Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #28 - 23 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Wrench Terminology (Paul Oxley)
   2. Re: Wrench Terminology ([email-masked])
   3. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (Frank Elson)
   4. RE: Peter's running problem (Tim Thorpe)
   5. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   6. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (Jim Hall)
   7. Re: Not sure what I do'ed. (Jim Hall)
   8. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (Marc Rengers)
   9. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  10. Re: Wrench Terminology (Frank Elson)
  11. Re: Peter's running problem (Kirk Hillman)
  12. Re: 1987D110 Frank Elson (Marc Rengers)
  13. Re: Wrench Terminology (Hope Peter)
  14. Engine output. (Hope Peter)
  15. Tranny Question (Carl Kinkade)
  16. Re: Engine output. (Frank Elson)
  17. Update your web link to BP (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  18. Help, I'm Stuck! (Carl Kinkade)
  19. Re: Help, I'm Stuck! (Jim Hall)
  20. Re: Help, I'm Stuck! (David Scheidt)
  21. Terminology (A. P. "Sandy" Grice)
  22. RE: Help, I'm Stuck! (Easton Trevor A)
  23. Re: Sightings (Bryan Hoult)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:05:28 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Organization: AfricanAdrenalin Safaris
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Lance da Silva wrote:

> In South Africa it is definitely known as a Shifting Spanner. Often just called a > "Shifting"

Or a Freestate micrometer.
 
Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Message: 2
From: <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:43:09 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The screwdrivers in this roll are the type supplied with jeeps during the
war and probably with other American military vehicles around the same time.
So I would doubt if they are correct for a LandRover tool roll, much sought
after by early jeep folks though.....
As for "shifting spanner", that's what it's called over here in midge land.
Normally just called a "shifter".
Cheers,

Chaz
1984 109 GS
1942 Willy MB
        http://freespace.virgin.net/chaz.mackenzie/home.htm
>This is the closest I've come to a tool roll kit other than the two empty
>rolls I picked up at Carlisle last May:
>
>http://www.simplerthyme.com/pics/toolroll.html
>
>I found one lonely Land Rover at a car show in upstate New York a few years
>ago, Cheerio was on the back door and this filled tool roll was on display
>in the back.
>
>Complete? Don't really know....
>
>Lori in NE Pennsylvania
>
>
>>At 11:13 PM 7/27/01, [email-masked] wrote:
>>I've heard them called King Dicks, which is the brand that some LBCs had
in
>>their tool kit.  I think Land-Rovers are in that set.  I've never seen a
>>complete toolkit, but the picture in the parts catalogue looks like the
King
>>Dicks I've seen out of sunbeams.  (They're utter crap, though, so it's not
a
>>big loss.)
>>--
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>>Bipedalism is only a fad.
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Message: 3
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:43:27 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

The 110 with a Turbo 2.5 engine has about 10 per cent more poke than a 2.25
109. No, I don't know the official figures, that's just from driving a few.

It would have been permanent 4wd - in 1983 the 110 was offered with a choice
of the 'old' system' but very few were sold and that offer was discontinued
in 1984.

It's a five speed box, I'll look up the actual designation number and get
back to you.

Not a vehicle that will melt any tarmac but off road the coils, of course,
give it a slight advantage over leaves (nomex knickers on).
 Of course, again, as most off-road ability is spread between the nut behind
the wheel and the tyres, that advantage can run to nought.

Someone is bound to drag out the old chestnut about loads of turbo-diesels
being returned by the UK Army because they continually blew oil seals - but
that was proved to be as a result of over-zealous filling by squaddies.

I haven't the faintest idea of the value in the US. But in the UK, without a
gearbox  which is readily available, used, and if all else is in order it
could be around 6,000 Sterling.
Best Cheers

Frank
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----- Original Message -----
From: Simon J. Harding <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson

> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
> for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
> - Cheers, Bill
> I have a line on a blue 1987 D 110 County with a 2.5 turbodiesel and a
blown transmission.  This vehicle was brought into the US legally by a
couple from England intending to travel the states and Central/South America
and the transmission blew up on them here.  They left.  It stayed.  The
transmission will be professionally replaced by a new or rebuild.
Reportedly the engine was  "gone through"  just before they left Jolly Old.
It appears to be in good shape cosmetically inside and out and a glance
underneath showed minimial/no engine oil drips over the few months its been
sitting and it looked rust free-ish.   Setting aside the issues with getting
the rig legally titled, what is this rig worth?  What sort of power /hill
climbing ability does a 2.5 TD offer?  I know nothing about 110s and even
less of 110s of this vintage.  What were the transmission options?  When I
saw it the transmission and T case were out and I don't even know if this
would be a full time 4wd or have !
> the same set up as the series rigs.  It does not have locking hubs, but
that's about all I know about 110 drive trains.
>
> And no, it does not have gold floorboards.  But I did just get a very nice
replacement floorboard for $20 no muss no fuss.  I think ya'll spent more
time on that issue than I did!
>
> Simon.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 12:39:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Tim Thorpe <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] Peter's running problem
Reply-To: [email-masked]

"Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>I am using a Stromberg BXOV-1 on my 2.25L gas.  It seems to be such a simple
>design that it is perfect for a Series.  I cannot report on performance, but
>if you need to rebuild something in the field it could not be simpler.
>
>> torque than any
>> 2.25 I have driven.  The secret?  It's in the carb, a 
>> Stromberg (sp) off a
>> old Volvo 164.  Talk about simple and elegant carb design.  

The BXOV looks like quite a simple swap, but I think its not the
sort of carb (SU type) that the previous poster was talking about.
The one from a Volvo seems to be a CD175, just like the one on a
2.6 litre LR. I don't understand, though; its a side-draft carb.
What are these Malaysians using for an inlet manifold?

Tim.
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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 01 06:29:00 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>The 110 with a Turbo 2.5 engine has about 10 per cent more poke than a 2.25
>109. No, I don't know the official figures, that's just from driving a few.

Since I just happen to have the factory published specs handy.  These are 
in order of power output.

ENGINE - Power (KW@RPM) - TORQUE (NM@RPM)

LR 2.25 Diesel - 45 @ 4000 - 140 @ 1800

LR 2.5 Diesel - 51 @ 4000 - 158 @ 1800

2.25 petrol - 52 @ 4000 - 163 @ 2000

2.5 petrol - 62 @ 4000 - 181 @ 2000

LR 2.5 T Diesel - 63 @ 4000

2.6L LR 6 cyl (7:1 EURO) - 67 @ 4500 - 178 @ 1500

LR 3.5L V8 (Stage I) - 68 @ 3500

2.6 L LR 6 cyl (7.8:1 North American) - 71 @ 4500 - 181 @ 1750

LR 200 tdi - 80 @ 4000

LR 300 tdi - 84 @ 4000 - 265 @ 1800

LR td5 (Def) - 90 @ 4200 - 300 @ 1950

LR 3.9L V8(US spec) - 136 @ 4750 - 312 @ 3100

Ford 302 petrol, ('68-70 truck) - 157 @4400 - 405 @ 2600

Except for the last engine, all these nubers were taken from Rover 
documents.

Does anyone know the torque for the 2.5 T Diesel, 200 tdi, 3.5L stage I 
????

TeriAnn         
                      http://www.overlander.net

  The world's most complete set of links connecting Rover 4X4 owners
  with Rover parts, service, accessory & sales companies world wide.

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:24:24 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have a sales brochure that I believe is from 1983, and it doesn't
even mention the "old" system, so maybe that's why almost none were
sold with it.

Frank Elson wrote:
> It would have been permanent 4wd - in 1983 the 110 was offered with a choice
> of the 'old' system' but very few were sold and that offer was discontinued
> in 1984.

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:30:21 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Not sure what I do'ed.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

So Matt, ever figure out the problem?
-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:07:41 +0200
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
From: Marc Rengers <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

on 28-07-2001 15:29, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> LR 2.5 T Diesel - 63 @ 4000 - 203 @ 1800
> 
> LR 3.5L V8 (Stage I) - 68 @ 3500 - ?
> 
> LR 200 tdi - 80 @ 4000 - 265 @ 1800
> 
> Except for the last engine, all these nubers were taken from Rover
> documents.
> 
> Does anyone know the torque for the 2.5 T Diesel, 200 tdi, 3.5L stage I
> ????

See above for the 2.5 T Diesel and the 200 TDi (the same as the 300 TDi).

Leaves open the 3.5L V8 (Stage 1).....

Marc Rengers                 +31(0)599-333110 (home)       LRCH-member
2e Barlagerweg 2a            +31(0)599-333285 (work)       LRM-reader
9591TT Onstwedde, Holland    +31(0)599-333498 (fax)        LROi-reader
[email-masked]       +31(0)6-51185046 (GSM)        LRE-reader
                                                           Mac-User
personal     : http://www.landrovertech.com/marc
landroverlist: http://www.lrlh.com                  53š01'16"N
nl-lro       : http://www.lrlh.com/nl-lro          007š03'29"E
 
  +------_             +---------_
  |!__!|__\___         |_______|__\___      spare space for another one
  | _  |  | _ |}       |  _    |  | _ |}     (in case the others fail)
  "(_)"""""(_)"        ""(_)"""""""(_)"                 :-)
   1978 SIII 88"           1990 110
 2.25 4-cyl. diesel   2.5T 4-cyl. diesel    preferably a SIII 109 StaWag
   reg. 47-DB-13         reg. VJ-19-YR                diesel
    marine blue             white         

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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 01 08:57:05 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> 200 tdi 265 @ 1800

Positive?  I think that would give the the same torque as I have listed 
for the 300 tdi.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 10
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:53:02 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

you write: >>>> I came across a term for adjustable wrench <<<

George Simmons (hi George!) a mostly lurker on this list, joined us with his
lovely wife, Pat, at Billing again this year.
 Wandering the stands with my son, Neil, George picked up an adjustable,
then said: 'this is no good, it's metric'.... Neil was fooled for a moment
or two...

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Message: 11
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Peter's running problem
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:18:04 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Tim,
    Good point about the side 'draught' style carb.  They all used a little
elbow looking piece of tubing which canted back a ways.  The really
phenomenal thing about this is two-fold.  First, it's generally accepted not
to use an air filter!  When I inquired about this (abhorrent look of disgust
still on my face), my friend laughed.  'What about dust', I asked?  'It's  a
tractor engine!', he replied.  They do it for years, in competition too,
with apparently no ill affects.  Of course that same motor may not last the
same as one with a filter that has been well maintained, but who cares?
Over there they don't rebuild the motors, they just replace them because
they are so plentiful.  ; )
    Second because of where it puts the inlet it is very protected from the
inflow of water.  The MOST protected spot under the bonnet I figure.  So,
back to the no filter thing.  I asked about the deep water wading pitfalls.
'If you are actually deep enough to get water in there you are already too
deep for your motor to run because the distributor is under water'.  I got
to thinking this made total sense.  Burn, old ideas, burn!  You might get a
few water drops in now and again but it would be 'consumed' with little
effort.  The only real concern is the hydraulic effect of lots of water.
For that matter I only saw one snorkel on all the vehicles I came across
(thousands).  That was on diesel and was more for looks than practical
purposes which I discovered after driving with the owner.
    The major downfall of this system, beside the fact that it goes against
everything I ever believed, is that  it won't work well on Left Hand Drive
vehicles.  It especially won't work on brake boosted vehicles because of
interference.  I came home so excited about all sorts of new ideas I wanted
to try from hi performance brakes to power "steering in a day",
unfortunately for the 60% of the world who follow the Yanks on their side of
the road, things are terribly more complex!  : (

Regards,
Kirk

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:24:09 +0200
Subject: Re: [lro] 1987D110 Frank Elson
From: Marc Rengers <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

on 28-07-2001 17:57, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> Positive?  I think that would give the the same torque as I have listed
> for the 300 tdi.
> 

According to the Haynes Manual.... I'll have a look in my Defender Workshop
Book.....

According to the gray Land Rover Book, it has no torque.... :-/ No
specification at all.....

Regards,

Marc Rengers                 +31(0)599-333110 (home)       LRCH-member
2e Barlagerweg 2a            +31(0)599-333285 (work)       LRM-reader
9591TT Onstwedde, Holland    +31(0)599-333498 (fax)        LROi-reader
[email-masked]       +31(0)6-51185046 (GSM)        LRE-reader
                                                           Mac-User
personal     : http://www.landrovertech.com/marc
landroverlist: http://www.lrlh.com                  53š01'16"N
nl-lro       : http://www.lrlh.com/nl-lro          007š03'29"E
 
  +------_             +---------_
  |!__!|__\___         |_______|__\___      spare space for another one
  | _  |  | _ |}       |  _    |  | _ |}     (in case the others fail)
  "(_)"""""(_)"        ""(_)"""""""(_)"                 :-)
   1978 SIII 88"           1990 110
 2.25 4-cyl. diesel   2.5T 4-cyl. diesel    preferably a SIII 109 StaWag
   reg. 47-DB-13         reg. VJ-19-YR                diesel
    marine blue             white         

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Message: 13
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 07:23:28 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> George Simmons (hi George!) a mostly lurker on this list, joined us with
his
> lovely wife, Pat, at Billing again this year.
>  Wandering the stands with my son, Neil, George picked up an adjustable,
> then said: 'this is no good, it's metric'

Yes, I had asked George to pick up a whitworth adjustable wrench for me
while he was at Billing.

;-)

Hope he brought some of the nice weather from Hawaii with him.
Pete

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Message: 14
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 07:34:53 -1000
Subject: [lro] Engine output.
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> Since I just happen to have the factory published specs handy.  These are
> in order of power output.
>
> ENGINE - Power (KW@RPM) - TORQUE (NM@RPM)
>
> LR 2.25 Diesel - 45 @ 4000 - 140 @ 1800
>
> LR 2.5 Diesel - 51 @ 4000 - 158 @ 1800
>
> 2.25 petrol - 52 @ 4000 - 163 @ 2000
>
> 2.5 petrol - 62 @ 4000 - 181 @ 2000
>

Before I venture out into my garage (storage facility) and try and find my
old physics books,
what is the formula for KW -> HP and NM -> FtLbs?

Speaking of school books, it's finally official.  After a couple of appeals,
the UHi powers at large have decided that 7 years and 190 credits is
deserving of a Bachalors degree.  Yeah :-)
Every time I would go to a grad session they would either add more classes
to my requirements or 'discover' another 'mistaken' course I had taken.
This time it was a 'new' course they told me I needed last year.  Took the
course (same one I had in writting from the advisor), this year, "oh that
was supossed to have been 115 not 111".  Oh and yeas I have spent the past
two years taking 100 level courses.  If your kids ever even think about
going to school in Hawaii you would be better advised to take all the money
and invest in some Florida swamp land.  Better return on the investment.

Pete

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Message: 15
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: "RRO" <[email-masked]>, "LRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 16:25:26 -0500
Subject: [lro] Tranny Question
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I am in the process of changing my kick down cable on a '95 RR.  I can't get
the transmission filler tube nut connected at the transmission sump to
budge, which direction does it turn to remove it?  Before I put more force
on it, I wanted to make sure I wasn't trying to go the wrong way.....I
assume you turn it counter-clockwise to remove it.

Carl

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Message: 16
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Engine output.
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:16:57 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Peter Hope wrote: >>>> Speaking of school books, it's finally official.
After a couple of appeals,
> the UHi powers at large have decided that 7 years and 190 credits is
> deserving of a Bachalors degree<<<

Congratulations Pete and strewth... you weren't actually at college all this
time were you? Earning a living as well I hope.
 I thought five years for my degree then a further seven for my doctorate
was bad enough - although I was doing it part-time while working full-time
as well...

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 01 16:01:14 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: "Dormobile" <[email-masked]>,
   "expidition LR list" <[email-masked]>, "LRO list" <[email-masked]>,
   "mendo rec list" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Update your web link to BP
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have been browsing around and have noticed that a lot of links from 
personal web sites to British Pacific now point to a site that requires a 
password to get in.

This seems to be an artifact left over from repointing the address from 
the old web site to the new web site located on a different server.

PLEASE take the time to verify and update any links you may have from 
your web site to British Pacific. 

http://www.britishpacific.com

Thanks

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Message: 18
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: "RRO" <[email-masked]>, "LRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:16:10 -0500
Subject: [lro] Help, I'm Stuck!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I am changing the kickdown cable on a '95 RR and I can not get the
transmission filler tube off.  The nut is tighter than hell.  I put a large
crescent wrench on it and pulled like hell, hit it with my hand, hit it with
a hammer, put a socket extension through the hole in the end to get more
leverage, turn the extension to make a T and pulled with both hands and I
can not get it loose. I worked for 3 hours trying to get this damn thing off
and no luck.  I have been trying to turn it counter-clockwise and even tried
pushing it clockwise to break it loose, but with no luck.

So I am stuck!!! I can't go any further until I get it off.  I looked at
undoing the filler tube from the block and pulling it down, but I don't have
the room to do it.  I don't understand why it is this tight?  The guy who
owned it before me had the dealership do all the services and the last
servicing called for the transmission filter to be changed, so I know 13,000
miles ago it was taken off, but they most cranked on it to get it this
tight.

I need the truck Monday to go out of town, so I have to get it fixed, so any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Carl

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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:28:51 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Help, I'm Stuck!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Not having an RR, all I can say is try to heat it if you can.

Carl Kinkade wrote:

> I am changing the kickdown cable on a '95 RR and I can not get the
> transmission filler tube off.  The nut is tighter than hell.  I put a large
> crescent wrench on it and pulled like hell, hit it with my hand, hit it with
> a hammer, put a socket extension through the hole in the end to get more
> leverage, turn the extension to make a T and pulled with both hands and I
> can not get it loose. I worked for 3 hours trying to get this damn thing off
> and no luck.  I have been trying to turn it counter-clockwise and even tried
> pushing it clockwise to break it loose, but with no luck.
> 
> So I am stuck!!! I can't go any further until I get it off.  I looked at
> undoing the filler tube from the block and pulling it down, but I don't have
> the room to do it.  I don't understand why it is this tight?  The guy who
> owned it before me had the dealership do all the services and the last
> servicing called for the transmission filter to be changed, so I know 13,000
> miles ago it was taken off, but they most cranked on it to get it this
> tight.
> 
> I need the truck Monday to go out of town, so I have to get it fixed, so any
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Carl
> 
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-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:35:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Help, I'm Stuck!
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Jim Hall wrote:

:Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
:	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
:	- Cheers, Bill
:Not having an RR, all I can say is try to heat it if you can.
:

Heat, and make sure there's not a retainer or something.  And lots of your
favorite penetrating oil.

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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:35:20 -0500
To: [email-masked]
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Rick Grant <[email-masked]> wrote:

>I came across a term for adjustable wrench tonight on a Junkyard Wars web 
>site that I had never seen before.

>"shifting spanner"

>I've seen crescent wrench of course, and clyde spanner, but never shifting 
>spanner.  Any other terms out there for this indispensable knuckle gasher?

Ummm...how about "hammer"....

Cheers             

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  |              A. P. "Sandy" Grice                   |
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  |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
  |  (757)423-4898  (757)622-7054  FAX (757)622-7056   |
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Message: 22
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "'Carl Kinkade '" <[email-masked]>, "'RRO '" <[email-masked]>,
   "'LRO '" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Help, I'm Stuck!
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:42:30 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

  I don't understand why it is this tight?  The guy
who
owned it before me had the dealership do all the services and the last
servicing called for the transmission filter to be changed, so I know
13,000
miles ago it was taken off, but they most cranked on it to get it this
tight.

Carl

Maybe they used Loctite as a sealant locking compound. Try a little heat on
the nut. I ought to shift with a long bar on it. What you need is a shifting
spanner :-)

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Message: 23
Date: 28 Jul 2001 23:16:33 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: Bryan Hoult <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Sightings
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Fri, 27 July 2001, "N Forbes" wrote:

> <P>Whoa! Big U.S. cities sure do have more Rovers than little Canadian ones. 

As it turns out, little Norwegian towns have a fair number of 109's and 110's as well!  I'm over here for a little R & R (rest and relatives) and I have seen a surprising number, including a SIII 109 by a nice little cabin on a lake near Ytre Ennebakk - anyone on the list?

Bryan
62 88
70 109

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