Subject: LRO digest, Vol 1 #22 - 26 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. general solicitation for hands-on tuning help (Chris Oles)
   2. Tranny Problem II (Carl Kinkade)
   3. Re: general solicitation for hands-on tuning help (Mike Rogers)
   4. Re: Initializing a GPS III (Hope Peter)
   5. 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale (TeriAnn Wakeman)
   6. Re: Tranny Problem II (John Cranfield)
   7. Re: 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale (Jim Hall)
   8. RE: Tranny Problem II (Carl Kinkade)
   9. RE: Tranny Problem II (Carl Kinkade)
  10. Re: Tranny Problem II (John Cranfield)
  11. RE: Priming a diesel (Brad Crittenden)
  12. RE: Tranny Problem II (Carl Kinkade)
  13. Re: Priming a diesel (John Cranfield)
  14. RE: Tranny Problem II (Tim Czajka)
  15. RE: RE: Tranny Problem II (Carl Kinkade)
  16. Re: 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale (M. Tompkins)
  17. Re: 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale (TeriAnn Wakeman)
  18. Re: 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale (Bill Fishel)
  19. Shattered my rear diff  spider gears (Bill Fishel)
  20. Riddle me this (Mark Pilkington)
  21. Re: Riddle me this (Jim Hall)
  22. Re: Riddle me this (David Scheidt)
  23. Re: Riddle me this ([email-masked])
  24. RE: Tranny Problem II (Tim Czajka)
  25. gps (Hope Peter)
  26. RE: gps (Perrone Ford)

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Message: 1
From: "Chris Oles" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 15:27:08 
Subject: [lro] general solicitation for hands-on tuning help
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Was wondering if someone in the Chicago area would be willing to give me a 
hand sometime in the next few weekends sorting out some ignition/engine 
problems (2.25 petrol).  Food and beverages would be included of course :-)

Feel free to drop me a line off-line.  Vehicle location is in western 
suburbs of Westmont.

Thanks all!

Chris
70 SIIa 88

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Message: 2
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO" <[email-masked]>, "RRO" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 10:55:04 -0500
Subject: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard to
press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and then
she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
1st....it just revs up.

The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that I
let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak, but
why would that matter?

Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.

Tranny Problem II
I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.

It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into 2nd it
slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up on
the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on both
the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
opinions from some of the LRO people.

Carl
'95 RR LWB

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Message: 3
From: "Mike Rogers" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] general solicitation for hands-on tuning help
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:36:57 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Throw in an air ticket from the UK and I will gladly help:-)

Mike Rogers
Lightweight/Range Rover hybrid
LPG V8 110 project (thanks to Marijn)
(if you can't get there in a Land Rover you can't get there)

> Was wondering if someone in the Chicago area would be willing to give me a
> hand sometime in the next few weekends sorting out some ignition/engine
> problems (2.25 petrol).  Food and beverages would be included of course
:-)

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Message: 4
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Initializing a GPS III
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:30:23 -1000
Reply-To: [email-masked]

> This is an external altimeter, I trust?  The alititude function of GPS
isn't
> worth much.
yes it is.
never knew that about the gps altimeter.  Thx
Pete

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 01 12:17:27 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: "LRO list" <[email-masked]>,
   "mendo rec list" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I need more space so something has to go

A set of 4 wine glasses

>From the ANARC* Land Rover 50 anniv. meet in Greek Peak New York, 1998

These are the glasses that Pirelli had made specifically for this Land 
Rover fiftieth anniversary meet and distributed at the party.

Etched on one side is the ANARC logo on the other side is the Pirelli 
logo.

*ANARC, Association of North American Rover Clubs

I would like $20 plus shipping costs for all four wine glasses

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
[email-masked]           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.shadow-catcher.net      <- Photography for sale
http://www.overlander.net          <- Web directory for Land Rover 
http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   <- My personal web site

"In the world of type A & type B drivers consider me a type C gypsy  
traveler.  Destinations are optional and not necessarily desirable."

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:25:13 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Reply-To: [email-masked]

It sound like a siezed kick down cable.
This a cable that connects the trottle linkage to the tranny and tells
the the box to shift down when you floor the gas pedal.
John and Muddy

Carl Kinkade wrote:
> 
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> >From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
> Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
> other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
> started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard to
> press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and then
> she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
> 1st....it just revs up.
> 
> The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that I
> let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak, but
> why would that matter?
> 
> Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.
> 
> Tranny Problem II
> I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.
> 
> It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into 2nd it
> slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
> 3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up on
> the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
> speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on both
> the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
> opinions from some of the LRO people.
> 
> Carl
> '95 RR LWB
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 14:46:13 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

But what will you drink your wine out of if you sell them, Series fuel
pump bowls? ;)

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> I need more space so something has to go
> 
> A set of 4 wine glasses
> 
> >From the ANARC* Land Rover 50 anniv. meet in Greek Peak New York, 1998
> 
> These are the glasses that Pirelli had made specifically for this Land
> Rover fiftieth anniversary meet and distributed at the party.

-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 8
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: "RRO" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:06:43 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I have some more info on it.  It revs up to about 4300 rpm and about 50 mph
before it goes into 3rd and it shifts really hard.  I didn't have a chance
to go out to a highway to try to get it into fourth gear.

But according to the workshop manual that is normal for Full Throttle:
FT1-2, 29 to 34 mph and 3950 to 4650 rpm
FT2-3, 55 to 60 mph and 4350 to 4800 rpm
FT3-4, 74 to 80 and 3980 to 4330 rpm

But not normal for Light Throttle, which is what I was doing:
LT1-2, 9 to 10 mph, and 1180 to 1220 rpm
LT2-3, 18 to 22 mph, and 1420 to 1820 rpm
LT3-4, 26 to 30 mph, and 1430 to 1650 rpm

So why would it act like a full throttle when I am only doing a light
throttle?  And when it is in 2nd, if I let off of it, it acts like I just
put it into neutral.  It revs up but doesn't gain any speed and in fact it
slows down.  But if I let completely off and let it slow down, I can then
accelerate in 1st and then it "slides" into 2nd and then revs up again to
4300 rpm before shifting into 3rd.

Thanks for the thoughts,

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of John Cranfield
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II

Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
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It sound like a siezed kick down cable.
This a cable that connects the trottle linkage to the tranny and tells
the the box to shift down when you floor the gas pedal.
John and Muddy

Carl Kinkade wrote:
>
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> >From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
> Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
> other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
> started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard
to
> press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and
then
> she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
> 1st....it just revs up.
>
> The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that I
> let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak,
but
> why would that matter?
>
> Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.
>
> Tranny Problem II
> I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.
>
> It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into 2nd
it
> slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
> 3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up
on
> the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
> speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on
both
> the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
> opinions from some of the LRO people.
>
> Carl
> '95 RR LWB
>
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Message: 9
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:12:40 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I got under it and look at the kick down cable and it looks like a bear to
change.  It looks like you have to drop the exhaust to get to it, is there
an easier way of doing that or is there a way to check if it is seized
without removing it?

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of John Cranfield
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II

Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
	- Cheers, Bill
It sound like a siezed kick down cable.
This a cable that connects the trottle linkage to the tranny and tells
the the box to shift down when you floor the gas pedal.
John and Muddy

Carl Kinkade wrote:
>
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> >From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
> Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
> other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
> started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard
to
> press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and
then
> she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
> 1st....it just revs up.
>
> The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that I
> let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak,
but
> why would that matter?
>
> Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.
>
> Tranny Problem II
> I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.
>
> It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into 2nd
it
> slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
> 3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up
on
> the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
> speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on
both
> the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
> opinions from some of the LRO people.
>
> Carl
> '95 RR LWB
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:24:08 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Reply-To: [email-masked]

At the throttle link age end you should perhaps be able to grasp it end
of the cable and move it by hand.
Get some one under to see if the tranny end moves.
Note this  theoretical as I can't say I have needed to do this.
John

Carl Kinkade wrote:
> 
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> I got under it and look at the kick down cable and it looks like a bear to
> change.  It looks like you have to drop the exhaust to get to it, is there
> an easier way of doing that or is there a way to check if it is seized
> without removing it?
> 
> Carl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of John Cranfield
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:25 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II
> 
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> It sound like a siezed kick down cable.
> This a cable that connects the trottle linkage to the tranny and tells
> the the box to shift down when you floor the gas pedal.
> John and Muddy
> 
> Carl Kinkade wrote:
> >
> > Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
> >         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
> >         - Cheers, Bill
> > >From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
> > Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
> > other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
> > started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard
> to
> > press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and
> then
> > she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
> > 1st....it just revs up.
> >
> > The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that I
> > let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak,
> but
> > why would that matter?
> >
> > Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.
> >
> > Tranny Problem II
> > I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.
> >
> > It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into 2nd
> it
> > slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
> > 3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up
> on
> > the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
> > speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on
> both
> > the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
> > opinions from some of the LRO people.
> >
> > Carl
> > '95 RR LWB
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
From: "Brad Crittenden" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Priming a diesel
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:25:14 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

John:

Thanks for the suggestion.  I gave it a try this morning with no luck.  I'll
try again soon.

On a related note, do diesels flood like a gasoline engine?  Hmm, now that I
think about it, I don't know if fuel-injected gasoline engines "flood".  So
I guess my question, is there any harm in cranking with a fully-depressed
throttle or pumping the hand pump too much?

--Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: John Cranfield
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:08 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Priming a diesel

After you have evacuated all the air from the pump body you will have to
crack open 1 or 2 of the injector pipes at the injectors then crank
until  air-less diesel is pumped from the pipes. By this time the engine
is likely starting to fire on the 2 cylinders with the pipes still
firmly attached. retighten the 2 loose pipes and start the engine.
John and Muddy

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Message: 12
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] Tranny Problem II
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:45:17 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks John and everyone else for the suggestions.  I'm a sweating mess from
working on it.  It is in the high 90's here today with a heat index in the
100's, so I am soaking up some AC inside right now.  The rover is dark green
and you bake under the bonnet in this heat.  I let it set for a couple of
hours after driving it and everything was still hot under there.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of John Cranfield
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 4:24 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II

Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
	- Cheers, Bill
At the throttle link age end you should perhaps be able to grasp it end
of the cable and move it by hand.
Get some one under to see if the tranny end moves.
Note this  theoretical as I can't say I have needed to do this.
John

Carl Kinkade wrote:
>
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> I got under it and look at the kick down cable and it looks like a bear to
> change.  It looks like you have to drop the exhaust to get to it, is there
> an easier way of doing that or is there a way to check if it is seized
> without removing it?
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of John Cranfield
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:25 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [lro] Tranny Problem II
>
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> It sound like a siezed kick down cable.
> This a cable that connects the trottle linkage to the tranny and tells
> the the box to shift down when you floor the gas pedal.
> John and Muddy
>
> Carl Kinkade wrote:
> >
> > Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
> >         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
> >         - Cheers, Bill
> > >From Tranny Problem I, for the people who missed it.
> > Well, the weirdest thing just happened.  The rover drove fine yesterday,
> > other than the boil over problem, and then today my wife got in it and
> > started to go somewhere and then came back.  She said the pedal was hard
> to
> > press down, so then she gave it more pressure until it "broke free" and
> then
> > she said it worked fine (the pedal), but now it doesn't shift out of
> > 1st....it just revs up.
> >
> > The only thing I did between driving yesterday and this morning was that
I
> > let it idle with the AC on to heat up in order to find the coolant leak,
> but
> > why would that matter?
> >
> > Is my tranny out?  I checked the fluid and it was fine.
> >
> > Tranny Problem II
> > I just ran it around the block again and here is what it is doing.
> >
> > It either stays in 1st and doesn't shift to 2nd or if it does go into
2nd
> it
> > slides into it, not shifting like it did.  But it never goes from 2nd to
> > 3rd, the engine just revives up.  And after it is in 2nd and if I let up
> on
> > the pedal, it won't go back to 2nd....the engine just revives up but my
> > speed doesn't change.  It just slows down to about 15 mph.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.  And I apologize for posting this on
> both
> > the RRO and the LRO since it is a '95 RR LWB, but I wanted to hear the
> > opinions from some of the LRO people.
> >
> > Carl
> > '95 RR LWB
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > LRO mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://land-rover.team.net/mailman/listinfo/lro
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:51:21 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Priming a diesel
Reply-To: [email-masked]

You cannot flood a diesel with the hand pump. However it is possible to
flood a diesel by cranking long after it wont start. If this happens
pull the stop control or disconnectthe shut off solenoid and attempt to
start the engine.
In your case I still suspect air in the system.
John and Muddy

Brad Crittenden wrote:
> 
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
>         for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
>         - Cheers, Bill
> John:
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I gave it a try this morning with no luck.  I'll
> try again soon.
> 
> On a related note, do diesels flood like a gasoline engine?  Hmm, now that I
> think about it, I don't know if fuel-injected gasoline engines "flood".  So
> I guess my question, is there any harm in cranking with a fully-depressed
> throttle or pumping the hand pump too much?
> 
> --Brad
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cranfield
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:08 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [lro] Priming a diesel
> 
> After you have evacuated all the air from the pump body you will have to
> crack open 1 or 2 of the injector pipes at the injectors then crank
> until  air-less diesel is pumped from the pipes. By this time the engine
> is likely starting to fire on the 2 cylinders with the pipes still
> firmly attached. retighten the 2 loose pipes and start the engine.
> John and Muddy
> 
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Message: 14
From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:25:23 -0600
Subject: [lro] RE: Tranny Problem II
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Karl Kinkade wrote:
>She said the pedal was hard to press down, so then she gave it more 
>pressure until it "broke free" ...
>
I have never seen the Range Rover tranny but it is
probably controlled by a combo of electronics and
as John mentioned a TV cable.  The cable is usually
linked in some way to the throttle and that might
explain your wife having to press hard on the
pedal.  Sounds like the TV cable is fouling with
the throttle linkage in some way.

The TV cable MUST be adjusted precisely or you
can ruin the tranny in short order.  Misadjustment
can cause all kinds of problems that appear to
be major tranny problems.  The TV cable on my Jeep
got misadjusted by some bozo (me) and the tranny
was shifting early and slipping the 1-2 shift.
I finally played around with the cable and fixed
the problem.  A misadjusted cable could burn up
the tranny with early shifts and slipped shifts.
If your cable is not stretched or broken it should
be relatively easy (assuming access) to adjust -
but there usually is a precise procedure that
will require a manual to explain.

Good luck it's hot as hell also here in Eastern
Colorado.  Three of the five trees I planted
this spring are already dead.  So hot I had to
stop drinking heavy beer and got a case of
Old Style.  Suprisingly hard to find here but
when it comes to cheap beer I go with my
midwestern roots - Point, Rhinelander, Shlitz.
Ah the good old days ...

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88

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Message: 15
From: "Carl Kinkade" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] RE: Tranny Problem II
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:37:20 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Thanks Tim,  It must be hotter there than here if your resorting to Old
Style and there is probably a reason it is hard to find. : )

I thought all of you Coloradoans (sp?) drank Coors?  Or is that just John
Elway? :)

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
Of Tim Czajka
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:25 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] RE: Tranny Problem II

Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
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	- Cheers, Bill
Karl Kinkade wrote:
>She said the pedal was hard to press down, so then she gave it more
>pressure until it "broke free" ...
>
I have never seen the Range Rover tranny but it is
probably controlled by a combo of electronics and
as John mentioned a TV cable.  The cable is usually
linked in some way to the throttle and that might
explain your wife having to press hard on the
pedal.  Sounds like the TV cable is fouling with
the throttle linkage in some way.

The TV cable MUST be adjusted precisely or you
can ruin the tranny in short order.  Misadjustment
can cause all kinds of problems that appear to
be major tranny problems.  The TV cable on my Jeep
got misadjusted by some bozo (me) and the tranny
was shifting early and slipping the 1-2 shift.
I finally played around with the cable and fixed
the problem.  A misadjusted cable could burn up
the tranny with early shifts and slipped shifts.
If your cable is not stretched or broken it should
be relatively easy (assuming access) to adjust -
but there usually is a precise procedure that
will require a manual to explain.

Good luck it's hot as hell also here in Eastern
Colorado.  Three of the five trees I planted
this spring are already dead.  So hot I had to
stop drinking heavy beer and got a case of
Old Style.  Suprisingly hard to find here but
when it comes to cheap beer I go with my
midwestern roots - Point, Rhinelander, Shlitz.
Ah the good old days ...

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:18:12 -0400
From: "M. Tompkins" <[email-masked]>
Organization: M&M Stained Glass
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Jim Hall wrote:

> But what will you drink your wine out of if you sell them, Series fuel
> pump bowls? ;)

The fuel pump bowls are for single malt scotch!

Mike
'66 Hybrid Coiler 109" SW
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/

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Message: 17
Subject: Re: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 01 16:24:54 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]

>But what will you drink your wine out of if you sell them, Series fuel
>pump bowls? ;)

No.  The local growers wind festivals require you to purchase a glass to 
participate (The glass is good for about 40 wineries over four days).  
And when I go out wine tasting I tend to purchase a glass at each winery 
I purchase wine from.  My wine glass rack floweth over and I need more 
space.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

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Message: 18
From: "Bill Fishel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:45:19 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

TeriAnn
I would like to buy the wine glasses if nobody
else has offered to buy them.
Bill Fishel

----------
> From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
> To: LRO list <[email-masked]>; mendo rec list <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [lro] 4 ANARC wine glasses for sale
> Date: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:17 PM
> 
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
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> 	- Cheers, Bill
> I need more space so something has to go
> 
> A set of 4 wine glasses
> 
> From the ANARC* Land Rover 50 anniv. meet in Greek Peak New York, 1998
> 
> These are the glasses that Pirelli had made specifically for this Land 
> Rover fiftieth anniversary meet and distributed at the party.
> 
> Etched on one side is the ANARC logo on the other side is the Pirelli 
> logo.
> 
> *ANARC, Association of North American Rover Clubs
> 
> I would like $20 plus shipping costs for all four wine glasses
> 
> 
> 
> TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
> Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
> [email-masked]           I will be sure to read the message
> 
> http://www.shadow-catcher.net      <- Photography for sale
> http://www.overlander.net          <- Web directory for Land Rover 
> http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   <- My personal web site
> 
> "In the world of type A & type B drivers consider me a type C gypsy  
> traveler.  Destinations are optional and not necessarily desirable."
> 
> 
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Message: 19
From: "Bill Fishel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:07:07 -0400
Subject: [lro] Shattered my rear diff  spider gears
Reply-To: [email-masked]

[Q] Can I use the spider set from the first diff in the second diff?

Suffered my second diff failure in Wellsville, Oh. Lots of nasty hill climbing that I lacked common sense in trying.

Anyhow, I stripped the teeth off one of the gears that the pin goes
through and shattered its mate into 5 chunks. The gears the axles
slide into have some chunks missing from them also. The axle shafts
weren't broke but did have severe twists in the short side.

The first diff I toasted from lack of lubricant. Wiped out the bearings,
ring and pinion. The spider gears still look good in diff #1.

I have another diff as a spare I'm going to use and I can pick up a used
diff for about $150 US. I have never done a diff rebuild and am open
to suggestions or tips on doing one.

Bill Fishel

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 17:14:32 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [lro] Riddle me this
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I need a new clutch in my Series IIa SWB, BUT it is the one with he Chey 327 engine in it.  he 327 died and was replaced
with the bigger but cheaper 350.  Here is the riddle. The tranny is pure Land Rover original Series IIa.  The engine is
not.  The part that connects the two is a custom plate of some sort.  What I need is the friction plate.  I am not sure
what you call it over here in the USA, but it is the part with the friction material on it that is trapped under the
cover against the flywheel.  It is 10 3/8 in diameter and has a 10 spline hole in the middle that fits over the Land
Rover shaft.  Is this original Land Rover?  What is "normal" or is it a Chevy part and how do I find out?  All advice is
greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Mark Pilkington

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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:45:28 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [lro] Riddle me this
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Sounds Chevy to me. Take it to your local auto parts store and I bet
you can match it up. 

Mark Pilkington wrote:
> I need a new clutch in my Series IIa SWB, BUT it is the one with he Chey 327 engine in it.  he 327 died and was replaced
> with the bigger but cheaper 350.  Here is the riddle. The tranny is pure Land Rover original Series IIa.  The engine is
> not.  The part that connects the two is a custom plate of some sort.  What I need is the friction plate.  I am not sure
> what you call it over here in the USA, but it is the part with the friction material on it that is trapped under the
> cover against the flywheel.  It is 10 3/8 in diameter and has a 10 spline hole in the middle that fits over the Land
> Rover shaft.  Is this original Land Rover?  What is "normal" or is it a Chevy part and how do I find out?  All advice is
> greatly appreciated.
> Kind regards,
> Mark Pilkington
> 
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-- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:59:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [lro] Riddle me this
Reply-To: [email-masked]

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Mark Pilkington wrote:

:Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
:	for list operations go to http://koan.team.net/mailman/index
:	- Cheers, Bill
:I need a new clutch in my Series IIa SWB, BUT it is the one with he
:Chey 327 engine in it. he 327 died and was replaced with the bigger
:but cheaper 350.  Here is the riddle. The tranny is pure Land Rover
:original Series IIa.  The engine is not.  The part that connects the
:two is a custom plate of some sort.  What I need is the friction
:plate.  I am not sure what you call it over here in the USA, but it is

A friction plate.

:the part with the friction material on it that is trapped under the
:cover against the flywheel.  It is 10 3/8 in diameter and has a 10
:spline hole in the middle that fits over the Land Rover shaft.  Is this
:original Land Rover?  What is "normal" or is it a Chevy part and how
:do I find out?  All advice is greatly appreciated.  Kind regards, Mark

10 3/8" 10 spline is a standard chevy bit (Likely cross match - late 70's
Camaro with a 305, and four speed).  I don't know if the shaft is the same
as a Land-Rover tranny or not.  Make friends with you local auto parts
place, and take them your old one.

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Message: 23
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 22:28:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [lro] Riddle me this
From: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]

If you can't match a new one, get the old relined.  You could even try
Kevlar with this route.

Chris hall

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Message: 24
From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:28:40 -0600
Subject: [lro] RE: Tranny Problem II
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Karl Kinkade wrote:
>It must be hotter there than here if your resorting to Old Style and there 
>is probably a reason it is hard to find. : )
>
They don't call it "Old Pile" for nothing:)

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88

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Message: 25
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 22:44:09 -1000
Subject: [lro] gps
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Drove all over the island today playing with the gps.  Pretty damn cool.
Need to read up on the tracking function...according to the saved route I
drove for a couple miles about 250 feet offshore.  Think this was between
two stops, when I didn't bother turning the thing on...so I guess it makes
sense.

woohoo
:-)
Pete

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Message: 26
From: "Perrone Ford" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [lro] gps
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 02:04:27 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Welcome to the modern world.  You're halfway there.  Now, when you install
an external antenna to boost signal, and tie the signal to a laptop with
mapping software, you wonder why you waited so long.

-P

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf
> Of Hope Peter
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:44 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [lro] gps
>
>
> Note: The Mailman has replaced Majordomo
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> Drove all over the island today playing with the gps.  Pretty damn cool.
> Need to read up on the tracking function...according to the saved route I
> drove for a couple miles about 250 feet offshore.  Think this was between
> two stops, when I didn't bother turning the thing on...so I guess it makes
> sense.
>
> woohoo
> :-)
> Pete

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