Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #381

From: [email-masked] (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:50:37 -0400

LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *  Monday, May 21 2001  Volume 01 : Number 381

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:18:44 -0500
From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Swag

"The Becketts" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>SWAG  - the two main meanings are: (1) the booty carried off by burglars or
>(2) in Australia, a bedroll one carries (hence swagman - equiv of US hobo or
>tramp).   I have a swag when I go camping.

Agreed, but in engineering and other circles, it means "scientific
wild-assed guess"....

Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary-----*
  |                                                    |
  |              A. P. "Sandy" Grice                   |
  |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
  |  (757)423-4898  (757)622-7054  FAX (757)622-7056   |
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  *----1972 Series III 88"----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:36:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Swag

On Fri, 18 May 2001, A. P. "Sandy" Grice wrote:

:"The Becketts" <[email-masked]> wrote:
:
:>SWAG  - the two main meanings are: (1) the booty carried off by burglars or
:>(2) in Australia, a bedroll one carries (hence swagman - equiv of US hobo or
:>tramp).   I have a swag when I go camping.
:
:Agreed, but in engineering and other circles, it means "scientific
:wild-assed guess"....
:

In "other" circles, it means low-quality marijuana.

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:52:33 -0400
From: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: Series III "Green Bible"

Hi all, 

Since I am new to series III, I don't have a "Green Bible", even though I have the ser IIA workshop manuals. 

Today I saw on Amazon a "Land Rover Ser3 repair manual ill -Year- 1991 manual" (approx 300pps part#AKM3648 ISBN - 185520108) for $37.50 plus $6.95 S&H 

This price seems awfully cheap for a complete workshop manual. 

Is the Series III workshop manual a 2 parter like the IIA manual? 

Cheers, 
Ray Burton 
'64 IIA 109 SW
'70 IIA 88 Hardtop
'73 III 109 softtop (ex-MoD)
'84 RR

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:09:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Series III "Green Bible"

On Fri, 18 May 2001 [email-masked] wrote:

:Hi all,
:
:Since I am new to series III, I don't have a "Green Bible", even though I have the ser IIA workshop manuals.
:
:Today I saw on Amazon a "Land Rover Ser3 repair manual ill -Year- 1991 manual" (approx 300pps part#AKM3648 ISBN - 185520108) for $37.50 plus $6.95 S&H
:
:This price seems awfully cheap for a complete workshop manual.
:
:Is the Series III workshop manual a 2 parter like the IIA manual?

No. It's one piece.  It's a nice manual, but I don't think it's as good as
the II manual.  Much of the two vehicles is the same.  There's the silly
plastic dash, the all-syncro tranny, and as far as I can remember, that's
about it.  Unless I was planning on rebuilding a SIII box, I don't think I'd
buy a SIII shop manual, since I've got a SII one.

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:18:42 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: it's alive!!

After fighting with the engine for 2 evenings trying to get it in, and 
fighting with the starter(because I was sure it bolted in with fine 
thread bolts), I have a complete running rover again. YAY!!!! The timing 
was right on even though I just eyeballed it when I put it together. I 
now have 9.25:1 compression, so hopefully the power difference should be
fairly noticeable. Unfortunately it's too late to take it out now, but
tomorrow........ I just need to wash the engine compartment since it 
won't be getting any oil on it for a long time. 
- -- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Fri, 18 May 01 22:34:59 -0700
From: TeriAnn Wakeman <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Series III "Green Bible"

>Today I saw on Amazon a "Land Rover Ser3 repair manual ill -Year- 1991 
>manual" (approx 300pps part#AKM3648 ISBN - 185520108) for $37.50 plus 
>$6.95 S&H 

That is a good price.  List is $44.99 + shipping

>Is the Series III workshop manual a 2 parter like the IIA manual? 

Single volume.

TeriAnn Wakeman               Marigold Ltd.
Santa Cruz, California        Web design, site updating, testing
[email-masked]      search engine optimization, graphics
                              and more

http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html

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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:10:27 -0400
From: "Bryan C. Andregg" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Swag

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> "The Becketts" <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> >SWAG  - the two main meanings are: (1) the booty carried off by burglars=
 or
> >(2) in Australia, a bedroll one carries (hence swagman - equiv of US hob=
o or
> >tramp).   I have a swag when I go camping.
>=20
> Agreed, but in engineering and other circles, it means "scientific
> wild-assed guess"....

In computing industries it means the free shite that you get from your vend=
ors
(be it brought to you, acquired directly, picked up from a trade show, etc.=
).
- --=20
  Bryan C. Andregg           Smoke Jumper           "As Slow as Possible,
    <[email-masked]>      Red Hat, Inc.           As Fast as Necessary=
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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:13:02 -0700
From: "Lonn & Rhonda" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Advice from UK , Norsk listers (and any travellers)

Bryan, don't think for a minute that your wife doesn't know what you
have planned...,   "Oh gee honey, I can't sell it so quickly without
taking a big loss, so we might as well import it to the States and
sell it at a big profit".  Just keep telling her how good she looks
behind the wheel of a 1976 110SW while you are in Sweden or Norway or
wherever it is that people tissy...

Later dude,
Lonn

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Hoult" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: LRO: Advice from UK , Norsk listers (and any travellers)

> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Ian Stuart wrote:
>
> > Look at :
> > >http://www.landroverenthusiastclassifie>ds.com/
>
> Which would be easier to sell at the end of the trip, an early 110
sw in the 7000 GBP range, or a late model 110 csw 15000 GBP range?
>
> Bryan
> 62 88
> 70 109 "Genie"
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________
> PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart.
> http://www.peoplepc.com
>

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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:31:29 -0400
From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

  Wow Jeff, what a great adventure with a unique truck!  I just got to read
all this as I've been out on the road for work.  Is Gerald going to be in
Ottawa for the BP?  I'd love to see the Vamp.  I'm hoping to join the 101
folks here in the US soon.  Maybe by the end of this year, maybe next year.
The 88 is for sale to finish paying off the RR.  Then I'll get some $$
together for a 101 purchase.  Damn the gas prices, I want 8 more cylinders
of Buick to feed ;)

Scott C. Wickham Jr.
Pgh. Pa.
'72 88" (secretly disguised as a IIa)
'84 Range Rover
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Zebra Club Member #2
Birmabright Brotherhood member
http://drive.to/zebraclub

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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:49:29 -0400
From: Gerald <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

Scott,

The Vampire and I will be at the OVLR BP.

On Sat, 19 May 2001 17:31:29 -0400, you wrote:

>  Wow Jeff, what a great adventure with a unique truck!  I just got to read
>all this as I've been out on the road for work.  Is Gerald going to be in
>Ottawa for the BP?  I'd love to see the Vamp.  I'm hoping to join the 101
. . . .

>Scott C. Wickham Jr.

- --
Gerald
[email-masked]

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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:54:15 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

"Scott Wickham Jr." wrote:

> , I want 8 more cylinders
> of Buick to feed ;)
> 
> Scott C. Wickham Jr.

Be careful it doesn't handle quite like your Dad's Buick did.
John and Muddy

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:38:44 -0000
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

>From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
>together for a 101 purchase.  Damn the gas prices, I want 8 more cylinders
>of Buick to feed ;)

As I said to somebody while watching Eric-AB#231-Riston's 4.6 RR last week 
at the Moose Trophy, "I don't care how much gas they use. A V8 is worth it 
just for the sound."

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
- --author unknown

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:41:50 -0000
From: "N Forbes" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

>...
>--
>Gerald
>[email-masked]

Gerald? Is that you? I always thought [email-masked] was a different 
Gerald. Wow, this whole time it's been you masked by yet another email 
address.

Niall Forbes
66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm

"See the happy moron,
He doesn't give a damn.
I wish I were a moron.
My God! Perhaps I am!"
- --author unknown

_________________________________________________________________________
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Date: 19 May 2001 18:54:10 -0700
From: Bryan Hoult <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Advice from UK , Norsk listers (and any travellers)

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!

I figure if she doesn't say no, she means yes.  (that sounds bad, doesn't it)

Actually, my devious plan is to get a Diesel 110 and leave it at the cabin.  My contacts there, however, say that's basicly not done.  Not by mere mortals anyway, on account of the expense.

Bryan

62 88
70 109 "Genie"

On Sat, 19 May 2001, "Lonn & Rhonda" wrote:

> 
> Bryan, don't think for a minute that your wife doesn't know what you
> have planned...,   "Oh gee honey, I can't sell it so quickly without
> taking a big loss, so we might as well import it to the States and
> sell it at a big profit".  Just keep telling her how good she looks
> behind the wheel of a 1976 110SW while you are in Sweden or Norway or
> wherever it is that people tissy...
> 
> Later dude,
> Lonn
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Hoult" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: LRO: Advice from UK , Norsk listers (and any travellers)
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Ian Stuart wrote:
> >
> > > Look at :
> > > >http://www.landroverenthusiastclassifie>ds.com/
> >
> > Which would be easier to sell at the end of the trip, an early 110
> sw in the 7000 GBP range, or a late model 110 csw 15000 GBP range?
> >
> > Bryan
> > 62 88
> > 70 109 "Genie"
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________
> > PeoplePC:  It's for people. And it's just smart.
> > http://www.peoplepc.com
> >

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http://www.peoplepc.com 

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:29:34 -0600
From: "The Stockdales" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Solex and Rustoleum

The Red Dinosaur is painted Rusto-Regal Red, and it is a very close match to
Poppy Red.  I sprayed everything but the face of the bulkhead behind the
seats and the color is dead on.  It does fade nicely after about 5 years.
See http://home.mho.net/mstockdale/index.html

RE: Solex's.  I rebuilt one carb from what I had here and tried it out
today.  I had trouble getting it to idle, and it back-fired when letting off
of the gas.  The Weber is back on.  What I found was that there are two
variations to the solex.  One has the economy circuit and the other is
blanked.  There are only 4 gaskets in the solex.  One under the top cover,
one at the accelerator pump, one between the throttle section and the float
chamber, and one very little one under the accelerator pump nozzle block.

So some day when I find time I guess I'll have another look at the Solex.
Until then the weber is just to dam easy to deal with.

Hurricane Mitch and the Red Dinosaur.

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:11:30 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: LRO: Rubber snorkle parts

While I was at the Moose Trophy Rally I had a chance to look at a very well 
made "home made" snorkel. It was very professional and just damn good 
looking. Unfortunately I have no idea who I was talking to.
I do remember it had an air filter from a Disco mounted on the roof rack and 
a Mercedes diesel engine.

I do remember the web site as www.airflo.com and they have heavy duty rubber 
elbows at different angels and diameters. Worth looking at for snorkel parts. 

Bill Fishel

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:24:06 -0600
From: "Jim Hall" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: land-rover night on tv

I saw a show on Bush Gardens on the Travel channel that shows an 
animation of their new ride that they are building. It features Defender
147's. Also, on The Learning Channel, The Best of the World's Worst
Drivers has quite a few rover shots, and I think possibly a Series even.
I thought I saw it in the previews, but am currently watching the show
and haven't seen it yet.
- -- 
Jim Hall
1966 88" Elephant Chaser
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo
"You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling 
with Jim." Mitch Stockdale

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:44:29 -1000
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Defender 110 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=589464331

I thought this one was kinda funny.  Supossedly its a 2000 D-110 that has
had all new power brakes, axles rebuilts, every nut and bolt replaced, new
frame.
Sounds like a lot of work on a vehicle that is only a year old.

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 02:07:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Defender 110 on ebay

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Hope Peter wrote:

:
:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=589464331
:
:I thought this one was kinda funny.  Supossedly its a 2000 D-110 that has
:had all new power brakes, axles rebuilts, every nut and bolt replaced, new
:frame.
:Sounds like a lot of work on a vehicle that is only a year old.

Repaired wreck?  Why in the world would you paint the roof BLACK?

- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:24:17 -0400
From: "Larry Smith" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Defender 110 on ebay

How do you spell "kit car".  Looks like someone got the bits in and put one
together.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Hope Peter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: 20 May, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: LRO: Defender 110 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=589464331
>
> I thought this one was kinda funny.  Supossedly its a 2000 D-110 that has
> had all new power brakes, axles rebuilts, every nut and bolt replaced, new
> frame.
> Sounds like a lot of work on a vehicle that is only a year old.
>

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:31:06 -0400
From: Erik Barr <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Rubber snorkle parts

Hi Bill,
It was Simon Byers truck that had the snorkle on the roof rack. Email me
off list and I will set you up with his email. Many of the pieces are
rover parts like the filter housing and the snorkle end.
Erik

[email-masked] wrote:
> 
> While I was at the Moose Trophy Rally I had a chance to look at a very well
> made "home made" snorkel. It was very professional and just damn good
> looking. Unfortunately I have no idea who I was talking to.
> I do remember it had an air filter from a Disco mounted on the roof rack and
> a Mercedes diesel engine.
> 
> I do remember the web site as www.airflo.com and they have heavy duty rubber
> elbows at different angels and diameters. Worth looking at for snorkel parts.
> 
> Bill Fishel

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:05:39 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Defender 110 on ebay

In a message dated 5/21/2001 6:25:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

<< How do you spell "kit car".  Looks like someone got the bits in and put one
 together. >>

This would explain why the US required roll cage is absent on this 
vehicle--not sure it would be legal in MD,  aka "the Communist State"

Nate

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 06:29:40 -0500
From: "Garrick Olsen" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Seal in Timing Cover

I am down to carving out the seal in the timing cover.  It seals around the 
front crankshaft.

1.  Is there anyway other than picking it out with a screwdriver?    Solvent 
(Dot 3?) or Fire?

2.  Any one else not find a timing chain tensioner pad on replacing the 
timing chain?  There just wasn't one there.  Was this SPOT or Sollihul?

- -Rik
Getting it together
1960 SER II SWB SW
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:31:15 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Defender 110 on ebay

Re: Kit car:

Y'know, personally I would be most reticent to buy a car like that, as
you're really at the mercy of the wrench monkey who assembled it.....

Think of it as a giant SPOT with tyres....8*)

                         ajr

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:42:52 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
Subject: Re: LRO: Seal in Timing Cover

I have seen the pad fall off its metal backing before. It gets ground up
and falls to the bottom of the oil pan.
John and Muddy 

Garrick Olsen wrote:
> 
> I am down to carving out the seal in the timing cover.  It seals around the
> front crankshaft.
> 
> 1.  Is there anyway other than picking it out with a screwdriver?    Solvent
> (Dot 3?) or Fire?
> 
> 2.  Any one else not find a timing chain tensioner pad on replacing the
> timing chain?  There just wasn't one there.  Was this SPOT or Sollihul?
> 
> -Rik
> Getting it together
> 1960 SER II SWB SW
> _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:43:54 -0300
From: [email-masked] (John Cranfield)
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Defender 110 on ebay

I found it interesting that there are no interior pics!!!
John and Muddy

Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
> 
> Re: Kit car:
> 
> Y'know, personally I would be most reticent to buy a car like that, as
> you're really at the mercy of the wrench monkey who assembled it.....
> 
> Think of it as a giant SPOT with tyres....8*)
> 
>                          ajr

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 07:51:51 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Seal in Timing Cover

1. Seal:

Just pull it out - it has metal bits in it that won't do much with a
solvent. Definitely do yourself a favor and replace the seal mudshield
cover rivets with tapped-in screws - when the seal goes you'll thank
yourself.

2. No pad? Check the oil pan - it's likely down there because of backed-off
fittings. This is a very bad thing...

                         ajr

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:53:47 +0200
From: Paul Oxley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Defender 110 on ebay

Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote:
 
> Y'know, personally I would be most reticent to buy a car like that, as
> you're really at the mercy of the wrench monkey who assembled it.....

Hmm, as opposed to the minimum wage, highly motivated British Leyland
wrench monkey that assembled them in the factory. We all KNOW the
quality of work THEY turned out ;-{)}

Regards

Paul Oxley
AfricanAdrenalin.com

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:17:30 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Gasket between clutch and brake reservoir

Most of the reservoirs I've had apart actually used aluminum washers
between the parts  - no rubber at all.

If you can't get soft aluminum then use lead - that can be rolled and
punched easily. I have, and it works.

                         ajr

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:26:22 -0400
From: Matt Peckham <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Uh oh, Land Rover has some competition next year....

72K?  is that all?  that's a whole lot cheaper than the 135 that that
company gwagon.com sells them for.

Matt

- -----Original Message-----
From: David Scheidt [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:39 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Uh oh, Land Rover has some competition next year....

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Matt Peckham wrote:

:of course it's a bit pricy.

No.  It's fucking expensive.  72K for a G-Wagon?  It doesn't even come with
4-channel ABS.  Or a trailer hitch. or an oil pressure gauge.  Sheesh.

David
- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:27:36 -0500
From: "Brian F. Waltman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Transmission Removal

Hello All,

I have finally decided (with the help of my wife) that the puddle that forms
under the tranmission on the garage floor is too much.  As a result, I am
planning on pulling the tranny and replacing all the seals, etc. to make it
as oil tight as possible.  My question concerns removal of the tranny with a
frame that has the bolted on cross member. (Marsland Galvanized Frame)  I
understand that with this bolted on cross member feature, it is possible to
drop the tranny out the bottom instead of taking out the seat box and
removing from the top.  Can someone tell me the steps to go through to
remove the tranny this way?  Is it easier just to do it the way the green
bible says to do it?

Any thoughts in a positive direction one way or the other would be
appreciated.

Brian
Hoping to have a rather productive Memorial Day weekend.

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:37:37 -1000
From: "phope" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

Just received this info from the sller
Pete

> This 110 is absolutely street legal.  Title is in hand and reads
> "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110"  "2001".  The truck is as new.  We built
it
> from the ground up using all new or in some cases new rebuild Land Rover
> parts.  We have additional vehicles for sale.  Please refer to the link
> http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example for
> sale.  This is NOT as salvage title.  This is a professionally built Land
> Rover, constructed to exacting standards and in many areas exceeds the
> original.
>
> We have invested considerable money and time to legitimately bring in our
> components and register this vehicle.  This project has been 3 years in
the
> making, passing all DOT, EPA and Customs criteria.
>
> Please call 435-445-3333 for further information and pricing options.
>

>
> Hi I was wondering what the reserve price was on the 110?
> Also, why does it have a new fame and rebuilt axles?
> How many miles on it?

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:57:08 -0400
From: "Matthew Wilson" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: RE: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

Nothing like answering your questions, right?

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On
Behalf Of phope
Sent: 21 May, 2001 0:38 
To: Lro
Subject: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

Just received this info from the sller
Pete

> This 110 is absolutely street legal.  Title is in hand and reads
> "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110"  "2001".  The truck is as new.  We built
it
> from the ground up using all new or in some cases new rebuild Land Rover
> parts.  We have additional vehicles for sale.  Please refer to the link
> http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example for
> sale.  This is NOT as salvage title.  This is a professionally built Land
> Rover, constructed to exacting standards and in many areas exceeds the
> original.
>
> We have invested considerable money and time to legitimately bring in our
> components and register this vehicle.  This project has been 3 years in
the
> making, passing all DOT, EPA and Customs criteria.
>
> Please call 435-445-3333 for further information and pricing options.
>

>
> Hi I was wondering what the reserve price was on the 110?
> Also, why does it have a new fame and rebuilt axles?
> How many miles on it?

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:14:43 EDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

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In a message dated 5/21/01 12:46:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email-masked] writes:

> > This 110 is absolutely street legal.  Title is in hand and reads
> > "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110"  "2001".  The truck is as new.  We built
> it
> > from the ground up using all new or in some cases new rebuild Land Rover
> > parts.  We have additional vehicles for sale.  Please refer to the link
> > http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example for
> > sale.  This is NOT as salvage title.  This is a professionally built Land
> > Rover, constructed to exacting standards and in many areas exceeds the
> > original.
> >
> > We have invested considerable money and time to legitimately bring in our
> > components and register this vehicle.  This project has been 3 years in
> the
> >

How can it pass the DOT crash and rollover standards without a rollcage?  
Solihull couldn't do it, do these guys have a magic aluminium alloy?

Nate

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/21/01 12:46:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
<BR>[email-masked] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; This 110 is absolutely street legal. &nbsp;Title is in hand and reads
<BR>&gt; "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110" &nbsp;"2001". &nbsp;The truck is as new. &nbsp;We built
<BR>it
<BR>&gt; from the ground up using all new or in some cases new rebuild Land Rover
<BR>&gt; parts. &nbsp;We have additional vehicles for sale. &nbsp;Please refer to the link
<BR>&gt; http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example for
<BR>&gt; sale. &nbsp;This is NOT as salvage title. &nbsp;This is a professionally built Land
<BR>&gt; Rover, constructed to exacting standards and in many areas exceeds the
<BR>&gt; original.
<BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; We have invested considerable money and time to legitimately bring in our
<BR>&gt; components and register this vehicle. &nbsp;This project has been 3 years in
<BR>the
<BR>&gt; making, passing all DOT, EPA and Customs criteria</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>How can it pass the DOT crash and rollover standards without a rollcage? &nbsp;
<BR>Solihull couldn't do it, do these guys have a magic aluminium alloy?
<BR>
<BR>Nate</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:48:09 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

Brian, where is it leaking from?

If it's just the output seals you really don't need to pull the tranny -
they can be replaced easily with the gearbox in-situ. Find the leaks, then
decide if it needs to come out!

Secondly, if your Marsland is like all the others i've seen it was likely
galvanized with the crossmember in place. Good luck getting it
out....<grin>. Personally, i likel taking the tranny up and out the top -
it's a lot easier to do (and can be done standing up) than the bottom-drop
method for those not lift equipped.

Follow the Green Bible and you won't go wrong.

                    ajr

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:57:22 -0500
From: "Brian F. Waltman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Transmission Removal

Thanks Alan for the advice.  The leak is coming from inside the bell
housing.  The cover that holds the clutch release mechanism and throw out
bearing it the area with a leak.  Some of the bolts that attach this peice
to the bell housing were stripped when I put it back together the first
time, and they appearantly do not create a good enough seal on the gasket.
When the oil gets good and warm, it flows like a river out the drain hole of
the bell housing.  THis is the main concern.  Another leak is on the pan
that is bolted on underneath the back of the tranny.  I think I just need to
replace the gasket and that should do the trick.  Any suggestions on how to
get the leak in the bell housing/clutch housing to seal?

Brian

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On
Behalf Of Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:48 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: LRO: Transmission Removal

Brian, where is it leaking from?

If it's just the output seals you really don't need to pull the tranny -
they can be replaced easily with the gearbox in-situ. Find the leaks, then
decide if it needs to come out!

Secondly, if your Marsland is like all the others i've seen it was likely
galvanized with the crossmember in place. Good luck getting it
out....<grin>. Personally, i likel taking the tranny up and out the top -
it's a lot easier to do (and can be done standing up) than the bottom-drop
method for those not lift equipped.

Follow the Green Bible and you won't go wrong.

                    ajr

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Date: 21 May 2001 11:02:01 -0700
From: Bryan Hoult <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

On Mon, 21 May 2001, [email-masked] wrote:

> <BR>How can it pass the DOT crash and rollover standards without a rollcage? &nbsp;
> <BR>Solihull couldn't do it, do these guys have a magic aluminium alloy?

The Ebay add lists a custom internal cage.  I don't know if that qualifies it for DOT or not.

Bryan
62 88
70 109 "Genie"

________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:22:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

On Sun, 20 May 2001, phope wrote:

:
:Just received this info from the sller
:Pete
:
:
:> This 110 is absolutely street legal.  Title is in hand and reads
:> "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110"  "2001".  The truck is as new.  We built
:it
:> from the ground up using all new or in some cases new rebuild Land Rover
:> parts.  We have additional vehicles for sale.  Please refer to the link
:> http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example for
:> sale.  This is NOT as salvage title.  This is a professionally built Land

Reconstructed have some magic meaning that isn't equal to salvage that I'm
not aware of?  Or have they titled it in state that doesn't track these
things?  I don't think I'd trust them with the money to buy me coffee, let
alone a rover.

David
- -- 
[email-masked]
Bipedalism is only a fad.

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:26:17 -0400
From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Transmission Removal

ACK!

Nasty place for a leak.

Were I you, I'd get the verdammt thing apart on a bench and deal with the
thread issues first and foremost. Helicoils applied here would definitely
do the trick - and that may in and of itself solve the problem. Of course,
a good coat of Hylomar with the gasket on the mating surfaces wouldn't hurt
things either!

The bottom of the transfer case is the same thing - just needs to have the
surfaces scraped and the gasket replaced.

One thing you'l likely need to do is straighten the cover over the bottom
of the transfer case - some gorilla likely overtightened the bolts and bent
the mating surfaces. A bit of hammer work on a flat metal bar likely
wouldn't go amiss here - get the mating surface as flat as possible
otherwise all the paper gaskets in the world wouldn't seal here.

Other than that, just common sense and a lot of Hylomar is likely your best
recourse...<grin>

Don't forget to make yourself a set of guide pins to put the tranny back in
on - it makes life a lot easier.

                         Alan

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:00:38 -0400
From: Easton Trevor A <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: EBay 110 fllow up-- Item #589464331

 Strangely the 1993 LR on the web site reads identically to the 2001 on
EBay. Sure sounds like a salvage rebuild to me.
Atempts to view the "other" LR resulted in a "Your forbidden" message.
Strange way to do business.

:
  Title is in hand and reads
:> "Reconstructed" "Land Rover 110"  "2001".  The truck is as new.  We
built
:it

:> http://www.thedial.com/isaac/rover01/new.htm to see another example
for
:> sale.  This is NOT as salvage title.  T

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:57:00 -0700
From: SJH <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: koenig shifter fork photo

	Hello everyone.  I'm in the process of resurrecting a trashed Koenig   
crank drive winch, and just came from the machine shop where I'm having   
some bearings removed and pressed in and having a cannibalized clutch   
assy. shaft shortened to work in my winch case.  The dog clutch shifter   
fork at the bottom of the chain drive case on my winch is broken.  The   
dog clutch engages and disengages the winch chain drive from the input   
shaft driven by the engine.  When I took apart the chain drive case on   
this winch, the shifter shaft was there, but the broken off stubs of the   
fork were not.

	The machinist would like to have a picture, or better, a diagram of this   
fork.  I have the Koenig exploded parts diagram.  I need more detail.  At   
$60 and a time and materials "quote" because of the "imagineering"   
 involved, I'd like to give the machinist as much info as I can gather.   
 Please contact me directly if you can help, as I'm in digest mode, and   
the digest hasn't arrived for the last few days.

	Of course, if you happen to have one of these forks just laying around,   
please let me know.

And if anyone needs part numbers for all the seals and brgs in a koenig   
winch, let me know.  I now have them (partly thanks to Bruce Fowler).  I   
also have some spare parts lying around, as a result of having to buy a   
donor winch.... but that's another story altogether.

Simon Harding

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:04:19 -0400
From: Keith Tanner <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: Transmission Removal

>Don't forget to make yourself a set of guide pins to put the tranny back in
>on - it makes life a lot easier.

Amen to that.

Having just completed a clutch job (well, two of them but I don't think the 
Miata really applies here), I can answer the original question :)  If you 
have a removeable crossmember, you'll be able to pull the tranny without 
removing the seat box. If possible, however, I'd try to avoid the experience.

After the clutch job on my own truck, it's like a new vehicle. I hadn't 
realized it was slipping THAT badly...

Keith Tanner

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:37:51 -0400
From: "Scott Wickham Jr." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: LRO: RE: Vampire: Mission Declassified

The Vampire and I will be at the OVLR BP.

  Great!  I can't wait to see it.  I want to film as much of all the 101's
as I can.  I'd like to see how the pneumatic mast works.  In between running
the trails, drinking, talking with all the friends I only see at the
rally's, drinking, winching, drinking...

   I'm still torn between which LR to take.  I've got another xcase for
Sherman that will be in by the weekend so if that works out I might take
him.  If not, Lucy will be making the trip north (with her new/rebuilt
starter ;) ) and winching her way through the muck.  Winch Lucy, WINCH!
Heaaah pachyderm!  Heaaaah!  Onward to the beer trailer where refreshment
awaits!  Quick before John Hong gets to it!

  Ok, I'm a little excited about the upcoming rally.  That's why I'll be
showing up Wednesday if at all possible.  See you all there.

Scott C. Wickham Jr.
Pgh. Pa.
'72 88" (secretly disguised as a IIa)
'84 Range Rover
Fort Pitt Land Rover Group
Zebra Club Member #2
Birmabright Brotherhood member
http://drive.to/zebraclub

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:52:10 -0800
From: "Bruce D. Fowler" <[email-masked]>
Subject: LRO: Re: Rubber snorkle parts

- -----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]

While I was at the Moose Trophy Rally I had a chance to look at a very well
made "home made" snorkel. It was very professional and just damn good
looking. Unfortunately I have no idea who I was talking to.
I do remember it had an air filter from a Disco mounted on the roof rack and
a Mercedes diesel engine.

Bill,

You were talking to Andreas Dutkewych.
Sorry I don't have an e-mail address for him :-(
Try checking with the MORE group, his address might be posted there.
www3.ns.sympatico.ca/design.fort/more

Bruce F.

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