Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #383

From: [email-masked] (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:27:11 -0400

LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Wednesday, May 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 383

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:50:15 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Brakes Again

Dave
I went through the same thing. Almost everything was new or rebuilt. I 
replaced the master cylinder, brake lines, flex hoses, and brake shoes. I 
held off on replacing the brake drums because they looked good and measured 
with venire calipers checked within tolerance.

After the drums were finally replaced and the shoes adjusted to the new drums 
the brakes finally work on the first pump.

Bill Fishel

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Date: Wed, 23 May 01 08:55:56 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: parabolic springs?  Fact or fad?

>What's the collection group opinon on parabolic springs?  This is for a 
>Dormobile that I ultimately plan to hang an extra water tank onto also so 
>heavy duty would probably be necessary.

Paul Heystee believes the heavy duty rears of his latest line of 
parabolics would work on the Green Rover just fine.  The springs he 
carries have been revised and upgraded about half a year ago.

If they are supposed to work on mine (rear fuel tank & 15 gallon water 
tank) then they should work on yours.

Mind you I have not tried them myself.

>'63 LR SII A Dormobile.... Humty Dumpty:  It may take all the King's men to 
>put Humty Dumpty together again.  Any volunteers?  :-)

Maybe some of us can help out come fall or winter when the termperature 
drops down into the "just hot" levels.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:00:31 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Solex Vacuum Advance/Retard

>When I got the SII, the vacuum advance (retard?) port on the carb was
>blocked off.  I've got the neccessary ( I think )  bits to plumb it back
in
>to the distributor now.  I ordered a copper pipe from RN last year.  It
>threads into the Solex fine but at the other end is a threaded fitting
while
>on the distributor the fitting looks like it wants to mate up to a rubber
>vacuum line.  Should I cut off the threaded fitting on the pipe and clamp
on
>a rubber vacuum hose from it to the distributor?

The distributor you have is not original to the vehicle - it's a later 25D4
from likely a Zenith-equipped vehicle. When they went away from the Solex
they changed to a rubber line for this,  hence your tube

Were I you I'd simply use a short bit of rubber vacuum line to mate the two
- - it will work fine.

What I did on Mister C. when I wen to the SOlex was to use the end of the
line with the fitting and olive as a stub and attached a rubber vacuum line
there - and then ran the line down to the distributor in rubber rather than
copper.

>Also, should the carb end of the pipe (with the olive) be flaired once the
>olive and nut are on it?

No, the olive will compress and hold the line when you install it (think
compression pipe fitting).

               ajr
TIA

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:45:29 -0400
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Brakes Again

Have you rebuilt the master cylinder? I had a similar "backwash" when the 
tab on the spring retainer wasn't engaging. I could get some pressure in 
the system but very little. To fix, we pulled the piston out of the master 
cylinder and bent the tab into place so that it locked.

Keith Tanner, looking for doortops

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Solex and Rustoleum

- --- The Stockdales <[email-masked]> wrote:
> The Red Dinosaur is painted Rusto-Regal Red, ...It does fade nicely
after about 5
> years.

That's good to know. RedSq. is painted regal red also. I was worried
that it wouldn't fade fast enough.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:22:31 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Brakes Again

Could it be i have the master cyl adjusted too far to the end of the shaft?

Dave

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:25:48 -0400
From: "David G. Russell" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: sighting

On 23/5/01 at 11:49, "N Forbes" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Anybody see "Motor Week" today on Speedvision? I turned it on partway
> through and they were at some Land Rover training course. First thing
> I saw when I switched to it was a SIIa (I think) leading a bunch of
> Discos and a Range Rover on a trail. It was pretty tame stuff but it
> was still cool to see. Wish I'd seen the whole piece.

Speaking of which, has anybody ever seen _any_ video footage from the
2000 British Invasion at Stowe?

There was a two person crew (who had done some Speedvision work, I
believe) there that went on the trials course (with Quentin and some
others I believe). Although they were filming for the BI video, they
said there might be a chance for broadcast.

- -David

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:23:30 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Brakes Again

Paul:

Yes all my posts are loose i will check to see if welding helps

Dave

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:31:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

- --- Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Secondly, if your Marsland is like all the others i've seen it was
> likely
> galvanized with the crossmember in place. Good luck getting it
> out....<grin>. 

I've done it both ways. With the removable x/member, you can slide the
complete unit out from under the truck *WITHOUT LIFTING THE TRUCK AT
ALL* just by taking the extra step of removing the red-knobbed hi-lo
lever. That is if you are doing the job on a hard surface. 

IMO, it is much easier tyo do this than fighting with the seatbox. I
would very much like to never have to remove a series seatbox ever
again in mylife. But I know that will never be the case. The remvoable
trans x-member was likely, as Chairman Al Richer noted, galvainzed in
place. But we had no problem removing the bolts on the one I did. You
do need to lever the x-member out with a crowbar or somesuch and you
will need to support the trans assembly. A regular large size floor
jack works fine, since the x member isn't there, you have a little more
room to position it. Basically you save yourself the hassle of getting
the seatbox out, and also the need for an enginee crane. You will need
a 2 x4 and a come-along to reinstall the gearbox though. 

I don't know why anyone would bother to do the seatbox removal dance
when they have a perfectly good removable trans x-member. What a
phenomenal waste of time and effort.  

> it's a lot easier to do (and can be done standing up) than the
> bottom-drop
> method for those not lift equipped.

Bollocks! You don't need a lift at all. Without a crane, how do you get
the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top? 

Dave

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

- --- [email-masked] wrote:
> How can it pass the DOT crash and rollover standards without a
> rollcage?  

Because they don't exist. That's NHTSA's department.

Most of the ECR 110's don't have a roolcage either. And come to think
of it, this one does. Its inside though.

Dave

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:44:40 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Brakes Again

Re: Misadjusted master:

Not likely - been here, done that and got a rock-hard pedal and locked
brakes for it.

Too much play leads to a low but consistent pedal - too little leads to a
locked pedal.

                    ajr

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:51:27 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

Bollocks yerself, Bobeck!

> Without a crane, how do you get
>the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top?

>Dave

Easily - done it more than once w/ a lousy Come-along and the roof off in
my garage...or under a tree...or under a swing set...or wherever.

I do, however, have an engine crane now and tend not to perform such
silliness anymore.

               ajr

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:58:54 -0500
From: "Smokey Briggs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: PTO praise

You never know when a PTO winch is going to save the day.

You take a lot of grief owning an unairconditioned vehicle that tops out at
50 in West Texas. I publish the newspaper here in Pecos. This morning we got
a special shipment of paper in. Paper comes in 1,000 pound rolls, 27 inches
wide. Our shipments are supposed to be shipped rolling, since we do not have
the equipment to move it when it is laid down flat. Well, this 24 roll
shipment came on the flats. You just cannot pick one of these up and set it
on end, no matter how many people you have, and its not safe to try.

Long story short, after much scratching, I finally remembered the Koenig
winch on the front bumber of the rover. A little southern engineering and
presto, one very capable roll-tipping machine. That winch saved a lot of
money today.

All the best from West Texas
Smokey Briggs

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:57:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Brakes Again

On Wed, 23 May 2001 [email-masked] wrote:

:Paul:
:
:Yes all my posts are loose i will check to see if welding helps

That will make a difference.  But, if it's shooting fluid out of the
resevoir, there's something wrong with the master.  Fix that first!  You may
find yourself without any brakes at all.  that's no fun.

David

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:03:35 -0500
From: "Smokey Briggs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

I like taking it out the door, with a hoist or without. When we did not have
a hoist we just lifted it out but it was a bit heavy. Mostly I like the
control I get with the hoist when I'm putting it back together compared to
jockeying a tranny in on a jack. We just replaced the trans/xfer caseon a 43
J**p GPW (quite a bit smaller than a rover set up and has removeable
crossmember) and it was a holy bear getting it in from underneath. Never had
a removable cross member on a rover though.

Smokey Briggs
Pecos, Texas

- ----- Original Message -----
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

>
> --- Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > Secondly, if your Marsland is like all the others i've seen it was
> > likely
> > galvanized with the crossmember in place. Good luck getting it
> > out....<grin>.
>
> I've done it both ways. With the removable x/member, you can slide the
> complete unit out from under the truck *WITHOUT LIFTING THE TRUCK AT
> ALL* just by taking the extra step of removing the red-knobbed hi-lo
> lever. That is if you are doing the job on a hard surface.
>
> IMO, it is much easier tyo do this than fighting with the seatbox. I
> would very much like to never have to remove a series seatbox ever
> again in mylife. But I know that will never be the case. The remvoable
> trans x-member was likely, as Chairman Al Richer noted, galvainzed in
> place. But we had no problem removing the bolts on the one I did. You
> do need to lever the x-member out with a crowbar or somesuch and you
> will need to support the trans assembly. A regular large size floor
> jack works fine, since the x member isn't there, you have a little more
> room to position it. Basically you save yourself the hassle of getting
> the seatbox out, and also the need for an enginee crane. You will need
> a 2 x4 and a come-along to reinstall the gearbox though.
>
> I don't know why anyone would bother to do the seatbox removal dance
> when they have a perfectly good removable trans x-member. What a
> phenomenal waste of time and effort.
>
> > it's a lot easier to do (and can be done standing up) than the
> > bottom-drop
> > method for those not lift equipped.
>
> Bollocks! You don't need a lift at all. Without a crane, how do you get
> the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top?
>
> Dave
>
>
> =====
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dicier.
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:44:42 -0400
From: John Karlsson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

I've done it with a crane and the roof off, but I think it's a lot easier 
to leave the roof on, use a rope slung around the transmission and a 2x6 , 
and find a helper to handle one end of the board.

John

At 12:51 PM 5/23/2001, you wrote:

>Bollocks yerself, Bobeck!
>
> > Without a crane, how do you get
> >the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top?
>
> >Dave
>
>Easily - done it more than once w/ a lousy Come-along and the roof off in
>my garage...or under a tree...or under a swing set...or wherever.
>
>I do, however, have an engine crane now and tend not to perform such
>silliness anymore.
>
>                ajr

John Karlsson
956 Main Street
P.O. Box 1023
Hope Valley, RI  02832

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:54:16 -0400
From: Gerald <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: PTO praise

Smokey,

Nice story. Did you take some pictures?

On Wed, 23 May 2001 10:58:54 -0500, you wrote:

. . . .
>Long story short, after much scratching, I finally remembered the Koenig
>winch on the front bumber of the rover. A little southern engineering and
>presto, one very capable roll-tipping machine. That winch saved a lot of
>money today.

- --
Gerald
[email-masked]

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:53:39 -0400
From: "Ted Treanor" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RE: PTO praise

What a great story. It's great when you can show off to non-rover people.
"Hero for a day." I had a friend who was trying to replace a strut insert on
his '74 Super Beatle. The old one was rusted in solid. I strapped one end of
the strut to the font bumper of my 88" and the rusted insert to a metal post
that was sunk in concrete. I put the rover in 4wd-low, put it in reverse, a
little gas, and the insert came right out! Perhaps it was a little overkill
but it was fun being able to "save the day" with my rover.

Ted Treanor
1962 88" SW
Trumbull, CT

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On
Behalf Of Smokey Briggs
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:59 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: PTO praise

You never know when a PTO winch is going to save the day.

You take a lot of grief owning an unairconditioned vehicle that tops out at
50 in West Texas. I publish the newspaper here in Pecos. This morning we got
a special shipment of paper in. Paper comes in 1,000 pound rolls, 27 inches
wide. Our shipments are supposed to be shipped rolling, since we do not have
the equipment to move it when it is laid down flat. Well, this 24 roll
shipment came on the flats. You just cannot pick one of these up and set it
on end, no matter how many people you have, and its not safe to try.

Long story short, after much scratching, I finally remembered the Koenig
winch on the front bumber of the rover. A little southern engineering and
presto, one very capable roll-tipping machine. That winch saved a lot of
money today.

All the best from West Texas
Smokey Briggs

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:59:04 -0500
From: "Smokey Briggs" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: PTO praise

Would you believe I did not get a single picture? Some newspaperman. But the
shipment was three days late and the print job was a day late so time was
money. We needed the paper off the truck and the press rolling. Didn't think
of pictures until we were wiping the sweat off and wishing we had a beer.

All the best,

Smokey Briggs
Pecos, Texas
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: LRO: PTO praise

> Smokey,
>
> Nice story. Did you take some pictures?
>
> On Wed, 23 May 2001 10:58:54 -0500, you wrote:
>
> . . . .
> >Long story short, after much scratching, I finally remembered the Koenig
> >winch on the front bumber of the rover. A little southern engineering and
> >presto, one very capable roll-tipping machine. That winch saved a lot of
> >money today.
>
>
> --
> Gerald
> [email-masked]
>

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:10:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

- --- Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Easily - done it more than once w/ a lousy Come-along and the roof
> off in
> my garage...or under a tree...or under a swing set...or wherever.
>> I do, however, have an engine crane now and tend not to perform such
> silliness anymore.

See, even you admit its better to have a crane. With the roof on,
removing the trans from above without one (or without alot of rigging
savvy and creativity) requires swinging a heavy, awkward load off
center or lifting using just your lower back muscles. Dropping it out
the bottom, -and it sounds like your opinion on that is based merely on
speculation- is much easier, and safer. I've removed and installed
rover transmissions both ways, as well as others. 

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:29:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: DaveB <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

- --- John Karlsson <[email-masked]> wrote:
> I've done it with a crane and the roof off, but I think it's a lot
> easier 
> to leave the roof on, use a rope slung around the transmission and a
> 2x6 , 
> and find a helper to handle one end of the board.

I've carried enough transmissions. No more. Lifting it with a crane and
rolling the crane out is easier than carrying it, 2x6 or no. When I say
"crane" I am referring to the ubiquitous 1 or 2 ton purpose-built
hydraulic engine hoist on casters.  

For clutch jobs, I use a 2x4 supported by the inside roof rails. A
large (3/8") eye bolt and a come-along are suspended through the 2x4.  

This also works well for removing and installing the trans out the
bottom, when there is a removablee trans x-member. Of course, *all*
trans x-members are *technically* removable. 

If you had two people using the "2x4 technique," you could use the 2x4
to carry the gearbox out of the car once it's above the frame.

I've heard alot of people say you have to jack the car up really high
to lower the trans out but it just isn't true. In my case we did have
to remove the red lever to clear the frame. Big deal. I think that is a
1 bolt job. And it's a well oiled and easily accesible bolt, unlike the
12 or 14 rusty little buggers holding the seatbox in. Of course you can
only undo those after you remove the seat frmaes, so add four to that
number. As for the four bolts holding the removablee x member in place,
well, they do have a little zinc on em. But zinc is soft, and they
should (did in my case) come straight out.

Reinstalling the x-member required judicious use of a rubber mallet.
big deal.

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:32:00 -0600
From: "Tim Czajka" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Solex and Rustoleum

Mitch Stockdale wrote:
>The Red Dinosaur is painted Rusto-Regal Red, ...It does fade nicely after 
>about 5 years.
>
Back in my poor college days, in a fit of madness, I painted
my 65 Mustang with rattle can Zylon red.  The cheap garbage
started to fade and chalk within the year, and soon everyone
who brushed against that car had a souvenir of red paint on
their clothing.

Although not as bad as my friend who painted his 67 Chevy
pickup with black Rustoleum.  Then volunteered to pull a float
in a parade two days later - with the paint still tacky.  After
a day of coeds piled in the back, climbing in and out - so
much for the shiny paint job.  There after it was known as
the finger print mobile for obvious reasons.

Tim Czajka
1972 Series III 88
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:58:13 -0600
From: "William J. Rice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DaveB <[email-masked]

Without a crane, how do you 
> get
> the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top? 

John Dillingham and I got the trans out of a parts truck by using a long
2" or so aluminum pipe w/ some webbing draped around the middle of it. 
We wrapped the webbing around the tranny, one of us stood outside each
door, and we carried the tranny out like big game hunters w/ a dead
animal on a stick.  

bill

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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:15:14 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

I have remove my tranny twice now.  Removed floor and seat box.  Seperate
transfer case from tranny, then tranny from engine.  No crane needed.  With
the xfer case off the tranny, installation was a breeze.  very easy to line
up shaft and clutch and she slid back in.
I have a removable xmember under the tranny, but still find this method of
removal much easier then laying on the ground.  The 2 components seperate
very easily and are very manueverable after wards.
Pete

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:26:41 -0600
From: "Todd Kendrick" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Tranny Problems

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Taos, NM
'66 109" P/U

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:14:02 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Tranny Problems

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In a message dated 5/23/01 5:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> Am I missing something here ?
>      
> 

Todd,
You might be missing the gear that was on the mainshaft before the OD was 
fitted. This gear is removed and the OD is fitted in it's place. The gear 
will need to be installed before the mainshaft will engage with the rest of 
the transfer case otherwise it will just sit and spin freely.
Tony Miller
1973 Ser.III Lightweight
Balto. Md.

 ANTHONY D. MILLER & Co.
        ~ The Tintype Artist ~
      Ambrotypes & Ferrotypes
           34 Perryfalls Place
    Baltimore, Maryland 21236
                 410-256-7442
       www.tintype-artist.com

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 5/23/01 5:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
<BR>[email-masked] writes:
<BR>
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Am I missing something here ?</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR>Todd,
<BR>You might be missing the gear that was on the mainshaft before the OD was 
<BR>fitted. This gear is removed and the OD is fitted in it's place. The gear 
<BR>will need to be installed before the mainshaft will engage with the rest of 
<BR>the transfer case otherwise it will just sit and spin freely.
<BR>Tony Miller
<BR>1973 Ser.III Lightweight
<BR>Balto. Md.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="StageCoach" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Bliss" LANG="0">A</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Bliss" LANG="0">NTHONY D. MILLER &amp; Co.
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~ The Tintype Artist ~
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ambrotypes &amp; Ferrotypes
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;34 Perryfalls Place
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Baltimore, Maryland 21236
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;410-256-7442
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;www.tintype-artist.com</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="StageCoach" LANG="0">
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:36:58 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: Rock Sliders

Is anyone making rock sliders for Series trucks?  I want to equip my 109 
ex-MOD with some under body / sill protection.  The truck is one of the 
former ambulances converted to a three door regular, so it won't be a typical 
application.  Or is my best bet going to be a local fabricator?

Thanks,

Bob Sharp
Tucson, AZ
The slumbering herd on the Rover Ranch:
52 Series I 80"
53 Series I 80"
60 Series II 88"
63 Series IIa 88"
71 Series IIa 109"
96 Discovery Series I 

"Why is it that every project you complete on a Land Rover results in 
knowledge and skills you hope you never need to use again?"

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:50:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Tranny Problems

On Wed, 23 May 2001, Todd Kendrick wrote:

:    So I took my over drive off thinking the problem w/ my tranny was
:    the loose mainshaft nut. The nut was little loose but not as much
:    as I was hoping. So instead of putting the OD back on I just put
:    the mainshaft bearing housing back on. Now the truck will not
:    move. In the forward gears I get no noise or anything; in reverse
:    it gives a spinning/whining sound from the gearbox. I have the
:    tried the t-case in lo and hi range and no difference. Am I missing
:    something here ? So I go back and try and put the OD back on and

Er, the gear that connects the tranny and transfer box, it soounds like.  It
comes off when you install the OD, and needs to go back in when you remove
the OD>

David
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[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:05:30 -0400
From: Stephen West-Fisher <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Solex Vacuum Advance/Retard

Paul Quin wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I overhauled my Solex with new jets and gaskets all around.  The
> performance is much better now.  Not really any more power, just much
> smoother and quieter (the whistle is almost gone...)  and a better idle.
> 
> When I got the SII, the vacuum advance (retard?) port on the carb was
> blocked off.  I've got the neccessary ( I think )  bits to plumb it back in
> to the distributor now.  I ordered a copper pipe from RN last year.  It
> threads into the Solex fine but at the other end is a threaded fitting while
> on the distributor the fitting looks like it wants to mate up to a rubber
> vacuum line.  Should I cut off the threaded fitting on the pipe and clamp on
> a rubber vacuum hose from it to the distributor?
> 
> Also, should the carb end of the pipe (with the olive) be flaired once the
> olive and nut are on it?

The advance on my distributer is a threaded fitting ('60 model).

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:37:04 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

In a message dated 5/23/2001 12:36:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

<< -- [email-masked] wrote:
 > How can it pass the DOT crash and rollover standards without a
 > rollcage?  
 
 Because they don't exist. That's NHTSA's department.
 
 Most of the ECR 110's don't have a roolcage either. And come to think
 of it, this one does. Its inside though.
 
 Dave >>

Hey there big boy...

NHTSA is a division of DOT  (web address--www.nhtsa.DOT.gov

Nate

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:41:32 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

Or take the x-fer case off first, and then the tranny is a 1 person job.

John Karlsson wrote:
> 
> I've done it with a crane and the roof off, but I think it's a lot easier
> to leave the roof on, use a rope slung around the transmission and a 2x6 ,
> and find a helper to handle one end of the board.
> 
> John
> 
> At 12:51 PM 5/23/2001, you wrote:
> 
> >Bollocks yerself, Bobeck!
> >
> > > Without a crane, how do you get
> > >the trans out the door of the truck when you come out the top?
> >
> > >Dave
> >
> >Easily - done it more than once w/ a lousy Come-along and the roof off in
> >my garage...or under a tree...or under a swing set...or wherever.
> >
> >I do, however, have an engine crane now and tend not to perform such
> >silliness anymore.
> >
> >                ajr
> 
> John Karlsson
> 956 Main Street
> P.O. Box 1023
> Hope Valley, RI  02832

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Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:07:41 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: positive ground radios - no LR content

I think I may have an old am from my dad's XKE-150, but I'm not
positive,
no pun intended. I'm not sure if it is positive or negative ground. It 
had tubes, but I think some or all are missing. I can look for it if you 
want.

Rich & Lori Williams wrote:
> 
> I am posting this for my dad to see if anyone out there can help.  He's got
> a 1959 Jaguar XK150s Roadster and wants to put a vintage radio in it.
> Trouble is, he can't find any that are 40 years old AND are positive ground.
> And no, he won't switch.  He's a Concours freak - need I say more?  So does
> anyone know where he can find an old AM/FM positive ground radio?  Some had
> a switch in the back that would allow you to pick + or - ground.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich Williams
> SII 109 SW

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Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:15:41 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Rock Sliders

Probably a local fabricator or even better, local LR owner with a welder
as they are easy to make. I have made some, and may make a pair for 
Simon H, but it seems like tolerances vary widely as I had to go down to
Colo Springs to modify a pair made for a guy down there. They fit fine
on my rover, but were off by 3/4" on his.

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> Is anyone making rock sliders for Series trucks?  I want to equip my 109
> ex-MOD with some under body / sill protection.  The truck is one of the
> former ambulances converted to a three door regular, so it won't be a typical
> application.  Or is my best bet going to be a local fabricator?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob Sharp
> Tucson, AZ
> The slumbering herd on the Rover Ranch:
> 52 Series I 80"
> 53 Series I 80"
> 60 Series II 88"
> 63 Series IIa 88"
> 71 Series IIa 109"
> 96 Discovery Series I
> 
> "Why is it that every project you complete on a Land Rover results in
> knowledge and skills you hope you never need to use again?"

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Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:18:40 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Tranny Problems

Did you put a new lock washer on with the OD? If so, did you remove the
tabs you didn't need? These will hit the splines on the OD and keep it
from going in all the way.

Todd Kendrick wrote:
>  So I took my over drive off thinking the problem w/ my tranny was the loose mainshaft nut. The nut was little loose but not as much as I was hoping. So instead of putting the OD back on I just put the mainshaft bearing housing back on. Now the truck will not move. In the forward gears I get no noise or anything; in reverse it gives a spinning/whining sound from the gearbox. I have the tried the t-case in lo and hi range and no difference. Am I missing something here ?
     So I go back and try and put the OD back on and it does not want to
mount back flush w/ the gearbox. I can start the nuts on the studs but
it is about a half inch short of being flush. I do not want to break one
of the flanges on the OD so here I am. Are there any special tricks to
putting the OD back on ? Why would it not move w/ just the mainshaft
bearing housing on ?  Any help and input much appreciated.

Todd Kendrick
Taos, NM
'66 109" P/U

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Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:20:46 -0400
From: The Eastons <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Mad May Muddiness

TARC's Mad May Muddiness takes place this weekend Sunday May 27,
Starting fro 124 Central Avenue Grimsby. at 12 Noon. A tour of the
unimproved roads on the Niagara escarpment. Plenty of rain the last
couple of days so trails should be quite challenging. All are welcome.

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:22:21 -0700
From: "Gerry Elam" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: parabolic springs? Fact or fad?

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.  =20

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e to the Mexico border) this weekend where hopefully, it'll cool down to =
a mere 103.

Thanks and best regards from PHX!
Gerry

>'63 LR SII A Dormobile.... Humty Dumpty:  It may take all the King's men=
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>put Humty Dumpty together again.  Any volunteers?  :-)

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