Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #61 - 41 msgs

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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 03:06:46 -0400 (EDT)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Whisky storage (Peter Monk)
   2. RE: Mid Atlantic Rally (Tackley, John)
   3. The male mind at work ([email-masked])
   4. Re: The male mind at work.... ([email-masked])
   5. Re: The male mind at work.... (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   6. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Phil Norris)
   7. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
   8. OT Womble - was Mid Atlantic Rally (Lance White)
   9. Re: OT Womble - was Mid Atlantic Rally (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
  10. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  11. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  12. RE: The male mind at work.... (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
  13. was:  the male mind, now:Booze (Simon J. Harding)
  14. Re: The male mind at work.... (Hope Peter)
  15. Re: was:  the male mind, now:Booze (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
  16. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  17. RE: was:  the male mind, now:Booze (Simon J. Harding)
  18. I'm off for awhile (Rob MacCormick)
  19. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  20. Fwd: Labour Day Rally Update (N Forbes)
  21. Re: The male mind at work.... (S. Vels)
  22. Simple solution to TeriAnn's problem (A. P. (Sandy) Grice)
  23. RE: [lro]now it's just Booze... (Tackley, John)
  24. beer cooler (William J. Rice)
  25. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Scott Wickham)
  26. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  27. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  28. RE: The redneck male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  29. On board refrigerators (Herman Stude)
  30. Re: On board refrigerators (Hope Peter)
  31. now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content (G. Mugele)
  32. RE: now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content (Simon J. Harding)
  33. RE: now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content (G. Mugele)
  34. Re: On board refrigerators (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  35. Re: now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content (M. Tompkins)
  36. Re: now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content (Hope Peter)
  37. Re: now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content ([email-masked])
  38. Re: now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content (Andrew H. Litkowiak)
  39. Re: now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content (Alex Maiolo)
  40. Re: now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content (David Scheidt)
  41. Re: now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content (David Scheidt)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:10:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Monk <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Whisky storage
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>From my childhood I can recall that a bottle of Jonny Walker Red Label
will keep quite well if stored in a thick woolen sock on the bulkhead in
front of the passenger.  The Whisky is then used to fortify the driver
and passengers each time a gate must be opened/closed while driving off
road (old Falkland Island tradition now perhaps dead due to the
introduction of roads).

Peter

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Message: 2
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:09:47 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Gentlemen:

Get all the details to dfate on ROAV's Mid Atlantic Rally (the "MAR")at:
http://www.roav.org

I cannot confirm, nor deny, the attendance of a famed UK journalist at this
year's MAR.    

;>)
;>)

JT/ric, 
(or rather, in this instance)

John Tackley, Member
ROAV Board of Directors and
MAR Planning Committee
Richmond, VA

Peter, et al asked:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BTW, when is the MAR?
Pete

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Message: 3
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:20:49 EDT
Subject: [lro] The male mind at work
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hurricane Mitch wrote:

<<There is a very simple solution to Teri-Anns drinking problem.  
1. Store bottles cork down, allowing the dregs to accumulate at the cork 
2. CO2 fire extinguisher blast to the bottle neck
3. upon uncorking the ice block containing the sediment and other impurities 
will be ejected from the bottle due to temp and pressure.>>

Been making home-brew Champaign, eh?

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover 109
Denver

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Message: 4
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:45:25 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

S. Vels at <[email-masked]> writes:

    > The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of 
> rope, a
> drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
> som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.
> I posted a small sketch at:
> 

Absolute genius!

Do they get the Red Green Show in Denmark?  
Probably refer to it as Educational TV.

Paul Donohue
1965 Land Rover 109
Denver

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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 01 07:23:06 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Frank Elson wrote:
> 
>> that explains why we drink so much of it here in the English Pennines -
>> that's the only sort of weather we get...
>
>A friend, whose vehicle I'm preparing for a long safari, flew in
>yesterday from London. He phones me yesterday afternoon and raves about
>blue skies for about 5 minutes. I'm confused. Does the sky come in any
>other colour?

Blue?  It is variable shades of gray, mostly light grays.  Every once in 
a while these blue clouds drift through.  Sometimes the sky is covered 
blue for a day or two.  But here on the coast the sky is gray.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 6
From: "Phil Norris" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:18:42 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Shouldn't that read " famed UK Womble-impersonator"??
Yours
Phil(now I've done it...)N
-----Original Message-----
From: Tackley, John <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
Date: 23 August 2001 14:11
Subject: RE: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally

>
>Gentlemen:
>
>Get all the details to dfate on ROAV's Mid Atlantic Rally (the "MAR")at:
>http://www.roav.org
>
>I cannot confirm, nor deny, the attendance of a famed UK journalist at this
>year's MAR.
>
>;>)
>;>)
>
>JT/ric,
>(or rather, in this instance)
>
>John Tackley, Member
>ROAV Board of Directors and
>MAR Planning Committee
>Richmond, VA
>
>Peter, et al asked:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>BTW, when is the MAR?
>Pete
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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:50:16 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Shouldn't that read " famed UK Womble-impersonator"??
>Yours
>Phil(now I've done it...)N

OK - I have heard the story - but :

WHAT THE F*** IS A WOMBLE!?!?!?!

                    ajr

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Message: 8
From: Lance White <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] OT Womble - was Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:58:26 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> >Shouldn't that read " famed UK Womble-impersonator"??
> >Yours
> >Phil(now I've done it...)N
> 
> OK - I have heard the story - but :
> 
> WHAT THE F*** IS A WOMBLE!?!?!?!
> 

Small furry creatures bumbling round Wimbledon Common (in London), picking
up litter.

see http://www.designwest.com/Johanna/womble/index.html

Cheers

Lance

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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [lro] OT Womble - was Mid Atlantic Rally
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:24:18 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Re: Womble:

>Small furry creatures bumbling round Wimbledon Common (in London), picking
>up litter.

Oh. Last time I was on Wimbledon Common the only things wandering about
picking up litter were bag ladies....though with some of them furry was a
definite possibility....8*)

               ajr

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Message: 10
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:38:23 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Since you are compiling a list, you should be aware of the synonym acronym OTD
or Of The Devil.  As in Suzuki Grand Vitaras and Honda CRVs are OTD.

Simon
-----Original Message-----
From:	Paul Oxley [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:25 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:

> Ok, I give, what is FTD

FTD = From The Devil ((c) Brian Cotton, ZA-LRO)

Typical usage is "Spare wheels mounted on safari doors are FTD.", "Lucas
electrics are FTD.", "Land-Rover dealers are FTD.", you get the idea?

We're compiling a list of FTD items to publish on the braaigrid.org.za
site as soon as someone has the time and energy to spare. I'll keep
y'all posted.

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com
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Message: 11
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:53:59 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jack Daniels Black Label Whiskey, not premixed with coke, but some do defile
it in that way themselves.  I'm not a big fan of JD.  I favor single malts
like Talisker, Cragganmore and Balvenie, but they somehow don't seem
appropriate to yanking a broken overdrive or making some other roadside
repair, and I never see single malts in flat pint bottles.  Not that I'd ever
drink and drive mind you.  Drink and repair yes, but not drink and drive.
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From:	Paul Oxley [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:19 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:

> I'm going to change the subject to try to cool things down  (pun intended).
I
 keep a half pint of Jack Daniels Black securely swaddled in bubble wrap
and
 Duct tape in my tool locker, along with spare belt, hoses and overdrive
 replacement kit, just in case of an emergency.  Don't leave home
without it.
> You never know when Strong Drink may be required.

Jack Black? As in the premix cola and bourbon stuff? What a waste of a
good sipping whisky...

However the basic idea has enormous merit. When all else fails a strong
drink is all that remains.

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com
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Message: 12
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:17:14 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Single malt, Jack in the Black,.....ack.

Please, you forget the true Water of Life....Jaimeson's. Preferably the
12-year-old stuff......

                         ajr

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Message: 13
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:17:41 -0700
Subject: [lro] was:  the male mind, now:Booze
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I hear Jameson's is only consumed by those who use limb risers.....(wink wink,
nudge).  Ok, I'll stop now.  Actually I like it, I just like the listed single
malts better.
Simon

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Message: 14
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:32:11 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Drink and repair yes
> Simon
Remind me to never ask Simon to fix anything on MY rover hahahahaha
Pete

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Message: 15
Subject: Re: [lro] was:  the male mind, now:Booze
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:40:45 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I hear Jameson's is only consumed by those who use limb risers.....(wink
wink,
nudge).

My limb doesn't need any help, thank you.....8*) Frank, you gonna let him
get away w/that?

Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.

                         ajr

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Message: 16
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:34:36 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hey a drink or two was instrumental in getting me through that Koenig debacle Peter!
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From:	Hope Peter [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:32 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

> Drink and repair yes
> Simon
Remind me to never ask Simon to fix anything on MY rover hahahahaha
Pete
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Message: 17
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] was:  the male mind, now:Booze
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:40:16 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Kidding,  I was kidding!

-----Original Message-----
From:	Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:41 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] was:  the male mind, now:Booze

I hear Jameson's is only consumed by those who use limb risers.....(wink
wink,
nudge).

My limb doesn't need any help, thank you.....8*) Frank, you gonna let him
get away w/that?

Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.

                         ajr
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:02:25 -0400
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: LRO list <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] I'm off for awhile
Reply-To: [email-masked]

8-23-01
With a bundle of assistance from Alan Richer and some encouragement and
information from others members on the list, Ive gotten to a point where
I can disembark on my 12 day sojourn comprised of a wedding a boat
building class and another wedding.....nearly all night to be spent
sleeping in the dorkmobile.......I've set the list to stop sending me
mail for a bit....Thanks cheers, and I'll type again when I return!

Rob MacCormick
Concord, MA USA
'68 "dor(k)mobile/gnathos/bitsa'/?" dormobile

Who knew autozone would have a $5.99 hydraulic switch for a '68
beetle????
PS Note to self: Add can of stale warm American beer to spares box....

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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:27:30 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> Blue?  It is variable shades of gray, mostly light grays.  Every once in
> a while these blue clouds drift through.  Sometimes the sky is covered
> blue for a day or two.  But here on the coast the sky is gray.

Oooer! Doesn't sound very appetising, does it? Up here at 2000m it's a
pretty blue.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 20
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:59:07 +0000
Subject: [lro] Fwd: Labour Day Rally Update
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>From: "M.O.R.E. Club" <[email-masked]>

>Just an update to let you all know about the progress of the Labour Day 
>weekend rally. We've had to modify plans somewhat due to the dry conditions 
>but we still have a great event planned. There will still be plenty of 
>off-roading, great food, great prizes, other Land Rover enthusiasts and 
>their Rovers, and even some scenic drives for those interested in seeing 
>more of the area. We have finally started to recieve some rain this week so 
>with any luck, there will be no restrictions in place by Labour Day 
>weekend. Please read on.
>
>
>LABOUR DAY RALLY
>
>As many of you already know, the woods in Nova Scotia have been closed
>by the Provincial Government due to the High to Extreme fire hazard.
>This closure is in effect until September 15th unless we receive 
>significant  rainfall.
>
>Maybe there will be enough rain for the restrictions to be lifted, but, if 
>not, we hope to obtain permission to use some of our picked trails, 
>especially those that are marked as "public roads" - it may depend on 
>Department of Natural Resources definition of a "maintained road", whether 
>it means regularly graded, or that fallen trees across the trail are 
>occasionally removed!
>We are trying to arrange access to a suitable field for Rover Polo and in 
>case we are not able to use our planned trails, John Cranfield, contacted 
>on top of a mountain in Alberta in a J**p event, said that trails on his 
>farm would be available, so off-roading is assured.
>
>Maybe we will do some "on-roading" too.  Gerald expressed an interest in 
>Digby Neck, Ben has never been there, and Niall wonders what it is!
>
>There will also be good food and good company in a beautiful part of
>Nova Scotia.
>
>Leading up to Labour Day, your committee asks for your input:-
>Please let us know any items you would like to see on the agenda for the 
>MORE Annual General Meeting to be held at the Rally.
>
>We are looking for nominations for the positions of President, Secretary 
>and Treasurer, as elections will be held at the A.G.M.  Please nominate the 
>candidates of your choice for any position; but we ask that you check with 
>your candidates that they accept the nomminations before notifying the 
>committee.
>
>Please perform your favourite Rain Dances, with Extreme Vigour, to
>encourage rain between now and the end of August
>
>Labour Day Rally, August 31 - September 2 2001 at Winchester Farm
>Cottages at Granville Beach, near Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia.
>
>For further information or updates, please check the MORE website at
>    www3.ns.sympatico.ca/design.fort/more
>
>or e-mail Herbert at         [email-masked]
>         or Niall at         [email-masked]
>      or Matthias at         [email-masked]
>           or Ben at         [email-masked]
>
>
>M.O.R.E. - Maritime Organization of Rover Enthusiasts
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:02:53 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[email-masked] wrote:

>
> Do they get the Red Green Show in Denmark?

No, not that i know of. But we get the show with two stupid tool gys, Tim Allen
and ??. Lots of inspiration in there.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:31:47 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Simple solution to TeriAnn's problem
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[email-masked] wrote:

>There is a very simple solution to Teri-Anns drinking problem.  
>1. store bottles cork down, alowing the dregs to accumulate at the cork.
>2. CO2 fire extinguisher blast to the bottle neck
>3. upon uncorking the ice block containing the sediment and other impurities 
>will be ejected from the bottle due to temp and pressure.
>4. Sit back and enjoy the fruit of the vine.

This is precisely the (old) method used to create champagne - the methode
champenoise - as the wine ferments a second time in the bottle to develop
the carbonation.  Actually did it at home, but had to use dry ice and
rubbing alcohol to create a slurry cold enough to freeze the neck of the
bottle and disgorge the sediment in the frozen plug.  Of course, prior to
that, the bottle had to be stored neck-down in a special rack for several
months, and given a quick twist every few days or so to concentrate the
sediments.

Actually, there is a practical solution to sediment in your wine.  Two
years ago, I was getting together with my college friends for a 30th
anniversary trip to the mountains.  In 1969, it was a case of beer, a can
of vienna saussage (ick...) and a sleeping bag; today, it is four wheel
drive, fine wines, beef Wellington....and cigars.  In order to get a couple
of bottles of 1969 vintage Beaulieu cab properly 'acclimated', my friend
took a trip several months ahead of time and burried several bottles in a
sack near where we would be camping (a cabin, actually).  The cool mountain
earth was the perfect 'cellar' temperature.  Prior to dinner, he took a
shovel and returned with 'treasure'.  The only drawback to this method is
that you have to take *two* trips to the mountains.  Ah, well....

Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>I'm going to change the subject to try to cool things down  (pun
intended).  I
>keep a half pint of Jack Daniels Black securely swaddled in bubble wrap and
>Duct tape in my tool locker, along with spare belt, hoses and overdrive
>replacement kit, just in case of an emergency.  Don't leave home without it.
>You never know when Strong Drink may be required.

Sounds like an old W. C. Fields bit.  Always carried a bottle in case of
snake bite.  Of course, he also carried a snake....

A votre sante....

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Message: 23
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:02:53 -0400
Subject: [lro] RE: [lro]now it's just Booze...
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A few years ago at the MAR, we had a single malt tasting tent...each
participant brought their favorite  bottle, labeled with their name, and we
passed them around, one at a time, one at a time, one ata tim,
1atatime...you get the idea.
I also brought a bottle of Jamesons, and I think it was Mike McCaig's father
who, when spying my bottle, shouted, in his best Sottish brouge, "Jamesons
is it?...'tis what I have on my cornflakes in da mornin...not what I
consider good sippin whiskey likes a single malt, but 'tis just fine on dem
flakes".
I think it was Glen Ord that won that night, but then I also semi-distinctly
remember my bed spinning around, after turning in a wee past midnight that
night...and I had as a youth been taught that when that happens, one should
extend their leg and drop one foot on the floor...stops the spinin you
see...but I was in a sleeping bag on the floor of my tent!!!...nowhere to
drop my foot, so I did the next best thing...I scrambled out of the tent in
a right sprightly fashion, and with both arms, tied myself to a tree for 20
minutes or so til the spinning ceased!

Amazingly, I still enjoy Glen Ord, to this very day!  And I often think I'll
try some Jamesons on my cornflakes in the morning...

JT/ric
Alan said:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My limb doesn't need any help, thank you.....8*) Frank, you gonna let him
get away w/that?

Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.

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Message: 24
To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:04:38 -0600
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] beer cooler
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Not specifically rover-related, but boy is this guy a kindred spirit:
http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

bill

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Message: 25
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:36:40 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

BTW, when is the MAR?
  1st weekend in Oct.

http://www.roav.org/

Scooter

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Message: 26
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:12:01 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:
 
> Since you are compiling a list, you should be aware of the synonym acronym OTD
> or Of The Devil.  As in Suzuki Grand Vitaras and Honda CRVs are OTD.
>> FTD = From The Devil ((c) Brian Cotton, ZA-LRO)

Hmm, obviously a closely related field of study...

:-{>}
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 27
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:26:20 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:
 
> Jack Daniels Black Label Whiskey, not premixed with coke, but some do > defile

Ahh! That sounds far more civilised. Almost fell off my perch when I saw
that 'they' were actually bottling JD and cola.

Also prefer the single malts though - particularly Glen Morangie. I find
a good easy drinking single at a very reasonable price is Glen Grant (I
can actually afford to serve it to friends at parties).

On a related and almost original topic: Very few red wines in this neck
of the woods can be found with sediment in suspension (since the early
80's and the introduction of micro-filters) - with the quite notable
exception of Rozendal Farm (an exceptional Burgundy blend mostly
marketed in Switzerland under the label 'Konstanz'). The winemaker
insists on NOT using new-fangled filtering so you still get to strain
the wine through your teeth and spit out the gritty bits. In any event,
the answer to TA's dilemma would be to only carry wines which do not
have crap in suspension :-{)}
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 28
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The redneck male mind at work....
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:06:07 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In keeping with my redneck white trash upringing, I've gotta ask:  why not
just drink the sediment down?  Full of vitamins, high in fiber!  By the time
you reach the bottom of the bottle, if you are alone, you won't notice the
difference, and if there are two of you, well, you just might have things
other than sediment in the bottle on your mind.......... Like checking the
grease - I mean oil - in the swivel hubs!
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From:	Paul Oxley [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:26 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:

> Jack Daniels Black Label Whiskey, not premixed with coke, but some do >
defile

Ahh! That sounds far more civilised. Almost fell off my perch when I saw
that 'they' were actually bottling JD and cola.

Also prefer the single malts though - particularly Glen Morangie. I find
a good easy drinking single at a very reasonable price is Glen Grant (I
can actually afford to serve it to friends at parties).

On a related and almost original topic: Very few red wines in this neck
of the woods can be found with sediment in suspension (since the early
80's and the introduction of micro-filters) - with the quite notable
exception of Rozendal Farm (an exceptional Burgundy blend mostly
marketed in Switzerland under the label 'Konstanz'). The winemaker
insists on NOT using new-fangled filtering so you still get to strain
the wine through your teeth and spit out the gritty bits. In any event,
the answer to TA's dilemma would be to only carry wines which do not
have crap in suspension :-{)}

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com
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Message: 29
From: "Herman Stude" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:29:18 -0500
Subject: [lro] On board refrigerators
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ms. Wakeman's discussion on taking care of wine on the trail parallels one
that I've been doing a little research on.

Does anyone have any good knowledge on on board 12V refrigerators like ARB
or Engel, etc.

Need to keep beer and baby food cool on the trail.
http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/refrigerator-freezer.html

http://www.i-m-d.com/engel/products.htm
Thanks

Herman Stude
1973 SIII 88
Topless in Texas

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Message: 30
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] On board refrigerators
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:34:58 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Friend has a 12vDC, 210AC, LPG run fridge he picked up in OZ.  Thing is
awsome.  Holds two cases of 12oz cans.  Can be set all the way down to
freezing.  He runs it plugged into the 12v from the vehicle until he stops
and sets up camp.  Then runs it off the LGP.  If you are also running LPG
for your cook top, this works great.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herman Stude" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:29
Subject: [lro] On board refrigerators

>
> Ms. Wakeman's discussion on taking care of wine on the trail parallels one
> that I've been doing a little research on.
>
> Does anyone have any good knowledge on on board 12V refrigerators like ARB
> or Engel, etc.
>
> Need to keep beer and baby food cool on the trail.
> http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/refrigerator-freezer.html
>
> http://www.i-m-d.com/engel/products.htm
> Thanks
>
> Herman Stude
> 1973 SIII 88
> Topless in Texas
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

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Message: 31
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:40:14 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 1:40 PM -0400 8/23/01, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
>Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
>single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
>spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.

since this group seems especially well qualified in knowledge of intoxicants:

On the subject of consuming lacquer thinner...  er... single malt.  I 
am not really much of a fan but I have acquired a bottle of the stuff 
that I suspect must be pretty good... I say this based on the hand 
signed (in ball point pen) signatures of those involved in the 
production.  Does any one know anything about some stuff called The 
Glenrothes?  It is a "single Speyside malt"

In answer to your next question: I had house guests earlier this year 
from the northeast of Scotland and they presented me with this 
"golden nectar."

       _
     / o\_         Gerald Mugele
    /   )-- \       [email-masked]
   /    |            Glen Ellen, CA
*** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks 
you take."   ~ Adlai Stevenson 

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Message: 32
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:40:33 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Gerry:  I'd have to taste it (a good 1/4 bottle)  to be sure, but I think
that's pretty good scotch.  Sounds like you might have a very rare run/year
indeed.  I've never tasted it so can't be sure and taste is subjective, and it
might be that what you have was not/is not available here.  Also, single malts
vary (I think widely) in quality with age.  Someone here mentiond Glen Ord as
a good single malt.  I had a guy give me a bottle as a thank you for helping
him move and I tasted it once.  Since then I've only used it to start my
Weber, but some guys love it and might hate the scotches I like.  A guy named
Michael Jackson (seriously)  has written what I think is a pretty good book
rating single malt scotches.  You might see if you can find it in a bookstore
and look up your scotch, as he includes some pretty pricey/rare vintages.  I
have it at home and if you want, you can call me there and I'll be happy to
tell you what he says (assuming I can find the book!)  Mail me offlist and
I'll give you my number.

-----Original Message-----
From:	G. Mugele [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:40 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	[lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content

At 1:40 PM -0400 8/23/01, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
>Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
>single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
>spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.

since this group seems especially well qualified in knowledge of intoxicants:

On the subject of consuming lacquer thinner...  er... single malt.  I
am not really much of a fan but I have acquired a bottle of the stuff
that I suspect must be pretty good... I say this based on the hand
signed (in ball point pen) signatures of those involved in the
production.  Does any one know anything about some stuff called The
Glenrothes?  It is a "single Speyside malt"

In answer to your next question: I had house guests earlier this year
from the northeast of Scotland and they presented me with this
"golden nectar."

       _
     / o\_         Gerald Mugele
    /   )-- \       [email-masked]
   /    |            Glen Ellen, CA
*** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks
you take."   ~ Adlai Stevenson
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Message: 33
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:57:15 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Gerry:  I'd have to taste it (a good 1/4 bottle)  to be sure, but I think
>that's pretty good scotch.

Well you might have to bring that 109 down through the Manzanita 
infested hills of Mendocino county to try a sip.

>Sounds like you might have a very rare run/year
>indeed.  I've never tasted it so can't be sure and taste is subjective, and it
>might be that what you have was not/is not available here.

It is VERY smooth.  but as I said I'm not much of an affectionado of 
these thing.  Actually up until 1999 I'd never even had one I liked 
at all.  I was in East Lothian, staying at Carberry Tower, a 600 year 
old castle, and a friend ( a Scot through and through) offered my 
some whiskey.  I offended him by declining and compounded the act by 
elaborating on my distaste for Scotch.  He then insisted that I 
really hadn't had any decent single malt so how the bloody hell would 
I know whether or not I like the stuff.  He then poured a tiny taste 
from three bottles into three different glasses and asked my opinion 
of each.  He seemed to know which I would prefer and was not 
particularly upset with my not exactly liking any of them.  He went 
to the basement and brought back a bottle which had obviously never 
been opened and poured me largish glass.  I was told to sniff it and 
then take a healthy mouthful.  I had to admit that I rather liked the 
stuff.  It was something call Knockando and was something like 29 
years old.  It is good stuff but I shudder to think what it might 
cost over here.

>Also, single malts
>vary (I think widely) in quality with age.  Someone here mentiond Glen Ord as
>a good single malt.  I had a guy give me a bottle as a thank you for helping
>him move and I tasted it once.  Since then I've only used it to start my
>Weber, but some guys love it and might hate the scotches I like.

When I emailed him about the Glenrothes he said that given my taste 
I'd prefer the Knockando  and he was right.  Although, to be fair, I 
have not had an opportunity to try 'em side by side.  He wouldn't say 
anymore about it because "Drrrinkin' whiskey is a PERRRsonl thing, 
only yerrr da one can tell once yer've tasted whatcha like."   I took 
that to mean something like I tell my field ornithology students: 
Buying binoculars is like buying underwear... you're the only one 
that can tell what feels right and does what you want.

>A guy named
>Michael Jackson (seriously)  has written what I think is a pretty good book
>rating single malt scotches.

Would that be the white woman pop singer or the british guy that 
wrote the definitive book on beers?

>You might see if you can find it in a bookstore
>and look up your scotch, as he includes some pretty pricey/rare vintages.  I
>have it at home and if you want, you can call me there and I'll be happy to
>tell you what he says (assuming I can find the book!)  Mail me offlist and
>I'll give you my number.
>

Well you inspired me to research it a bit more and I found some 
interesting sites.  Check this:
http://store.yahoo.com/randalls/pa36004.html

That IS the bottle, complete with all the scribbling on the label. 
The bottle comes in a cylinder with an equally tasteful packaging. 
Pretty impressive stuff I guess.  Interesting that the don't seem to 
list a price or offer it for sale

       _
     / o\_         Gerald Mugele
    /   )-- \       [email-masked]
   /    |            Glen Ellen, CA
*** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks 
you take."   ~ Adlai Stevenson 

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Message: 34
Subject: Re: [lro] On board refrigerators
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 01 15:18:18 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Does anyone have any good knowledge on on board 12V refrigerators like ARB
>or Engel, etc.

I have a Norcold Refrigerator which is the same as the ARB under the 
paint.

I've been useing it for 4 years now.  Runs great, & no complaints.  It 
has been bounced around as much as any tied down object in a off road 
series rig.

It is quiet enough to sleep by, sturdy enough to be used a the step to 
climb up into bed. I can go 3 days on a group 24 battery in 90 degree 
plus weather & still have cold food and enough power in the pump to run 
the water pump so it is easy on power. 

It can be used as a freezer in any weather.  I've given thought to 
bringing food in an ice chest on a summer desert run and have the 
refrigerator turned up to freezer mode and offering ice cream about 3 
days into a summer desert trip when my cooler runs out of ice.

The nice thing about a frige is that you do not deal with ice and the 
stuff catually stayes cooler than an ice chest will keep it.

The electic ice chest conversions tend to be power hogs and often can not 
do better than 40 ddegrees below ambient. which at 100 degrees outside 
puts your food at 60 degrees.

real refigreators are pricy to get into but I personally think it was 
money very well spent.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 35
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:47:47 -0400
From: "M. Tompkins" <[email-masked]>
Organization: M&M Stained Glass
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Does any one know anything about some stuff called The
> Glenrothes?  It is a "single Speyside malt"

Glenrothes is my favorite single malt. In fact I just came
home with a bottle tonight, distilled in 1989, cost was
US$56.95.
Glenrothes is from the Speyside district in the Highlands
region. It has only been showcased as a single malt for
about the past ten years. It is not one of those 12,
15, 18, or 30 year scotches. A single malt has not been
produced every year and has not been bottled on a
set schedule, hence not marketed as a 12, 15, 18, or 30
year scotch. This accounts for the price which is based
on supply and demand. In my travels, I've only found
two liquor stores that had any on their shelves. One place
had one bottle the other two.
As far as I know the available single malts were distilled in
1972, 1979, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1987, and 1989.
These were bottled in
1996, 1994, 1997, 1996, 1997, 1999, and 2000. Doing
the math you can see there has not be a standard formula
applied to bottling, so you end up with different aged
single malts. Don't get fooled by the older is better. This
may be true for those distillers like Macallan that constantly
produce 10, 12, 15, 18 and 30 year single malts, but this
is not true for a producer like Glenrothes, in fact the 1989
is only an 11-year old single malt, yet ranks higher in tastings
against all the other Glenrothes single malts. Ok, so what
happened to the scotch distilled at Glenrothes during
the years that are not represented by single malt bottlings?
It gets blended with other scotch to produce Cutty Sark.
Glenrothes and Cuty Sark are produced by the same
company, Berry Brothers and Rudd. A bit of history,
the firm originally sold tea, groceries and wine starting in
the 1690s, they launched Cutty Sark around 1920 and
named it after the Scottish-built fast tea clipper of the
same name.

Sorry for the long post. I can be a bit passionate about
single malt.

Cheers,
Mike
'66 Hybrid Coiler 109" SW
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/

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Message: 36
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:27:49 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

This message header is driving me nuts.
I work for Booze-Allen, so everytime a message comes in with this header I
think it's work related.
hahahaha
Pete

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Message: 37
From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:27:19 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 8/23/2001 7:52:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

<< Sorry for the long post. I can be a bit passionate about
 single malt. >>

Ah the single malt. My wife and I stopped by the Gen-X liquor store about 2 
months ago and could not find but a few single malts.  They had a huge wall 
of vodka however.  Kiddingly, my wife asked what happened to the single malt 
selection and the guy (probably a wine guy) said "Oh, you know they've gone 
out of fashion"  To which my  wife sez "I guess Vodka is the hot item now"

He replies (I'm not joking here)  "No, actually the really hot liquor is 
premium tequila."

My wife and I looked at each other and burst out laughing.

Nate (what an oxymoron--"premium tequila" not the liquor guy)

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Message: 38
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:35:28 -0500
From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[email-masked] wrote:

> He replies (I'm not joking here)  "No, actually the really hot liquor is
> premium tequila."
> 
> My wife and I looked at each other and burst out laughing.
> 
> Nate (what an oxymoron--"premium tequila" not the liquor guy)

Actually, he's right. There are now tequila's being produced that
fetch hundreds of dollars per bottle. Guys pay $30-$60 a glass to
experience the class.

I won't claim to understand it, but it is the truth.

Andy Litkowiak

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Message: 39
From: "Alex Maiolo" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:19:17 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Glenrothes, or Glen Rothes (oddly enough, it can be written both ways...)
gets serious props for being a malt that drinks incredibly well while young.
That's cool with me, because my favorite malt is Springbank 12yr.
The 25 is great, but I prefer the younger, and one can procure two bottles
of the 12 for the price of one bottle of 25. What can I say, I'm a cheap
date.
Anyway Glenrothes, as it's usually known, has no date on the bottle because
it's blended from many years. In fact, blenders are reputed to admire this
malt and consider it one of theirs. Brew from this house is also used in
Berry Bros/Rudd blends, one of which is Cutty Sark, I think. I'm pretty sure
they're tied in with Glenlivet in some way too.
The one you have sounds like the 1979 (bottled in 1994) model. I hear this
stuff carries a stiff price tag. That's the only one I'm aware of that has
the handwritten label, unless it's a Cadenhead special selection that I've
never heard of.

It's, as you say, a Speyside.
The River Spey probably has the most classic distilleries of any of the
Scottish rivers. Some others you might have heard of from the Spey region:
Glentaucher, Knockando, Craggenmore, (the very famous) Macallen,
Miltonduff,Glenlivet, Balvenie (mmmmmm.....Bal-veeee-neeee), and I know it's
hard to believe, but Glen Spey and Speyburn are from the Spey region. Many
more, but these are a few biggies.

One of life's cruel fates is that all of these distilleries are along a
great *drive*, and the fishing is some of the most classic in the world.
So, as you can imagine, drinking lots of malt and driving
-or-
Dinking lots of malt and hanging out at McFishing Hole
...are two ways to end up dead. On my list of ways to end up dead, something
involving the above activities would be at the top of the list, however.

My plan for the next time I'm up there?:
Get up, fish, drive to a couple of distilleries, walk to a B&B.
Rinse, Repeat (daily).

Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

>
> At 1:40 PM -0400 8/23/01, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
> >Seriously, though - it's a personal; taste issue. There are some lovely
> >single-malt irish whiskies you don't find anywhere but there....and i've
> >spent many  a happy evening in pubs in Eire trying to reduce the supply.
>
> since this group seems especially well qualified in knowledge of
intoxicants:
>
> On the subject of consuming lacquer thinner...  er... single malt.  I
> am not really much of a fan but I have acquired a bottle of the stuff
> that I suspect must be pretty good... I say this based on the hand
> signed (in ball point pen) signatures of those involved in the
> production.  Does any one know anything about some stuff called The
> Glenrothes?  It is a "single Speyside malt"
>
> In answer to your next question: I had house guests earlier this year
> from the northeast of Scotland and they presented me with this
> "golden nectar."

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Message: 40
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:22:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question - no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 [email-masked] wrote:

:
:In a message dated 8/23/2001 7:52:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
:[email-masked] writes:
:
:<< Sorry for the long post. I can be a bit passionate about
: single malt. >>
:
:Ah the single malt. My wife and I stopped by the Gen-X liquor store about 2
:months ago and could not find but a few single malts.  They had a huge wall
:of vodka however.  Kiddingly, my wife asked what happened to the single malt
:selection and the guy (probably a wine guy) said "Oh, you know they've gone
:out of fashion"  To which my  wife sez "I guess Vodka is the hot item now"

That means more for the rest of us.  Nothing wrong with that.
:
:He replies (I'm not joking here)  "No, actually the really hot liquor is
:premium tequila."
:
:My wife and I looked at each other and burst out laughing.
:
:Nate (what an oxymoron--"premium tequila" not the liquor guy)

There are some shockingly expensive tequilas.  Some of them are supposed to
be quite good, but as tequila is one of the few forms of alcohol that I
don't enjoy (the thought of drinking it makes me gag), I don't have an
opinion.  I've been told that quite a lot of tequila isn't really tequila.
Agave prices have gone way up, and as a result some producers are cutting
the product with neutral grain spirits.
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Message: 41
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:42:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] now:Booze question -   no Land Rover Content
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Alex Maiolo wrote:

:
:Glenrothes, or Glen Rothes (oddly enough, it can be written both ways...)
:gets serious props for being a malt that drinks incredibly well while young.
:That's cool with me, because my favorite malt is Springbank 12yr.
:The 25 is great, but I prefer the younger, and one can procure two bottles
:of the 12 for the price of one bottle of 25. What can I say, I'm a cheap
:date.
:Anyway Glenrothes, as it's usually known, has no date on the bottle because
:it's blended from many years. In fact, blenders are reputed to admire this

If the producer isn't claiming it's the prodcut of a given year, and is just
claiming an age, it can be a blend of multiple years.  The age stated on the
bottle is the minimum age of its constitutant whiskeys.  This is quite
common among the big producers, who are interested in making sure that every
batch of the 10 year old tastes the same.  If it's harsher than expected,
they'll add it an older stock to it.

:malt and consider it one of theirs. Brew from this house is also used in
:Berry Bros/Rudd blends, one of which is Cutty Sark, I think. I'm pretty sure
:they're tied in with Glenlivet in some way too.
:The one you have sounds like the 1979 (bottled in 1994) model. I hear this
:stuff carries a stiff price tag. That's the only one I'm aware of that has
:the handwritten label, unless it's a Cadenhead special selection that I've
:never heard of.

If it's "The Glen Rothes", it's not a cadenhead.  The "The whatever"
application means it's the prodcut of the distillery.  Otherwise, the
distillers often sell the unaged whiskey to folks like Cadenhead, who do
things like producing single cask lots, where the contents of the bottle are
all from the same cask; special ages, where they age it longer than the
distillery is willing to; non-standard strengths  -- scotch is aged in casks
at the strength it's distilled to, and usually watered before bottling--
cadenhead, signatory et al sometimes produce cask strength (130 proof or
so); and special casked aging, where they age the
whiskey in something like a used port, sherry, or bourbon cask, or two or
more of these.  There are a number of distelleries who don't produce a
single malt of their own, but sell all of their production to others.  Most
of this ends up in blends, but some of the resultant single malts are really
quite nice.

David,
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