Re: LRO: Replacing footwells

From: Frank Elson (frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Jun 13 2001 - 15:15:17 EDT

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    the brazing will still break and the rivets will hold the panels in, so why
    bother?
    Best Cheers

    Frank
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Michael Hatton <mhatton@compt.com>
    To: <lro@Works.Team.Net>
    Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:40 PM
    Subject: Re: LRO: Replacing footwells

    > How about this.....
    > If I rivet the footwells in and then braze the overlaps for a more
    > permanent seal. I am only replacing the bottom half of the toe boards and
    the side
    > kick panels. Most of these are substantially OK, so I can get a good
    > overlap. Welding quote was CA$ 675! The few times I have got stuff welded
    > they have done an atrocious stuff, and the people I can trust are way too
    > busy.
    >
    > Michael Hatton
    >
    > On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Peter Ogilvie wrote:
    >
    > > Haven't any first hand experience but a number of people have riveted in
    the
    > > replacement footwells. Use some kind of permanent marine sealant where
    the
    > > parts overlap, drill and pop. Riveting will be nearly as strong as
    welding.
    > > If you don't know how to weld and don't have the equipment, you won't
    have
    > > to develop a talent you may not have an aptititude for or spend the
    money on
    > > a welder. You could hire the welding but believe welders charge by the
    inch
    > > and footwells have a lot of inches to weld. So, unless you weld
    yourself or
    > > have a friend who works for beer, riveting has its strong points.
    > >
    > > Aloha
    > > Peter O.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <Alan_Richer@Lotus.com>
    > > > Anyone have any tips on brazing in replacement footwells, I am
    > > >hoping to start on this next week, so that I can continue with the
    > > >frameover.
    > > >Yup - brazing is right out on structural steel (which anything attached
    to
    > > >the bulkhead is) Find a weldor and save yourself a lot of grief.
    > > >
    > > >Brazes, because they are not metal fusion, will crack and fail. Not a
    good
    > > >idea....also against the law in inspection depending on the state.
    > > >
    > > >I've seen brazed repairs after a while - one 88 I bought had brazed-on
    > > >outriggers - which had cracked along 3 sides and were peeling off the
    frame
    > > >underneath. The brazing had failed...not the metal substrate. That
    frame
    > > >got scrapped in a big hurry....
    > > >
    > > >If you do all the prep and fitting getting the stuff welded should be
    cheap
    > > >enough...
    > > > ajr
    > >
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