Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #418

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:52:27 -0400

LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Friday, June 22 2001 Volume 01 : Number 418

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Air Compressor

- --- Jeff Berg <[email-masked]> wrote:
> I will, however, preach the gospel when it comes to the PREVOST
> 
> disconnects that Steve D'G sells.

anyone know where to find these?

daveb

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:05:56 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

Low range of course.

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> Are you in low range or high range when you have problems with the yellow
> knob poping up?
>
> >What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it down
> >the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
> >Everything else works.  Thanks for the help.
> >
>
> TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
> Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
> [email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
>                               and more
>
> http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:08:55 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

The yellow knob will not stay down under any circumstances. If held, it will
work. What is it that physically/mechanically hold it down until you move the
red back/forwards?
Thanks

Peter Ogilvie wrote:

> In 2wd, large/red knob lever forward, pushing down on yellow knob engages
> 4wd high and knob will remain down.  In 4wd low, large/red knob lever back,
> the yellow knob is released and pops up.  Yellow knob will stay down until
> you move large/red lever back in 4wd low.
>
> Aloha
> Peter O
>
> >From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
> >Reply-To: [email-masked]
> >To: [email-masked]
> >Subject: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down
> >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:24:58 -0700
> >
> >What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it
> >down
> >the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
> >Everything else works.  Thanks for the help.
> >Kind regards,
> >Mark Pilkington
> >
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:50:26 -0700
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Could not resist

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:15:32 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: Could not resist

>After countless times looking a your sig., I've got to ask :-
(original owner)
 1973 Land Rover Series III-88
 1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
 Seattle 
>Do you really own Seattle? <VBG> 

Not anymore.  A few years ago I decided to sell Seattle 
and offered it to Boeing.  They were mildly interested, but 
although negotiations continued for a couple of years, they 
ended up purchasing Chicago instead.  I then notified Bill 
Gates that I had Seattle up for sale, but he's pretty much committed 
to buying the Eastside.  I'm happy to report, however, that I recently 
closed a deal with Paul Allen.  He will take delivery of Seattle 
in August.  I will retain ownership of the Series III and Range 
Rover.
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:57:32 GMT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: RE : Could not resist

Thanks for the chuckle! Brightened my day up no end. Cheers!

Neil

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:00:02 -0700
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Yellow Knob will not stay down

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:24:58 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

>What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it down
the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
Everything else works.

As you may have already discovered, the yellow knob is only for engaging 
4wd in high range, when the red knob lever is forward.  Pulling the red 
knob lever back into low does two things: it engages 4wd Low, and it 
automatically disengages the spring-loaded yellow knob lever, which 
pops back up.  This is, in fact, how you get out of 4wd High: you stop, 
pull the red knob lever back into 4wd Low, the yellow knob lever disengages 
and pops up, and you shift the red knob lever back forward into  2wd High.  
I'm not sure why Land Rover went with a system a bit more confusing than 
the Jeep's simple twin-lever, High-Low, 2wd-4wd system, but they did.  One 
nice thing about Land Rover's system is that you can engage 4wd in High range 
anytime at any speed simply by shoving down on the yellow knob (assuming 
you don't have freewheel hubs, or if you do, that they are locked in).  I haven't 
driven an older model Jeep for decades, so I don't totally recall how its system 
works, but I believe you could shift into 4wd at any time at any speed by shifting 
the 2wd-4wd lever.  So I'm not sure there was a functional advantage of one over 
the other.

If I misunderstood your question, and the yellow knob is not staying down when 
pushed down to engage 4wd High Range, then there is a problem with the linkage.
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:03:03 -0700
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Yellow Knob will not stay down

From: Peter Ogilvie [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:09 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

>In 2wd, large/red knob lever forward, pushing down on yellow knob engages 
4wd high and knob will remain down.  In 4wd low, large/red knob lever back, 
the yellow knob is released and pops up.  Yellow knob will stay down until 
you move large/red lever back in 4wd low.

On my SIII, there is a plate riveted to the firewall in front of the transmission 
tunnel that explains the positions and functions of the 4wd controls, as well 
as gives towing (the vehicle) instructions.  Is this a rarity, or have most Land 
Rovers just lost these plates over the years?
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:08:27 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

Then the yellow knob should be in the up position.

>>> [email-masked] 06/21/01 11:05AM >>>
Low range of course.

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> Are you in low range or high range when you have problems with the yellow
> knob poping up?
>
> >What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it down
> >the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
> >Everything else works.  Thanks for the help.
> >
>
> TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
> Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
> [email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
>                               and more
>
> http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html 

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:13:07 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Yellow Knob will not stay down

I have mine.

>>> [email-masked] 06/21/01 12:03PM >>>
From: Peter Ogilvie [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:09 PM
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

>In 2wd, large/red knob lever forward, pushing down on yellow knob engages 
4wd high and knob will remain down.  In 4wd low, large/red knob lever back, 
the yellow knob is released and pops up.  Yellow knob will stay down until 
you move large/red lever back in 4wd low.

On my SIII, there is a plate riveted to the firewall in front of the transmission 
tunnel that explains the positions and functions of the 4wd controls, as well 
as gives towing (the vehicle) instructions.  Is this a rarity, or have most Land 
Rovers just lost these plates over the years?
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:17:05 -0700
From: "Faure, Marin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:12:10 +0100
From: Ian Stuart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Freewheel hubs

>You really are a sarcastic bugger aren't you? <grin>
How much Humberside blood is in your system?

Not enough to know the significance of "Humberside." I've 
heard the expression before (I assume it's a location 
that has become synonymous with an attitude, lifestyle, 
etc.) but I'm afraid I can't appreciate its significance.  Perhaps 
a UK-type can explain.

On our first canalboat trip in the UK, we kept motoring past vacant 
lots and parking areas with signs that said "No Tipping."  It puzzled 
the hell out of me what sort of services might be provided in these 
barren places that would induce anyone to pay someone a tip.  It was 
a good week before I learned that the term "tipping" is used in the UK 
the way we use the word "dumping."  I assume the word was derived 
from carts, lorries, etc. that tipped up to dump rubbish on the ground.  
Or maybe from the notion of tipping something over.  Anyway, I find these 
language differences really intriguing.  My favorite, and one which I certainly 
can't speak, is the use of rhyming phrases to describe something entirely 
different.  Is it Cockney?  For example, the expression "loaf of bread" may 
mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread"  A few of these 
expressions have worked their way into the language here in the US.  In fact, 
I seem to recall that the use of the term "bread" for money originated in this 
rhyming slang from the UK.  I wonder if there is a rhyming phrase for 
Land Rover.....?
___________________________
C. Marin Faure
  (original owner)
  1973 Land Rover Series III-88
  1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
  Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:23:12 +0100
From: Ian Stuart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

On Thursday 21 June 2001 16:08, you wrote:
> The yellow knob will not stay down under any circumstances. If held,
> it will work. What is it that physically/mechanically hold it down
> until you move the red back/forwards?
> Thanks
Having taken one of these apart recently, I know this one...
Note: the specifics of which rod does what may be wrong, but the 
concept is correct.

This is much easier to follow with a gearbox to look at ;)

As always, your primary reference should be a workshop-style manual..

In the "nose" of the transfer box (the bit that is parallel to, and 
right of, the main gearbox, there are two rods.

The two rods are linked together with a piece of "H" shaped metal, so 
one can move the other back by using the "H" as a fulcrum:

<this needs a fix-width font>
========*====0  <-- red lever?
        %
========+====
<end of fix-width font>

One (the inside one?) has the red-topped lever attached to it, and the 
other terminates inside the dust cover. 

The inside rod controls a cog that engages low box in the main transfer 
housing

The outside one (by the above logic) has a large spring along it's 
length, which tends to push the rod to the front. This rod engages 4WD

In the rest position: 4x2xhigh, the red lever is forward, and the 
yellow lever is up. The yellow lever is attached to a pin that goes 
into the very end of the "nose". This pin is holding an "h" shaped 
piece of metal in place.
 
<this needs a fix-width font>
 ========*====0  <-- red lever?
         %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
         %
 ========+====
<end of fix-width font>

By moving the red lever back, you force the other rod forwards, thus 
engaging low box (by moving cogs with the red-lever-rod) and 4wd, by 
allowing the other rod to be pushed forwards by the spring

Thus:
<this needs a fix-width font>
=======*====0  <-- red lever?
        %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
         %
  ========+====
<end of fix-width font>

By moving the red lever forwards, you pull the 4wd rod backwards 
(compressing the spring), disengaging 4wd.

>From the rest position again, by pushing the yellow lever down, this 
lifts the pin that is holding the "H" pivot in place, and the 4wd rod 
is again pushed forwards by the spring, however the Hi/Lo rod has not 
moved, so the vehicle is still in high box.

Thus:
<this needs a fix-width font>
 ========*====0  <-- red lever?
         %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
          %
   ========+====
<end of fix-width font>

The problem now is that the "H" piece is in the wrong position for the 
pin to be re-inserted, so the Hi/Lo lever has to be pulled backwards to 
angle the "H" piece

So, by moving the red lever to the rear, the spring that you see above 
the tunnel can push the yellow lever up - which therefor pushes the pin 
into the newly re-aligned hole (you are now in 4x4xlow.

Therefor you can once again move the red lever forwards, and the "H" 
piece will picot about the pin, and dis-engage 4x4.

- -- 
           --==**==--
Ian Stuart - EDINA, DataLibrary, University computing services.
- ---------------------------------
A man depriving some village, somewhere, of a first-class idiot
- ---------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:36:28 +0100
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

In article 
<[email-masked]>, 
Marin Faure wrote:
> Is it Cockney?  For example, the expression "loaf of bread" may 
> mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread"
>
Yus.  Use your loaf , Marin.

 (Loaf of bread = head).

A Kuwaiti friend of mine was foxed by the term "Jam Dog". Had to 
explain that the guy meant (Jam-jar = car) (Dog and Bone=phone) car 
phone.

 Paul

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:50:05 -0600
From: Ivan Van Laningham <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

Hi All--

Paul wrote:
>
> A Kuwaiti friend of mine was foxed by the term "Jam Dog". Had to
> explain that the guy meant (Jam-jar = car) (Dog and Bone=phone) car
> phone.
>

OK, here's a tough one for you.  When did this expression (Jam Dog) gain
currency?

Ivan  
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:51:47 -0500
From: "Garrick Olsen" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Clutch--- WORKS!

Thanks for the collective advice and in particular Alan Richter's personal 
words of encouragement and guidance.

I put in the new clutch plate and then couldn't get the clutch to disengage 
from the motor without 3 pumps of the clutch.  I adjusted the slave to the 
Nth degree.

It turns out you can adjust the master cylinder.  You have to take off the 
wing, though!

Once I got it all back together and was feeling  quite smug with all 
adjusted out, I started, put in gear and stood still.  No motion.  I 
stressed about this for about 2 hours wondering how fast I could get the 
wing and floors off again, etc, until I remembered I left the transfer case 
in Neutral.

VROOOM!!

Oh, now the hand brake doesn't work.

- -Rik
in Minnesota
1960 SWB SW

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:02:50 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

Ian,
    That is exactly what I wanted to know. Well answered, You have helped
me a lot.  Thank you.

Ian Stuart wrote:

> On Thursday 21 June 2001 16:08, you wrote:
> > The yellow knob will not stay down under any circumstances. If held,
> > it will work. What is it that physically/mechanically hold it down
> > until you move the red back/forwards?
> > Thanks
> Having taken one of these apart recently, I know this one...
> Note: the specifics of which rod does what may be wrong, but the
> concept is correct.
>
> This is much easier to follow with a gearbox to look at ;)
>
> As always, your primary reference should be a workshop-style manual..
>
> In the "nose" of the transfer box (the bit that is parallel to, and
> right of, the main gearbox, there are two rods.
>
> The two rods are linked together with a piece of "H" shaped metal, so
> one can move the other back by using the "H" as a fulcrum:
>
> <this needs a fix-width font>
> ========*====0  <-- red lever?
>         %
> ========+====
> <end of fix-width font>
>
> One (the inside one?) has the red-topped lever attached to it, and the
> other terminates inside the dust cover.
>
> The inside rod controls a cog that engages low box in the main transfer
> housing
>
> The outside one (by the above logic) has a large spring along it's
> length, which tends to push the rod to the front. This rod engages 4WD
>
> In the rest position: 4x2xhigh, the red lever is forward, and the
> yellow lever is up. The yellow lever is attached to a pin that goes
> into the very end of the "nose". This pin is holding an "h" shaped
> piece of metal in place.
>
> <this needs a fix-width font>
>  ========*====0  <-- red lever?
>          %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
>          %
>  ========+====
> <end of fix-width font>
>
> By moving the red lever back, you force the other rod forwards, thus
> engaging low box (by moving cogs with the red-lever-rod) and 4wd, by
> allowing the other rod to be pushed forwards by the spring
>
> Thus:
> <this needs a fix-width font>
> =======*====0  <-- red lever?
>         %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
>          %
>   ========+====
> <end of fix-width font>
>
> By moving the red lever forwards, you pull the 4wd rod backwards
> (compressing the spring), disengaging 4wd.
>
> >From the rest position again, by pushing the yellow lever down, this
> lifts the pin that is holding the "H" pivot in place, and the 4wd rod
> is again pushed forwards by the spring, however the Hi/Lo rod has not
> moved, so the vehicle is still in high box.
>
> Thus:
> <this needs a fix-width font>
>  ========*====0  <-- red lever?
>          %  <-- pivoting "H" piece
>           %
>    ========+====
> <end of fix-width font>
>
> The problem now is that the "H" piece is in the wrong position for the
> pin to be re-inserted, so the Hi/Lo lever has to be pulled backwards to
> angle the "H" piece
>
> So, by moving the red lever to the rear, the spring that you see above
> the tunnel can push the yellow lever up - which therefor pushes the pin
> into the newly re-aligned hole (you are now in 4x4xlow.
>
> Therefor you can once again move the red lever forwards, and the "H"
> piece will picot about the pin, and dis-engage 4x4.
>
> --
>            --==**==--
> Ian Stuart - EDINA, DataLibrary, University computing services.
> ---------------------------------
> A man depriving some village, somewhere, of a first-class idiot
> ---------------------------------
> http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:04:04 -0700
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

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At 9:17 AM -0700 6/21/01, Faure, Marin wrote:
>can't speak, is the use of rhyming phrases to describe something entirely
>different.  Is it Cockney?  For example, the expression "loaf of bread" may
>mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread"  A few of these
>expressions have worked their way into the language here in the US.  In fact,

Aw you're just an ignorant "septic tank" that's all.  :-)

G. Mugele
*** "It's not on any map - true places never are."  -- Mark Twain

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At 9:17 AM -0700 6/21/01, Faure, Marin wrote:

<excerpt>can't speak, is the use of rhyming phrases to describe
something entirely 

different.  Is it Cockney?  For example, the expression "loaf of bread"
may 

mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread"  A few of
these 

expressions have worked their way into the language here in the US.  In
fact, 

</excerpt>

Aw you're just an ignorant "septic tank" that's all.  :-)

G. Mugele

*** <fontfamily><param>Palatino</param><smaller>"It's not on any map -
true places never are."  -- Mark Twain 
</smaller></fontfamily>

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:06:03 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Yellow Knob will not stay down

I have them too but they are attached to 6 Land Rovers on a boat in the middle of the
Atlantic where I cannot read them. Anyone seen Titanic?
Mark Pilkington

RON WARD wrote:

> I have mine.
>
> >>> [email-masked] 06/21/01 12:03PM >>>
> From: Peter Ogilvie [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:09 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down
>
> >In 2wd, large/red knob lever forward, pushing down on yellow knob engages
> 4wd high and knob will remain down.  In 4wd low, large/red knob lever back,
> the yellow knob is released and pops up.  Yellow knob will stay down until
> you move large/red lever back in 4wd low.
>
> On my SIII, there is a plate riveted to the firewall in front of the transmission
> tunnel that explains the positions and functions of the 4wd controls, as well
> as gives towing (the vehicle) instructions.  Is this a rarity, or have most Land
> Rovers just lost these plates over the years?
> ___________________________
> C. Marin Faure
>   (original owner)
>   1973 Land Rover Series III-88
>   1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
>   Seattle

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:31:02 -0400
From: Michael Hatton <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

Try www.londonslang.com for an excellent and very funny dictionary of
rhyming slang.

Michael Hatton

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Faure, Marin wrote:

> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:12:10 +0100
> From: Ian Stuart <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Freewheel hubs
>
> >You really are a sarcastic bugger aren't you? <grin>
> How much Humberside blood is in your system?
>
> Not enough to know the significance of "Humberside." I've
> heard the expression before (I assume it's a location
> that has become synonymous with an attitude, lifestyle,
> etc.) but I'm afraid I can't appreciate its significance.  Perhaps
> a UK-type can explain.
>
> On our first canalboat trip in the UK, we kept motoring past vacant
> lots and parking areas with signs that said "No Tipping."  It puzzled
> the hell out of me what sort of services might be provided in these
> barren places that would induce anyone to pay someone a tip.  It was
> a good week before I learned that the term "tipping" is used in the UK
> the way we use the word "dumping."  I assume the word was derived
> from carts, lorries, etc. that tipped up to dump rubbish on the ground.
> Or maybe from the notion of tipping something over.  Anyway, I find these
> language differences really intriguing.  My favorite, and one which I certainly
> can't speak, is the use of rhyming phrases to describe something entirely
> different.  Is it Cockney?  For example, the expression "loaf of bread" may
> mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread"  A few of these
> expressions have worked their way into the language here in the US.  In fact,
> I seem to recall that the use of the term "bread" for money originated in this
> rhyming slang from the UK.  I wonder if there is a rhyming phrase for
> Land Rover.....?
> ___________________________
> C. Marin Faure
>   (original owner)
>   1973 Land Rover Series III-88
>   1991 Range Rover Vogue SE
>   Seattle
>

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 01 10:38:00 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

>Then the yellow knob should be in the up position.

Agreed. Low range is always four wheel drive and the yellow knob pops up 
when you pull the red knob back into low range.  The yellow knob down 
position is only used to engage high range 4WD.  

I strongly suggest the purchase of the owners manual.  It covers such 
things as this, and regular maintenence things.  Some you would never 
know without reading the manual like the suspension "U" bolts should be 
retorqued every 12,000 miles.  A worthwhile investment.
>
>>>> [email-masked] 06/21/01 11:05AM >>>
>Low range of course.
>
>TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
>
>> Are you in low range or high range when you have problems with the yellow
>> knob poping up?
>>
>> >What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it 
down
>> >the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
>> >Everything else works.  Thanks for the help.

TeriAnn         
                      http://www.overlander.net

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  with Rover parts, service, accessory & sales companies world wide.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:22:20 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Yellow Knob will not stay down

Thank you everyone for the helpful advice on this problem.
Mark

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> >Then the yellow knob should be in the up position.
>
> Agreed. Low range is always four wheel drive and the yellow knob pops up
> when you pull the red knob back into low range.  The yellow knob down
> position is only used to engage high range 4WD.
>
> I strongly suggest the purchase of the owners manual.  It covers such
> things as this, and regular maintenence things.  Some you would never
> know without reading the manual like the suspension "U" bolts should be
> retorqued every 12,000 miles.  A worthwhile investment.
> >
> >>>> [email-masked] 06/21/01 11:05AM >>>
> >Low range of course.
> >
> >TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> >
> >> Are you in low range or high range when you have problems with the yellow
> >> knob poping up?
> >>
> >> >What does it mean if the yellow knob will not stay down. If you hold it
> down
> >> >the Low will work, but it just pops back up when you let go of it.
> >> >Everything else works.  Thanks for the help.
>
>
> TeriAnn
>                       http://www.overlander.net
>
>   The world's most complete set of links connecting Rover 4X4 owners
>   with Rover parts, service, accessory & sales companies world wide.

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:23:47 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

Gor Lummie mate me trouble's on the dog and the saucepans are up the apples.
Anyone translate???

"G. Mugele" wrote:

> At 9:17 AM -0700 6/21/01, Faure, Marin wrote:
>
>      can't speak, is the use of rhyming phrases to describe something entirely
>      different. Is it Cockney? For example, the expression "loaf of bread" may
>      mean something entirely different that rhymes with "bread" A few of these
>      expressions have worked their way into the language here in the US. In fact,
>
> Aw you're just an ignorant "septic tank" that's all. :-)
>
> G. Mugele
> *** "It's not on any map - true places never are." -- Mark Twain

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:09:30 +0100
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

In article <[email-masked]>, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> OK, here's a tough one for you.  When did this expression (Jam Dog) gain
> currency?
>
Late 1980s?  Certainly don`t hear it anymore. The only place that you see 
"Carphone" is in the name "Carphone Warehouse".

Paul

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:09:31 +0100
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

In article <[email-masked]>, Mark Pilkington wrote:
> Gor Lummie mate me trouble's on the dog and the saucepans are up the apples.
>
God love me mate, my wife is on the telephone and the children are upstairs.

 Trouble & strife = wife
 Dog & Bone = telephone
 Saucepan lids= kids
 apples & pears = stairs

 The one you got wrong was mate. You meant to say "me old china"
 
 China Plate = mate.

 Paul

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:11:23 -0700
From: "G. Mugele" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

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>Gor Lummie mate me trouble's on the dog and the saucepans are up the apples.
>Anyone translate???
>

Whoa, lordy pal, my wife's yappin' on the phone and the kids are up stairs?

G. Mugele
*** "It's not on any map - true places never are."  -- Mark Twain

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Whoa, lordy pal, my wife's yappin' on the phone and the kids are up
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G. Mugele

*** <fontfamily><param>Palatino</param><smaller>"It's not on any map -
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:27:57 -0700
From: Mark Pilkington <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Slang (was Freewheel hubs)

100% A+ grade for translation.

Paul wrote:

> In article <[email-masked]>, Mark Pilkington wrote:
> > Gor Lummie mate me trouble's on the dog and the saucepans are up the apples.
> >
> God love me mate, my wife is on the telephone and the children are upstairs.
>
>  Trouble & strife = wife
>  Dog & Bone = telephone
>  Saucepan lids= kids
>  apples & pears = stairs
>
>
>  The one you got wrong was mate. You meant to say "me old china"
>
>  China Plate = mate.
>
>
>
>  Paul

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:50 -0400
From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Awlgrip

Bill Adams <[email-masked]> wrote:

>Go to the US Paint website www.uspaint.com and look at the options for
>steel hulled boats under the Awlgrip line. They make an epoxy based
>chromate primer that goes under their epoxy topcoats. If you want a
>tough finish, it's the only way to go.

Awlgrip is a damn fine paint.  Holds up well to U/V, but it is a little
tricky to apply - and as Bill said, the thinners/reducers are nasty
chemicals.  Use two brushes, the second kept in a container of reducer to
'tip' in the brush strokes.  Keep a wet edge by swapping brushes frequently.

Cheers

	*-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----*
	|                 A. P. "Sandy" Grice                  |
	|    The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd    |
	|     1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
	|     757-622-7054  (H)423-4898  (FAX)757-622-7056     |
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:29:41 -0400
From: "Peter Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: silver lake

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:24:05 -0400
From: "Bill Fishel" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: silver lake

I'm driving my SIII up from Ohio. I'll pass through Toronto on the 401
sometime around 1 or 2 pm.  Toronto is about 7 hr drive from my place.
Bill Fishel

- ----------
From: Peter Thomson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: silver lake
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:29 PM

Anyone leaving from Toronto for Silver Lake tomorow.  Peter

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:41:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: silver lake

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Peter Thomson wrote:

> Anyone leaving from Toronto for Silver Lake tomorow.  Peter

Some of the Pittsburg bunch will be passing through TO, though I am not
sure at what time.

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:39:35 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO:  Land Rover video

http://www.aloharovers.com/eravi1.mpg

I have been fooling arounf with premier building some web video from some of
our trips here in Hawaii.
This particular video is only 30 seconds long, but is still 4 megs.  I have
tried quicktime, avi and mpeg formats, but can't seem to get the file size
down.
I do not currently have access to a streaming media web server so don't
think converting to a ram file is an option.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I have over 30 minutes total here, just about 1 gig worth of the stuff.
Until I get to the mainland and stand up a web server from the house, no way
I can post all of it.
Pete
ps, turn your volume down before playing the clip:-)

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:41:58 -0400
From: "Peter Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Re: silver lake

G'Day Bill,
               Do you have a cell phone? if you do you could give me youe #
and I give you a call. or you could call me. 416 931 8742. Peter.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Fishel <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:24 AM
Subject: LRO: Re: silver lake

> I'm driving my SIII up from Ohio. I'll pass through Toronto on the 401
> sometime around 1 or 2 pm.  Toronto is about 7 hr drive from my place.
> Bill Fishel
>
> ----------
> From: Peter Thomson <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: LRO: silver lake
> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:29 PM
>
> Anyone leaving from Toronto for Silver Lake tomorow.  Peter

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:47 +0100
From: Ian Stuart <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Land Rover video

On Friday 22 June 2001 16:39, you wrote:
> http://www.aloharovers.com/eravi1.mpg
>
> I have been fooling arounf with premier building some web video from
> some of our trips here in Hawaii.
In a similar vein, there is some stuff from the Malasia Rainforest 
Challange 2000 - with a copy here:

http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/rainforest.challenge.2000/

- -- 
           --==**==--
Ian Stuart - EDINA, DataLibrary, University computing services.
- ---------------------------------
A man depriving some village, somewhere, of a first-class idiot
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http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:54:17 -0400
From: "Bill Fishel" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Re: silver lake

Peter
My cell# is 330 719 6456. I'm leaving shortly a little later than I wanted
but I should hit Toronto by at least 3 PM. today. Yes I can say rush hour
and have crawled through it before.

I'll try calling as soon as I'm in the area.

Bill Fishel

- ----------
> From: Peter Thomson <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: LRO: Re: Re: silver lake
> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:41 AM
> 
> G'Day Bill,
>                Do you have a cell phone? if you do you could give me youe #
> and I give you a call. or you could call me. 416 931 8742. Peter.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Fishel <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:24 AM
> Subject: LRO: Re: silver lake
> 
> 
> > I'm driving my SIII up from Ohio. I'll pass through Toronto on the 401
> > sometime around 1 or 2 pm.  Toronto is about 7 hr drive from my place.
> > Bill Fishel
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Peter Thomson <[email-masked]>
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: LRO: silver lake
> > Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:29 PM
> >
> > Anyone leaving from Toronto for Silver Lake tomorow.  Peter

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:11:18 -0400
From: Gowyn Wilcox <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Land Rover video

Hi there, had a look at your video and here are a few suggestions.

Slow the frame rate down to about 12fps.  At 12fps it's still a fluid
presentation.  Right now yours is at 30fps.  At 12fps you will need less
than half the data you have now, i.e. <2mb.

Also, fool around with a couple of different codecs.  I use Sorenson but
Cinepac works well with pc's too.

Good luck, I think you're biggest improvement will be the frame rate.

Gowyn.

On 6/22/01 11:39 AM, "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> http://www.aloharovers.com/eravi1.mpg
> 
> I have been fooling arounf with premier building some web video from some of
> our trips here in Hawaii.
> This particular video is only 30 seconds long, but is still 4 megs.  I have
> tried quicktime, avi and mpeg formats, but can't seem to get the file size
> down.
> I do not currently have access to a streaming media web server so don't
> think converting to a ram file is an option.
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> I have over 30 minutes total here, just about 1 gig worth of the stuff.
> Until I get to the mainland and stand up a web server from the house, no way
> I can post all of it.
> Pete
> ps, turn your volume down before playing the clip:-)
> 

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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:51:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Tim Thorpe <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Help, Selectro FWH remove/replace?

Need to do the hub seals on my SIII LWB, did the first
rear one yesterday evening. The fronts have Selectro FWH,
the model which is engaged by a faceplate with a central
rotating part that weeps oil.

When ordering the seals, I asked Paddocks what I needed to
to get the FWH off on the way to replacing the hub seal. They
seemed to reckon that if I undid the flange nuts, it would
come right off without opening/dismantling.

When I did that, and tried to pry it away, it felt as though
something internal was stopping it. I opened the faceplate,
and found a nut like a longditudinal equivalent of a castellated
nut, ie more like a thing with splines and a pin which runs in
the same axis as the shaft. I suspect that it might need some
special tool? The surrounding parts are going to make it hard
to tap it out. I couldn't see further in, whether there is
indeed some part of the FWH impeding its removal.

What is the trick? And while I'm asking, is there any way
to stop it weeping? The oil patches give ammunition to a man
in my street who doesn't like my car because its a different
colour to his.

Tim.
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Tim Thorpe	                        Tel: +44 1223 240366 
[email-masked]                  Fax: +44 1223 414402
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