Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 07:55:22 +0100
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Land Rover Owner Digest:

  1 maloney@wings.attmail.com Wed Jun  8 12:44   49/2355  Tailgates
  2 hiner@mail.utexas.edu Wed Jun  8 14:55   39/2167  More Spring Cleaning
  3 ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu Wed Jun  8 15:09   93/4204  CD-2 and saving money
  4 ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu Wed Jun  8 15:15   47/2385  Re: More Spring Cleaning
  5 M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk Wed Jun  8 16:04   38/2062  Re: More Spring Cleaning
  6 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu Wed Jun  8 16:18   40/2319  OVLR Birthday Party/ Road
  7 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu Wed Jun  8 16:19   56/3262  Cav 100
  8 jory@MIT.EDU       Wed Jun  8 17:04   65/2870  for sale? (+my trip prep)
  9 llevitt@idcresearch.com Wed Jun  8 18:19   28/1196  Re: OVLR Birthday Party/ 
 10 CXKS46A@prodigy.com Wed Jun  8 18:28   33/1973  T-Shirts
 11 UncleBrad@aol.com  Wed Jun  8 19:28   24/1254  Compuserve user still nee
 12 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu Wed Jun  8 21:33   37/2163  Re: OVLR Birthday Party/ 
 13 ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it Wed Jun  8 22:03   40/2044  T-Shirts
 14 dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com Wed Jun  8 22:03   39/2163  Re: T-Shirts
 15 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au Thu Jun  9 00:50   48/2086  Re: Weird G/box arrangeme
 16 dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com Thu Jun  9 00:54   80/4005  Re: CD-2 and saving money
 17 Spenny@aol.com     Thu Jun  9 04:50   29/1317  LRO Mag Update

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Message-Id: <199406081147.HAA09642@transfer.stratus.com>
From: maloney@wings.attmail.com (maloney)
Date: 8 Jun 94 23:46:43 GMT
Subject: Tailgates

bellas@gamma.tti.com (Bellas) asked:

> with a tailgate (in combination with ??? for the upper half).

And Dixon responded:

> with a tailgate (in combination with ??? for the upper half).
       Like most anything Land Roverish, the answer is yes, but with a
        provision  If you have the original rear crossmember on there, it
        will be missing the two brackets that are required for the tailgate
        to swing on.  Other than that, all you need to do is acquire all of
        the bits required..  I don't know of the situation down there, but
        up here the bits required for thehatch hat goes above are pretty
        rare.  Tailgates are usually in pretty poor shape, though
        obtainable.  The other part, well...
> with a tailgate (in combination with ??? for the upper half).

Jim Pappas of the Bay State Rover club has been advertising a new upper 
tailgate lid for I believe about $450.  If you can't find one used and cost is 
not a problem this could be a solution.  Sorry, I don't have the number handy. 
I'm sure someone will post the number on the net if you don't already have it.
The Bay State club number will reach him.

Project update:

I pulled the wings off my 88 last night and I'm beginning to cool off after 
allowing the second person (aside from myself) in 3 years work on the vehicle 
(front chassis leg replacement).  Unfortunately the story isn't over yet but I 
hope to see it finished by the weekend.  I've made some serious mistakes which 
I'll share with you once the job is finished.

Bill Maloney
maloney@wings.attmail.com

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Message-Id: <199406081357.IAA29461@smtp.utexas.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 08:58:24 -0500
From: hiner@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Hiner)
Subject: More Spring Cleaning

I have a 70 88IIa which has seen the last of its spring bushings. After the
recent thread on springs I finally managed to get the truck in to have a
spring shop look it over (bushing work seems like a real pain in the ass -
but maybe I will change my mind).

Anyway they gave me a quote which included $110 for camber shims (special
order and all)! Now I have done most all the work on my truck and looked at
parts books and such and I have never seen camber shims before? Are there
any? Where do they go? Are these guys on the wrong page?

I have also looked at the instructions for removing springs in the Haynes
and LR manuals. Do you really need to support the axle and frame on stands
or can you just raise the frame high enough so there is no weight on the
springs and then just chock the wheel on the axle (to keep the axle from
moving)? Well perhaps before I ramble on with questions could somebody give
me the quick and dirty about how they have done it?

Also I have started another section on the RoverWeb called LRO Tidbits
which contains some of the items that I have seen on the list that I
thought were particularly helpful. Please send me any others that I have
missed.

Best - Greg

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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Message-Id: <9406081411.AA12898@lulu.cc.missouri.edu>
Subject: CD-2 and saving money
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:11:35 -0500 (CDT)

I go to my local Sinclair gas station 'cause it is
two blocks away and they pump the gas and they are
nice people to get to know.  I have been doing
business there for 15 years thru various cars.
Their gas is always 2 or 3 cents per gallon higher
but I rationalize that...

So, the local gas station  was charging $1.49 for 
lead additive two years ago when I first got Lulu
running.

You have to go on faith.  The people say you need
to use lead additive to protect the valves.  But
do you really?  You don't find out till 10k - 20k
miles later if it is right or wrong. So, you swallow hard
and pour it in.  Well, $1.49 was bad enough, but over
two years it crept up to $1.69 and $1.79 and $1.99.
It was getting tougher.  At first I just threw in
a whole bottle -- one bottle treats 20 gal, but what
the hey.  When it went over $2.00 I started putting
in half and saving half for the next tank.  Lulu
uses about 10 gal or one tank per week.  $100 per year
at the $2.00 clip.  I could save $50 a year by only
pouring half in at a time.   It kept climbing -- $2.29
and last week it went to $2.49.  I said enough.

As an aside, it is my understanding from MG magazines that
my nolead 80 MGB had nothing done by the Abbington factory 
for nolead usage -- they didn't know for sure what to do. It
now has 85k miles on the clock and runs -- well -- like
a clock.

In the midwest, a good place to get bargain auto supplies
is Western Auto.  I went down to Western auto last night
looking to buy a couple dozen little bottles of lead
substitute -- maybe get back to the $1.49 days if I were
lucky.

What I bought instead was a pint bottle of CD2

   Stewart-Warner Alemite CD-2 Lead Substitute
   "treats 320 gallons"  $6.29 plus tax.
   one ounce treats 20 gallons.

I was so excited at the money I would save.  That worked
out to $0.20 for each tankful.  I got carried away and
bought two so now I can treat 640 gallons -- over a full
year for $12.58 plus tax.

This CD2 has a clever bottle.  It is all moulded plastic.
There is a cap for the main bottle.  And moulded in the
top is a small 1-oz compartment with a separate cap.
There is a tube that runs from the bottom of the one
pint compartment to the little 1-oz compartment.  To use, 
hold the bottle upright, squeeze the main compartment.  This
forces fluid up the tube to the small 1-oz compartment.
When the small 1-oz compartment is full, take the cap off of
the small 1-oz compartment and pour CD2 into the gas tank.

There is also a 1/2 oz marker and that is what I will use
for my 10 gallon fillup.

Someone here on the LRO net reported this product about
8 months ago and I filed that tidbit of information away
into the deep dark recesses.  And when I saw it at Western Auto,
I knew immediately what CD2 was and that it came recommended.

Saving money -- the more I drive the more I save...
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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000

- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU)        - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)       - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                   - xx
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From: ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu
Message-Id: <9406081418.AA12909@lulu.cc.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: More Spring Cleaning
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:18:37 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <199406081357.IAA29461@smtp.utexas.edu> from "Greg Hiner" at Jun 8, 94 08:58:24 am

Greg Hiner was bold enough to point out...
>Anyway they gave me a quote which included $110 for camber shims (special
>order and all)! Now I have done most all the work on my truck and looked at
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>parts books and such and I have never seen camber shims before? Are there
>any? Where do they go? Are these guys on the wrong page?
A couple of years ago when I looked into getting my springs rebuilt,
the shop said they put thin "teflon" strips between the leaves to
promote flex and reduce wear.  Maybe camber shims are some variation
of this.

The cost of their rebuild was too close to the cost of new, so I didn't
take them up on their rebuild offer.

Aside -- what I did do is take the springs apart, sand blast the
leaves, paint them with 2-part $30 per quart epoxy primer, put
in new bushings.  Was that smart -- probably not.  They are setting 
on a shelf in the basement awaiting the assembly of my rebuild
66 project car.

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Ray Harder                 Columbia, Missouri   314-882-2000

- 61 SIIa 88 (LULU)        - 66 SIIa 88 (rebuild project)
- 69 SIIa 88 (parts)       - 87 RR      (wife's)
- 80 MGB                   - xx
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Message-Id: <9406081506.AA07781@hpc.lut.ac.uk>
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: More Spring Cleaning
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:06:42 BST
In-Reply-To: <199406081357.IAA29461@smtp.utexas.edu>; from "Greg Hiner" at Jun 8, 94 8:58 am

I've never heard of camber shims either.Quick and dirty?Well
quick it isnt,but it certainly *is* dirty:-).
I just jacked mine up as you said,and attacked the bushes with
a hacksaw and hammer and chisel,'til they came out in bits and 
pieces.I was doing the back bushes,rear springs.Then put a
mere suggestion of grease on the new bush,and whacked it in with
a suitable sized socket,(or bit of tube,whatever),blocking the spring
against the chassis with a lump of wood to stop whipping.
Tip.When you buy the new bushes,roll them along the bench,and make
sure the inner and outer steel tubes are concentric.Genuine Parts ones
are,pattern spares arent necessarily.I put a set of non-gen in which
lasted two months.I had two over and happened to do the rolling test

almost by accident.Not only were they not concentric radially,the inner
tube was on the slant,resulting in early failure whatever you did.The
Gen Parts ones I replaced them with have lasted two years so far,and
touch wood are still OK.I think they cost 10p each more than the pattern
spares.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Message-Id: <199406081243.AA116759404@envy.ugcs.caltech.edu>
Subject: OVLR Birthday Party/ Road Trip East
Reply-To: ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 05:43:14 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

	Graduation is but a few days away.  I don't have a job on this
coast and the Institute is kicking me out of Institute housing on Sunday, 
so it's time to pile all of my stuff in the Rover and start heading towards
NJ.  I have no time limit for driving, so I'm going to see a bit more of
the country, specifically the northern part.  From looking at the road
maps, and looking at their claimed times for going from point at to point
b (65 miles in one hour? In a Rover?!? 71 minutes (55 mph) is more like it),
and then wading though all of the math, I've concluded that I can get to
Ottowa in time to play in the mud with the Ottowa Rover crowd.  (Asssuming
I can find a dry place to stash my stuff--TVs and computers don't like mud).
My 3800 mile trip is tentativly planned to start in LA, end up in Seattle
two days later.  If I can making from Seattle to Helena, Monatana in one
(really) long day, I'll stop by and have a few beers with Roy (Roy, will you
be around on Tuesday, 14 June?) Pass through Fargo, ND, Duluth,MN, Cross
into Canada ar Sault Ste. Marie and make it to Ottowa by Friday evening.
	So any advice on crossing into Canada and into the US by car?  Any
advice about customs?  

The only hard part is going to fit all my stuff in the Rover...

-Benjamin Smith
 ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
 1972 Land Rover Series III 88

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From: ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu
Message-Id: <199406081219.AA115517947@envy.ugcs.caltech.edu>
Subject: Cav 100
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Jun 94 19:39:37 PDT."
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 05:18:50 PDT

In message <qgNkNc3w165w@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca> you write:
> The Canadian Armed forces have bought 3 Land Rover 110 CAV 100 vehicles.
> These are armoured and are based on a 110 chassis cab and are fitted with 
> a package made by Courtaulds aerospace. The liason officers with the 

	While writing a term paper that I turned in Monday (on Ocean
Reconnaissance) I had to seach through the last few years of Jane's Defence
Weekly.  The 5 March 1994 issue had this article...

[A photo of a an armored 100 with the the right front part of the engine 
compartment ripped off/bent back, the left front wing was a little banged
up.  Everything from the firewall back appeared undamaged.]  
	The caption to this photo was: "CAV 100 (4 x 4) vehicle after 
suffering blast form land mine on the front right side in Bosnia.  The three
occupants were unhurt."

             "Armoured cars for diplomats"
"The IK Courtaulds Aerospace CAV 100D light armoured vehicle has been selected
by the French foreign Office to carry diplomatic personnel.
  The first vehicles were accepted following tests carried out by French
police special forces and have been delieverd to the French Foreign Office.
  Two versions of the CAV 100D have been delivered to France the VIP and
Escort, both based on the proven Land Rover Defender 110 (4 x 4) chassis.
  The vehicles will be used by French embassy personnel operating in 
various countries worldwide.
  Courtaulds Aerospace has built over 1000 light armoured vehicles on the Land
Rover Defender 110 (4 x 4) chassis with the British Army the biggest customer.
  All CAV 100 vehicles use the Courtaulds lightweight composite armour material called CAMAC.  The specially designed armour panels are moulded and assembled
onto the vehicle to form a monocoque construction.
  The monocoque body is tough and strong and forms a security cell for
protection against ballistic threats and a safety cell for protection from
road accidents.
  The CAV 100 is used by a number of humanitarian relief organizations in 
Bosnia as well as news reporting teams.  Experiance has shown that the CAV 100
gives protection from threats such as fragmentation from grenades and mines,
high velocity ball rounds and blast with no behind armour effects, spall
or splash."

Benjamin Smith
ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu

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Message-Id: <9406081607.AA10655@MIT.EDU>
X-Sender: jory@figment.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:08:01 -0400
From: jory@MIT.EDU (jory bell)
Subject: for sale? (+my trip prep)

i keep thinking of playing around with weird gearbox arrangements.

so, if i wanted to sell my fairey overdrive, how much should i ask for it?
what about my transfer case? any suggestions on where to try and sell such
items?

update on preparations for cross-country drive:

1. got most of the bits for installing a second gas tank. i think i'll go
buy a bunch of hardwarew today, and then (gulp) drill holes in my
recently-new galvanised frame and mount the crossmember and throw in the
tank.

2. Still unsure about a roofrack.

RN's "normal" galvanised one cannot be had prior to my departure. They can
supply their stainless steel unit, but it costs in excess of US$1K!

DAP has a (relatively inexpensive) galvanised unit, but you have to drill
the roof to mount it, and i hate giving money to DAP after all they've cost
me.

I faxed a query to Mereyside 5 days ago, but they never responded.

Atlantic British is out of stock (although I was not inclined to buy their
anyway... it was a pretty expensive for an unremarkable product)

I would really like to get something from RN, since I haave a lot of credit
built up under their restoration program (depressing as that is in its own
way) and would like to avoid cash outlays at this time. RN also has a
normal steel 109 rack that they can cut down to 88" size, but they are
asking in excess of $700 for this (they apparently made it for some guy a
couple years ago and never sold it). This seems excessive

I tried British Rovers in VT, and a couple of other used parts sources to
no avail.

Anyone have any words of advice? I guess I can just UPS all my belongings
and forego a rack, but a rack would be nice in of itself. I would be
excited about fabricating my own, but I have very little time between now
and when I leave, since I have to try and finish up a huge project at work
prior to departure.

3. I am still considering carpet installation, radio installation, other
amenities (BOSE active noise cancelling headphones?  ;)

-jory

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From: llevitt@idcresearch.com
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 13:24:07 EST
Message-Id: <9405087711.AA771107047@ccmailout.idcresearch.com>
Subject: Re: OVLR Birthday Party/ Road Trip East

 By my calculations, you and Jory are going to cross paths somewhere in the 
 Rockies...
 
 What's this, the annual bicoastal Land Rover cross pollenation/migration event?
 
 :-)
 
 Lee

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Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 13:31:49 EDT
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Message-Id: <013.00821586.CXKS46A@prodigy.com>
Subject: T-Shirts

Okay sportsfans, here's the deal.  I need to raise some capital for the
club, but some of the club assets are illiquid right now (T-shirts sitting
in a box).  I've got a dozen...a couple of ex-large and the rest large.
Haines beefy-T's in gray with pockets.  Four-color club logo on the pocket,
line-art IIa 88 rag-top on the back along with clever sayings.  You can
almost count the threads in the tie-rod ends, it's that detailed.  $20 US
covers return postage.  First ten orders in the door takes 'em.  First dibs
on the XL's takes them, too.

BTW, the *MAY* issue of LRO just arrived.

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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From: UncleBrad@aol.com
Sender: "UncleBrad" <UncleBrad@aol.com>
Message-Id: <9406081431.tn969702@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 14:31:51 EDT
Subject: Compuserve user still needs help

If you read the previous messasge, I was given a Compuserve address for Ben
Newman who couldn't make his way into the net from Compuserve. I gave his
address as 71773,3457. He just called & made a correction or two based on
something he found in his manual...
71773.3457@compuserve.com
Note the period instead of the comma. He is still trying to get out to us but
no luck yet.
Hope someone can help

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Message-Id: <199406082036.AA269787793@envy.ugcs.caltech.edu>
Subject: Re: OVLR Birthday Party/ Road Trip East 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Jun 1994 13:24:07 EST."
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 1994 13:36:31 -0700
From: Benjamin Allan Smith <ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu>

In message <9405087711.AA771107047@ccmailout.idcresearch.com>you write:
>  By my calculations, you and Jory are going to cross paths somewhere in the 
>  Rockies...
	Should we drive a golden spike into the ground where we meet?  :)

>  What's this, the annual bicoastal Land Rover cross pollenation/migration eve
>nt?
	For me, its a biannual event.  Ususally because I live  with my parents
for the summer and because the Rover is still registered in NJ.  I also tend 
to drive instead of flying.
	Sophomore year: drove from NJ to LA and back in a beat up Datsun 510
        Junior year: drove from NJ to LA and back in the Rover
        Senior year: drove from NJ to LA.  Then drove from LA to NJ and back 
                     over Christmas break. All in the Rover.  During the summer
                     a friend and I took a 3 week vaction driving from LA to NJ
                     and back in some Toyota 4 door.
        After Super Senior year I'm hitting the road again for my 10th cross
country road trip and my 6th in the Rover.  One of these days I'll drive
only on back country highways.  That'll be fun.

Benajmin Smith
ranger@ugcs.caltech.edu

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Subject: T-Shirts
From: ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it (Ludovico Magnocavallo)
In-Reply-To: <013.00821586.CXKS46A@prodigy.com>
Date: Wed,  8 Jun 94 22:44:00 +0100

>Okay sportsfans, here's the deal.  I need to raise some capital for the
>club, but some of the club assets are illiquid right now (T-shirts sitting
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 8 lines)]
>covers return postage.  First ten orders in the door takes 'em.  First dibs
>on the XL's takes them, too.

Hi, if it doesn't cost a fortune to send one to Italy, I'll take an XL.
 It will be my first Land-Rover t-shirt... 
 
>BTW, the *MAY* issue of LRO just arrived.

 I have just received this afternoon the June issue of LRO, but the May 
issue is still somewhere between here and England (if it has been shipped 
at all...)
 
 Bye, let me know for the T-shirt...
 Ludovico
 ludovico.magnocavallo@galactica.it
---
* UniQWK v3.0 * The Windows Mail Reader

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Message-Id: <199406082107.RAA19446@transfer.stratus.com>
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: T-Shirts
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:09:09 EDT
In-Reply-To: <013.00821586.CXKS46A@prodigy.com>; from "MR ALEXANDER P GRICE" at Jun 08, 94 1:31 pm

> Okay sportsfans, here's the deal.  I need to raise some capital for the
> club, but some of the club assets are illiquid right now (T-shirts sitting
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 16 lines)]
>     |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
>     *------------------------------------------------------*

Twenty bucks for a tee shirt?  Well, ok.  SURE!  Do I send my bucks to the
above address?

rd/nigel

ps this 135lb body swims in an XL, best make it a L. 
pps are they all the same??  Just what *Do* they say on them?

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Message-Id: <9406082352.AA24665@schooner.waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Weird G/box arrangements
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:22:51 +0930 (CST)
In-Reply-To: <9406081607.AA10655@MIT.EDU> from "jory bell" at Jun 8, 94 12:08:01 pm

> i keep thinking of playing around with weird gearbox arrangements.
> so, if i wanted to sell my fairey overdrive, how much should i ask for it?
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> what about my transfer case? any suggestions on where to try and sell such
> items?

What exactly do you have in mind for the gearbox??

A Company down-under makes a heavy-duty 5 sp. conversion that bolts up to the
std. rover transfer case.  

 The box is out of a nissan truck, has a nice low first gear and a high
overdrive  (0.78 I think)  They are also reportedly almost bomb-proof.

There name is something like MARK'S 4WD.

I caqn chase more details if people are interested and patient.
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)
  Dept. of Plant Science,    Waite Institute
  University of Adelaide,  Glen Osmond S.A. 5064
  Australia. Voice:61_8 303 7426  Fax:61_8 303 7102

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Message-Id: <199406082357.TAA00251@transfer.stratus.com>
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: CD-2 and saving money
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:58:29 EDT
In-Reply-To: <9406081411.AA12898@lulu.cc.missouri.edu>; from "ccray@lulu.cc.missouri.edu" at Jun 8, 94 9:11 am

Snipsnip
> What I bought instead was a pint bottle of CD2
>    Stewart-Warner Alemite CD-2 Lead Substitute
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 28 lines)]
> into the deep dark recesses.  And when I saw it at Western Auto,
> I knew immediately what CD2 was and that it came recommended.

This is the stuff I use, but I wouldn't exactly say I recommend
it....I've yet to decide if it is doing any good.  Recently, I
reported the (downward) progress of my compression, and now I
can say for sure that my guides are begining to go (I get puffs
'o smoke after letting Nige come to idle, then pump the gas).  Also,
when I had the sump off (to do the rear main seal) and was cranking
on the hand crank I could *hear* the leak-down, and it wasn't
mild leak-down to say the least.  This is, of course, indicative
of a need for rings (as was the moderate-to-good increase in compression
readings upon addition of oil).....and may well have nothing at all
to do with the additive (which as we all know is supposed to protect
the valve seats), but me wonders if me rings are sticking because of
it.  It's thick stuff, that CD2, and I wonder how well it burns and
what residue it leaves behind.  Hence, I now add more Marvel than
I used to, in the hope that it'll clean up whatever the CD2 leaves
behind (and stuck on my rings).

It is cheap, though, and goes a long long way.  Next time you buy it
be careful NOT to grab the bottle of "fuel additive" that looks
almost exactly the same as the CD2.  I made my way all the way to 
the register before realizing I had the wrong stuff, then had to 
search the shelves for what I was looking for.  Finally did find five
or six bottles buried deep beneath the other stuff (and bought it
all).

rd/nigel

ps on another note, this brand new rear diff I recently bought from 
RN leaks like a sieve!  Gets a tad on the warm side, too....am begining
to wonder if I got one of those "10-days or 10-years" rear diffs that
someone out there warned us about (could you please supply another
warning with a bit of a clarification??  Mine is from a 109, supposedly.)

ugh.

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From: Spenny@aol.com
Sender: "Spenny" <Spenny@aol.com>
Message-Id: <9406082352.tn992488@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 23:52:55 EDT
Subject: LRO Mag Update

I just got my june issue, not to rub it in to people who have to 
suffer the italian mail system, but i seem to get mine within a
week and a half of the beginning of the month, but ive
probably doomed myself to erratic deliveries now

Spenny

Spencer K. C. Norcross                                Spenny@aol.com
Haverhill, Mass. USA
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