Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #47 - 13 msgs

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:29:56 -0400 (EDT)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking (Frank Elson)
   2. Python/Rovers/Editting (Brad Crittenden)
   3. Re: scotty's adapter/breaking (Jeff Bieler)
   4. RE: Python/Rovers/Editting (Brad Crittenden)
   5. axle straps (Rolston)
   6. Re: axle straps (Paul Quin)
   7. Re: axle straps (N Forbes)
   8. Re: Intake and Exhaust lengths, engine design ([email-masked])
   9. OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah... (Jean-Leon Morin)
  10. RE: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah
       blah... (Perrone Ford)
  11. Re: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah
       blah... (Jean-Leon Morin)

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Message: 1
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:03:10 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

David writes>>>My then girlfriend had set the handbrake, and left the tranny
in
> neutral.  When we came back from dinner, she couldn't get in, because
there
> was a tree blocking the door.  Either trees grow really fast in
Cinncinati,
> or the truck had rolled several feet<<<

several years ago I returned to the Range Rover I had then and found that a
Triumph Herald had blocked me in by parking right up to the front - there
was a tree behind.
 So I eased forward in first low to 'nudge' him a little, just to get the
space.
 It was 2am and nothing else on the road (the centre of Liverpool) and I had
to sit and watch this vehicle take off, nice and slowly and describe a
pleasant curve to rest up against the opposite pavement (sidewalk-US) about
fifty yards away!
 Needless to say I got out of there real quick... didn't look like much a
slope either. I often wonder if he fixed his handbrake afterwards.

also. I parked by my friend's house (Range Rover again) and when we came out
he asked why I hadn't parked outside. My Rangie was near 100 yards away,
resting ever so neatly against a hedge. I fixed the handbrake after that
one.

also. If you have a nice, well maintained handbrake on a L/R and notice that
every now and then as you pull to a stop (using normal brakes) you have a
juddering/knocking noise, it's time to replace your gearbox mounts.....

Best Cheers

Frank
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Message: 2
From: "Brad Crittenden" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:58:06 -0400
Subject: [lro] Python/Rovers/Editting
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Ivan:

You may recall we corresponded a while back about Land Rovers and Python.  I
was intrigued to discover you wrote the Colophon for Beazleys' excellent
reference.

Now to my question:  I have been approached to act as the technical editor
for a Python book being published by a new press.  The manuscript is
reported to be only 150 pages.  The question of compensation has been raised
and I must admit I am at a loss to put a value on this work.  This will be
my first job editting a manuscript and I am doing it primarily for the
experience.  However, I do not want to give my work away.

Would you have any suggestions on a just compensation?

How is your novel progressing?  My partner recently took a leave of absence
from his job to begin work on a first novel.  Thus I am living vicariously
through the writing process.

Regards,

Brad Crittenden

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 06:41:40 -0700
From: Jeff Bieler <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] scotty's adapter/breaking
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The parking/transmission brake on my 88" holds as well as the transmission brake
on our Discovery.  Have parked on many an incline and used it off road already
as well.  After the small movement for drivetrain slop, the brake holds rock
solid.

See Ron, I do say nice things about it!

Jeff

Jim Hall wrote:

> Speak for yourself, my e-brake holds me on any incline. Just put a new
> seal in, clean the drum and shoes and adjust it and it works great In
> fact I can say that I've never had a better e-brake in any car.
>
> [email-masked] wrote:
>
> > Went through some steep stops at the rally this month and wished I had them
> > then as the leg got tired holding the break, and we all know the
> > effectiveness/trustworthiness of the e-break on reversal and/or steep
> > inclines.
>
> Jim Hall
> 1966 88" Elephant Chaser
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
> "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling
> with Jim." Mitch Stockdale
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Message: 4
From: "Brad Crittenden" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Python/Rovers/Editting
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:31:17 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

oops.

sorry about the embarrassing misdirection.

--brad

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of Brad Crittenden
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:58 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Python/Rovers/Editting

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Message: 5
From: "Rolston" <[email-masked]>
To: "LR list" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:32:52 -0400
Subject: [lro] axle straps
Reply-To: [email-masked]

What is the common thought about the need for axle straps? I left them off
after installing the Salisbury rear axle, seems to give us a bit more
articulation.  Jim, CT

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Message: 6
From: "Paul Quin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:27:15 -0700
Reply-To: [email-masked]

We've had this argument before...

But I've never heard a convincing argument for keeping them.  My LR hasn't
had them for years, with no problems to date.

The most common argument for them seems to be that without them you run the
risk of distending or locking up the drive shafts at extreme articulation
angles.  But there are lots of rigs out there with parabolic springs that
have 20% more articulation than stock and are still running stock drive
shafts with no (?) reported problems...

Paul Quin
1961 SII 88
Victoria, BC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolston" <[email-masked]>

>
> What is the common thought about the need for axle straps? I left them off
> after installing the Salisbury rear axle, seems to give us a bit more
> articulation.  Jim, CT

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Message: 7
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] axle straps
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:40:32 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I think the only real advantage to them is that you could set them up so 
they come tight just before your shocks reach full extension. When I got my 
parabolics, Ray said that I absolutely definitly had to have axle straps. 
Unfortunatly my truck didn't have any and in fact the brackets for them are 
no longer there. Guess what I haven't got around to doing yet? No problems 
so far. The big fairy tale about how if you don't have them you'll tip over 
if you look at the truck crooked is total BS.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
--author unknown

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Message: 8
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:26:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] Intake and Exhaust lengths, engine design
From: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Oops, I meant to include that.  Audie technologies.  WWW.Audietech.com . 
 My ISP is really screwed so I can't check that link, but I think under
"Products"  select Dynomation 4 cycle and the demo down load is there.
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:02:32 -1000 "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
writes:
> 
> Sounds good...download from where?
> Pete
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>

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Message: 9
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:07:04 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Yeah flowmasters are very good, but they are LOUD.

My buddy's dakota has one, and a "de-clawed" cat. That 318 V8 has a
reputation around town. The yocal redneck camaro scene all think it's some
kind of custom el-fasto rodmobile. Amazing what noise and a damn heavy foot
can do.

Loud pipes don't save lives... right?

;-)

P.S - bug gone... Had an e mail virus, gone now. I tried my best to minimize
my infectiousness by pulling the cable plug asap. Hope no one suffered
related infections, Very very sorry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kirk Hillman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...

>
> Ah, Flowmasters...
>     I currently have two of them on my vehicles.  I totally agree with
Bill
> Adams about how well they are made.  And that wonderful sound!  They don't
> burp or rat-at-at-at.  They just accentuate the exhaust slightly from a
> stock set-up.
>
> Kirk
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Message: 10
From: "Perrone Ford" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah
  blah...
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:03:30 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

	There are at least 5 different designs of Flowmaster all of varying
loudness and flow.  They make mufflers for everything from track
cars(loud)to Rv's (read: quiet).  I have a Series 50 on my RRC and its
actually quite nice.  A little loud for some I'm sure, but it has a nice
sound to it.  The 70 series which is for RV's is very quiet but doesn't flow
as well as the louder mufflers.

-P

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of Jean-Leon Morin
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:07 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...
>
>
>
> Yeah flowmasters are very good, but they are LOUD.
>
> My buddy's dakota has one, and a "de-clawed" cat. That 318 V8 has a
> reputation around town. The yocal redneck camaro scene all think it's some
> kind of custom el-fasto rodmobile. Amazing what noise and a damn
> heavy foot
> can do.
>
> Loud pipes don't save lives... right?
>
> ;-)
>
> P.S - bug gone... Had an e mail virus, gone now. I tried my best
> to minimize
> my infectiousness by pulling the cable plug asap. Hope no one suffered
> related infections, Very very sorry.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kirk Hillman <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...
>
>
> >
> > Ah, Flowmasters...
> >     I currently have two of them on my vehicles.  I totally agree with
> Bill
> > Adams about how well they are made.  And that wonderful sound!
> They don't
> > burp or rat-at-at-at.  They just accentuate the exhaust slightly from a
> > stock set-up.
> >
> > Kirk
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
From: "Jean-Leon Morin" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah
  blah...
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:57:59 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Sorry, didn't know they made sane versions.

The one that is found on the Dodge is between "full race" and "jetplane
takeoff".

J-L
----- Original Message -----
From: Perrone Ford <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...

>
> There are at least 5 different designs of Flowmaster all of varying
> loudness and flow.  They make mufflers for everything from track
> cars(loud)to Rv's (read: quiet).  I have a Series 50 on my RRC and its
> actually quite nice.  A little loud for some I'm sure, but it has a nice
> sound to it.  The 70 series which is for RV's is very quiet but doesn't
flow
> as well as the louder mufflers.
>
> -P
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> > Of Jean-Leon Morin
> > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:07 PM
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: OK TO READ NOW - Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah flowmasters are very good, but they are LOUD.
> >
> > My buddy's dakota has one, and a "de-clawed" cat. That 318 V8 has a
> > reputation around town. The yocal redneck camaro scene all think it's
some
> > kind of custom el-fasto rodmobile. Amazing what noise and a damn
> > heavy foot
> > can do.
> >
> > Loud pipes don't save lives... right?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > P.S - bug gone... Had an e mail virus, gone now. I tried my best
> > to minimize
> > my infectiousness by pulling the cable plug asap. Hope no one suffered
> > related infections, Very very sorry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kirk Hillman <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [lro] Flowmaster, was exhaust blah blah...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Ah, Flowmasters...
> > >     I currently have two of them on my vehicles.  I totally agree with
> > Bill
> > > Adams about how well they are made.  And that wonderful sound!
> > They don't
> > > burp or rat-at-at-at.  They just accentuate the exhaust slightly from
a
> > > stock set-up.
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > LRO mailing list
> > > [email-masked]
> > > http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
> > _______________________________________________
> > LRO mailing list
> > [email-masked]
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