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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: The male mind at work.... (Ivan Van Laningham)
   2. RE: The male mind at work.... (Matt Peckham)
   3. RE: The male mind at work.... (Easton Trevor A)
   4. RE: The male mind at work.... (Tate Crumbley)
   5. The male mind at work ([email-masked])
   6. RE: The male mind at work (Easton Trevor A)
   7. Re: The male mind at work (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
   8. RE: The male mind at work.... (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   9. RE: The male mind at work.... (Matt Peckham)
  10. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  11. Solex Choke Cable tension? (Rick Grant)
  12. Re: Solex Choke Cable tension? (Hope Peter)
  13. Re: The male mind at work.... (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  14. Re: The male mind at work.... (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  15. Re: The male mind at work.... (S. Vels)
  16. RE: The male mind at work.... (Bryan Hoult)
  17. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  18. RE: The male mind at work.... (Matt Peckham)
  19. RE: The male mind at work.... (RON WARD)
  20. RE: The male mind at work.... (Easton Trevor A)
  21. RE: The male mind at work.... (CW - Carey Woodings)
  22. RE: The male mind at work.... (Matt Peckham)
  23. RE: The male mind at work.... (RON WARD)
  24. Re: The male mind at work.... (Ivan Van Laningham)
  25. Re: The male mind at work.... (Rob MacCormick)
  26. Re: The male mind at work.... (S. Vels)
  27. Re: The male mind at work.... (S. Vels)
  28. Re: The male mind at work.... (S. Vels)
  29. Re: The male mind at work.... (Hope Peter)
  30. Re: The male mind at work.... (Hope Peter)
  31. RE: The male mind at work.... (CW - Carey Woodings)
  32. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Frank Elson)
  33. Re: Frank, was Mid Atlantic Rally (Frank Elson)
  34. Re: The male mind at work.... (Frank Elson)
  35. Re: The male mind at work.... (Frank Elson)
  36. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  37. RE: The male mind at work.... (Simon J. Harding)
  38. Re: The male mind at work.... (Jim Hall)
  39. Steering lock problem (Colin Clegg)
  40. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Scott Wickham)
  41. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Scott Wickham)
  42. Re: The male mind at work.... (Peter Ogilvie)
  43. Re: Mid Atlantic Rally (Hope Peter)
  44. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  45. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)
  46. Re: The male mind at work.... (Paul Oxley)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:38:44 -0600
From: Ivan Van Laningham <[email-masked]>
Organization: God N Locomotive Works
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi All--

Paul Oxley wrote:
> 
> "Simon J. Harding" wrote:
> >
> >  Except Guiness is best warmish.
> 
> Heresy! Warm beer (anything NOT icy cold) is FTD.
> 

Now, Guinness _Draught_ may be a different animal than Guinness _Stout_,
but even I know that stout is best drunk at 40 degrees F.  The drink,
not the drinker.  If it's colder than that, you lose the complex flavors
and aromas that give stout its character.  Americans, of course, prefer
characterless beer, except for a few of us who have been exposed to the
finer things in life.  One of those finer things is Guinness stout at
the proper temperature.

I've been sober 24 years, but I've not forgotten.

Metta,
Ivan
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Message: 2
From: Matt Peckham <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:38:13 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Return of the Jedi.  The endor stormtrooper bike scene.

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From: CW - Carey Woodings [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 3:42 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

[TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
[ If you guys would like an engineering project I have one for you.
[ How to keep the sediments in a bottle of 10+ yr old cab or marlot
[ from going back into suspension when offroading in a leafer LR.

Find a surplus "Steady-Cam" as used by movie-makers.  They've been around a 
while, should be some used ones out there.  Mount your wine rack where the 
camera should go.

Anybody remember the first movie filmed with a Steady-Cam?

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Message: 3
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:47:23 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

But then the sediment will deposit at cork AND bottom. The bottles must be
suspended so that they hang in the normal position and swing outwards from
the axix when the unit spins. Just like the test tubes in a lab. centrifuge.

> No, I'm talking about spinning it the long way, the other axis.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:01:47 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: Tate Crumbley <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

But if the sediment is already out of solution, sitting at the bottom 
(which seemed to be the initial status) then it wouldn't deposit at the 
cork end when spun. It should work, but it still seems like a more 
difficult proposition because of the variety of shapes of wine bottles and 
the different positions of the center of mass making a balanced spin a more 
difficult task. Perhaps you'd just have to take the bottles to a tire shop 
to have them balanced before leaving. :-)

Tate

At 08:47 AM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote:

>But then the sediment will deposit at cork AND bottom. The bottles must be
>suspended so that they hang in the normal position and swing outwards from
>the axix when the unit spins. Just like the test tubes in a lab. centrifuge.
>
>
>
> > No, I'm talking about spinning it the long way, the other axis.
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Message: 5
To: [email-masked]
From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:27:01 GMT
Subject: [lro] The male mind at work
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Listers;

There is a very simple solution to Teri-Anns drinking problem.  
1. store bottles cork down, alowing the dregs to accumulate at the cork.
2. CO2 fire extinguisher blast to the bottle neck
3. upon uncorking the ice block containing the sediment and other impurities 
will be ejected from the bottle due to temp and pressure.
4. Sit back and enjoy the fruit of the vine.

Hurricane Mitch

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Message: 6
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:31:19 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Brilliant, but altogether too simple :-)

> Listers;
> 
> There is a very simple solution to Teri-Anns drinking problem.  
> 1. store bottles cork down, alowing the dregs to accumulate at the cork.
> 2. CO2 fire extinguisher blast to the bottle neck
> 3. upon uncorking the ice block containing the sediment and other
> impurities 
> will be ejected from the bottle due to temp and pressure.
> 4. Sit back and enjoy the fruit of the vine.
> 
> Hurricane Mitch

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Message: 7
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:36:27 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Mitch, you have just recreated part of the methode champenoise - the
technique originally used to create sparking wines  (like champagne, for
the grape-illiterates.....).

      aj"Use straight CO2 from an inverted gas bottle - less mess"r

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Message: 8
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 01 07:39:12 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>How about spinning each bottle around it's own central axis, that way
>you would cut down greatly on the rotational mass,

This would play great in an issue of Wine Spectator 8*)

I can see it now "Wine and the Land Rover offroad lifestyle"

The problem as I see it with older wine is not to disturb it or minimally 
disturb it.  Did I mention that we would also like to keep it at a 55 
degrees F?

So far the M1 tank gun mount sounds like the best solution you guys have 
some up with but if the bugs can be worked out about retrieving the wine 
from the portable black hole it too shows promise.

Maybe a Land Rover coiler with a large complicated interior wine 
suspension system and the air conditioning set to 55 degrees F to be used 
as a dedicated mobile wine cellar?

So far the biggest problems I have seen with some of these interesting 
innovative solutions is that  they are big, take up a lot of interior 
space and that many spin at seemingly high rates of speed.  I worry about 
my poor puppy getting whacked a good one on is poor noggin.

TeriAnn & O'Malley (Born Feb 2001)

  http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/Omalley.htm

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Message: 9
From: Matt Peckham <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:47:49 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

my jello idea was too messy, huh?  I bet it would have good insulation
effects...maybe best is to stand the bottles on their noses, witha loose
ring around their bases, to allow for some lateral mvement, but not much,
and suspend the container from the floor with 4 bilsteins.  any jolt should
be absorbed if the shocks are soft enough, and the rebound would be easy...
as for regulating the temperature... that's a hard one, unless you have a
fluid transfer system rotating through.

-----Original Message-----
From: TeriAnn Wakeman [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:39 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....

>How about spinning each bottle around it's own central axis, that way
>you would cut down greatly on the rotational mass,

This would play great in an issue of Wine Spectator 8*)

I can see it now "Wine and the Land Rover offroad lifestyle"

The problem as I see it with older wine is not to disturb it or minimally 
disturb it.  Did I mention that we would also like to keep it at a 55 
degrees F?

So far the M1 tank gun mount sounds like the best solution you guys have 
some up with but if the bugs can be worked out about retrieving the wine 
from the portable black hole it too shows promise.

Maybe a Land Rover coiler with a large complicated interior wine 
suspension system and the air conditioning set to 55 degrees F to be used 
as a dedicated mobile wine cellar?

So far the biggest problems I have seen with some of these interesting 
innovative solutions is that  they are big, take up a lot of interior 
space and that many spin at seemingly high rates of speed.  I worry about 
my poor puppy getting whacked a good one on is poor noggin.

TeriAnn & O'Malley (Born Feb 2001)

  http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/Omalley.htm
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Message: 10
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:01:30 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ok, I give, what is FTD (other than a flower delivery service here in the
states)?  And let me backpedal by saying I drink Guiness about as often as I
shave my toe hairs.  I prefer an Ice Cold local microbrewed ale, or even a can
of Busch (a lemonade like nasty Budweiser beer).

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From:	Paul Oxley [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:41 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:
>
>  Except Guiness is best warmish.

Heresy! Warm beer (anything NOT icy cold) is FTD.

Regards

Paul Oxley
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:33:48 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: Rick Grant <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Solex Choke Cable tension?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ever since I foolishly lubricated the choke cable on my Solex carb I've 
been having a problem with the choke coming on slowly during anything more 
than a half hour run.  Is there a way of increasing the tension so the 
choke stays closed?  I wish I'd left it alone in the first place but that 
day I had the WD40 out and I just couldn't stop spraying things.

                                             Rick Grant

  				  1959 Series II   "88"
				  VORIZO

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Calgary Ottawa
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Message: 12
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Solex Choke Cable tension?
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:34:51 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

A stronger return spring?

Have never had a solex, so don't know if this is possible.

Pete

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Message: 13
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 01 08:23:46 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>12 pack in a Playmate cooler works for me.

Ah a whole case instead of half a case.  And the cooler to keep it at 
storage and drinking temperature.  OK.

So far my solution has just been to bring wines that prefer to be 
consumed young and thus are a bit more rugged.

So instead of:
>The goal is to bring  along one bottle each of: Petite Sirah, Cabernet
>Sauvignon, Merlot, Zinfandel, Southern Rhone Chateauneuf-Du-Pape, Chianti
>Classico Reserva.

The mix looks more like:
Zinfandel, Southern Rhone Cotes du Rhone-Villages, Montage, Beaujolais, 
Chianti Classico

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

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Message: 14
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 01 08:23:48 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>TeriAnn, I second Alan R's idea. Whiskey is much easier to store. And, in
>the case of Bruce Fowler's notoriously evil-looking Yukon Jack, it can be
>used as paint stripper, starting fluid, campstove fuel...

Only problem is I don't like the taste of Whiskey.  Generally distilled 
beverages must be very well disguised before I can enjoy it (like a 
strawberry daiquiri).  My throat refuses to open to let me swallow 
Scotch.  It is convinced I'm trying to kill it with paint thinner or some 
such solvent.

But I do enjoy many wines, ales, stouts and some porters. So when I'm out 
in the field for a week or more I like to bring an assortment to go with 
what I'm cooking for dinner that evening.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:28:29 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of rope, a
drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.

I posted a small sketch at:

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 16
Date: 22 Aug 2001 09:32:58 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Bryan Hoult <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Wed, 22 August 2001, "Simon J. Harding" wrote:

> 
> .....or even a can
> of Busch (a lemonade like nasty 
> Budweiser beer).
> 

All a growing boy needs, a sixer of Busch or Busch Light!  I savor it even more when I get it on sale.  (yes, I'm dead serious).  However, my favorite, when I can afford it, is Guiness.  I think its an acquired taste, but it is quite good, especially in damp, coolish weather.

Bryan

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Message: 17
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:33:17 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

(in Homer Simpson voice)  Mmmmmmm  Busch Light........
You are a sick man, Bryan.  Either that or you are so Rover-Broke, Busch is
all you can afford!

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Sent:	Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:33 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	RE: [lro] The male mind at work....

On Wed, 22 August 2001, "Simon J. Harding" wrote:

>
> .....or even a can
> of Busch (a lemonade like nasty
> Budweiser beer).
>

All a growing boy needs, a sixer of Busch or Busch Light!  I savor it even
more when I get it on sale.  (yes, I'm dead serious).  However, my favorite,
when I can afford it, is Guiness.  I think its an acquired taste, but it is
quite good, especially in damp, coolish weather.

Bryan

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Message: 18
From: Matt Peckham <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:14:25 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

wow.  that's a pretty good setup... now if only all days were a perfect 55
degrees...  How about a hood mounted setup?

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: S. Vels [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:28 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of rope, a
drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.

I posted a small sketch at:

http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg

rgds
sv/aurens
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:23:36 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

But won't the fluid slosh in the bottle regardless of the movement of the container?  Especially with any air trapped in the bottle?

Ron "Boone's Farm" Ward

>>> [email-masked] 08/22/01 10:39AM >>>

>How about spinning each bottle around it's own central axis, that way
>you would cut down greatly on the rotational mass,

This would play great in an issue of Wine Spectator 8*)

I can see it now "Wine and the Land Rover offroad lifestyle"

The problem as I see it with older wine is not to disturb it or minimally 
disturb it.  Did I mention that we would also like to keep it at a 55 
degrees F?

So far the M1 tank gun mount sounds like the best solution you guys have 
some up with but if the bugs can be worked out about retrieving the wine 
from the portable black hole it too shows promise.

Maybe a Land Rover coiler with a large complicated interior wine 
suspension system and the air conditioning set to 55 degrees F to be used 
as a dedicated mobile wine cellar?

So far the biggest problems I have seen with some of these interesting 
innovative solutions is that  they are big, take up a lot of interior 
space and that many spin at seemingly high rates of speed.  I worry about 
my poor puppy getting whacked a good one on is poor noggin.

TeriAnn & O'Malley (Born Feb 2001)

  http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/Omalley.htm 
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Message: 20
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:34:20 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Good, but the axis has to be vertical and the bottles mounted in swinging
containers. If not the sediment remixes in the non vertical bottles when the
unit is stopped.
I wouldn't want to rely on the neck of the bottle to support the rest at
high rpm/g levels either.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	S. Vels [SMTP:[email-masked]]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:28 PM
> To:	[email-masked]
> Subject:	Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
> 
> 
> The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of rope,
> a
> drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
> som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.
> 
> I posted a small sketch at:
> 
> http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg
> 
> rgds
> sv/aurens
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Message: 21
From: "CW - Carey Woodings" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:45:17 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[ Anybody remember the first movie filmed with a Steady-Cam?
[ Matt Peckham guessed
[ Return of the Jedi.  The endor stormtrooper bike scene.

It had been around a few years by then.  It was first used in 1976 to follow 
an actor on a jogging scene through city streets, a park, and up a large 
flight of steps.  Does this give it away?

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Message: 22
From: Matt Peckham <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:46:56 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rocky?

gotta be rocky.

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From: CW - Carey Woodings [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:45 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....

[ Anybody remember the first movie filmed with a Steady-Cam?
[ Matt Peckham guessed
[ Return of the Jedi.  The endor stormtrooper bike scene.

It had been around a few years by then.  It was first used in 1976 to follow

an actor on a jogging scene through city streets, a park, and up a large 
flight of steps.  Does this give it away?

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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:56:56 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rocky

>>> [email-masked] 08/22/01 01:45PM >>>

[ Anybody remember the first movie filmed with a Steady-Cam?
[ Matt Peckham guessed
[ Return of the Jedi.  The endor stormtrooper bike scene.

It had been around a few years by then.  It was first used in 1976 to follow 
an actor on a jogging scene through city streets, a park, and up a large 
flight of steps.  Does this give it away?

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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:07:48 -0600
From: Ivan Van Laningham <[email-masked]>
Organization: Symantec
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi All--

"S. Vels" wrote:
> 
> The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of rope, a
> drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
> som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.
> 
> I posted a small sketch at:
> 
> http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg
> 

Ingenious, but sufficient RPMs to develop sediment-trapping centrifugal
force will also develop sufficient torgue to pop that baby right over on
the least deviation from dead flat.  Maybe you could install a
counter-torgue mechanism going the other way?

Oh, and TeriAnn?  O'Malley needs a helmet.

Metta,
Ivan
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:17:13 -0400
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Wow!
I've a long ay to go before I can justify a PTO driven sediment
reductionizer.....I'm still trying to get my basic mechanical/electrical systems
in order.....

Ivan Van Laningham wrote:

> Hi All--
>
> "S. Vels" wrote:
> >
> > The solution is simple. You only need an old deck-table, a piece of rope, a
> > drill, two old wheels from a VW beetle, a few nails and screws and perhaps
> > som worn out wheelbearings from the scrap pile.
> >
> > I posted a small sketch at:
> >
> > http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg
> >
>
> Ingenious, but sufficient RPMs to develop sediment-trapping centrifugal
> force will also develop sufficient torgue to pop that baby right over on
> the least deviation from dead flat.  Maybe you could install a
> counter-torgue mechanism going the other way?
>
> Oh, and TeriAnn?  O'Malley needs a helmet.
>
> Metta,
> Ivan
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:48:57 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Matt Peckham wrote:

> degrees...  How about a hood mounted setup?

That would require the driver to wear safety goggles. Not all bottles are
faultless.

Perhaps a radiator mounted device relying on radiation rather than convection.
That would also help during rush hour traffic if you feel a bit squeezed by
reckless motorway competitors.

A multiple purpose device, which would also draw the mot inspector's attention
away from the big holes in the frame.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:54:06 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ivan Van Laningham wrote:

> Ingenious, but sufficient RPMs to develop sediment-trapping centrifugal
> force will also develop sufficient torgue to pop that baby right over on
> the least deviation from dead flat.  Maybe you could install a
> counter-torgue mechanism going the other way?

Weld a dead leaf spring onto the drivewheel and cross the rope. That should do
the trick. A Microsoft-like hotfix to a serious problem.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:59:02 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Easton Trevor A wrote:

> Good, but the axis has to be vertical and the bottles mounted in swinging
> containers. If not the sediment remixes in the non vertical bottles when the
> unit is stopped.

Not if you open them immideately. Have you ever seen bottles brought to a
meeting just sitting for hours before being opened?.

> I wouldn't want to rely on the neck of the bottle to support the rest at
> high rpm/g levels either.

Neither would i. And never take wine out to drink in the mountains. :-)

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 29
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:52:38 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> an actor on a jogging scene through city streets, a park, and up a large 
> flight of steps.  Does this give it away?
> 
Rocky

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Message: 30
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:53:49 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> > I posted a small sketch at:
> >
> > http://users.cybercity.dk/~dko5319/deset.jpg
> >

I am thinking this needs to get posted to ScrapHeapChallange/JunkYardWars as
a competition idea.
Pete

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Message: 31
From: "CW - Carey Woodings" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:23:00 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Steady Cam trivia

The answer was "Rocky"

Matt Peckham guessed correctly, followed shortly by Ron Ward.

"Johnny...what do we have for our lucky winners?"

"Well Alex, our contestants will receive an all expense paid trip to 
Hollywood where they will play supporting roles in the exciting new sequel 
"Rocky 78" due to start filming in May, 2242."
(small print, spoken quietly and as fast as you can possibly utter the words 
- "this offer is non-transferable and expires one year from date of notice")
      ____________
     /____________\     Cheers,   CW
     !     !!     !
     !_____!!_____!
   O !===[[[]]]===! O
    \__ -------- __/
    !..!( )##( )!..!    Carey Woodings           AND NOW
    !  !########!  !    "Nessie the Antique      a 1988
    !  !#O####O#!  !    Monster" Bronze Green    Range Rover
    ================    1962 SIIA SWB SW         Deb's Daily
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Message: 32
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:28:30 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Nate writes: >>>Does this mean you'll stop by the campsite if there happens
to be a bottle of
> Jameson's on the liftgate for a short chat?<<<

I bloody hope so, I'm camping ( I think) courtesy of John Tackley.
 I could probably be persuaded, by the use of extreme force, to take a
glass...

Best Cheers

Frank
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Message: 33
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Frank, was Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:33:03 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill writes: >>>Nate, are you trying to turn Frank into one of your
customers? I think
> his Jameson days are behind him...<<<

cough, splutter... Bill I am under doctors orders to take a glass or two
each and every night... aparently it is good for the blood. Between four and
five units of alcohol per day.
 It's binge drinking that is out.
 So, two glasses a night is ok, fourteen glasses in one night and none the
rest of the week is nok...
I've just had to adjust that's all :-)>

Best Cheers

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Message: 34
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:09:34 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

here we go again :-)>
Best Cheers

Frank
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....

> 
> "Simon J. Harding" wrote:
> > 
> >  Except Guiness is best warmish. 
> 
> Heresy! Warm beer (anything NOT icy cold) is FTD.
>  
> Regards
> 
> Paul Oxley
> AfricanAdrenalin.com
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Message: 35
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:28:22 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bryan writes: >>>Guinness.  I think its an acquired taste, but it is quite
good, especially in damp, coolish weather.<<<

that explains why we drink so much of it here in the English Pennines -
that's the only sort of weather we get...
Best Cheers

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Message: 36
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:04:56 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ivan Van Laningham wrote:

> Now, Guinness _Draught_ may be a different animal than Guinness _Stout_,

Hmm, and as a cursory inspection of the specific beer in question will
reveal that the can does instruct one to "Serve extra cold" :-{)}

> Americans, of course, prefer characterless beer

I dunno whether to feel insulted or relieved ;-{>}
 
Regards

Paul (with flame-retardent jock strap) Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 37
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:49:10 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm going to change the subject to try to cool things down  (pun intended).  I
keep a half pint of Jack Daniels Black securely swaddled in bubble wrap and
Duct tape in my tool locker, along with spare belt, hoses and overdrive
replacement kit, just in case of an emergency.  Don't leave home without it.
You never know when Strong Drink may be required.

Simon
Hmm, and as a cursory inspection of the specific beer in question will
reveal that the can does instruct one to "Serve extra cold" :-{)}

> Americans, of course, prefer characterless beer

I dunno whether to feel insulted or relieved ;-{>}

Regards

Paul (with flame-retardent jock strap) Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com
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Message: 38
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:35:51 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

But then again, they wouldn't have to be spun all the time, just a while
before drinking it, so all the solids are at the bottom.

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 39
From: "Colin Clegg" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:01:41 +0100
Subject: [lro] Steering lock problem
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi

I've just gone to start my series 3 and found that the steering lock is
on and the key just turns in the ignition barrel without any resistance.

Do I have to strip the lock down, or is there a nice simple fix ?

Cheers

Colin Clegg

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Message: 40
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:45:04 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I look forward to meeting you all there.

Best Cheers

Frank

  Frank, is this true?  Your going to be at the MAR?  Wow, true LR celeb
from the UK.  I can't wait.  I'm bringing a black Sharpie marker, will you
sign my SIII?

Scott Wickham Jr.
Pgh., Pa.
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
'72 SIII
'84 RR

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Message: 41
From: "Scott Wickham" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:54:22 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

When is the rally this year???

http://www.roav.org

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Message: 42
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:15:48 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have a similar reaction to whiskeys, in general, and most distilled 
beverages as an aggregate.  They make me gag when I try to drink them.  Did 
once manage to get a sip of very expensive single malt down, though.  
Strangely, I can drink Tequila from the bottle.  Decided to quit that when I 
woke up with an empty 5th of Cuervo gold and my VW camper's front wheels in 
the Ocean.  Good thing the tides aren't very high in Hawaii.

Aloha
Peter Ogilvie
Kona Coffee Rover
1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering
     from exposure of the dark side.
1966 109 pickup 'slime'  In my garage since '90, finally running.
1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava.
196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will
     certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust

>From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
>Only problem is I don't like the taste of Whiskey.  Generally distilled
>beverages must be very well disguised before I can enjoy it (like a
>strawberry daiquiri).  My throat refuses to open to let me swallow
>Scotch.  It is convinced I'm trying to kill it with paint thinner or some
>such solvent.

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Message: 43
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Mid Atlantic Rally
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:36:43 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

BTW, when is the MAR?
Pete

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Message: 44
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:13:10 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Frank Elson wrote:
 
> that explains why we drink so much of it here in the English Pennines -
> that's the only sort of weather we get...

A friend, whose vehicle I'm preparing for a long safari, flew in
yesterday from London. He phones me yesterday afternoon and raves about
blue skies for about 5 minutes. I'm confused. Does the sky come in any
other colour?

:-{)}

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 45
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:18:33 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:
 
> I'm going to change the subject to try to cool things down  (pun intended).  I
 keep a half pint of Jack Daniels Black securely swaddled in bubble wrap
and
 Duct tape in my tool locker, along with spare belt, hoses and overdrive
 replacement kit, just in case of an emergency.  Don't leave home
without it.
> You never know when Strong Drink may be required.

Jack Black? As in the premix cola and bourbon stuff? What a waste of a
good sipping whisky... 

However the basic idea has enormous merit. When all else fails a strong
drink is all that remains.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 46
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:24:40 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] The male mind at work....
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Simon J. Harding" wrote:
 
> Ok, I give, what is FTD 

FTD = From The Devil ((c) Brian Cotton, ZA-LRO)

Typical usage is "Spare wheels mounted on safari doors are FTD.", "Lucas
electrics are FTD.", "Land-Rover dealers are FTD.", you get the idea?

We're compiling a list of FTD items to publish on the braaigrid.org.za
site as soon as someone has the time and energy to spare. I'll keep
y'all posted.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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