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1 LANDROVER@delphi.com 26Re: Tailgates
2 jpappa01@InterServ.Com 28Re: GPS popularity
3 LANDROVER@delphi.com 22Re: Rover Babe Update
4 David John Place [umplac28Re: Caulking and con jobs
5 David John Place [umplac17Re: Decarbonizing
6 David John Place [umplac14Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest
7 Joseph Broach [PC7170@UT30 strength issues
8 maloney@wings.attmail.co35Thanks Santa!
9 LANDROVER@delphi.com 39Click and Clack


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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 04:22:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Tailgates

Bramen wonders about tailgates...
> tailgate, as opposed to the station wagon rear door. I was wondering how
> difficult it would be to install a regular door in place of the tailgate.

I'm not really too sure.. There is a upper and lower hinge to be installed
that shouldn't present any problems and the latch mechanism which is a bit
more difficult - mostly in alignment.

Tell you what... I've got an extra rear door (but I'll have to check to see
what condition it's in) and I would be interested in trading the door and
hardware for the tailgate and liftgate - if you purchase the truck. I'm only
maybe three hours from Cornell.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 94 08:08:18 PST
Subject: Re: GPS popularity

GPS is clearly becoming more affordable. There are hand held units now being 
discounted for *UNDER* US$400...  Still not dirt cheap but a lot less than the 
grand I had to shell out only a year ago for the Accutrail... The gadgethead 
quotient for these marvels is great but they really are useful, map or no map.

Since most are capable of storing waypoints and course made good in memory, it 
is easy to see the benefit of the GPS system when (forgive me!) trailblazing 
or exploring small logging roads that are not on any maps. Simply store your 
route in memory. You can recall at any time, and, importantly, just turn 
around and follow the analog trace line back to your origin point!! This is a 
tremendous benefit to peace of mind - especially during unexpected fog or 
inclement weather. The GPS is a microwave system - it is immune from weather 
effects - unlike LORAN. Yes, I know, it is subject to EMP, but if electro 
magnetic pulse gets the GPS, then the thermonuclear blast will most likely be 
making molten Brimabrite out of your faithful Land Rover and you too!

cheerz

Jim

roverheadus omniscourgas topadamountin
jpappa01@interserv.com

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 12:42:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Rover Babe Update

Ian comments...

> > homosexual, black, white, asian, or even a 12-foot venusian dragon, and
> [chop]
> <shiver>"12-foot venusian dragon" - doesn't that sent a shiver of 
> excitement up your spine? Does it make the testostorone stir in your 
none

Hey.... I just happen to be sitting next to a 12-foor venusian dragon (hic)
right now... comes around every once and a while (hic) especially when the
Scotch is open...  Call him Rover (hic)

Oh yeah, hope everyone had a Happy (hic) Christmas!!

Cheers
Mike

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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 13:20:40 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Caulking and con jobs

Well I too have pictures of these vehicles.  They were Canadian surplus 
but because they were brought in by the British I was told I couldn't 
register them.  I had planned on using the plate off a wrecked one I had 
but decided not to go this route.  The fellow I got the pictures from was 
Ronald L. Mowry PO. Box 1023 West Lebanon min 04027.  I will type one of 
the deals so you can see what was being offered.  1979 SWB 88 lightweight 
LHD 39,000 miles 24 Volts Price in US $ at Calgary $4,250.00.  1982 LWB 
109 2dr RHD 55,000 miles 12 Volts $5,500.  The last vehicle was described 
at front fenders a little bumpy.  Trucks are painted in military camoflage 
green and black.  There were 33 vehicles in the original listing and 
there were Salisbury rear ends and run good.  The original offering was 
August 21, 1991.  I have a contact in the military here and I asked him 
to check it out.  He never found them and I looked when in Alberta this 
summer and I didn't find the vehicles but since someone says they are in 
the US that seems reasonable.  The Cross Canada rally this fellow planned 
didn't really pan out as listed so maybe there is less to this add than 
it seems on first reading.  I don't know the fellow, don't know if he is 
reputable or anything like that.  All I know is no-one here was able to 
follow through with the stuff.  I have pictures and prices as of 1991 and 
the ones I have all look just fine.  Some are soft top lightweights and 
the others are are Ser III regulars with bumper overriders, front mounted 
tires and no locking hubs I can make out in the pictures.  Dave VE4PN
Sorry the state on the address is West Lebanon Maine.

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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 18:39:29 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Decarbonizing

Decarbonizing is very simple.  You need a about a pop bottle full of hot 
water.  Start the engine and let it come to temp.  With the engine on 
fast idle, you pour a little water into the carb through the air intake 
hole.  Keep the engine from stalling by reving up the engine with the 
linkage.  The main problem is you will smog out all your neighbors!  I 
think they used this method to produce a smoke screen in the second world 
war.  Don't let the engine stall or you will have problems re-starting 
it.  No big problem however because after a few minutes the water will 
have gone up as steam and it will start fine.  Don't use cold water or 
you will crack something.  Pour a little water in at a time till the 
engine regains its revs and then add more till you have used up all the 
water in the pop bottle.  The job is done!  Cheers Dave VE4PN

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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 18:46:03 -0600 (CST)
From: David John Place <umplace@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

I agree 100% with Yves.  I use the 5/8th on the fender and the ball mount 
high up on the box for HF work and it is great.  I have a 40 air operated 
mast for Red Cross Emergency work and of course this is overkill for most 
of you.  By the way Yves, I have used a 14 element box beam on 2 meters 
and it gets out gang busters but it is rather big.  The 5/8ths on the 
front fender using the hole for the boomerang mirrors is an easy solution 
for most CB work and it doesn't wreck the vehicle.  My second choice is 
on the safari rack with a plate mounted across a corner to hold the 
antenna.  Dave VE4PN

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Date:         Sun, 25 Dec 94 21:50:46 LCL
From: Joseph Broach <PC7170@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU>
Subject:      strength issues

     For Christmas I received a Hand Winch from BNW and appropriate tow rings
for the front. What I wanted to know; however, is if the lifting handles
on the rear xmember are up to the challenge of winching the 88. The
tow rings on the xmember that seem designed more for the purpose are too
small for the industrial size hooks. I really think its maneuverability is cool
and the workwanship seems excellent, now if I could only get it stuck :-)

     On another strength issue, I bought myself a Yakima adaptor for bolting
the rack to the tropical roof. I know I could easily remove the sunsheet but
would rather keep it. Due to the sunsheet's thin gauge aluminum, the only
possible way that I see to do it is to install the plates onto the two outer
support strips that the sheet is riveted to. Any ideas? anyone done it?

      P.S. Sid racked up far more than I today! Among his gifts:

                                  Hand Winch
                                  Tow Rings
                                  Halogen lamps (1 replaced the original Lucas)
                                  Pedal Pads
                                  Key Fob
                                  Drain Plug tool and HUGE 1/2 ratchet
                                  and a backorder form for the WS manuals :-(

                         -Rgds,
                          Joseph      '67 IIa 88.......'Sidney'

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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 1994 22:16:18 -0500
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Subject: Thanks Santa!

Santa treated me very well this year.  Some of the goodies he dropped off 
were:
A large Land Rover Sales and Service sign (18"X24" - very nice repro)
A Land Rover Parking only sign (12"X18" has Land Rover logo at top -pretty 
neat)
A Land Rover Rubber Stamp - Series I
A grey T-Shirt, LR logo with "Best 4X4XFar" beneath
Green LR polo shirt with logo on left breast

Other fun non-LR stuff:
20mm ammo can (great for storing spares)
5 gal jerry can
Offset box end wrenches
Gasket punch set
Soviet military hat w/star & hammer & sickle on front.  Eat your heart out 
comrade Steve.

The Land Rover stuff came from Triple C Motor Accessories, 408 942 5585.  If 
any of it sounds interesting, I'd get it soon, 'cause the Land Rover Logo 
police will probably be knocking at their door before long.  The ammo, jerry 
can and hat came from Sportsman's Guide 800 888 3006.  They have lots of fun 
stuff and some genuine military surplus from armies around the world.

Merry Christmas!

Bill

maloney@wings.attmail.com

PS - The signs are EXCELLENT!!!

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 1994 01:14:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Click and Clack

Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers

Those of you on the list from the USA who listen to National Public Radio
will recognise the nicknames of the two brothers who host a weekly call-in
radio program called "Car Talk". If you have no idea of what I'm talking
about, "Click" and "Clack" are actually two brothers (Tom and Ray) who run a
repair garage in the  Boston, Mass area. They host a one-hour radio program
through a local Public Broadcasting radio station and the program is carried
nationwide through the NPR network. It's a good program, and while they do
give out advice on automobile problems, they also poke fun at just about
everything including the people who call in.

On this week's broadcast, some guy from Seattle, Washington called in. One
of his reasons for calling was to thank Tom and Ray for helping to improve
his ex-wife's social life. It seemed that she (Peg from Seattle) called them
a few months back looking for advice on how to find a new man. I don't
remember the details but they suggested she take out an ad looking for a man
with a Land Rover!!!  

The caller claimed that as a result, his ex-wifes social life has improved
and she has met a group of new guys - only one of which turned out to be a
snake!!!

Can anybody in Seattle shed some light on this?? How many of you snakes
*have* been calling Peg???   :)  Inquiring minds want to know!

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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