Re: LRO: Farm gate clearance

From: John Cranfield (john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat Jun 30 2001 - 11:56:00 EDT

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    Quite right Marin!
    the "standard" farm gate in Britain in the 40s was 10 feet. Naturally
    there were many that were not standard size.
    John and Muddy

    "Faure, Marin" wrote:
    >
    > Someone suggested the Land Rover was sized deliberately to
    > fit through the farm gates in the UK. I suspect this was not actually
    > a consideration. The Land Rover was sized to be the same as the
    > Jeep it was based on, as well as the average width of other vehicles
    > of that day. Vehicles on the whole were smaller and narrower
    > in the 1940s than they are today. It had nothing to do with gate
    > clearances, it was just the way vehicles evolved.
    >
    > I don't think farm gates placed any specific restrictions
    > on the design of the Land Rover if for no other reason than vehicles of
    > all sorts had been driven successfully through farm gates for decades
    > prior to the appearance of the Land Rover. Just watch an episode or
    > two of "All Creatures Great and Small" and you will observe period vehicles
    > of every ilk, from saloon cars to knacker's lorries, negotiating
    > centuries-old farm gates with no problems. I've driven Defenders and
    > Discoveries through farm gates in the Yorkshire Dales, the Lake District,
    > and the Highlands on many occasions. While the gates themselves were
    > generally less than 20 years old, the gaps in the stone walls had been unchanged for
    > ages. In virtually every case, there was plenty of clearance, even for our
    > Defender 130 Crew Cab.
    >
    > There is a lot of farm equipment that's much wider than
    > a Land Rover, and there has been since before the Land Rover was conceived.
    > So I think trying to insert "farm gate clearance" into the already-distorted history
    > of Land Rover (in the US thanks in large part to Land Rover North America),
    > is not a good idea. I have never seen any reference to gate width as a design
    > criteria in any of the Land Rover history books and writeups I have, most of
    > which are fairly old and so were written much closer to reality than a recent work
    > which may elevate rumor to fact. I have seen quotes from the Land Rover's developers
    > in which they outlined what they wanted to do with the design. Nobody said anything
    > about making it through farm gates. They didn't have to, as all the comparable sized
    > vehicles, including the Jeep they were copying, already made it through farm gates
    > just fine. There are already enough bogus beliefs and theories floating around about
    > the Land Rover. Let's not add another one.
    > ___________________________
    > C. Marin Faure
    > (original owner)
    > 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
    > 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
    > Seattle



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