LRO: Re: Re: Sagging springs, why.

From: Frank Elson (frankelson@felson.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Apr 28 2001 - 17:26:42 EDT

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    totally correct Marin.
     Extract from Land Rover 'secret' build book: 'Tolerances in the vehicle
    will be plus or minus one inch(ish)'
    Best Cheers

    Frank
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Faure, Marin <Marin.Faure@PSS.Boeing.com>
    To: 'Land Rover Mail Group' <LRO@Works.Team.Net>
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    Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:30 PM
    Subject: LRO: Re: Sagging springs, why.

    > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:23:33 -1000
    > From: "Peter Ogilvie" <konacoffee2@hotmail.com>
    > Subject: LRO: Re: Sagging springs, why.
    >
    > >How come series rovers always sag, usually to the right side?? Don't give
    me
    > any of the handed spring crap as it hasn't been a factor for ages. If
    jeep
    > suppliers can provide springs that sit level, why can't the Rover crowd
    make
    > stock multi leaf springs do the same.
    >
    > Why should they? There seems to be an obsession among a lot of Series
    owners about the
    > fact their vehicles don't sit level. The fact is they never did and never
    will, at least
    > not with the stock springs and bushings. I think this is largely due to
    the nature of the
    > bushings, which can resist a spring's tendency to return to its "normal"
    > arch. Also, as you may have gathered if you have worked on or changed a
    Land
    > Rover's springs, the things are about as crudely and inconsistently made
    as it's
    > possible to be without resorting to using wood as a component. Rover
    Parts uses
    > a lot of different suppliers for things like springs, and I suspect the
    specs are REALLY
    > sloppy in terms of defining the metal and other characteristics. So I'm
    willing to bet that
    > the actual spring rates among even a brand new set of springs are all over
    the map. Any
    > consistency will be totally by accident. The company seemed to know this,
    as the
    > tolerances for body corner height off the floor given in the shop manual
    are pretty wide.
    >
    > My own SIII leans with
    > no consistency whatsoever, and his has done so from the day it left the
    factory, or at
    > least the day I took delivery in 1973. It all depends on who or what was
    in it last, the direction of
    > the last corner it went around, and so on. Sometimes it leans a bit to
    the left. Sometimes
    > it leans a bit to the right. Sometimes it doesn't lean at all. If you
    don't like the way it's sitting,
    > reach up after you get out and push up or pull down on the rain gutter on
    your side of the vehicle
    > until it's sitting the way you like it. It will stay that way until you
    get back in it again. It's the
    > nature of the beast, and short of going to completely different springs
    and bushings, the thing's
    > gonna lean one way or the other most of the time.
    >
    > But who's to say your Land Rover's leaning?
    > Maybe it's your part of the planet that's off kilter. Don't overlook that
    possibility....
    >
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