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1 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 28 | Re: Customs parts vehicle |
2 | Mark Perry [rxq281@freen | 42 | Such a deal |
3 | hugh@nezsdc.fujitsu.co.n | 22 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
4 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 30 | RE: Valve Job Blues |
5 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 25 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
6 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 40 | [not specified] |
7 | jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell) | 7 | Rover Sighting |
8 | "Matthew Holding (AUS)" | 73 | Down Under Clubs |
9 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 19 | Military LR part wanted |
10 | cs@crl.com (Michael Carr | 37 | Re[2]: DAP experiences |
11 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 22 | Crash test dummies |
12 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 29 | Pink Panther ops & others |
13 | DatIO@aol.com | 12 | Magazines |
14 | Eric Russell [erussell@c | 30 | Re: Magazines |
15 | mtalbot@InterServ.Com (M | 38 | Re: Diamond in the bushes (109) |
16 | dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu | 39 | Re: Isuzu Diesels in U.S. |
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 01:12:11 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: Re: Customs parts vehicle Mark Talbot <mtalbot@InterServ.Com> writes: >He wants to know if he takes the engine and g'box out, removes the glass and the odd door, removes the rusted x-member, then does this then mean its a parts vehicle. In previous conversation with Customs they would like you to remove the engine only, and in the same breath they will tell you that you can bring the engine in too if you ship it seperately. That is, no single shipment is to have a complete vehicle. In reading the advisory pamphlets and some of the regulations of Customs, EPA, DOT, and California State, you can bring the entire working vehicle in if you don't ever expect to register it for on-road use in any state. When you declare this option on the import form you are effectively barred from registering the vehicle unless you take it out and bring it back as a new import application later. Ask US Customs for their pamphlet and list of exceptions. Michael Carradine, Architect <cs@crl.com> Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 .plan available _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 04:21:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Perry <rxq281@freenet.mb.ca> Subject: Such a deal 1. Mark Talbot agonizes over a 109 for $750? Sure it'll need a couple of thou put into it ( a few thou in Canada) but it's got lots of features for that money. New rear X-members are cheap (it's paying the chassis shop that costs $$, as I'm finding out, even as we e-mail, but does my 88 ever look nice all perked up on its new springs) I'd jump on that 109 if I had the $$. 2. A band-aid for overdrive noise (and noise at speed): those yellow foam E.A.R. industrial hearing protectors. Takes the edge off the screaming whine. Cheap. 3. Unusal TV sighting. Investigative Reports on A&E did a show on Ted Kennedy and the Chappaquidick tragedy in 1969. A series of stills were shown of the recovery of the fateful auto from the water. Recovery vehicle was a 109 SW, possibly local fire department (it was red and has some sort of signage on the door.) Could it still be around? 4. As a Western Canadian, discussion of heated winshield - er, windscreens - interests. I've wondered why such aren't more common, but am reminded of being told by a friend that early attempts at Austin Mini etc. rear window defoggers with wire embedded in glass led to stress cracking from temperature extremes (winter daytime temps of -20-30C normal in Winterpeg.) Does that sound reasonable, or was he fullovit? I also once read that in Siberia, double-pane windscreens are used: ever been tried on L-Rs? We also use clear plastic stick-on frost shields here, and I had one on the back window last winter, but they won't work on the side windows if I want to slide them open, which is academic as they freeze shut anyhow. The Kodiak blown defrosters worked just fine this winter past anyhow, even on the coldest nights, keeping both windscreens and door windows clear. (But it's a dry cold.) Cheers Mark Perry Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 1966 Ser.IIA 88 Petrol Hardtop "Yes, I can see quite well over the spare tire." ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: hugh@nezsdc.fujitsu.co.nz Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 22:24:59 +1200 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest >The reason I was asking was not out of a desire to save money by substitutuing >junk, but to upgrade from the original type of perishable rubber line. Fair enough. I just brought up an old in from the garage to measure it. The whole thing is 40cm long, including the ends, which are 3/8" diameter. One end is 15/16" long, the other 1/2". I don't know if the thread is UNF, BSF, or what, but I count 24 TPI. Now, your trouble might be that the tips of each end are slightly different from each other, the short (wheel) end is flat and the longer end is slighty pointed. I guess it's important for them to mate correctly in the fittings and cylinders. Good luck. Hugh ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:58:17 GMT -0600 Subject: RE: Valve Job Blues > As I understand it no standard 2.25 litre head will run unleaded. Most, if > not all, 2.5 litre heads will run unleaded because they have hardened valve > seats fitted from new. Snip A 2.25 head will indeed run unleaded. The only problem is that the valves will wear more quickly and recess into the head. The guides perhaps will wear a little more quickly also. But in fact the level of lead towards the end of lead availability in gas was minute. If you don't have a car designed to run on lead or so modified, don't worry about it. It's not worth the cost to make the modifications just for that. If you already are doing a valve job, then by all means make the conversion then. But even if you don't, I doubt that you would even notice it over the life of your car. Tom Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:33:13 GMT -0600 Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Snip > (wheel) end is flat and the longer end is slighty pointed. I guess > it's important for them to mate correctly in the fittings and > cylinders. Hugh, It is *absolutely* important! The pointed end fits a female fitting with a double flare, as opposed to the regualar bubble flare, and the wheel cyl. end uses a copper sealing ring (which I belive is the same size as the tappet guide retaining screw sealing washer). Otherwise you will end up with leaking brakes. Tom Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Water Rovers and Pink Panthers From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 10:48:14 -0500 The SAS Pink Panther thread has re appeared. So i felt it was appropriate for all of you to know there is a good look at one of these in detail in Wheels And Tracks issue number 9. It gives a history and good look at all the components that make up this unique vehicle. In issue number 2 they have a feature on amphibious Land Rovers aswell. In the UK back issues are available through After The Battle at Church House Church Street London E15 3JA phone 0815348833 fax 0815557567 In US Bill Dean Books Ltd PO Box 69 Whitestone NY 11357 in Canada Vanwell publishingLtd 1 Northrup Cres St Catherines Ont L2M 6P5 In NZ South Pacific Books Imports Ltd 6 King St Grey Lynn Auckland 2 PO Box 68097 Newton Auckland In OZ Technical Books and Magazine Company Pty Ltd 289-299 Swanston Street Melbourne, Victoria 3000 In NL Quo Vadis, Postbus 3121, 3760 DC Soest, Netherlands bTW The water Rover issue has a colour pic of a 101 and powered trailer on back cover. The Pink Panther issue has a clour pic of the same on the back cover and some info on the JRA 110 HD 6 X 6 inside. Rgds Robin Craig PS perhaps someone could post this to the FAQ? -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 10:01:11 -0700 From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell) Subject: Rover Sighting Jet Li's newest Hong Kong action film "High Risk" features an opening sequence with several rovers, including a prominent military lightweight. ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 30 Jul 95 13:33:25 EDT From: "Matthew Holding (AUS)" <100036.2103@compuserve.com> Subject: Down Under Clubs Hello all you drivers of quality British engineering. Just a note from >down-under< about clubs and membership. Tiffany seems to have stirred up a can of worms by suggesting that you all need to join an Australian club. Probably not necessary unless you plan to move over here. Why not - there's more LRs to choose from ! Seriously though, Tiffany's club did arise mainly because a fairly social style "Land Rover Club" here accepted other vehicles as members interests developed over the years. This club did not want to kick out their friends just because they bought a Toycar or Mitsipussy or some other 4WD without class. Seems fair enough, but the club became more of a 4WD club and has since commendably changed its name to "Landroving Club". And the Land Rover Register, and a 48-58 S1 club, were formed to cater for specialist needs. But this is all recent local history. You do not have to own a Rover to like them, and there were Rovers before 1947! The Rover Car Club of South Australia Inc. accepts members who are simply interested in "One of Britain's Fine Cars" whether they be interested in Rover Cars, LRs, RRs, or even Rover bicycles. Being friendly folk we even let a member stay in the club when he bought a Honda - oops it did have a Rover badge <G>. We are mainly concerned with the preservation of the Rover marque and we >>insure dedication to the breed<< by boring the pants off anyone who doesn't eat, sleep and breathe Rover. Simple really :-) Most of the LRs in our club are Series 1,2,3 but the local dealers are trying hard to sell us Discos and the latest RR for only $112,000AUS. This is a club of >>true believers<< who drive their Rover P6 to work, their P3 to club events, and their LR thousands of miles to get parts for the whole collection and to show off what it can do. We are 18 this year. I guess now our cars can all drink and smoke if they like :-) DON'T JOIN OUR CLUB ! Yes we are friendly, even to >>smegging foreign rubbish<< (not my words), but really although we would like you to join (at only A$30 a year - about US$21, 20 will do) you would only really get just another magazine full of things you can't go to. If you are coming down under you will be welcomed as a guest at our meetings/events with open arms. WE DO like to foster contact between clubs for the mutual benefit of all our members. This does not mean joining each other's clubs and spending more money on "Rover", but simply by starting an exchange of magazines. This does provide benefits such as a broader information base for all clubs involved and contacts for travelling members. If you haven't already done so - JOIN YOUR LOCAL CLUB because the clubs are the ones doing the most to help preserve the marque and the parts supplies for your precious vehicle. To start the ball rolling - our snail mail address is Rover Car Club of SA Inc. PO Box 342 North Adelaide 5006 South Australia or catch me here, on Rovernet or British-Cars or fax: 61 (AUS) 8 254 8783. Would love to here from you and get more clubs in contact. *** Personal ad. *** Land Rovers are a bit too big to mail over, but I, and some club members, collect brochures/books for Rover Cars and LRs, models, sales lit. and other Solihull memorabilia. Always interested if you have anything. Also collect old cameras :-) Only get here once a week, so sorry for rambling on, cheers Matthew Holding (Secretary - Rover Car Club of South Australia) - Rover P6B 1970, P6 1970, P4 1958, P4 1951 + in family P3 1949, many P4s, P5, P5B, LR 1948,49,52. - Land Rover 1952 80" in pieces, 1955 86" soft top under running restoration. - Picture of the new Range Rover. (All I'll get for a while...) ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:37:06 GMT -0600 Subject: Military LR part wanted I have a signal flasher for my lightweight that I bought as a spare but have discovered that it is a 24v, my LR is 12v. Does anyone have a 12v that they by chance would be interested in trading? It has to be from an MoD surplus as they are different from civy flashers. Or an extra 12v flasher you would sell? Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:03:23 +0100 From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine) Subject: Re[2]: DAP experiences Michael Carradine previously wrote: I have to agree with Al somewhat in considering net-users exceeding the worst gaggle of old wo/men chattering away; and I add, willing to destroy a reputation with a keystroke. Tom Rowe <trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu> replied: Actually, that sounds like Al, but it's probably a case of needing to know him to get the sense of where he's "coming from". I actually ran up some pretty high phone bills "chattering" with him. While Spencer K C Norcross <Spenny@aol.com> of Haverhill, Mass. USA writes: Regarding DAPs reputation: I cant speak from personal experience, but I will relate the experience of a friend.... after seeing that experience I would sooner buy parts from the LR *Dealership* than risk dealing with Al & DAP Then Spencer goes on to comment about Michael Carradine's posting: if you dont like the chattering you can unsubscribe, until then you can chatter away *offline* with your good friend Al. I will also add: that is the most pompous remark i have seen posted to this mailing list to date OK, Spencer. I have no intention of becoming an apologist for Al, not that any apologies are warranted. As you can see, those who know Al as Tom and I do are not offended by a "pompous" manner and sometimes rough language. As to Al's observations, they are proving themselves correct. I'm guilty of chattering in repeating Al's comments, and you're willing to destroy DAP's fine reputation with a quaint little story that is nothing more than heresay! Michael Carradine, Architect <cs@crl.com> Ph/Fax 510-988-0900 .plan available _________________________________________________________________________ Mercedes-Benz Unimog 4x4 WWW page at: http://www.crl.com/~cs/unimog.html ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 17:44:38 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Crash test dummies Been away for a few days, so pardon me if this is old hat.... The national insurance test center is in Greene County, Virginia. They have this huge facility where they basically launch vehicles down the track (using aircraft carrier catapults) into a 70 ton steel block. The barrier is floated into place on a cushion of air so they can get all kinds of *unusual* impacts (like slicing cars in half). Maybe I should check it out for scavengable Disco/RR bits. There was some rumor going around twenty or so years ago where the British equivalent of DoT used a barrier-equipped Land-Rover to smack into *parked* cars to test them. Cheers. *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 17:44:57 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Pink Panther ops & others WRT the thread on PP conversions...one of the chaps in ROAV back in the '70's had a .30 Browning MG (albeit with the receiver cut in half and re-welded) mounted on his roll-bar with a roll of camo-netting draped across the bonnet. Let me tell you, traffic *did* get out of his way! Mark Talbot writes about importing "parts vehicles". This is a routine way of getting vehicles in...take out the engine and tranny, take off the top, etc. One bloke brought in a 101 Rapier missile tractor that way. For engines, remove the head and you can bring virtually *anything* in as "parts". Concerning British Rovers/DAP, I have *always* gotten excellent service from Bruce at BR, now DAP. Someone said they preferred "service" over "price", but they have *both* even on obscure, no-longer-supplied parts like the reverse lamp switch. Often times, TWO DAY delivery, even when I didn't ask for it. The only problems was reaching them for about a month, but they were moving lock, stock and barrel from two locations to Springfield, VT. Al decided to "retire" and Bruce bought out the business/inventory/etc. *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: DatIO@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:29:35 -0400 Subject: Magazines Could someone please give me a list of Land Rover magazines and their respective address/phone/fax. I need some LR periodical visual stimulation! Thanks- Clay Janes (no LR yet; but that Series I 107 sounds good... actively looking for a Series IIa 88. Help!) ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Russell <erussell@cln.etc.bc.ca> Subject: Re: Magazines Our Club gets a regular copy of, "Land Rover World". It's a very interesting magazine with good articles and useful advertisements. The subscription contacts are: Telephone: 081 597 7335 Fax: 081 599 5965 Address: Land Rover World Subscriptions Department Hainault Road Little Heath, Romford Essex, ENGLAND RM6 5NP Regards, Eric Russell, RoverNet@ganglion.anes.med.umich.edu erussell@cln.etc.bc.ca Grade 6 teacher at Ridgeview Elementary School, West Vancouver, B.C., Canada Secretary of The Rover Car Club of Canada On Sun, 30 Jul 1995 DatIO@aol.com wrote: > To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net > Could someone please give me a list of Land Rover magazines and their [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > Clay Janes > (no LR yet; but that Series I 107 sounds good... actively looking for a ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:09:44 PDT From: mtalbot@InterServ.Com (Mark Talbot) Subject: Re: Diamond in the bushes (109) All, I have just gone through a "walk-through" on the 109 I found last week. The vehicle is a 62 SIIA, safari station wagon, tropical roof, kodiak heater. The body is in GREAT condition, not a dent on it !!!! The doors are an incredible state after spending 4 years in a bush ! The interior panels, in the old "elephant" hide is in good condition and the seats have NO rips. The rear bench seats are all in place, the back jump seats are still hocked up. The engine was rebuilt 5 years ago by an old Rover dealer in Jaffery NH, and it started first time ! No the downsides : it needs a rear crossmember, and perhaps a set of rear springs, the brakes need to be looked at but I suspect that it just needs new seals all round and a good bleeding will sort it all out. The clutch master cylinder will need a new seal and again a good bleeding. And that's it ! It needs a good power wash underneath and then a good coat of paint, the chassis has had new outriggers, front horns, again work carried out by the Rover shop in NH. So why am I posting this, well I have decide to sell it on to someone who wants it. I'm not joking when I say that this veicle is in exceptional condition for its age and the fact that it's been lying around for 5 years. I was real lucky to have found this vehicle, and I'm faced with this choice, sell it to someone or keep it and do it up and then sell it. Oh what to do ! So for now, its up for sale. If anyone is interested then send me and e-mail or call me 603-357-3401. price is neg. Mark ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb) Subject: Re: Isuzu Diesels in U.S. Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:59:12 +0930 (CST) Mark asks about conversion kits for Isuzu Diesels to land rovers: Funny about this I've just been checking around.. The 3.9 4BD1 as fitted to the OZ 110's and Perentje/Bushrangers aparently differs from a standard 4bd1, but only in the flywheel housing which apparently can be changed. I'm awaiting a fax to confirm this and costs... There are kits available to fit the following Isuzu engines to Both the LT95 4sp (Rangie) and the older series Land-rover box (at least thats what I think he said) Engines covered include 4BB 4BC2 4BD 4BD1 4BD1T 4BE1 Kit includes adapter plate, Flywheel,spigot bearing, mounts, bolts and instructions. Cost is $1136 AUD tax included butr will be considerably cheaper for overseas purchasers.... Apparently a 4BD1 into a 4cyl rover is a very tight squeeze but is a bit better into a six.. A sugested engine for a series rover was the 2.4L CT40 (I think) kit cost ~$850 The bloke I talked to was working on a kit for the 4JB1T... As much power as the 4BD1T but smaller. I'm awaiting a fax/Snail-mail which will provide more details I hope. The manufacturer in question is Zenith Engineering, Brisbane Australia If anyone is interested let me know and I'll follow up off line... cheers -- Daryl Webb (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au) ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950731 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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