Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #27 - 25 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Turn indicator fixed: Answer within (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
   2. Re: Peter's running problem (Kirk Hillman)
   3. RE: RE: Peter's Running problem.. (Tackley, John)
   4. RE: Peter's running problem (Sergi, Michael)
   5. Re: Exhaust Brakes ([email-masked])
   6. RE: RE: Peter's Running problem.. (Easton Trevor A)
   7. RE: RE: Peter's Running problem.. (Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus)
   8. P4 Brake cylinder (Easton Trevor A)
   9. Prop shaft (William L Leacock)
  10. OIL flow (William L Leacock)
  11. Re: Turn indicator fixed: Answer within (Hope Peter)
  12. Re: Prop shaft (Keith Tanner)
  13. Web Pages (Hope Peter)
  14. Sightings (N Forbes)
  15. Re: Running problem (was: Re: [lro] gps) (N Forbes)
  16. plastic floor panels (Simon J. Harding)
  17. RE: Sightings (Sergi, Michael)
  18. RE: Sightings (N Forbes)
  19. Sightings (Peter Ogilvie)
  20. RE: Sightings (Sergi, Michael)
  21. Wrench Terminology (Rick Grant)
  22. Re: Wrench Terminology (David Scheidt)
  23. Re: Wrench Terminology (Lori Sickley)
  24. Re: Wrench Terminology (Lance da Silva)
  25. Re: Wrench Terminology (G. Mugele)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [lro] Turn indicator fixed: Answer within
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:52:32 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>Even though the voltmeter tested ok at the socket, the test lamp wouldn't
>light.

Considering what you do for a living failure analysis should be second
nature.....8*)

It's all down to current. Put simply, the input resistance of the digital
voltmeter you're using is so high that it doesn't load the circuit under
test. As such, the miniscule amount of current that manages to flow through
all the corrosion is enough to make the meter register a voltage.

The test lamp, however, puts on a real-world load which points out the
failure....

THink of it the same as a fuel-pump partial failure - you can feed the
engine at idle, but not under load going up a hill.....

                    ajr

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Message: 2
From: "Kirk Hillman" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Peter's running problem
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 05:56:08 -0600
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Pete,
    Thanks for the links.

    From the diagram I see that the jets I referred to as the main jets were
actually 'Air Corrector Jets'.  Those other ones at the bottom of the float
bowl are actually the main jets.
    Now I am confused.  To get the carb to idle properly my friend (more
educated in such things) changed the air jets from the stock 150 to 175.
Remembering from yesterday, I believe the main jets were 150 as well.  For
those that know, do 150 mains and 175 air jets seem right for around 3500'?
I am used to changing main jets and emulsion tubes... and only then
adjusting the air mixture with a screw.  It seems a little 'suspicious' that
I lucked out without having to change the mains.  Am I paranoid?

Kirk

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Message: 3
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: Peter's Running problem..
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 08:42:48 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks Richard,

...having no experience with the 'jake brake', it didn't occur to me, but it
certainly sounds plausible...that's what I like about this list...we LROs
can look at axactly the same thing or the same problem and each see
something different and unique, or envision different yet effective
solutions...

JT/ric

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Message: 4
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Peter's running problem
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:24:08 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I am using a Stromberg BXOV-1 on my 2.25L gas.  It seems to be such a simple
design that it is perfect for a Series.  I cannot report on performance, but
if you need to rebuild something in the field it could not be simpler.

> torque than any
> 2.25 I have driven.  The secret?  It's in the carb, a 
> Stromberg (sp) off a
> old Volvo 164.  Talk about simple and elegant carb design.  

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:13:09 -0700
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Exhaust Brakes
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Exhaust brakes like the brand name JAKE BRAKE work on the fuel injectors
that are directly activated by a mechanical means like the valves are.  The
"brake" when applied holds the injector via the third rocker arm, down
stopping the engine from putting any more fuel into itself, thus the engine
becomes a big air compressor.  These units are mounted between the cylinder
head and the valve cover.  These are prioritize units and are activated by a
electric solenoid.

Jon Nyhus

> Exhaust brakes (jake brakes) are not effective on gas engines, as the
> compression ratio is not enough to produce a noticeable difference. It
might
> be a good method to slow you down on a grade, but it won't really haul you
> down quick.
>
> On a diesel, Jake brakes are usually found right at the cylinder head,
and,
> from memory, I remember some which would actually feed explosions from one
> cyl to the next, while the piston was travelling upwards, effectively
> slowing down the piston quite a bit.  The expansion would equalise
pressure
> between both cylinders, with some venting, which was controlled by the
user.
> The successive blasts of exhaust exiting the combustion chamber are what
> causes the loud as heck but way cool BRAAAAAAP. (Pretty sure that's how it
> works, not 100% - been a while since I took one apart).
>

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Message: 6
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: Peter's Running problem..
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:44:10 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

	[Easton Trevor A]  A further alternative to braking is the P4 rover
brake cylinder which has a handbrake mechanism included. One of these on
each wheel at the back and you have a conventional (?) handbrake. Even
fiddle brakes if you use individual cables and levers.
	John Tackley wrote  
> ...having no experience with the 'jake brake', it didn't occur to me, but
> it
> certainly sounds plausible...that's what I like about this list...we LROs
> can look at axactly the same thing or the same problem and each see
> something different and unique, or envision different yet effective
> solutions...
> 
> 

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Message: 7
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: Peter's Running problem..
To: [email-masked]
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:53:31 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Re: P4 brake cylinder:

Hmmmm...that does sound interesting - think of it as poor man's
positraction....

More the poin t, the extra safety wouldn't hurt.

Any idea where these might be available, Trevor?

                    ajr

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Message: 8
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:15:06 -0400
Subject: [lro] P4 Brake cylinder
Reply-To: [email-masked]

                    ajr wrote

> Any idea where these might be available, Trevor?
> 
	[Easton Trevor A]  Off a P4 !!!
	Seriuosly though Rimmers may have something like that. 

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Message: 9
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:44:05 -0400
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Prop shaft
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Keith writes   Alan wins again. I just rotated the ends of the propshaft
so that the yokes 
were in phase (easy - only have to undo one end of the shaft for that)
and 
Basil is running as smooth as...well, as smooth as a Land Rover usually
runs.

For reference, the prop shafts are usually marked at the slider end with
an arrow on ech part, if re assembling the slide joint, align the two
arrows, this not only preserves the phasing, but preserves the original
balancing too. 

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 10
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:40:43 -0400
From: William L Leacock <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] OIL flow
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Mike, if there is no oil flow through the external pipe, then there is no
oil to the valve rocker shaft.  When you pulled the oil pipe did you just
disconnect it from the top ?
 The banjo bolts which secure the pipe to the head and block have a very
small hole for the oil to pass through. These can easly become blocked. 
If you have no=t already tried, remove the pipe completely and check for
oil flow. If there is no oil flow then you have a blockage in the
internal holes of the block.  The head gasket scenario you mention will
not affect flow to the valve train.

Regards from Western New York State

  Bill Leacock.

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Message: 11
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Turn indicator fixed: Answer within
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:24:02 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> THink of it the same as a fuel-pump partial failure - you can feed the
> engine at idle, but not under load going up a hill.....
> 
>                     ajr

Sounds like that was directed at me.....hahahahahaha
Pete

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:39:10 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Prop shaft
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>For reference, the prop shafts are usually marked at the slider end with
>an arrow on ech part, if re assembling the slide joint, align the two
>arrows, this not only preserves the phasing, but preserves the original
>balancing too.

The Green Bible describes these. However, I was unable to find them under 
35 years of dirt mud and general Land Rover growth. There are only two ways 
to assemble the joint and have the yokes aligned, so I suppose it would not 
be difficult to try both should that be required.

On a happy note, Basil has never felt better. The original springs were 
apparantly not Land Rover springs, as they had a big helper on the rear. 
None of the shocks would extend themselves when I compressed them and there 
were no bushings in them anyhow. So you can imagine that the truck tended 
to careen on the highway. The first "high speed" run shows a radically 
improved truck despite the increased ride height. Better tracking, better 
steering feel, no clunks and bangs, no oscillation above 60 mph. I'm a 
happy camper.

Keith

------------
Keith's page de home:
    http://keith.miata.net
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Message: 13
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>, "Mendo_Recce" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:36:02 -1000
Subject: [lro] Web Pages
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Aloha,
a couple of people wrote about some problems with my web host.  Seems they
had a server go down and didn't reconfigure my webspace correctly so it's
been offline for a couple weeks.
The problem has been corrected, thank you for your patiance
Peter Hope
www.aloharovers.com
www.thehopes.net

ps. please DON'T do a respond to all to this message.

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Message: 14
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:29:42 +0000
Subject: [lro] Sightings
Reply-To: [email-masked]

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>Whoa! Big U.S. cities sure do have more Rovers than little Canadian ones. I here in Houston and I've seen two 4.0 SE Range Rovers, numerous Discoverys, and two (or maybe it's the same one) white NAS D90 soft tops. There are tons of Texas Cadillacs (i.e. Suburbans) around.</P>
<P>Anyone know of any cool things to do in town?</P>
<P>later,<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>Niall Forbes </DIV>66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit 
<DIV></DIV>Dartmouth, Nova Scotia 
<DIV></DIV>The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>"See the happy moron, 
<DIV></DIV>He doesn't give a damn. 
<DIV></DIV>I wish I were a moron. 
<DIV></DIV>My God! Perhaps I am!" 
<DIV></DIV>--author unknown 
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Message: 15
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Running problem (was: Re: [lro] gps)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:33:56 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>Re: Fuel pressure</P>
<P>1-2 lbs is the stock fuel pressure.<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>Niall Forbes </DIV>66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit 
<DIV></DIV>Dartmouth, Nova Scotia 
<DIV></DIV>The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>"See the happy moron, 
<DIV></DIV>He doesn't give a damn. 
<DIV></DIV>I wish I were a moron. 
<DIV></DIV>My God! Perhaps I am!" 
<DIV></DIV>--author unknown 
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Message: 16
From: "Simon J. Harding" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:35:52 -0700
Subject: [lro] plastic floor panels
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I was just talking to a guy in Seattle named Steven Madsen.  He's in the process of a frame off restoration of a 68 109 SW.  Steve saw my request on a local board (Pacific Coast Rover Club)  for floor panels.  Turns out that he recently visited Boeing's surplus store and bought a panel of 3/8ths tinted acrylic, took his router and made see through floor panels/skylights (depending on whether you are in or under the rover)!!!!!  he has photos of his rig on the web at www.thebusco.com/mylandy/2, but he tells me there are none depicting the floor panels.  I made him promise to post some soon.

If anyone contacts his website, he could use some help with electrical problems he's having.  Likely a bad solenoid.

Simon

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Message: 17
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Sightings
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:49:19 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I'm located in Houston.  What would you like to do and I can point you in
the right direction?
 
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: N Forbes [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:30 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Sightings

Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo for list operations go to
http://koan.team.net/mailman/index - Cheers, Bill 

Whoa! Big U.S. cities sure do have more Rovers than little Canadian ones. I
here in Houston and I've seen two 4.0 SE Range Rovers, numerous Discoverys,
and two (or maybe it's the same one) white NAS D90 soft tops. There are tons
of Texas Cadillacs (i.e. Suburbans) around.

Anyone know of any cool things to do in town?

later,

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Message: 18
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [lro] Sightings
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:03:37 +0000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>Well, I'm not sure. I think we're going to see NASA tomorrow. Are there any must see things around town?<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>Niall Forbes </DIV>66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit 
<DIV></DIV>Dartmouth, Nova Scotia 
<DIV></DIV>The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>"See the happy moron, 
<DIV></DIV>He doesn't give a damn. 
<DIV></DIV>I wish I were a moron. 
<DIV></DIV>My God! Perhaps I am!" 
<DIV></DIV>--author unknown 
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Message: 19
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:31:26 -1000
Subject: [lro] Sightings
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Just returned from a trip to Kalamazoo.  In the past, I've always noticed 
the autos were predominantly GM, Ford, etc. of American design and 
manufacture.  Foreign cars were few and far between.  Over the last 4 years 
have only seen one Land Rover which was a 109 that looked very much like a 
110.  This time back, found that there is a Land Rover dealership in Grand 
Rapids and saw at least 5 Disco's running around Kalamazoo.  Wonder if 
Ford's purchase of Land Rover has suddenly made Land Rover's acceptable to 
the Mid Westerners??  That's the only thing that I can think of that would 
account for the sudden appearance of Land Rovers in the past year.  Also 
noticed an increased number of Volvo, SAAB, and Jaguar autos zipping around. 
  Does that have anything to do with these companies purchase by American 
Car Companies???  Unlike Hawaii where Japanese and other Asian autos 
overwhelm all other makes, seems that most of the foreign autos were 
European origin back there.  About the only exception was the Toyota Camry 
which has got to be the most boring auto on the road.

Aloha
Peter Ogilvie
Kona Coffee Rover
1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering
     from exposure of the dark side.
1966 109 pickup 'slime'  In my garage since '90, finally running.
1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava.
196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will
     certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust

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Message: 20
From: "Sergi, Michael" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Sightings
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:36:55 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Probably has something to do with the fact that employees of Ford can now
buy Volvo, SAAB, Jaguar and Land Rover on the Ford A-plan.

Mike

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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:28:51 -0600
To: [email-masked]
From: Rick Grant <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I came across a term for adjustable wrench tonight on a Junkyard Wars web 
site that I had never seen before.

"shifting spanner"

I've seen crescent wrench of course, and clyde spanner, but never shifting 
spanner.  Any other terms out there for this indispensable knuckle gasher?

                                             Rick Grant

  				  1959 Series II   "88"
				  VORIZO

Rick Grant Communications
Media and Crisis Management
Calgary Ottawa
www.rickgrant.com

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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:13:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Rick Grant wrote:

:Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
:	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
:	- Cheers, Bill
:
:I came across a term for adjustable wrench tonight on a Junkyard Wars web
:site that I had never seen before.
:
:"shifting spanner"
:
:I've seen crescent wrench of course, and clyde spanner, but never shifting
:spanner.  Any other terms out there for this indispensable knuckle gasher?
:

I've heard them called King Dicks, which is the brand that some LBCs had in
their tool kit.  I think Land-Rovers are in that set.  I've never seen a
complete toolkit, but the picture in the parts catalogue looks like the King
Dicks I've seen out of sunbeams.  (They're utter crap, though, so it's not a
big loss.)
-- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:02:37 -0400
To: [email-masked]
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

This is the closest I've come to a tool roll kit other than the two empty 
rolls I picked up at Carlisle last May:

http://www.simplerthyme.com/pics/toolroll.html

I found one lonely Land Rover at a car show in upstate New York a few years 
ago, Cheerio was on the back door and this filled tool roll was on display 
in the back.

Complete? Don't really know....

Lori in NE Pennsylvania

>At 11:13 PM 7/27/01, [email-masked] wrote:
>I've heard them called King Dicks, which is the brand that some LBCs had in
>their tool kit.  I think Land-Rovers are in that set.  I've never seen a
>complete toolkit, but the picture in the parts catalogue looks like the King
>Dicks I've seen out of sunbeams.  (They're utter crap, though, so it's not a
>big loss.)
>--
>[email-masked]
>Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Message: 24
From: "Lance da Silva" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:18:39 +0200
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In South Africa it is definitely known as a Shifting Spanner. Often just called a "Shifting"

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:28:51 -0600, Rick Grant wrote:

>Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>	- Cheers, Bill
>
>I came across a term for adjustable wrench tonight on a Junkyard Wars web 
>site that I had never seen before.
>
>"shifting spanner"
>
>I've seen crescent wrench of course, and clyde spanner, but never shifting 
>spanner.  Any other terms out there for this indispensable knuckle gasher?
>
>                                             Rick Grant
>
>  				  1959 Series II   "88"
>				  VORIZO
>
>
>
>Rick Grant Communications
>Media and Crisis Management
>Calgary Ottawa
>www.rickgrant.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>LRO mailing list
>[email-masked]
>http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:00:08 -0700
To: [email-masked]
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Wrench Terminology
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At 12:02 AM -0400 7/28/01, Lori Sickley wrote:
>This is the closest I've come to a tool roll kit other than the two 
>empty rolls I picked up at Carlisle last May:
>
>http://www.simplerthyme.com/pics/toolroll.html
>
>I found one lonely Land Rover at a car show in upstate New York a 
>few years ago, Cheerio was on the back door and this filled tool 
>roll was on display in the back.

Hi,

That looks more like the tool roll for some sort of wooden horse 
drawn carriage.  Okay, I agree a series LR isn't all that much more 
evolved but the stock tool kits were really quite impressive.

I say this with the authority of having owned two complete sets.  One 
came with each of my 88 station wagons purchased new; a '69 and a 
'72.  They included a relatively complete set of somewhat crude but 
very substantial open end whitworth spanners.  One spanner had a 
plain end for opening the crankcase and differential drains.  There 
was a king dick which could also double as a light hammer or small 
anvil.  The pliers were very nice and included a nice wire cutter. 
The set for the 69 also included a wire stripper, perhaps in remorse 
for the lucas electrickery.  They supplied a "key" with feeler gauge 
for adjusting the points, a grease gun, tire pump, a tiny file for 
dressing the points, spark plug wrench, a rather pathetically wimpy 
lug wrench, and a single "carpenters screwdriver" with a wooden 
handle.  I'm sure I left a few items out but you get the idea.  They 
really did include most if the tools you might need for reasonable 
field repair/maintenance.

Worst feature of the set was that, like the tool kits on Japanese 
motorcycles, once something was taken out there never seemed to be 
adequate room or an appropriate place to return it.  I suspect that 
this is a factor in why it is now seemingly impossible to find a 
complete set.

       _
     / o\_         Gerald Mugele
    /   )-- \       [email-masked]
   /    |            Glen Ellen, CA
*** "It's not on any map - true places never are."  -- Mark Twain 

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