Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #413

From: [email-masked] (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:55:33 -0400

LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Monday, June 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 413

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:02:11 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Freewheel hubs

I have been told that if you put her in four wheel drive with out the hubs
being engaged you can damage the transfer case
Pete

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:01:28 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Land Rover Price in 1959?

Paul sez: >>>Series Land-Rovers would be seen towing horse-boxes and stock
trailers. <<<

still are round here!

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:05:54 -0400
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: FW: 93 Range Rover for Sale

Canadian Dollars, that's 10K US

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Bill Daddis [SMTP:[email-masked]]
<mailto:[SMTP:[email-masked]]> 
Sent:	Friday, June 15, 2001 9:38 PM
To:	[email-masked]
<mailto:[email-masked]> 
Subject:	93 Range Rover for Sale

For Sale: 1993 Range Rover Classic 
TARC member Markus Schale is selling a 1993 Range Rover Classic. Safari
green with beige leather interior. 124,000 km., automatic, new brakes and
shocks. Impeccable condition. 
$15,000 firm. Call him at  416-693-6930.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:58:19 -0400
From: "Alex Maiolo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: civil war

> agreed, I just did a large feature on our (UK) Civil War, it was anything
> but civil...

Or as George Carlin said:
"Civil War? What the f**k does THAT mean? 
'excuse me old chum
*BANG*
sorry about that, really'"

Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:02:09 -0400
From: "Alex Maiolo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Afterrmarket doors

David at Thatched Roof caries them and they are nice. I have a pair on my
LWB project, and while they aren't quite as stout as the originals, they are
inexpensive, and I feel that if I have to replace them in 8 years, big deal,
the bottoms will have rotted by electrolysis anyway.
They do the trick, are of decent quality, and can be had for something like
a hundred bucks.

Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Williams II" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: LRO: Afterrmarket doors

Has anyone had any experience with aftermarket doors for Series trucks?

I've seen some on the Thatched Roof Garage website but don't know anything
about the aftermarket doors - how's the quality, fit and finish?

Rich

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:06:38 -0400
From: "Alex Maiolo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Marins being offensive again!

> Well, I'm half-French, but there's not much point in my making
> you-owe-me-a-beer threats to people who insult the French,
> as I'm not aware that the French really know how to make
> beer.

Fisher D'Alsace is heaven in a bottle, but I guess that's pretty close to
Germany (it *was* Germany during certian points in history...)

>I'm sure they take a shot at it every now and then,
> but they seem to be pretty well hung up on wine.  As I don't
> care for wine (except ice-wine), being French doesn't do me
> much good in this respect.

Yeah, but it allows you to get away with that super-opinionated thing. The
French were always good at that. Your ancestry manifests itself more than
you think.

Viva Le Fro-o-o-o-o-once!
Alex Maiolo
Chapel Hill NC

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:21:40 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Land Rover Price in 1959?

Trevor, I didn't mean to do with Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithful :-)>
 It was to do with how many Mars bars it took to buy something...
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: LRO: Land Rover Price in 1959?

>
>
> > I also did some fascinating research on things like Mars Bars... must
find
> > it and bring it up to date...
> >
> > Best Cheers
> >
> > Frank
> >
> [Easton Trevor A]  Careful, children read this list.
> >
>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:28:09 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Original Costs

you write: <<<Door handles                   $  9.00
(Where?)<<<

on the roof? (wild guess)

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:16:40 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: cripes!

The following was posted to the UK list today.

'I advertised, over 12 months ago, my old 2.25 three bearing diesel
engine.
I had a phone call this morning from a dealer in car spares who was
looking for an engine for an overseas customer's Discovery. He wanted to
know whether the engine I had for sale (for £150) was a 200 or 300 ! I
tried to point out that a 200 or 300 TDi would cost him at least £1500
but he said I was being ridiculous and he could get one for "a couple of
hundred". He didn't know the difference between 2.25 NA's and TDi's so
some poor sod abroad might get a old three bearing as a replacement for
a Discovery Tdi '

I know no-one on this list would be that naive, but it does make you think
that you should be a bit careful when ordering parts from the UK.
 I've asked the lister if he got the guy's company details, we could do with
bearing him in mind...

Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 01 08:37:48 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Rear Axle Question

>In an effort to stop the flow of 90 wt oil into the right rear brake of my 
>1965 109, I have removed the reake shoes, hub assemblyand brake backing 
>plate, but the axle shaft is proving difficult to remove.  

Normally you just replace the inner hub seal and possibly the race if it 
is grooved.  Oil on LR brake shoes is almost always getting past the 
inner hub oil seal.

>Are there some good techniques to extract this shaft? 

Normally the axles just slide out.  It could be the axle is just starting 
to twist.  When you get it out check it carefully.  If the axle has been 
on for more than 40K miles or if you have been using the LR hard it may 
be time to replace the pair of axles.

If you can not wiggle it & have it come free try removing the other axle 
and use a long metal rod and a hammer to push the stuck axle out.  This 
is a technique used when the axle breaks towards the middle and a longish 
piece is stuck in the spider gears.

TeriAnn         
                      http://www.overlander.net

  The world's most complete set of links connecting Rover 4X4 owners
  with Rover parts, service, accessory & sales companies world wide.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:36:59 -0700
From: "Paul Quin" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Oil pressure question. + Show in Victoria.

I'd suspect the pressure switch.

FWIW the oil pressure on my truck is very sensitive to the oil level.  Right
on the full mark the oil pressure is rock solid at 40 psi even at idle.
Anything below half way on the dipstick and the oil pressure drops to around
20 psi at idle (800 rpm).  Mind you the difference between 'full' and 'add'
on my Land Rover is almost 3 litres !!

If I let the level drop to the add line, then the oil pump will start
sucking air during heavy braking or steep downslopes.

Paul Quin
1961 SII 88
Victoria, BC.

Ps.  Any lurkers in the Victoria area might want to check out the Father's
Day British Car Show at Beacon Hill Park on Sunday.  Should be a few Land
Rovers there.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:59:22 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Radiator

Aloha,
well work on the new cam and head has gone well.
Switched over to an electric cooling fan.  This is a hayden unit with the
black plastic connectors that feed through the core.  Have used em many
times in the past on a bunch of different vehicles, including my SerIII.
Wouldn't ya know it, I damaged one of the tubes in the core and it's leaking
now.
I am going to ttry and solder it up, but if it doesn't work I will be in the
search for a new radiator.
Everyone else on island has a much thicker radiator then I do.  I have been
searching around and the parts places I have contacted so far tell me that
all that is currently available is the later Ser III thinner cored radiator
(like I have now)
I really would like to get one of these thicker cores.  Failing that, is
there a match with another vehicle?  Something heavy duty I might find in a
modine catalog?
Any ideas?
Thanks
Pete

ps.  oh and SWMBO calls yesterday afternoon.  The GMC broke down on the side
off the road.  Overheating.  It's the waterpump.  Replace that and the hoses
and thermostat.  Hopefully she wasn't driving too far before seeing the temp
gauge.  Did a compression test and all 8 are even, but still could have
blown a head.

pss.  The firm is giving away umbrellas to promote it's new recruitment
drive.  I opened it up in the office to check out the logo on it.  Everyone
freeks out, something about bad luck.  Never heard that one before, but
looks like I am paying for it now :-)

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:07:39 -1000
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Rear Axle Question

FWIW  The last time I had to pull an axle, one was hung up.  Finally got it 
out by taking out the hub bolts with the axle still bolted to the hub and 
used an old wood chizel to pry the hub, and along with it, the axle out of 
the diff.  You may have thought of it but sometimes the obvious easy 
solution isn't gets lost.

Aloha
Peter

>From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: "LRO list" <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: LRO: Rear Axle Question
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 01 08:37:48 -0700
>
> >In an effort to stop the flow of 90 wt oil into the right rear brake of 
>my
> >1965 109, I have removed the reake shoes, hub assemblyand brake backing
> >plate, but the axle shaft is proving difficult to remove.
>
>Normally you just replace the inner hub seal and possibly the race if it
>is grooved.  Oil on LR brake shoes is almost always getting past the
>inner hub oil seal.
>
> >Are there some good techniques to extract this shaft?
>
>Normally the axles just slide out.  It could be the axle is just starting
>to twist.  When you get it out check it carefully.  If the axle has been
>on for more than 40K miles or if you have been using the LR hard it may
>be time to replace the pair of axles.
>
>If you can not wiggle it & have it come free try removing the other axle
>and use a long metal rod and a hammer to push the stuck axle out.  This
>is a technique used when the axle breaks towards the middle and a longish
>piece is stuck in the spider gears.
>
>
>
>
>TeriAnn
>                       http://www.overlander.net
>
>   The world's most complete set of links connecting Rover 4X4 owners
>   with Rover parts, service, accessory & sales companies world wide.
>

_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:33:48 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Rear Axle Question

Does this mean you are going to start driving the dormobile? I hope so.
You should take it to the rally in August. If you need help persuading
the half shafts, let me know.

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> In an effort to stop the flow of 90 wt oil into the right rear brake of my
> 1965 109, I have removed the reake shoes, hub assemblyand brake backing
> plate, but the axle shaft is proving difficult to remove.
> 
> Are there some good techniques to extract this shaft?
> 
> Paul Donohue
> 1965 Land Rover 109
> Denver

- -- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:04:22 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Guinness

It appeared in the Bolton Evening News a couple of weeks back.
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: LRO: Guinness

> In article <000901c0f5da$dea980a0$0c02020a@FrankElson>, Frank Elson wrote:
> > agreed, I just did a large feature on our (UK) Civil War, it was
anything
> > but civil...
> > Best Cheers
> >
> > Frank
> >
> Where will/did it appear Frank?
>
> Paul
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:01:34 +0100
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Guinness

In article <000301c0f694$54bae0e0$0c02020a@FrankElson>, Frank Elson 
wrote:
> It appeared in the Bolton Evening News a couple of weeks back.
>
Drat. They don`t sell that fine journal here in West London.

I don`t suppose they have a website do they?

Paul

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:28:52 -0500
From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Best solo brake bleeder yet

Take a look at this. 

I've tried most of the one man bleeders out there. Those little clip
on jobs, the Mighty Vac and the EZ Bleed. None can compare. This puppy
is very well made and does exactly what it's supposed to in exactly
the manner advertised. 

Go look at it at http://www.vq-speedi.com/

But buy it at http://www.falcotools.com/

This is the best price I've found (wish I'd found it earlier :-(

No, I'm not affiliated and I don't get any money or gratis.

Andy Litkowiak

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:33:34 -0400
From: "Perrone Ford" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RE: Best solo brake bleeder yet

I've long suggested the Motive systems pressure bleeder.  I've not used the
systems mentioned here, but everyone who I have let come to my garage has
ordered their own.  LR, BMW, Porsche, etc.  It is the best $49 I've spent
for a tool.

- -Perrone

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On
> Behalf Of Andrew H. Litkowiak
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:29 PM
> Subject: LRO: Best solo brake bleeder yet
>
>
> Take a look at this.
>
> I've tried most of the one man bleeders out there. Those little clip
> on jobs, the Mighty Vac and the EZ Bleed. None can compare. This puppy
> is very well made and does exactly what it's supposed to in exactly
> the manner advertised.
>
> Go look at it at http://www.vq-speedi.com/
>
> But buy it at http://www.falcotools.com/
>
> This is the best price I've found (wish I'd found it earlier :-(
>
> No, I'm not affiliated and I don't get any money or gratis.
>
> Andy Litkowiak
>
>

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:58:03 -0500
From: "Andrew H. Litkowiak" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Best solo brake bleeder yet

I missed that one :-) Does it come with a variety (or choice) of caps?

Andy Litkowiak

Perrone Ford wrote:
> 
> I've long suggested the Motive systems pressure bleeder.  I've not used the
> systems mentioned here, but everyone who I have let come to my garage has
> ordered their own.  LR, BMW, Porsche, etc.  It is the best $49 I've spent
> for a tool.
> 
> -Perrone
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On
> > Behalf Of Andrew H. Litkowiak
> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:29 PM
> > Subject: LRO: Best solo brake bleeder yet
> >
> >
> > Take a look at this.
> >
> > I've tried most of the one man bleeders out there. Those little clip
> > on jobs, the Mighty Vac and the EZ Bleed. None can compare. This puppy
> > is very well made and does exactly what it's supposed to in exactly
> > the manner advertised.
> >
> > Go look at it at http://www.vq-speedi.com/
> >
> > But buy it at http://www.falcotools.com/
> >
> > This is the best price I've found (wish I'd found it earlier :-(
> >
> > No, I'm not affiliated and I don't get any money or gratis.
> >
> > Andy Litkowiak
> >
> >

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:05:42 -0400
From: "M. Tompkins" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Best solo brake bleeder yet

See http://www.motiveproducts.com/home.htm

Cheers,
Mike
'66 Hybrid Coiler 109" SW
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Trails/6623/

"Andrew H. Litkowiak" wrote:

> I missed that one :-) Does it come with a variety (or choice) of caps?
>
>

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:28:15 -0400
From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Missing Front Drive Shaft

for used parts and the front
drive shaft unit is actually not bad at $100 but the transaxle is going
to be around $1.4k . .ouch. .

  John, you know there's no transaxle in a RR right?  Don't go putting used
Honda parts in there ;)  Your already in for it with that RR.  I'd unload
that thing and look elsewhere.  I think I remember you said your were really
looking for a Series truck?  That sounds better.  Less electrickery too.

Scott C. Wickham Jr.
Pgh. Pa.
'72 88" (secretly disguised as a IIa)
'84 Range Rover
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Zebra Club Member #2
Birmabright Brotherhood member
http://drive.to/zebraclub

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:35:11 -0400
From: "Bruce D. Fowler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Molson LR commercial

I've made a note, not to cross any borders with you two....

Bruce F.
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Scheidt 

:On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
:
::
::I think they were going to the OLVR Birthday Party.
::
::No, if that had been the case they'd have been pulled over and
::strip-searched at the Canada border....8*)
::
:
:Hey, I thought that only happened to me!
:
:-- 
:[email-masked]
:Bipedalism is only a fad.
:
:

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:44:59 -0400
From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Molson LR commercial

I saw it too!  Twice the other night.  It is a great commertial.  I didn't
see the front, was it a IIa?  I'll have to get some Molsen for the BP to
support them.
  And then later I saw Tomb Raider with Courtney.  More cool Rovers.  I was
hoping to see more of the LR but, it isn't in there much.  A few quick
glimpses in the garage when she's shooting screw drivers with an air chisel
and later when she's in Cambodia crusing through the jungle.  Oh yea, and
she rides in it while it gets air dropped from a helicopter.  And she is
pleasantly fronted ;)

Scooter

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:33:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Molson LR commercial

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Bruce D. Fowler wrote:

:I've made a note, not to cross any borders with you two....
:

Where's your sense of adventure?  I mean, really, just because one lousy
drug-sniffing drug sniffing dog decides she liked me, I've got long hair,
had what were suspicous answers to their questions ("How long have you been
in Vancouver?" "Er, six hours?") they decided I was some sort of drug kingpin.
I mean, if I were going to smuggle drugs, would I really take the list of
suspicous behaviors and make sure I met as many as possible?

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:38:05 -0400
From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RR's and getting ready.

  Ok, I've decided.  I'm taking Lucy to the BP.  I finally got the starter
back Thurs.  The guy put in a new armature, bushings, and brushes.  It
worked for one day last week so I took it back.  This time was much better.
Put it in, turn key, hit button, zoom!  Alright!  Out for a test drive to
get more supplies for BP.  Para cord at the local Army surplus, new BDU
pants, hat.  Two exits on the turn pike and Lucy's ready to over heat.  Pull
over to let her cool.  Back to the garage.  Around town is a little hot but,
on the highway is where she's getting real hot.  Dad say's it's clogged.
Borrow temp gun off another garage friend of ours and shoot the outside of
the rad.  Left side hot, right side 40F cooler.  Out comes the rad.  Off to
the rad shop Monday morning and hopefully back in Monday night.
  On to some wiring.  I would like to kick the person who invented
Scotch-Locks.  There everywhere!  But, I was warned of this when I bought
the truck.  Things have been working intermittently for awhile but has been
getting worse.  No interior lights, hit the horn (which makes no noise) and
I loose power to the cigar lighter, wipers working when they want to.  Off
to Advanced Auto for a 4 fuse block and wire it in.  Wow!  Things are
working.  A few more things to install, CB, GPS, cell phone, and I'm ready
for Calabogie.  Mounted limb risers and my Camel Trophy sign on the front of
the roof rack.  I cut out a piece of 1/4" steel plate and stuck it to that.
That won't bend when I drag a branch across it!  Hopefully Lucy will be
ready with 24 hours to spare before departure.  Now where did put my border
crossing kit? (fake ID, 8 cases of beer, and a small card that say's "I
wasn't convicted of anything, ever")

Scott C. Wickham Jr.
Pgh. Pa.
'72 88" (secretly disguised as a IIa)
'84 Range Rover
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Zebra Club Member #2
Birmabright Brotherhood member
http://drive.to/zebraclub

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:02:58 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Molson LR commercial

> I mean, if I were going to smuggle drugs, would I really take the list of
> suspicous behaviors and make sure I met as many as possible?

Judging from some of the charecters I met in jail, yes :-)
Pete

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:04:30 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: RR's and getting ready.

BP???

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:19:58 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Molson LR commercial

I've made a note, not to cross any borders with you two....

Bruce F.

Why Mr. Fowler, thank you for the compliment! I love being knoqn as
unsavoury.....8*)

                         ajr

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:12:10 -0400
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: RR's and getting ready.

At 03:04 PM 6/17/01  "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>,  wrote:

>BP???

The 18th OVLR Birthday party

http://www.ovlr.org/OVLR.bp17.info.html

Lori in NE Pennsylvania
http://www.simplerthyme.com/store/LR.html

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:14:26 -0400
From: Lori Sickley <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Molson LR commercial

At 12:44 AM 6/17/01, Scooter wrote:

>I saw it too!  Twice the other night.

Good a second siting! I'm relieved now, no need for intervention : )

>It is a great commertial.  I didn't
>see the front, was it a IIa?

Believe so, it also had a yellow rear door.

>  I'll have to get some Molsen for the BP to
>support them.

One method for Molson to grab some market share ; )

Here's a place to send them feedback and praise for their commercial or 
even invitations to events ; )
http://www.molson.com/feedback/content.ghtml
http://www.molson.com/home/main_smart.ghtml?/home/content.ghtml

Lori in NE Pennsylvania
http://www.simplerthyme.com/store/LR.html

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:40:49 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Molson LR commercial

Speaking of Tomb Raider, I saw my first Freelander commercial. It had
shots from her driving the 110 through all sorts of stuff, and then goes
to two nen standing outside saying something like" too bad she didn't 
take the Freelander". I laughed as it seemed to imply that the 
Freelander could kick a Defenders butt offroad.

Scott Wickham Jr. wrote:
> 
> I saw it too!  Twice the other night.  It is a great commertial.  I didn't
> see the front, was it a IIa?  I'll have to get some Molsen for the BP to
> support them.
>   And then later I saw Tomb Raider with Courtney.  More cool Rovers.  I was
> hoping to see more of the LR but, it isn't in there much.  A few quick
> glimpses in the garage when she's shooting screw drivers with an air chisel
> and later when she's in Cambodia crusing through the jungle.  Oh yea, and
> she rides in it while it gets air dropped from a helicopter.  And she is
> pleasantly fronted ;)
> 
> Scooter

- -- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:05:20 -0400
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Tomb Raider, very very little LR action but lots o Angeline Jolie

>I was disappointed by how little time the 110 gets in the movie 
>(probably on screen for less than a minute) but the fact that 
>Angelina Jolie gets a lot of time more than makes up for it.  :-)

Darn-it-all! I was really looking forward to some pleasantly-fronted 
Land Rover action.  Regarding being able to buy a "T-R" 110 in the 
UK--neat! I've actually been tossing about the idea of basing my 
(will it ever become a reality?) travel truck on the T-R rig. Of 
course mine will have a diesel engine...

Was thinking of christening the vehicle "Grave Pyrate." Figure 
that'll put me on some of the local anti-fun hit lists...

jeff
- -- 
==                                                                   
  Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT        
                     [email-masked]
                      ==================
	My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
	My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
	Taste for the good life, 
	I can see it no other way.
		--Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:19:15 -0400
From: Jeff Berg <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Best solo brake bleeder yet

I use the pressure bleeder "manufactured" (using a plastic garden 
sprayer) by Steve D'Gerolamo's Ultimate Garage and I like it just 
fine. Steve uses (extremely high quality) quick release airline 
fittings to connect the caps to the bleeder. You also get a very 
fancy milled aluminum cap appropriate for BMWs.

I bought a pair (brake and clutch master) of plastic caps from AB, 
drilled a hol in each, and mounted male quick-disconnect air 
fittings. You dump brake fluid into the bleeder. Pressurize it to 
15-20 pounds and crack the valve on the end of the hose.

Having seen the one I purchased, I could have easily built it from 
parts available at Home Depot and bought the BMW cap, and possibly 
the superior disconnects, separately through Steve.

"Forced Fluid" Pressure bleeding is definitely the easiest (and 
neatest/cleanest) way to go.

jeff

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:30:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Harder <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Molson LR commercial

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Scott Wickham Jr. wrote:
> Subject: RE: LRO: Molson LR commercial
> .....  And she is
> pleasantly fronted ;)

what a blast from the past.  i remember that
thread...

Sincerely,

Ray Harder 

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:42:27 -0400
From: Winn Bearden <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator

Martin Motors advertises a tropical series rad in the LR mags. It is also on
their website.  www.mm-4x4.com

Hope Peter wrote:

>
> I really would like to get one of these thicker cores.  Failing that, is
> there a match with another vehicle?  Something heavy duty I might find in a
> modine catalog?
> Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Pete

- --
Winn Bearden          19XX SIIa/SIII/RR 100" Hybrid
P.O. Box 464          1967 NADA 109" SW (x 2) slowly becoming one
Americus, GA 31709    1996 4.0 SE

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:00:00 -1000
From: "Peter Ogilvie" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator

FWIW  I put in a later style series III radiator and have noticed no 
difference in the running temperature.  At least no difference in 
temperature when there was water in the radiator which got increasingly 
uncommon as the old one started leaking more and more.

If you want to keep the old style and your header tank is still okay, you 
may be able to have it recored.  Should be some places in HNL that specilize 
in radiators and they'd be able to do the deed.  These places can make up 
almost any radiator to specifications and would probably be cheaper than 
buying new with the shipping.  Nothing's impossible given enough time and 
money.

Interesting that the Brit. suppliers advertise heavy duty tropical radiators 
that are made in Canada.  Haven't seen these radiators available from our NA 
suppliers.

Aloha
Peter O.

>From: Winn Bearden <[email-masked]>
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator
>Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:42:27 -0400
>
>Martin Motors advertises a tropical series rad in the LR mags. It is also 
>on
>their website.  www.mm-4x4.com
>
>Hope Peter wrote:
>
> >
> > I really would like to get one of these thicker cores.  Failing that, is
> > there a match with another vehicle?  Something heavy duty I might find 
>in a
> > modine catalog?
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Pete
>
>--
>Winn Bearden          19XX SIIa/SIII/RR 100" Hybrid
>P.O. Box 464          1967 NADA 109" SW (x 2) slowly becoming one
>Americus, GA 31709    1996 4.0 SE
>
>

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:54:35 +0100
From: "Frank Elson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Guinness

Paul asks if the Bolton Evening News has a website.
 Yes, it's
www.thisisbolton.co.uk
 but I dunno if they have an archive with past articles on - in fact, I've
never bothered looking at it myself (on the grounds that I should have seen
it all in the real or written it...)
if it's not there I could get it out of my dual folder and email it direct -
but then you'd just get the bare words, not the pix etc...
 (mind you, in all humility I reckon the best bits are the words!)
Best Cheers

Frank
    +--+--+--+
     I !__|  [_]|_\___
     I ____|"_|"__|_ | /     B791 PKV
     "(o)======(o)"    Bronze Green 110 CSW

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:58:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Guinness

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Frank Elson wrote:

:Paul asks if the Bolton Evening News has a website.
: Yes, it's
:www.thisisbolton.co.uk
: but I dunno if they have an archive with past articles on - in fact, I've
:never bothered looking at it myself (on the grounds that I should have seen
:it all in the real or written it...)

I looked, and a cursory search only turns up a story by you about the pub of
the year.  (Frank in a pub?  I'm shocked!)

David

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:00:43 -0400
From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator

I recently had my original IIA radiator recored to original spec by a local 
guy here in Rhode Island.  I think I paid just a drop or two over $100.

John Karlsson
Hope Valley, RI

>If you want to keep the old style and your header tank is still okay, you 
>may be able to have it recored.  Should be some places in HNL that 
>specilize in radiators and they'd be able to do the deed.  These places 
>can make up almost any radiator to specifications and would probably be 
>cheaper than buying new with the shipping.  Nothing's impossible given 
>enough time and money.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:07:12 -0500
From: car4doc <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Chevy V6

Hi All,
Well here is a list of parts used in my conversion to a 4.3 chevy in my
109 LR
I am very happy with my conversion.
Hope it helps someone else do the same conversion.
Rob Davis_Chicago

Distributor  1985 86 astro HEI
 Ignition 1976 chevy v8 CBE4P control MODULE

Bushing napa  615-1024  id changed to .878  +0005

engine 1990 4x4 S10  4.3 v6 chevy
sanders headers block huggers
Throttle cable

flywheel 1987 firebird or camaro  12 3/4 dia.

Starter 1987 camaro or firebird
clutch 9.5 land rover

Scotties trans adapter
studs 3/8

edelbrock intake
edelbrock carb

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:10:00 -0700
From: "Rich & Lori Williams" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator

I own a Series II.  The only thing I could do was to replace it's radiator
with a IIa unit because II radiators are NLA so I went and had a guy recore
mine.  It looks great, and after a can of black Rustoleum it looks like the
genuine thing.  The owner of the shop is the original owner of a FJ40 and
put this super high efficiency core in his truck and dropped the operating
temp between 5-10 degrees.  Dad uses the same core in all of his old
Jaguars.  I think dad said it was 300%+ more efficient than a 40 year old
Jaguar radiator.  I assume the same would hold true for LRs.  Anyway, it's
called an MX core or something like that.  Cheaper than most quality
aluminum cores and the added benefit here is that it's made of copper.
Impale the radiator with a tree branch or an antler (yuck) and put a nice
hole in the radiator and it can be welded right up with ease compared to the
Al units.

Rich
'60 SII 109sw

- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: LRO: Radiator

> I recently had my original IIA radiator recored to original spec by a
local
> guy here in Rhode Island.  I think I paid just a drop or two over $100.
>
> John Karlsson
> Hope Valley, RI
>
>
> >If you want to keep the old style and your header tank is still okay, you
> >may be able to have it recored.  Should be some places in HNL that
> >specilize in radiators and they'd be able to do the deed.  These places
> >can make up almost any radiator to specifications and would probably be
> >cheaper than buying new with the shipping.  Nothing's impossible given
> >enough time and money.
>

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:29:28 +0700
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Chevy V6

Hi Rob,
Did you use the 4.3 V6 engine assy, engine type: Vortec 4295cc V6 SFi
(sequential fuel injection), 6 cylinders V6 configuration, DOHC 24 valves fro
Chevy Blazer built year 1995 - 1998??

I am looking for this engine asssy + its automatic gearbox + all ancillaries for
convertion project of Chevy Blazer 2.2L SOHC engine assy which sold here, where
did you buy this completed set??

Thank you.

Regards,
Abdi Siregar

car4doc <[email-masked]>@Works.Team.Net on 18/06/2001 11:07:12

Please respond to [email-masked]

Sent by:  [email-masked]

To:   [email-masked]
cc:    (bcc: Abdi Siregar/TPJ)

Subject:  Re: LRO: Chevy V6

Hi All,
Well here is a list of parts used in my conversion to a 4.3 chevy in my
109 LR
I am very happy with my conversion.
Hope it helps someone else do the same conversion.
Rob Davis_Chicago

Distributor  1985 86 astro HEI
 Ignition 1976 chevy v8 CBE4P control MODULE

Bushing napa  615-1024  id changed to .878  +0005

engine 1990 4x4 S10  4.3 v6 chevy
sanders headers block huggers
Throttle cable

flywheel 1987 firebird or camaro  12 3/4 dia.

Starter 1987 camaro or firebird
clutch 9.5 land rover

Scotties trans adapter
studs 3/8

edelbrock intake
edelbrock carb

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:25:36 -0600
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Chevy V6

Rob,
2 questions re. the conversion:

1) What does the control module do on a carburetted engine?

2) Did you have to do anything w/ the steering box?  If no, is it because
 yours is RHD? Or do the hugger headers not foul the stock LHD steering
box?

3) OK, so I thought of a third:  what kind of fuel mileage do you get?

This is most interesting to me since I already have the Scotty's adapter
and sure wouldn't mind a whole bunch of extra power.

bill

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:07:12 -0500 car4doc <[email-masked]> writes:
> Hi All,
> Well here is a list of parts used in my conversion to a 4.3 chevy in 
> my
> 109 LR
> I am very happy with my conversion.
> Hope it helps someone else do the same conversion.
> Rob Davis_Chicago
> 
> Distributor  1985 86 astro HEI
>  Ignition 1976 chevy v8 CBE4P control MODULE
> 
> Bushing napa  615-1024  id changed to .878  +0005
> 
> engine 1990 4x4 S10  4.3 v6 chevy
> sanders headers block huggers
> Throttle cable
> 
> flywheel 1987 firebird or camaro  12 3/4 dia.
> 
> Starter 1987 camaro or firebird
> clutch 9.5 land rover
> 
> Scotties trans adapter
> studs 3/8
> 
> edelbrock intake
> edelbrock carb
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:25:50 +0100
From: Paul <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO:  Guinness/Franks Civil War article

In article <000201c0f770$cd757a40$0c02020a@FrankElson>, Frank Elson wrote:
> if it's not there I could get it out of my dual folder and email it direct -
> but then you'd just get the bare words, not the pix etc...
>  (mind you, in all humility I reckon the best bits are the words!)
>
 I have had a look and it does not appear to be there :(
 I would certainly like to read the article, if you wouldn`t mind e-mailing it 
to me. It doesn`t matter how long it is because I am on ADSL.
 
 All the best
 
 Paul

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:40:01 -0400
From: "RON WARD" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: RR's and getting ready.

OVLR Birthday Party.

>>> [email-masked] 06/17/01 03:04PM >>>
BP???

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:55:21 -0400
From: "Tackley, John" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RE: French Beer...

Alex chimed...

"Fisher D'Alsace is heaven in a bottle"...

I'll second that, kind sir...plus the bottles have nice bail tops which
makes 'em irresistable to LROs, as they just can't be disposed of...you
know, they just might come in handy some day...for storing some vitally
necessary LR fluid...use 'em as 'bowlers' and have 'em refilled at your
local craft brewers!
This comment from someone who pumps 100% French blood in his veins, but had
to travel to namesake village in the UK to research his lineage & family
history (...Heugonots who fled France to England long about the 1500s)
...so, after 4 or 500 years, guess I can consider myself English, roight?)

Long live the Queen...

JT/ric

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