Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #49 - 50 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Ashcroft High-Ration TCase ([email-masked])
   2. Re: Brake pedal sinking. Very odd. (S. Vels)
   3. Re: axle straps ([email-masked])
   4. RE: axle straps (Sergi, Michael)
   5. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking ([email-masked])
   6. Eastwood Powdercoating gun for sale (Andrew H. Litkowiak)
   7. Re: axle straps (Rob MacCormick)
   8. Resurecting Red Zit (N Forbes)
   9. tranny options - was aftermarket tranny bits (Rich & Lori Williams)
  10. Re: Looking for a Rover in NE/Canada (Martin Rothman)
  11. Resurecting Red Zit (N Forbes)
  12. Re: axle straps (Andrew Nordby)
  13. test (Jeff Bieler)
  14. Re: Ashcroft High-Ration TCase ([email-masked])
  15. Re: test (Neil Brownlee)
  16. anybody there? (Frank Elson)
  17. Re: Ashcroft High-Ration TCase (Kirk Hillman)
  18. is the list up? (Rich & Lori Williams)
  19. tranny options - was aftermarket tranny bits (Rich & Lori Williams)
  20. Re: axle straps (Rolston)
  21. Ujoints (David and Cindi Walker)
  22. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking (William J. Rice)
  23. Early SII Drivetrain ([email-masked])
  24. oil leak and transfer case selector issue (Jeff Bieler)
  25. Re: Early SII Drivetrain (Neil Brownlee)
  26. Re: Was that you? (Dick Love)
  27. Powder coating wheels (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?=)
  28. Breaking ([email-masked])
  29. Re: E-brake bashing (Faure, Marin)
  30. Re: Re: Was that you? (Jeff Bieler)
  31. RH drop to LH drop (Bill Adams)
  32. Re: RH drop to LH drop (Neil Brownlee)
  33. RE: RH drop to LH drop (Matthew Wilson)
  34. oil leak and transfer case selector issue (Jeff Bieler)
  35. Sliding side window replacement. (Par Leijonhufvud)
  36. Monday funny, may be offensive ;>)) (=?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?=)
  37. Re: Ujoints ([email-masked])
  38. Re: Ashcroft High-Ration TCase ([email-masked])
  39. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking (RON WARD)
  40. 107's (A. P. (Sandy) Grice)
  41. Re:axle check straps ([email-masked])
  42. Steen's Mountain Or (Simon J. Harding)
  43. Handbrakes (William L Leacock)
  44. Re: RH drop to LH drop (Jean-Leon Morin)
  45. Pierce Manifold and Weber (aaron)
  46. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking ([email-masked])
  47. Re: Re: Was that you? (Russ Wilson)
  48. Roverfest pictures (Nick Danger)
  49. RE: Roverfest pictures (Perrone Ford)
  50. Re: axle straps ([email-masked])

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Message: 1
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:30:14 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Ashcroft High-Ration TCase
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 7/16/01 1:26:36 PM, [email-masked] writes:

<< The high ratio kit is very close but just a tad LOWER than 3.54 gears.

Here is my data:

Type - overall ratio in 4th - MPH @ 1000 RPM in 4th

Standard - 5.396:1 - 17.2 MPH
Fariey/Superwinch - 4.220:1 - 21.74
std & 3.54 diffs - 4.063:1 - 22.86
High ratio Xfer - 4.089:1 - 22.66

TeriAnn
    Hows this for a very delayed response. Assuming you are correct for a 
minute, have you ever driven a stock Series LR with 3.54 diff gears in it? 
Can you spell SLOW. The only person I know that is happy with this combo is a 
guy that is running 2.15X75X15 inch tires. Can you spell SMALL.

    I don't have my formulas handy so I can't check your numbers. I was 
basing my comments on the percentage increases that everyone advertises for 
the different options. As I recall they are as follows:
    27% - Fairey/Superwinch Overdrive
    32% - Ashcroft High Range kit

    I have decided to produce a new transfer case gear set for the Series 
transfer box that will be 18 to 20% higher high range and a 30% lower low 
range. I am planning on it being a bolt in rather than having to swap cases.

Bill
GBR

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:41:11 +0200
From: "S. Vels" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Brake pedal sinking. Very odd.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks.

I found a flat and dirty box with at rebuild kit under all my tools. Seems to be
complete. Will rebuild when the rain stops.

rgds
sv/aurens

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Message: 3
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:55:41 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 8/11/01 10:31:27 AM, [email-masked] writes:

<< What is the common thought about the need for axle straps? I left them off
after installing the Salisbury rear axle, seems to give us a bit more
articulation.  Jim, CT >>

Jim
    Throw them away, they have nothing to do with the shock absorber or 
driveshaft extension. They slightly reduce the rollover angle of the vehicle. 
If you really think you will be negotiating  side angles of 40% + unassisted, 
you are a better man than I.

Bill
GBR

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Message: 4
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] axle straps
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:46:06 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I thought straps prevent the shocks from reaching full extension and prevent
their damage.  I put my trust in Rocky Mountain as I bought their springs.
They say, "There is a school of thought that says axle straps are not
needed, we didn't attend".  I liked that.  Plus the strap material comes
with the kit and with the rear tub off they were an easy install.

Mike

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Message: 5
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:22:31 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 8/10/01 6:51:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> Basically, it's a valve/solinoid set up you run your break line through.  

Mico sells a similar device which removes the electrickery from the equation. 
Generally installed in the braking circuit, and placed in the dash in reach 
of the driver. In use, one stomps on the brake to the desired level of 
effort, and while the foot is depressed, flips the lever. I'd be interested 
to know if the line locks release if you for example, disconnect the battery, 
or if the circuit fails.

Zack

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:43:16 -0500
From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" <[email-masked]>
To: LandCruiser List <[email-masked]>, Diesel List
  <[email-masked]>,
   "[email-masked]'"
  <[email-masked]>,
   Land Rover List <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Eastwood Powdercoating gun for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hello all,

I just stumbled across another item that must find another home.

This is the first version of the Eastwood Hotcoat system. It's brand
new in the box, never used. I bought the system and started looking
for a big used electric oven. 

Out of the blue, I was able to cut a deal with the local powdercoater.
I do come sand blasting for him, he does my powder coating.

So, it sits on my shelf looking forlorn.

I'll let this puppy go for $80 plus shipping. Look at the link to see
the item.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?HTNAME=/hotcoat/hotcoat_new.htm&UID=2001081220305464&FNM=20

Paypal preferred, first come, first served

Andy Litkowiak

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 07:43:55 -0400
From: Rob MacCormick <[email-masked]>
Organization: Boston College
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Had them for 5 years never knew they were there.......Took them off during
recent (Sat.) axle work and havn't noticed that they're missing.....For me and
the tame manner in which my car is used, I don't recognize a purpose.....
Rob M

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Message: 8
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:18:09 +0000
Subject: [lro] Resurecting Red Zit
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The poor Zit has been parked in the garage for too long now and it's time
to
let him out before the summer is over. I've been having a lot of trouble
with the ignition system and I think I've written to the list about it
before. The ignition seems to cut out when driving (ie. engine quits,
gauges
lose power, etc.) and then finally nothing works. I believe that I'm
burning
out the ignition switches (IIa + earth style). I thought that perhaps when
I
put in the new Delco alternator I got some wires mixed up or some thing but

everything appears to be wired up correctly.
i.e.
A on the switch should be power in.
S on the switch should be dash/side/tail lights.
IG on the switch sould go to fuel gauge/ charge light/coil/low oil
pressure sender/cold start switch.
H on the switch goes to the headlights.

Now I wonder if that isn't the problem. I have been told that with more
powerfull headlights (I have one original Lucas, one Halogen) that you need

to wire them through a relay to avoid blowing the switch. The other
possibility (? I'm just guessing) is that I have a short circuit somewhere.

So, if you think it's the lights, what kind of relay do I need to get and
if
it's a short, how do I determine that and find it?

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
--author unknown

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Message: 9
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] tranny options - was aftermarket tranny bits
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:55:25 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Another tranny question.  Since I have to do basically a full rebuild, I
could go into a later IIa tranny/xfer that would be plenty robust or I could
go to a III that would be fully synchro.  Realistically, most of the miles
I'll be puttiing on this 109 willl be on pavement.  So does anyone have any
wisdom to share on going one way or the other?

Thanks,

Rich

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Message: 10
From: "Martin Rothman" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Looking for a Rover in NE/Canada
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:05:03 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Andre,

Check out www.lrx.com and seach for the word "Canada".  In the recent 
adverts you will find one from Dave Meadows in Ottawa. He is selling his 
rebuilt hard top SIII-88".  It is an excellent truck and worth the money.

Good luck,

Martin Rothman

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Message: 11
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:25:16 +0000
Subject: [lro] Resurecting Red Zit
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The poor Zit has been parked in the garage for too long now and it's time to 
let him out before the summer is over. I've been having a lot of trouble 
with the ignition system and I think I've written to the list about it 
before. The ignition seems to cut out when driving (ie. engine quits, gauges 
lose power, etc.) and then finally nothing works. I believe that I'm burning 
out the ignition switches (IIa + earth style). I thought that perhaps when I 
put in the new Delco alternator I got some wires mixed up or some thing but 
everything appears to be wired up correctly.
i.e.
A on the switch should be power in.
S on the switch should be dash/side/tail lights.
IG on the switch sould go to fuel gauge/ charge light/coil/low oil
pressure sender/cold start switch.
H on the switch goes to the headlights.

Now I wonder if that isn't the problem. I have been told that with more 
powerfull headlights (I have one original Lucas, one Halogen) that you need 
to wire them through a relay to avoid blowing the switch. The other 
possibility (? I'm just guessing) is that I have a short circuit somewhere.
So, if you think it's the lights, what kind of relay do I need to get and if 
it's a short, how do I determine that and find it?

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
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Message: 12
From: "Andrew Nordby" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:46:39 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I believe that they are intended, possibly among other things, to prevent 
the propshaft from binding. A previous owner ran my '68 109 SW without check 
straps or axle stops. Both propshafts ended up with bent yokes, requiring 
surgery.

YMMV
Andy Nordby
Fall City, WA

>From: "Rolston" <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: "LR list" <[email-masked]>
>Subject: [lro] axle straps
>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:32:52 -0400
>
>
>What is the common thought about the need for axle straps? I left them off
>after installing the Salisbury rear axle, seems to give us a bit more
>articulation.  Jim, CT
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:13:48 -0700
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] test
Reply-To: [email-masked]

ping....

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Message: 14
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:59:36 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Ashcroft High-Ration TCase
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill

I am interested in your low range transfer gear swap.  I was thinking of 
going with the Ashcroft low range set up, but rather spend the money on this 
side of the pond.  Anymore info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 
Matt

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Message: 15
From: "Neil Brownlee" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] test
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:08:44 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Pong.....
-------------------------------------------------------------

Neil

1978 Land Rover Series III 109" Ex-MOD - 'Harriet'
1997 Land Rover Discovery V8i ES - 'Piglet' - XD9000i, Terrain Master Winch
Bumper & Hi-Lift carrier, Bearmach steering/sump guard, Mantec Side
Protection Sills, Scorpion Racing +2" suspension lift, De-Carbon Shocks,
Southdown Fuel Tank Guard, 235/85 General Grabber MT's, WH Wheelcarriers
Diff Guards, JE Engineering 4 Tailpipe SS Exhaust
1998 Land Rover Freelander - 'Misty'

http://www.landroverdiscoveryv8i.freeservers.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/landroverdiscoveryv8i
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From: "Jeff Bieler" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:13 AM
Subject: [lro] test

>
> ping....
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Message: 16
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: "lro list" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:08:50 +0100
Subject: [lro] anybody there?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

system seems to be down again is this getting out?
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+            
     I !__|  [_]|_\___   
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV 
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Message: 17
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Ashcroft High-Ration TCase
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:03:46 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill,
    Actually, I am sure there are a number of us interested.  Right now I am
working on getting the low range gears from a 'B' transfer case.  My OD may
have to come off because I want a PTO winch, so your gears sound like the
ideal option.  The best of ALL worlds!

Kirk

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Message: 18
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:31:28 -0700
Subject: [lro] is the list up?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

...ping...

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Message: 19
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] tranny options - was aftermarket tranny bits
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:18:29 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Another tranny question.

Since I basically have to do a full rebuild, I can improve on the A suffix
unit I have by doing one of two different things.

1) I could go into a later IIa tranny/xfer that would be plenty robust and
have readily accessible parts.

2) I could put in a Series III unit for the advantage of the full synchro.
Realistically, most of the miles I'll be puttiing on this 109 willl be on
pavement.  Therefore to some extent the synchro is appealing.

Anyone have any wisdom to share on going one way or the other?

Thanks,

Rich

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Message: 20
From: "Rolston" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:25:23 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill, we laid the ambulance over on it's side a few weeks ago, but that was
with the rover axle and the straps installed!  Landed on some fairly soft
sand,  got a few hands to stand the beast back up, someone hiking out on the
high side and away we went......just broke the glass in the mirror on the
down side.  Was interested to see we still had oil pressure and the Weber
DGEV 38 ran fine!

Maybe the extra weight of the Salisbury will keep us upright next time.

Jim

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Message: 21
From: "David and Cindi Walker" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:30:02 -0700
Subject: [lro] Ujoints
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have the 2 15/16 ujoint - does anyone happen to have the NAPA number for
the ujoint with grease fitting?

I used to have the # and checked the archives but could not find it.
Thank you.

Cheers,

David

[email-masked]
end of message

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Message: 22
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:55:59 -0600
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

D. Scheidt said:
> Really, if the handbrake is set up right, they work really well.  
> Mine will
> hold my 109 on any slope I can drive up, and some I can't.  

Well, if that's the criteria, Matt shouldn't be complaining about his
tranny brake at all, unless he's worried about it working on slopes so
steep Mrs. Merdle had to pull him up them : )

bill

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Message: 23
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:25:38 EDT
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Early SII Drivetrain
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Neil Wrote:
    Um, I think you find that there are SOME 107" Diseasals.........at least 
I'm fairly certain there are.

    There may well be some 107 SI diesels, but they arent factory fitted.  
The change in wheelbase from 86 to 88 and from 107 to 109 was to accomidate 
the 2.0L diesel engine.  You'll notice Im sure that the introduction of the 
diesel in late 1956 coincides nicely with the introduction of the longer 
wheelbase for the 1957 model year.  The only 107 that was available while the 
2.0L diesel was in production was the 107 wagon and it only came in a petrol 
version.
-Regards
-Ike Goss
PS: wasnt sure if your spelling of "diesel" was intentional or not, but its 
makes a good pun. 

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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:48:10 -0700
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] oil leak and transfer case selector issue
Reply-To: [email-masked]

After following the advice of the guys at BP and talking to Ray at Rocky
Mountain, I filed down the lip of the recess around the plug for the mechanical
oil pressure sender on the Rock Mountain oil filter adapter.  I had to
do this
as the boss on the sender was too wide and would not sit flush with the
adapter.  After fitting new copper washers, the leak appeared solved.  Four
days of daily driving and she appeared to be leak free from that area..  Today,
after about 1 hour on the highway and two hours playing in the dirt, the oil
pressure sender is leaking again.  It looks like I might have lost as
much as a
quart during the 3 hour drive.  Any suggestions or ideas on how to stop this?

Also, the transfer case selector regularly jumps out of low.  The boot
is fit
properly and I'm going to take a look at the spring as soon as the truck cools
down.  Any tips, hints, suggestions, before I get up to my elbows in
grim and
grit?

Thanks,

Jeff
1965 IIA

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Message: 25
From: "Neil Brownlee" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Early SII Drivetrain
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:46:11 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm a petrolhead......so my comment on the "other" type of engine was
intentional <VBG>

-------------------------------------------------------------

Neil

1978 Land Rover Series III 109" Ex-MOD - 'Harriet'
1997 Land Rover Discovery V8i ES - 'Piglet' - XD9000i, Terrain Master Winch
Bumper & Hi-Lift carrier, Bearmach steering/sump guard, Mantec Side
Protection Sills, Scorpion Racing +2" suspension lift, De-Carbon Shocks,
Southdown Fuel Tank Guard, 235/85 General Grabber MT's, WH Wheelcarriers
Diff Guards, JE Engineering 4 Tailpipe SS Exhaust
1998 Land Rover Freelander - 'Misty'

http://www.landroverdiscoveryv8i.freeservers.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/landroverdiscoveryv8i

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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:56:51 -0700
From: Dick Love <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Re: Was that you?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Sunday 8/12/01 I'm sitting on my cycle on PCH waiting to make a left on to
Topanga Cyn and a real nice looking green SIIa (soft top) comes down the
canyon and turns onto PCH going south. Was this one of us?

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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:58:51 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?= <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Powder coating wheels
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Apparently I missed a thread about powder-coating wheels, what
is the verdict?  I just had my five origonal LR wheels blasted
and powder-coated and they look a treat.  Too nice to take in
the woods, they'll now be the dress-up set.  Haven't mounted
tires yet.  Can't scratch the stuff with fingernails or a (dull)
rock.  Did I do wrong?  Cost me 150 quid for the five, seemed
reasonable to me.....

=====
Robert D. Ries
SSgt, USAF
Burwell, England
"With friends like these..."

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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:13:59 -0400
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Breaking
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Frank Wrote about parking brakes ( or lack thereof)

Had a Mini when in England. Used to park it at the shop out of gear with brake off until:

A; we had a good gale and one of my troops informed me that my car was rolling across the car park.

B: My troops found that two of them could lift the rear end and "Wheel barrow" the car any were they wanted. Came off shift one day to find my Mini on the parked sideways in the spot betwixt two other cars! After I chewed some butt saw the (little)humor in it; but started leaving it in gear and the  brake on!

Art Bitterman
1960 SII "Aardvark" 
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Art Bitterman

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Message: 29
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Land Rover Mail Group'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:18:51 -0700
Subject: [lro] Re: E-brake bashing
Reply-To: [email-masked]

From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] E-brake bashing
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>The transmission brake is the best e-brake I've ever used.  For those 
with complaints about 'em: are you sure that your problems aren't due 
to lack of maintenance?

I will second that opinion.  In 28 years of driving a Series, I've found that 
the driveline hand brake is far more effective than any cable-actuated wheel brake 
system I've used.  I have winched vehicles and sunken steel-frame docks 
out of lakes, pulled new water pipes under driveways, and so forth with my 
Fairey capstan, all with the driveline brake holding my vehicle. While I've on 
several occasions had the whole Land Rover slide toward the object I was 
winching, I've never had any of the road wheels slip with the transmission brake 
on and the vehicle in 4wd.  However, if the brake shoes are not adjusted properly 
to the drum, the brake can slip very easily.  But if the adjustments are correct, 
the brake will lock up tight, even if it's gotten a bit oily.

I assume the reason Toyota also used a driveline handbrake on some, if not all 
models of the Land Cruiser was because it is so effective.
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Message: 30
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:20:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: Was that you?
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

on 8/13/01 10:56 AM, Dick Love at [email-masked] wrote:

> 
> Sunday 8/12/01 I'm sitting on my cycle on PCH waiting to make a left on to
> Topanga Cyn and a real nice looking green SIIa (soft top) comes down the
> canyon and turns onto PCH going south. Was this one of us?
> _______________________________________________
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> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

Were you on a older black motorcycle?  I had just come down Topanga about
12:00~12:30PM and turned South on PCH to head home.  There are some little
trails at the top of Old Tapanga Canyon Road I play on sometimes.  I had my
little boy with me (but you probably couldn't see him in the child seat).

Jeff

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Message: 31
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:21:59 -0400
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
Organization: U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] RH drop to LH drop
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Would it be concievably possible to convert the front axle to a LH side
drop if one were to flip the axle case over, remount the spring perches
and oil drain hole and breathers and reinstall the swivels right side
up? Would there be any problem with the drag link?
Just asking hypothetically of course...;-)
-- 
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"

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Message: 32
From: "Neil Brownlee" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] RH drop to LH drop
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:30:45 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

....if you invert the axle, won't you stay stationary, as the diff will
rotate the "other" way? Or am I imagining it? As axle 1 will want to go in
the opposite direction to axle 2?

-------------------------------------------------------------

Neil

1978 Land Rover Series III 109" Ex-MOD - 'Harriet'
1997 Land Rover Discovery V8i ES - 'Piglet' - XD9000i, Terrain Master Winch
Bumper & Hi-Lift carrier, Bearmach steering/sump guard, Mantec Side
Protection Sills, Scorpion Racing +2" suspension lift, De-Carbon Shocks,
Southdown Fuel Tank Guard, 235/85 General Grabber MT's, WH Wheelcarriers
Diff Guards, JE Engineering 4 Tailpipe SS Exhaust
1998 Land Rover Freelander - 'Misty'

http://www.landroverdiscoveryv8i.freeservers.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/landroverdiscoveryv8i
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Adams" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:21 PM
Subject: [lro] RH drop to LH drop

>
> Would it be concievably possible to convert the front axle to a LH side
> drop if one were to flip the axle case over, remount the spring perches
> and oil drain hole and breathers and reinstall the swivels right side
> up? Would there be any problem with the drag link?
> Just asking hypothetically of course...;-)
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

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Message: 33
From: "Matthew Wilson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RH drop to LH drop
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:31:41 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Bill,
  A guy right down the road from me did something like this.  His truck was
out of commission all last winter while he did the change.  He runs a
Mustang 289 in the Rover ('66 IIa 109) with a Ford auto tranny, hence the
need for a change of some sort.  I'd say it's a heck of a lot of work.
Unfortunately, I don't think Dan is on email though.  I'll flag him down
next time he passes by and I'm outsite to see if he is.
Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of Bill Adams
Sent: 13 August, 2001 16:22
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] RH drop to LH drop

Would it be concievably possible to convert the front axle to a LH side
drop if one were to flip the axle case over, remount the spring perches
and oil drain hole and breathers and reinstall the swivels right side
up? Would there be any problem with the drag link?
Just asking hypothetically of course...;-)
--
Bill Adams
3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
International Broadcasting Bureau
Washington, D.C.
202-205-9638
[email-masked]

'66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
'81 GoldWing
'69 Le Sabre Convertible
'63 Pearson Vanguard
"Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
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Message: 34
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:19:13 -0700
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] oil leak and transfer case selector issue
Reply-To: [email-masked]

After following the advice of the guys at BP and talking to Ray at Rocky
Mountain, I filed down the lip of the recess around the plug for the mechanical
oil pressure sender on the Rock Mountain oil filter adapter.  I had to do this
as the boss on the sender was too wide and would not sit flush with the
adapter.  After fitting new copper washers, the leak appeared solved.  Four
days of daily driving and she appeared to be leak free from that area..  Today,
after about 1 hour on the highway and two hours playing in the dirt, the oil
pressure sender is leaking again.  It looks like I might have lost as much as a
quart during the 3 hour drive.  Any suggestions or ideas on how to stop this?

Also, the transfer case selector regularly jumps out of low.  The boot is fit
properly and I'm going to take a look at the spring as soon as the truck cools
down.  Any tips, hints, suggestions, before I get up to my elbows in grim and
grit?

Thanks,

Jeff
1965 IIA

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Message: 35
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:36:04 +0200
From: Par Leijonhufvud <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Sliding side window replacement.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The dear darlings have suggested that the passenger side sliding window
needs replacement urgently. I.e. I found the window broken.

Anything special about replacing it? I don't really hav time to do it
myself, so I'm figuring on he fastest way to do it; the regular auto
glass shop. Or will that turn out to be a suboptimal solution? By the
look of things a PO did the swap by bending out the top flanges, and
doing a shitty job of bending them back (the rattling decreased
dramatically after I went over it with a set of pliers).

At least they didn't appear to have taken anything. There was a knife on
the "shelf" that someone had taken out to look at, but nothing appear to
be missing. Missed the full tool box, probably since they couldn't find
a way to actually open any doors. Good thing nobody knows about the
way open the rear side doors on the 109. 

Ohh, and the idiot who has the spot next to mine had left a note to the
effect that my vehicle was parked crooked (it was, but all inside my
space), and thft he would be talking to the condo association if I
presisted. I'll talk to them Monday and ask for another parking spot.

/Par
 who wishes he could have found them in progress, and thus had the
 oppourtunity to discuss the matter.

-- 
Par Leijonhufvud                                      [email-masked]
But the Mac protects me from thought, and that's the main thing.  
	-- Peter Ceresole on the benefits of using Macintosh computers.  

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Message: 36
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 05:36:08 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Robert=20Ries?= <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Monday funny, may be offensive ;>))
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Good things to say when stressed

1. "Okay, okay! I take it back. Unf*** 
you!!!"

2. "You say I'm a b**** like it's a bad
thing?!"

3. "How many times do I have to flush
before you go away?"

4."Well this day was a total waste of
make-up"

5. "Well aren't we a Bloody ray of
sunshine?"

6. "Don't bother me, I'm living happily
ever after."

7. "Do I look like a F***ing people's
person!"

8. "This isn't an office.* It's HELL with
florescent lighting"

9. "I started out with nothing & still
have most of it left"

10. "I pretend to work, they pretend t
pay me"

11. "YOU!!... off my planet!!!"

12. "Therapy is expensive. Popping
bubble plastic is
 cheap. You choose"

13. "Practise random acts of intelligence
and senseless acts of
 self-control"

14. "Errors have been made.  Others will
be blamed"

15. "And your cry-baby, whiny-assed
opnion would be.....?"

16. "I'm not crazy.  I've been in a very
bad mood for 3 years."

17. "Sarcasm is just one more service I
offer."

18. "Whatever kind of look you were goin
for,  you missed"

19. "Do they ever shut up on your
planet?"

20. "I'm not your type.  I'm not
inflatable"

21. "Stress is when you wake up screamin
and you realize you haven't gone to sleep yet"

22. "Back off!!  You're standing in my aura.

23. "Don't worry. I forgot your name too."

24. "I just want revenge. Is that so wrong?"

25. "I work 45 hours a week to be this poor."

26. "Nice perfume. Must you marinate in it."

27. "Not all men are annoying. Some are dead."

28. "Wait...I'm trying to imagine you
with a personality"

29. "Chaos, panic and disorder . . . my
work here is done."

30. "Ambivalent? Well yes and no."

31. "You look like s***. Is that the style now?"

32. "Earth is full. Go home."

33. "Aw, did I step on your poor little bitty ego?"

34. "I'm not tense, just terribly terribly alert."

35. "A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth."

36. " You are depriving some village of an idiot."

=====
Robert D. Ries
SSgt, USAF
Burwell, England
"With friends like these..."

____________________________________________________________
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Message: 37
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:48:40 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Ujoints
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Napa # 369

$8.99 at any store

scott just
rochester, mi.

> 
> I have the 2 15/16 ujoint - does anyone happen to have the NAPA number for
> the ujoint with grease fitting?
> 
> I used to have the # and checked the archives but could not find it.
> Thank you.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
> [email-masked]
> end of message

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Message: 38
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:16:42 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] Ashcroft High-Ration TCase
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In a message dated 08/13/2001 11:44:33, [email-masked] writes:

>have you ever driven a stock Series LR with 3.54 diff gears in it? 
>Can you spell SLOW. 

 I have, and boy was it ever slow! Renewed Traditions ordered in a 109 for a 
guy and his man in England on Pucklechurch Lane just swapped out engine and 
gearbox from a stage one. I swapped in series three stuff and got to keep the 
Salisbury rear (now in Washington State) and the CV front axles (now in the 
treasure trove o'parts)
Still have a spare 3.54 front diff.
Cheers!
John Dillingham
Vintage Rover Service
Canton, Georgia
85 Range Rover Vogue 5speed
68 SWB series IIa 
72 SWB series III

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Message: 39
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:25:48 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
Reply-To: [email-masked]

With the enormous amount of rust and metal filings inside the transmission brake drum, no doubt it holds pretty well ;)

>>> [email-masked] 08/11/01 09:41AM >>>

The parking/transmission brake on my 88" holds as well as the transmission brake
on our Discovery.  Have parked on many an incline and used it off road already
as well.  After the small movement for drivetrain slop, the brake holds rock
solid.

See Ron, I do say nice things about it!

Jeff

Jim Hall wrote:

> Speak for yourself, my e-brake holds me on any incline. Just put a new
> seal in, clean the drum and shoes and adjust it and it works great In
> fact I can say that I've never had a better e-brake in any car.
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Went through some steep stops at the rally this month and wished I had them
> > then as the leg got tired holding the break, and we all know the
> > effectiveness/trustworthiness of the e-break on reversal and/or steep
> > inclines.
>
> Jim Hall
> 1966 88" Elephant Chaser
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo 
> "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling
> with Jim." Mitch Stockdale
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Message: 40
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:41:47 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] 107's
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Neil Brownlee <[email-masked]> wrote:

>Um, I think you find that there are SOME 107" Diseasals.........at least
I'm fairly certain there are.

I don't think so...there may have been a prototype or two, but the
principle reason why Rover went from 86 to 88" and from 107 to 109" was to
acomodate the new and slightly longer, 2.25 diesel engine.

Cheers

	*-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----*
	|                 A. P. "Sandy" Grice                  |
	|    The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd    |
	|     1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
	|     757-622-7054  (H)423-4898  (FAX)757-622-7056     |
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Message: 41
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:24:42 +1000
Subject: [lro] Re:axle check straps
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I thought that the axle check straps were there to stop the shockers becoming
the 'check mechanism', particularly with the older shockers not being as strong
as those that usually replace them today.  On a couple of old Landy wrecks I
have bought over time rear shockers have be broken in half on vehicles without
check straps

Richard C

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Message: 42
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:06:58 -0700
Subject: [lro] Steen's Mountain Or
Reply-To: [email-masked]

	I just returned from a five day trip from Portland to Steens Mountain and the Strawberry Mountains in my 109 SW.  Covered 961 miles, and took the 109 to about 9500 feet on Steens Mountain.  No problems other than significant power loss due to altitude at Burns, Or, where I picked up a K & N filter (thanks BP!) , and a loose heater blower motor and one sliding window lock both of which loosened up on severe washboard roads on South Steens.  The power loss picked up again on Steens Mt., but overall I was impressed with the grunt of that little engine!  If anyone wants to hear more about these two areas or the trip in general, drop me a line.  I'm unsubbed and will remain so for a while as I have a lot of catch-up to do.
Simon

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Message: 43
To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:02:39 -0400
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Handbrakes
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Frank writes -- 
several years ago I returned to the Range Rover I had then and found that
aTriumph Herald had blocked me in by parking right up to the front -
there was a tree behind  So I eased forward in first low to 'nudge' him a
little, just to get the space.
 It was 2am and nothing else on the road (the centre of Liverpool) and I
had to sit and watch this vehicle take off, nice and slowly and describe
a pleasant curve to rest up against the opposite pavement (sidewalk-US)
about fifty yards away!

  So after all these years I find that my wife was telling the truth
about our Triumph............  Where's my lawyer!

Regards

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 44
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] RH drop to LH drop
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:46:57 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You would have to rotate the differential 180 degrees in order to keep the
axles turning the right way. This means cutting out a notch for the diff in
the axle case, and bolting it right up.

J-L
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Adams <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: [lro] RH drop to LH drop

>
> Would it be concievably possible to convert the front axle to a LH side
> drop if one were to flip the axle case over, remount the spring perches
> and oil drain hole and breathers and reinstall the swivels right side
> up? Would there be any problem with the drag link?
> Just asking hypothetically of course...;-)
> --
> Bill Adams
> 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director
> International Broadcasting Bureau
> Washington, D.C.
> 202-205-9638
> [email-masked]
>
>
> '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel
> '81 GoldWing
> '69 Le Sabre Convertible
> '63 Pearson Vanguard
> "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching"
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro

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Message: 45
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:58:45 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: aaron <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Pierce Manifold and Weber
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I just purchased a used Pierce manifold and was wondering about what 
carb to use.
I realize the 32/36 DGV is the preferred. Is this strictly an 
aftermarket carb? If not what model of cars should I be looking for 
at my local pick a part?(junkyard)
Is anybody running a different carb?
What jets are needed for sea level?

Thanks in advance for the collective wisdom,
Aaron

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Message: 46
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:27:26 EDT
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

   Bill wrote - "Well, if that's the criteria, Matt shouldn't be complaining 
about his
tranny brake at all, unless he's worried about it working on slopes so
steep Mrs. Merdle had to pull him up them : )"
  
Laugh it up Elvis boy.......motor swap coming soon. ;-)

As for the hand break, will check it again and see if I can get some of the 
great performance praises it's getting.  No oil leak (figure that), and 
adjusted according to the green bible prior to the rally.  Will keep my 
fingers crossed.

Matt

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Message: 47
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:40:37 -0700
From: Russ Wilson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Re: Was that you?
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It was probably Ronnie ?  from Westchester.  He works in S.M. and has a 
nice IIa with a touch of diamond plate on the rear quarters.

On Monday, August 13, 2001, at 10:56 AM, Dick Love wrote:

>
> Sunday 8/12/01 I'm sitting on my cycle on PCH waiting to make a left on 
> to
> Topanga Cyn and a real nice looking green SIIa (soft top) comes down the
> canyon and turns onto PCH going south. Was this one of us?
> _______________________________________________
> LRO mailing list
> [email-masked]
> http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
>

Russ Wilson

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Message: 48
From: Nick Danger <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:12:06 -0400
Subject: [lro] Roverfest pictures
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ok, I ran out of gas going there, broke my rear axel up there and ended up 
driving home (at 45) using on the front wheels. And know what? Id do it all 
again next weekend. Well maybe not NEXT weekend, I still need some sleep. 
Zzzzzz.....

Some images -

http://www.hackermonkey.com/roverfest/

To everyone I met, Hi! Thanks for all the incredible help I got, and I had 
one hell of a time. 

-Nick

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Message: 49
From: "Perrone Ford" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Roverfest pictures
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:17:27 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Why did you drive home at 45mph?

-P

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of Nick Danger
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:12 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [lro] Roverfest pictures
>
>
>
> Ok, I ran out of gas going there, broke my rear axel up there and
> ended up
> driving home (at 45) using on the front wheels. And know what? Id
> do it all
> again next weekend. Well maybe not NEXT weekend, I still need some sleep.
> Zzzzzz.....
>
> Some images -
> -Nick

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Message: 50
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:29:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It the shock isn't designed with a internal joust stop then you need an
axle strap.  Using a shock that wasn't designed as a stop is a big no-no.
 You can rip the valve right off the rod with one good drop.  I have also
seen lower spring plates  cracked longitudinally by shocks that were too
short and no strap.  Of corse you have to get the end of the shock travel
before any of this can happen.

Chris hall

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