29
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:45:14 -0400
From: "M. Tompkins" <[email-masked]>
Organization: M&M Stained Glass
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] USMC Mercedes?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A lister was involved in the testing of the G-Wagons
for the Marine Corps. Not sure he is still subscribed though.

Cheers,
Mike

[email-masked] wrote:

> the sound like MB Gelandewagens.  the mil version of the super high dollar
> range rover/defender hybrid built by steyr puch out of austria.  later this
> year MB is going to be importing them and selling through dealer ships.  is
> this what you saw? http://www.clubgwagen.com/pic/mil.html
>
> adam

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Message: 30
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:00:10 +0200
To: [email-masked]
From: Harald Hansen <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] USMC Mercedes?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 22:39 25.08.01 -0400, Winn Bearden wrote:

[about Mercedeses in USMC livery]

>    Does anyone know about these trucks?  I'm curious.

Check out: 
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/wolf.htm

Harald

-- 
Harald Hansen                           #========#       1975 and 1976
SW engineer, strategy gamer, LR owner   |___|__|__\___     Land Rover
E-mail: harald74@online[DOT]no          |  _|  |   |_ |} Series III 109" 
        harald.hansen@kongsberg[DOT]com ""(_)""""""(_)"   Station Wagons

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