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1 | rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest. | 43 | Camel Trophy-Turkey |
2 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 27 | Re: .gif's on the RoverWEB |
3 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 15 | [not specified] |
4 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 19 | [not specified] |
5 | RICKCRIDER@aol.com | 18 | Rover VIN plates. |
6 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 24 | [not specified] |
7 | "Anthony J. Bonanno" [75 | 16 | Shocks (USA) for LR IIA 88 ? |
8 | sohearn@InterServ.Com | 38 | D90 for '95 |
9 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 18 | Re: Vent controls for IIA Rover |
10 | S|ren Vels Christensen [ | 31 | Re: Series III and unleaded fuel? |
11 | Russell Burns [burns@cis | 21 | D-90 destroys tire |
12 | gpool@pacific.pacific.ne | 140 | Snow-Run-One; Part 1 |
13 | ritter mark c [70472.113 | 9 | Locking diffs for Disco |
14 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 15 | Re: D-90 destroys tire |
15 | "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa | 28 | Re: D-90 destroys tire |
16 | "Mugele, Gerry" [Gerry.M | 14 | L-R Movie Sightings |
17 | brabyn@skivs.ski.org (Jo | 12 | Re: Locking diffs for Disco |
18 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 19 | [not specified] |
19 | "Lapa, Hank" [hlapa@Zeus | 12 | Re[2]: Retractable Belts. |
20 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 19 | Re: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 |
21 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 114 | SLROC Championship RTV |
22 | siccama@terena.nl | 23 | Springs |
23 | chrisste@clark.net (Chri | 27 | Erratic idling revisited |
24 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 21 | [not specified] |
25 | Benjamin Allan Smith [be | 31 | [not specified] |
26 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 17 | Traction Control |
27 | Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em | 26 | Re: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 |
28 | "walter c. swain (wcswai | 29 | Discovery for sale |
29 | wz@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 44 | [not specified] |
30 | Roger Sinasohn [sinasohn | 30 | Fw: Talking Frog (fwd) |
31 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 17 | Re: Misc |
32 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 19 | Re: Erratic idling revisited |
33 | LANDROVER@delphi.com | 25 | Re: Fitting an overdrive |
34 | "Jeff Young" [young@mci. | 10 | [not specified] |
35 | rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca | 16 | [not specified] |
36 | Sanna@aol.com | 11 | Re: Re[2]: Retractable Belts. |
37 | mccauley@hba.trumpet.com | 34 | Hello! and It's Stuck... |
38 | Spenny@aol.com | 32 | Re: Down East Rally - Owls Head |
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 23:26:50 MST From: rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.com ( ROY CALDWELL ) Subject: Camel Trophy-Turkey Hi People! Got back from Army leadership training and survived the field training but really know that infantry is a game for young men. Tom Collins called this Tuesday and passed on an up-date for the Trophy. Today the team flew out to the International Trials in Turkey. He expressed a great deal of confidence in the four team members and how they will do in the trials. His opinion was that any combination of the four will make a good solid US team for Central America and the Ruta Maya. Tom passed on some info about how the International is conducted. Over the three plus days of activities there are judges at all of the stations. They score each candidate and using some form of computer program produce a preformance print-out. From this book on each candidate Tom and, probably, Bill Baker make their choices for the final two. In addition Tom indicated that the two journalist are ask for their opinions. As has been mentioned some of the judges are former SAS people and others are past Camel Team members from various countries. The four that got to make the trip are: Jim Swett, Daphne Greene, Tom Davenport and Jonah Houston. The journalist are Sue Meade- free lance motor-trades writer and Erik Schlegal of the Dallas Morning News. In addition we should see some pieces in USA Today. I hope Tom will call me when they get back so I can pass on who the final team is. For those interested there is a rep from LRNA customer service that lurks on this list. So for those that have newer Rovers and have talked about likes - dislikes and things of that nature your comments are getting to the people at LRNA. That is about it for me It's good to be back on the list. Oh, the head on my 69 is rebuilt, correctly this time, and will go on just as soon as I finish helping clean up a part of the highway with the Cub Scout pack. So this boy will have a Rover back under his butt real soon. Roy - Rovers in the Rockies Going Mobile Again ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:50:40 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: .gif's on the RoverWEB > How do you access the RoverWeb page? aol does not yet have access to the World Wide Web. I believe they're working on it. Compuserve is also working on this... They're going to have PPP access via a compuserve account shortly, and they recently acquired SPRY (I think), so I expect we'll see a mosaic-like web browser built into their CIM products. For those with shell accounts on a unix box (CRL, Netcom, etc.) I *highly* recommend SlipKnot. This is a shareware program that lets you access the web graphically by working with Lynx running on your unix host. It requires Windows, and is a bit slower than a Mosaic/Slip connection, but it works great and what it does is simply incredible. It's available in the simtel archive (I got my copy at FTP.CDROM.COM (Walnut Creek CD-ROM) in the /pub/simtel/win3/(something) directory.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Land Rover for Sale From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 95 19:53:59 -0500 Britains D90 #9923 for sale, mint boxed, British Telecom yellow version. USD 25 plus shipping to you Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: NEW STAMP COMING From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 95 19:56:05 -0500 There is soon to be a release of stamps from Tristan Da Cuhna. A set of four stamps on local transport. One is a Defender 110 station wagon with winch. If you want a set or a first day cover or both let me know, no price as yet. I will cut this order of at 6pm edt Tuesday 4th april. Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 03:32:40 -0400 Subject: Rover VIN plates. I have two VI N number plates. One is for a 1970 Series llA, 88", VIN #24439966G. I used to own this Rover. I understand it now belongs to a Sheriffs Deputy or Sheriffs Dept. Employee in Knoxville Tenn. If anyone in the Knoxville area knows this guy I would like for this plate to go to it's proper owner. The other VIN plate is from a 109" llA, VIN # 26403986B. I know absolutely nothing about this Rover or the plate. It was in a box of misc rover trivia I bought at a car show. Thanks. Rick Crider <rickcrider@aol.com> '73 lll / 88" '88 Range Rover Monroe NC ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Land Rover Web page Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 22:48:55 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> I haven't noticed anyone else posting this... http://www.dealernet.com/l_rover/l_rover.html From looking at it is mostly has Disocovery information for now, but may have links to other models in the futute. Nice Disco photo. Under Discovery performance, however, is a photo of Camel Trophy Defender (nice photo, but under the wrong heading. (the same page does have 2 other Disco photos). Other stuff on Warranties and a short "the Land Rover Story" This is a must see, even just for the photos. -Benjamin Smith ---------------- Science Applications Internation Corporation Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil 1972 Land Rover Series III 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 03 Apr 95 00:19:05 EDT From: "Anthony J. Bonanno" <75034.3062@compuserve.com> Subject: Shocks (USA) for LR IIA 88 ? The heavy duty shocks that I installed 22 years ago have finally worn out. Anyone have any recommendations for an over-the-counter replacement shock here in the States?? I can always order the LR part from Rovers North, etc., but thought that there might be something else out there of comparable quality (less costly would be nice too) that I should consider. My LR is a 71 88" Series IIA. Thanks in advance! Tony Bonanno Santa Fe, NM ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: sohearn@InterServ.Com Date: Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:10:19 PDT Subject: D90 for '95 Got a chance to see the new '95 D90 finally. The standard soft top, a fastback design, looks pretty strange, sort of like the Isuzu Amigo. Like the new full soft top it is a Bestop product. The front turn signal lamps have been relocated to the lower lamp of two next to each headlight (formerly a parking lamp). It is larger in size and no longer matches its sibling above. The rear lamps are round (still three on the left, two on the right) but located as before. Will LR redesign the rear lamp guards? The rears are of the same style as the new front turn signal lamps. The front door trim panels are a little different and now include map pockets while the tailgate has a trim panel and pocket for the first time. The mechanism which limits how far the front doors open has been changed as well. The forward safari cage's rear slanted supports are now covered such that all metal is covered. Apparently the attachment method and its mounting position are different as well (the fibreglass hard top requires a mod when installed on a '94). The tires are BFG All-Terrain T/A's. In addition the stereo can accept a CD changer and sub-woofer. Some other option changes have been made as well. I expect for '96 we'll see lighted vanity mirrors ;-). - Stephen p.s. My local LR dealer, after inviting me to the new Range Rover 4.0SE private opening, has invited me to a LR sponsered (?) polo match. I don't know where I went wrong but I'm gonna try and get as much mud/dirt on my Defender as I can before I go so I can get maximum shock value. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:50:32 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Re: Vent controls for IIA Rover >>the older style bulkhead vent "openers" - the ones that you turn the knob > why would you want them, they seem the crappiest way to open the vents With the levers, you have maybe 6 or 7 positions at the most. With the knobs, you can exactly set the amount of vent opening you want. Far more precise than the levers. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 02:14:01 +0200 (METDST) From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk> Subject: Re: Series III and unleaded fuel? On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Steven Siccama wrote: > Hi Jan, > >Could it be the guy is right? Or should I have the head rebuilt with [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)] > Steven > Amsterdam Netherlands Hi FWIW: I ran Lawrence ('76 sIII) on 92oct unleaded for about 6 months without damage. Then my brother bought a '73 and ran it on unleaded also. He called the agent to ask for advise. The agent said that there is only a very little chance that damage should occur but he would not officialy reccomend unleaded fuel. If you have the guts to experiment try to fill leaded every second time. It's nice that people think about the environment. But take into consideration that lead volume is only a fraction af the volume ten or more years ago. But ofcourse if you rebuild the head (on the car) you might consider to have the engine repacked while you are at it. Then you can more or less forget about it for the next 15-20 years. Good luck sv/aurens ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com> Subject: D-90 destroys tire Date: Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:40:17 PST I was out skidding logs in my backy yard this afternoon, when I managed to destroy a tire. One of those 164r75 16 bfgoodrich MT monster mudders... So off to the tire store I did run, only to discover this tire need to be special ordered, come at a paltry price of $200.00 a each, and will take 2 weeks to order. The BF Goodrich MT's come at a tune of $160.00 and are in stock. Since I do a lot of hi-way driving, I decided to re-shoe the beast with the AT's, and save the four good MT's for a rainy day, or some good mud north of the border. Russ Burns D-90 4/5 of the tires hold air. R-Rover ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 09:03:20 -0800 From: gpool@pacific.pacific.net (Granville B. Pool) Subject: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 Sorry to have taken so long to get started on this story but this week has been very busy. I will post each installment on the Left-Coast Rover-Net and then post it the following day on lro@team.net. Many of you on lro@team.net will remember my four-part story of the first Scouting Outing, a month or so ago. Part 1, Into the Unknown, Winter Style: I tell you, this winter will be one we'll all remember. Not just because of the most gnarly weather that any of us can remember experiencing in this part of the world but also because of what we did with it. This will be remembered as the winter that brought an amazing group of hard-core Land-Rover aficionados together for some outrageous gonzo off-roading. And it will be remembered as the winter in which we began to discover the remarkable resource on our doorstep, the Mendocino National Forest. At the rate we are going, it's going to take many years to explore it all. Then we can start in on the Six Rivers National Forest and a few of the others. Ain't California great? Melanie and I took a trip to the southeast last summer. I studied the maps to check out the wild places we might want to visit. I was startled to realize that there isn't much of that sort of thing toward the right coast. Made me realize just how lucky we are to live where there is so much excellent public land near at hand. Our first scouting outing had been plagued by delays due to the bad weather and the second outing was similarly beset. We put it off a full month beyond when we had originally planned to go. Several who might have gone earlier were ruled out by the time we went because they were getting ready to go to Baja soon (Domingos Dias, Brad Blevins, and maybe others). For one reason or another, several others also fell away. At one point, it sounded like we would have 16-20 LROs on this run; about half that many made it. We did a little better this time at meeting on time and getting ourselves headed out reasonably early. But the fact remains that these get-togethers are just that. When we get together, the visiting tends to take precedence over the four-wheeling. So be it. We enjoy visiting. This time we started by having breakfast together at R&J's (dba Dottie's) Cafe in Upper Lake. Dick Hamilton and I convoyed to Upper Lake, expecting to find most LROs there already. We found Jason LaBranch's Land-Rover but not Jason. We went into the cafe and grabbed the biggest round table in the place (it later proved to be not nearly big enough). Eventually two other local LROs, Aaron Wright of Upper Lake and Bill McDow of Scotts Valley, joined us but only to send us off. Dick, too, headed back home after breakfast (no heater). Walt Swain and John Hess from Davis came along, once again doubling in Walt's Toyota pee-coupe. Jason wandered in, along with Morgan Hannaford, Bruce Bonar, Vance Chin, Jim Russell, and Gerry Mugele (with Brother Bob). The breakfast took a goodly while, as did the fueling, etc. But we had reassembled at the Ranger Station and decided on a route, all by 10:00 A.M.--a considerable improvement over last time! We had probably dawdled some, waiting to see if Ben Smith would show up. We were sure that he intended to be there but no one had heard from him. Well, we had to move on; if Ben showed up, he would have to try to find us (yeah, right). We headed up Elk Mountain Road, as before, but continued on to the intersection of M-10, the main west to east route across the southern part of the forest. By the time we got to Bear Creek Road (the first section of M-10), we were into pretty deep snow (elevation about 1,000 meters or some 3,200 feet). We had to stop at the intersection and consider awhile. Do we really want to do this? Can we do this? There WERE tracks; someone had gone into Bear Creek Road... We decided: Nothing ventured, nothing bent. So we headed down Bear Creek Road, following the tracks that were too wide for my Dodge Dakota (ugh, I'll explain later), let alone the super-narrow Land-Rovers, so we were pretty much breaking trail anyway. And we didn't get far before the tracks turned around and doubled back on themselves. Virgin snow; YES!!!! Unfortunately, our group was also liberally sprinkled with virgin snow-drivers as far as off-roading was concerned. We slipped and slid, fishtailed and spun. We grinned from ear to ear, an affliction that was to become downright worrysome as the weekend wore on 8^] We soon were able to test Vance's sand ladders (which are really not ladders but heavy steel mats which were origninally used to assemble makeshift airfields for the military) and break in our shovels (and shovers, i.e. hands). A lot. One sharp downhill turn gave my Dodge enough trouble to get me quite sideways and Jason's fat-tired Land-Rover as well. A little farther on, on an uphill turn, Gerry was the one having trouble, rather to my surprise, since his Series III 88 was shod with some very fine-looking Michelin 7.50x16s with a fairly agressive tread. But he just couldn't seem to get up around this turn. Particularly embarassing as he was right behind Walt's Toy which had no trouble (and it shod with 31x10.50x15s!!) So good old Walt, who obviously was the superior snow driver, graciously slipped into Gerry's driver's seat while Gerry and Bob stood by and watched him back this cherry Land-Rover into a ditch, against a high bank, and get it properly stuck. See how it's done, now, Gerry? No harm actually done. Enough help had come along to get Gerry going again (plenty of time, as Jason was in trouble again farther down, anyway). Meanwhile, I pulled ahead and caught up with the leaders (Vance and Morgan) who had parked on a relatively flat stretch. I was concerned about them, too, as they were making noises about "vapor lock" over the CBs. Vapor lock in this coolth? When I got there I found out what Morgan's version of vapor lock was. Fortunately, this type can be cured be a pint of best bitter. Eventually everyone caught up and enjoyed a well-earned vapor lock session. As best I can remember through the ale and stout, no significant problems were encountered for the rest of the trek down to the Rice Fork (of the Eel River) crossing. The sight of this crossing caused everyone to accrue additional increments of severe vapor lock. The hungry-giant had also attacked by this time and the bank of the river looked like a very pleasant place for lunch. This crossing is at roughly 2,100 feet and was below the snow line. The sun was beating down quite warmly. The scenery was fabulous. The company was as good as it gets (well almost, but more about that later). True to form, we dug into our tucker bags and spent about two hours over lunch, all the while, of course, studying each other's Rovers and pondering the big question that was on everyone's mind. Can we cross this river? Could we? Certainly not at the official crossing which was about 50 or more feet wide with steep banks about four feet or so high. Not crossing there until the Forest Service reconstructs the ford. But just upstream, by following a narrow gravel bar on our side, we could get to an unofficial ford that trespassed on private land. Walt had used (by invitation) this crossing on his private outing a few weeks earlier. We discussed this possibility with the occupants (who may or may not have borne any relation to the actual owners but who bore a definite resemblance to characters out of Deliverance-- Bong-ba-BONG-bong-bong) and essentially paid a "toll" from our vapor lock provender. Ben showed up!!! That sucker tracked us down! He made it down, without anyone to assist him, in his ailing SIII 88 with blown head gasket (sounded like the bullgen make-and-break in Farley Mowatt's _The_Boat_Who_Wouldn't_Float_) and with complete spare engine in the back (not to mention nearly bald front tires). You heard me, a spare engine!! You know how you always struggle with deciding what spares to pack? Well, Ben has resolved the dilemma; bring 'em all! Poor Ben had left a trail of smoke and oil on the highway but had not been dissuaded. A lesser enthusiast would have turned back when the crankcase emptied on the highway through the fuel pump seal. Not good old Ben. THAT fellow is GAME!! Not so Bob and Gerry. About time it was clear that some of these squirrels were actually thinking about attempting to ford the deep and rushing stream, cooler heads prevailed in THAT Rover and it headed back toward town. In fairness, as you will see in Part 2, I later found myself belatedly admiring their sensibiliy.... ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 03 Apr 95 11:57:36 EDT From: ritter mark c <70472.1130@compuserve.com> Subject: Locking diffs for Disco Does anybody out there have a locking diff on their Disco? Is the ARB the only way to go or is thier an automatic unit available that I don't know of? Seems like the only times that I've had trouble on a trail has been a cross-axle situation where traction from both rear wheels would have fixed the problem. ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: Re: D-90 destroys tire Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 12:49:37 EDT > Since I do a lot of hi-way driving, I decided to re-shoe the beast > with the AT's, and save the four good MT's for a rainy day, or > some good mud north of the border. none Aye, mates, he's committed himself now!!! see you there, rd/nigel ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov> Subject: Re: D-90 destroys tire Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> Russell Burns writes: > I was out skidding logs in my backy yard this afternoon, when I > managed to destroy a tire. One of those 164r75 16 bfgoodrich MT > monster mudders... none snip > Since I do a lot of hi-way driving, I decided to re-shoe the beast > with the AT's, and save the four good MT's for a rainy day, or > some good mud north of the border.> I am in a similar position, shopping for BF Goodrich ATs for my 109 and have found that there is a wide range in prices for the same tire. You may have a need and desire to support your local BF Goodrich dealer for whatever they'll do for you in the way of added value through better knowledge, service or what have you. If not, you can save a small fortune by shopping the mail order dealers and having them mounted and balanced at your local service station. The savings might pay for that ruined MT ;^> Walt Swain ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Mugele, Gerry" <Gerry.Mugele@WellsFargo.COM> Subject: L-R Movie Sightings Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 10:15:00 PDT Okay so when are we going to publish our list? Here's another one and with portent of things to come (remember about a year ago when Jack Nicoholson, in real life assaulted the car of an offending motorist with a gold club?): The Passenger (1975), Dir: Michaelangelo Antonioni. Jack Nicholson bashes a LandRover with a shovel. ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 10:34:47 PDT From: brabyn@skivs.ski.org (John Brabyn) Subject: Re: Locking diffs for Disco Maybe another solution would be a swaybar disconnect, but you'd probably have to make it yourself. Cheers John Brabyn 89RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: New Land Rover Home Page Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 12:03:08 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> Ok, I sent this out yesterday, but the list appears to be down. http://www.dealernet.com/l_rover/l_rover.html This seams to be put out by a bunch of Land Rover dealers. right now the information is mostly Discos, short LR story and warranty information. Lots of nice photos. Under performance, however, the first photo is a Camel Trophy Defender (a good photo btw). -Benjamin Smith ---------------- Science Applications Internation Corporation Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil 1972 Land Rover Series III 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 12:50:47 EST From: "Lapa, Hank" <hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com> Subject: Re[2]: Retractable Belts. Into "the bulkhead?" I am confused. I know what "bulkhead" means in a ship or an aeroplane, and I *thought* I knew what the "bulkhead" was in a L-R, but why would one attach seatbelts to the firewall/dashboard? I've got a set of the RN belts I bought years ago and still haven't put in, so enquiring minds want to know. Hank, 3.14259 (get it?) ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: Re: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:04:40 EDT > Sorry to have taken so long to get started on this story but this week has > been very busy. I will post each installment on the Left-Coast Rover-Net > and then post it the following day on lro@team.net. Many of you on > lro@team.net will remember my four-part story of the first Scouting Outing, > a month or so ago. Hmmmm. Left-Coast Rover-Net? Is this an all-exclusive club? Signs of a split list, perhaps? Oh well. More power to ya. Nice story, too. Please do post it on the regular list as well. rgds, rd/nigel (openly minded right coasters) ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 1995 16:25:56 +0000 Subject: SLROC Championship RTV The first Championship RTV of 1995 It was a cold and windy morning as I drove our VW Polo up the half mile dirt track to the meeting point for the RTV event. The site was fairly rough with morrain ridges of loose shale supporting tough grasses and a lot of water. There were about 30 vehicles with 40+ drivers all being scrutineered by the unstoppable Alex Lindsay (who had another appointment that day and was only there to check vehicles! - dedication!) The pack was split into two groups and off we headed. Group A, with myself as start marshall, were to start with section 1 and run through to section 5, whilst group B did 6 to 10. After lunch we swapped over & covered the other sections. Section 1. A small mud splash and then a hump and round to a drop over a 4' lip (gate 2) and up 6' of shale at a 70 degree slope to gate 0. A few people had slight difficulty with the turn into gate 2. Section 2. A tight left-hander, slopeing down to the right, between gates 12, 10 & 8 caught a few people. This was followed by a scrabbling climb up the loose embankment before dropping back down into a dog-leg and then through 0. Section 3. A shallow gully, dropping down across a track and then climbing up a 40 degree slope to get back up onto the plateau for gate 4. A tight turn in a hollow caused a few people to miss the 0 gate. Section 4. This was an interesting run along ridges with the competitors having to cross ridgebacks to get through the various gates. The mid-runners had probles with gate 10 (the shale was loose and the early runners had cut it up quite badly) until someone cottoned onto the idea of running along a ridgeback and powering *across* the slope to get through the 10. After dropping back down through 8, a wrong line turning into gate 6 caused several people to ram their bumpers into the hillside. Section 5. A lovely, easy section with a climb up onto a knoll and then dropping down, shoogle(~) through gate 4 before a gentle drive across the top of the pond and climb back up the embankment before turning down through the 0 gate. One brave (?) entrant decided to clean his vehicle by driving back to the lunch site through the pond and along the gully at the bottom of the embankment. GLUG! He entered the main part of the pond and sank into the silt. Due to the tilt of the vehicle, his seat was dry but his younger brother had to jump onto the seatbacks to get out of the water. We needed two vehicles to get him out again. After lunch, we attacked the sections that the other group had aready gone over. Section 6. THE WALL OF MUD. A shallow drop, through gate 10, a gentle swing round into.... a wall of mud. The 6 gate straddled a mud hole which was, by the end of the day, a glutinous pit 4' deep! Nobody in group A got through it - a 101 would have struggled to clear this hole! Section 7. This must have been quite easy as I don't remember much about it.... Section 8. This section had 2 noteable features: a cross-axleing gully (which caught more than one person) and a mud-slide just before the 0 gate. The gate was actually wide enough to get past the mud but the drivers had to be carefull leaving the number 2 gate to slip up onto the dryer side-slope. Section 9. Section 9 was nasty! A simple mud hole caught several folk who failed to have enough Umph to get up the exit slope and the final (0) gate was atop a mound, 8' to 10' up a 60 degree slope, slick with wet grass & mud. Section 10. This was another fairly easy run, snaking along the bottom of a ridge then turning left to climb to the top. A few canes were knocked over but it was a good run to end on. My condolences to Alison (who suffered several stalls in her coil-sprung, V8, series I) and to Graeham (who stalled with his wheels just through the 12 gate (resulting in a 10 score for section 8) My congratulations to the newcommers who had never trialed before - they all did well. Our lowest score for the day was 57, a good score for a novice taking on a tough course. Thanks go to the course builders and the marshals (hey - that includes me!), and to all the competitors for a great day. For those of you who want to turn up for the next one, either to spectate, marshal or drive, I'll post the date as soon as I get it...... -------------------------------------- (~) Shoole (v): A nimble, snake-like, wiggle that one does to get through a short twisty traverse ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. WWW sites: Work -- <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> Play -- <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> #======================================================================# ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: siccama@terena.nl Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:29:03 +0200 Subject: Springs Hi, Three years ago I bought four brand new original landrover springs for my 109 V8. They replaced the ones originally fitted by the factory who had lived for some 60,000 miles. Now, after only some 40,000 miles, the new ones are getting really tired, specially the rear ones. My neighbour who drives a Mercedes 508 van for his business has covered about 600,000 km with the same road springs. I really need new springs at the moment but I don't want to buy the genuine land rover springs anymore, cause I think they are of a very poor quality. Is there anybody who has tried to fit springs of any other make or had custom springs made? Looking forward to your reply. Cheers, Steven Amsterdam, the Netherlands ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:01:33 -0500 From: chrisste@clark.net (Chris Stevens) Subject: Erratic idling revisited Thanks to all who responded to my posting about uneven idling on my SRIIA 88". I spent the better half of the weekend rebuilding the Zenith 36IVE carb, a task that I had postponed for several weeks. Gee it wasn't that difficult afterall. Anyway, I got everything hooked back up and the beast started with ease. But, YIKES, the problem is still there. To review the situation, the vehicle will idle fine for several minutes...750-800 rpms...then all of a sudden lose rpms and nearly quit running. Sometimes it dies. If it doesn't die it usually pick up revs was above 800. What gives? Someone mentioned distributor. Ideas. Chris Chris Stevens 1969 SIIA 88" SW BCG Corporate Communications Towson, Maryland, USA (410) 583-1722 (410) 583-1935 (FAX) chrisste@Clark.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: LRNA LURKER From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 95 19:48:47 -0500 Would the lurker from LRNA please identify him/herself please? Would the same please deny or confirm that LRNA are active in the area of compiling an "IDENTAROVER" book for US customs. Not a great surprise that LRNA are on, just a shame they cant be a bit more upfront about it all. My only conclusion is that they dont want to be deluged by incomings mail!! Over to you who ever you are Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 13:38:02 -0700 From: Benjamin Allan Smith <bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil> Russel Dushin wrote: > > Sorry to have taken so long to get started on this story but this week has > > been very busy. I will post each installment on the Left-Coast Rover-Net > > and then post it the following day on lro@team.net. Many of you on > > lro@team.net will remember my four-part story of the first Scouting Outing, > > a month or so ago. > Hmmmm. Left-Coast Rover-Net? Is this an all-exclusive club? Signs of > a split list, perhaps? Oh well. More power to ya. The list was set up to avoid having huge cc lists and also to keep bandwidth off of the main list. I don't think all of you in Timbuktu would like to see 20+ messages a day on 20 or so people organizing a some small Land Rover trips. It is not intended to split away from the list, but just to help organize regional stuff, much like Bill's UK only list I assume. Most of the people on the the list live in or around Central California.With that said, if you want to be on, email me. Traffic for work days last week was (not including my posts) 18,28,14,19,14. The content is organizational stuff and friendly banter, much like this list was 2 years ago before it expanded from 50 to 300+ people. -Benjamin Smith ---------------- Science Applications International Corporation Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division, China Lake bens@archimedes.vislab.navy.mil 1972 Land Rover Series III 88 ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Traction Control Date: Mon, 13 Mar 95 08:53:00 EST Traction control for 4x4 like Range Rovers operates by sensing the spinning rear wheel, by comparison with the other three, and applying the brake to that wheel so power is available to the others. Has anyone tried this as a manual system? Trials cars , dune buggies and tractors use differential braking (Fiddle brakes) to supplement traction. I have considered using a diagonal split braking system (Like Saabs) with a manual overide so that it can be operated as half a system. Then when the vehicle is cross axled and wheels are spinning, just brake those corners and away we go with the loaded wheels. A sort of inpecunious owners diff lock. Any opinions out there on this? Trevor Easton (mr gadget) and Miss Golightly 1962 88" SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 16:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca> Subject: Re: Snow-Run-One; Part 1 On Sat, 1 Apr 1995, Granville B. Pool wrote: > I will post each installment on the Left-Coast Rover-Net ??? Oh well... > I was startled to realize that there isn't much of that sort of > thing toward the right coast. Made me realize just how lucky we > are to live where there is so much excellent public land near at hand. Our mountains are very old, unlike the new formations on the left coast. Eroded and forested they are rather nice. There is also the Canadian shield to consider, mostly Crown lands, undeveloped... I can't speak for the central/southern bits of the right coast, but the northern bits are pretty impressive and beautiful. Good account. I look forward to reading the rest of the mission into the wilds. Rgds, ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 11:54:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "walter c. swain (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> Subject: Discovery for sale Hi David, Since I have not seen a posting to the effect that you have parted with your Discovery, I assume you are still involved in the process of finding the right buyer at the right price. The Sacramento paper has had a classified ad for a Disco, inserted by the local Land Rover/Caddilac dealer. It reads as follows: Land Rover '94 Discov- ery. Hard to find! ID #087808 $29,977. Hubacher Cadillac 916-929-2777 I have not called or looked at it. However, I could stop by and get the specifics on goodies, mileage, etc. if you are interested. Eventually I'll be in the market for one of these as the prices come down out of the stratosphere. I do have a interest in keeping abreast of the market so I'll know a good deal when I see it. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Walter C. Swain | wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us Davis Community Network | Davis, California | 1967 Series IIA Safari SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: MOUNTING A WEBER 45DCOE ON A 2.25L PET. LAND ROVER. From: wz@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Wade Zumbach) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 95 08:40:47 -0500 Hello all! I usually just lurk around here but I thought that I would like to get your comments on what I'm about to try. I have purchase a Weber 45DCOE dual throat side draght carb type #13, #1 G, with the cold start option. I have tried to get a manifold for this single carb mounting application but I have not been abble to find one, so this means that I will have to manufacture my own. So I have given this much thought since I purchased the carb in Oct/94, so far the best mounting that I can come up with goes something like this: I will use a square tube section 1.75" OD with 1/8" wall to this I'll attach the carb, then to that square tube section (about 13" long) at a 90 deg angle I will attach shorter square tube section to arrive at the intake ports (wich are round) on the cyl. head in order to make a smoother transition from the square tube section of the intake manifold to the round intake ports I would heat up the ends & round off the ends of the intake manifold (where the would mate to the cyl.head) thus making a smooth transition from square to round. Just for the record the dimensions of the carb are: 5 1/4" from bottom to top, the mounting surfaces are (trought the throats) 4 3/4". the butterfly valve side of the carb, each throat dia. is 1 3/4". The intake ports are only 1 1/2" in dia. so this means that the shorter square tube sections will likely also need to be 1 1/2". this should all mount to a plate that I would use to cover the exhust manifold heat exchanger thus keeping the factory set-up. I will be mounting this on my 1971 serIIA 88" 2.25L petrol, safari station wagon, that has no OD, on 7.50 X 16" Trac Edges. I would welcome any input on this matter, but I would not be ready to do all these likely modifications till June/95. I have curently got a Rochester carb on the Land Rover & it is in sad shape. Thanks in advance for any comments on this matter! Wade Z. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. -- Wade Zumbach, wz@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:50:59 -0700 From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com> Subject: Fw: Talking Frog (fwd) This had me laughing so loud, I had to forward it to everyone I knew. Hope you all find it just as hillarious! ---- Forwarded from brian@zvs.com (Brian Miller): none A friend of mine forwarded this to me and I thought that you might enjoy it or at least know others who would enjoy it. Surf's up Dude Brian > > A boy was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him > > and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess." [ truncated by lro-digester (was 18 lines)] > > said, "Look, I'm a computer programmer. I don't have time for > > girlfriends, but a talking frog is really cool." ---- End of forwarded message ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 01:36:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Misc Bill Leacock reports... > NB I will be closed for questions from the 8th to 22nd April, my wife is > visiting from the UK for a couple of weeks, she wants to go shopping !!!!, > so if you need anything from me get it in early. Shopping from the 8th to the 22nd??? Yow! That puts her in the major leagues.. Good luck, Bill.. Cheers Mike ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: Re: Erratic idling revisited Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:30:13 EDT > To review the situation, the vehicle will idle fine for several > minutes...750-800 rpms...then all of a sudden lose rpms and nearly quit [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)] > above 800. What gives? Someone mentioned distributor. > Ideas. I'll reiterate one mentioned by others before.....clogged fuel delivery pipe/filter somewhere between the fuel tank and the fuel pump (or beyond) . Remove at the tank, remove incoming fuel line at the pump, clean it, blow air through it, etc........these are the exact symptoms. rd/nigel ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: LANDROVER@delphi.com Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 01:35:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Fitting an overdrive Mark sez... > I'm trying to fit my overdrive unit to my SIII. Has anyone managed to fit > an overdrive WITHOUT using the special spanner/wrench to remove the > mainshaft nut??? Can be done, although you may not like the cheap and dirty method.. First, bend back the locktabs that hold the nut locked.. Then use a brass drift (or a big screwdriver) and a heavy hammer to loosen the nut.. Bang, Bang and it comes loose.. Simple.. and if you really screw it up, you can always get a new nut.. Don't worry.. You won't screw it up... Cheers Michael Loiodice E-MAIL landrover@delphi.com 166 W.Fulton St. VOICE (518) 773-2697 Gloversville NY, 12078 1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P. 7 1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol #:-}> 1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Re: LRNA LURKER Date: Mon, 03 Apr 1995 17:35:39 -0400 From: "Jeff Young" <young@mci.net> when someone posted that they had a new domain registered i checked it out. They're a uunet customer but they haven't brought up a host yet - mail to landrover.com bounces. Jeff Young young@mci.net ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Land Rovers in Print From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 95 19:51:37 -0500 Have seen an advert in MACLEANS magazine for Soth Africa, one picture shows rhinos in the Sabi Sabi game reserve, being viewd from a 109 S3. Appears quite regularily this one does. Robin Craig -- Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. | Ottawa Valley Land Rovers ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Sanna@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:41:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Retractable Belts. >I *thought* I knew what the "bulkhead" was in a L-R, but why would one attach seatbelts to the firewall/dashboard? I think what we're talking of here is the bulkhead behind the front seats. ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: mccauley@hba.trumpet.com.au (Tim McCauley) Subject: Hello! and It's Stuck... Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 14:58:10 LOCAL Hello to all, We are new to the List (Tim and Jenny). Just lurking so far but now it's time to introduce ourselves. The proud owners of a IIa fitted with a flat tray body. The Landy is currently receiving some (much needed) TLC and a good deal of (much deserved) verbal abuse. The main job at hand is the installation of a steering mechanism. We use the term installation because we couldn't bring ourselves to dignify the loosely connected pieces of metal being replaced with the description "steering". The only parts _not_ being replaced between the steering wheel and the road wheels are the track rod, the longitudinal link tube and the drop arm and relay levers. Our big headache at the moment is getting the transfer unit out of the front chassis member. The manual simply says undo the bolts and drive it out with a brass drift, applying oil if it is stiff. STIFF :-] Pardon me while I gag laughing. Well yes it is stiff. The four inch brass drift we started with is now a two inch brass drift and we have drilled the chassis and flooded the sleeve the transfer unit fits in with penetrating oil. It's still not budging . :-{ Any ideas ? By the way, are there any other Tasmanians on the list? Tim and Jenny (or Jenny and Tim depending on who you ask) ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Spenny@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 11:48:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Down East Rally - Owls Head Trevor writes regarding downeast 6: >Starting Saturday July 1st with Off Road day, >various activities, then Sunday at Owls Head as usual I have spoken to myles, and will post something with details times/places/etc about the rally in a week or so, I have semi-regular contact with myles so if you or anybody else has questions regarding downeast, you can direct them to me and i can pass them along or answer them if i know the answer. As for a distinguishing feature, i was going to put a color printout of our most excellent sign on my windscreen at the rally. i will see if i can print some extras... Rgds... Spenny Spencer K. C. Norcross Spenny@aol.com Haverhill, Mass. USA 508-373-1788 (W) 508-521-4093 (H) 508-521-1380 (FAX) ===--===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--=== 1969 IIA SWB - The Wayback Machine Now with most of the Federally requred electrics! Land Rovers on the Information Superhighway! What will they think of next! ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950403 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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