From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Fri Jun 8 09:44:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f58DiKN27612 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:44:20 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f58ALxf06016 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f58ALwW06011 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@[216.35.192.58]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27884 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f58A2cZ12103 for lro-gone; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:02:38 -0400 Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f58A2X612087 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:02:33 -0400 Received: from pcdjjb.dbs.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.112.238] helo=daffodil) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 158J5t-0000Sl-00 for lro-digest@works.team.net; Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:02:17 +0100 From: "Andy Woodward" To: lro-digest@works.team.net Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:04:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: LRO: Re: Frame bushings Message-ID: <3B20B133.8235.28B8D5BE@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-lro@works.team.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lro@works.team.net X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi Just to ask an idiotic question.... If the only hard partof teh bushing to extract is the outer sleeve, which is usallu corroded in place; and hte only art of the new bushing which prevents teh thing from being merely hammered into place is the outer sleeve, then why not just leave the old sleeve in ther, remove the new sleeve from teh new bush and hammer the remainder into teh old sleeve? I ask cos hte only bushings I have replaced were teh top shocker ones - which did not have a sleeve and were easy. From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Fri Jun 8 14:52:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f58IqEN28124 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:52:14 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f58HoEo16483 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f58HoEW16480 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net ([216.35.192.58]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09521 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f58FQqH19179 for lro-digest-gone; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:26:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:26:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200106081526.f58FQqH19179@works.team.net> From: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *) To: lro-digest@works.team.net Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #400 Reply-To: lro-digest@works.team.net Sender: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Errors-To: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Precedence: bulk X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Friday, June 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 400 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:11:11 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: Re: LRO: Megatester I do carry an automotive tester in the Rover (does the tach stuff as well as voltage, amps, diodes, etc.) and a Beckman Circuitmate DM-73 in the BMW. There's also a Fluke meter that mostly stays home--decided it was too spenzy to beat around in the Rover. I like the simplicity of this device and since I have a minimag stashed somewhere in all of these places, I thought this made a nice "zero footprint" addition to those toolkits. (Not to mention being perfect for my boat bag which really can't be expanded to contain things like test meters--weight is an issue on racing boats, but I do a surprising number of mechanical and electric repairs on these beasts as we're headed out to the starting line.) It might also be of interest to those who don't carry a meter. It also gives you a certain redundancy in case the meter batteries have gone dead, the leads have broken (a problem with the Circuitmate) or in case you want to leave the meter connected for one test and do a quick continuity check someplace else. All that you've said about brewing your own continuity tester with a test light, or carrying a meter is true--but the Megatester may be of use to some. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:18:26 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion >Whoa there. Now Bruce, some things are funny, but that's taking it >too far. I want nothing to do with the Peppermill. ;-) Nobody WANTS the Peppermill Award Niall... It's not like people are in training to go after the thing...LOL See you at the Christmas Party, right? jeff - -- == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== My garden is full of papayas and mangos. My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos. Taste for the good life, I can see it no other way. --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:33:02 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Megatester Jeff intoned: >I do carry an automotive tester in the Rover (does the tach stuff as >well as voltage, amps, diodes, etc.) and a Beckman Circuitmate DM-73 >in the BMW. Jeff, I really want to see that meter! Who's the manufacturer? Sounds like just the ticket for my portable kit, so I can leave the Fluke at home. And you know what they say - "If it works, it 's a Fluke!"r aj"SImpson 260 Rules!"r ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:49:17 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion >Nobody WANTS the Peppermill Award Niall... It's not like people are >in training to go after the thing...LOL Actually, that's EXACTLY what Eric's girlfriend was doing ;-) Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:57:59 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Megatester > And you know what they say - "If it works, it 's a Fluke!"r > > aj"SImpson 260 Rules!"r > > I once had a Fluke 8020 in the glove box of a Chevy Blazer when it "blazed". It came out of the experience with the case melted and soaked in dirty water from the efforts of the fire department. After opening the case, washing in soapy water rinsing and gently drying it worked just fine. When I told Fluke about it they sent me a new case. I still have the meter as a backup. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:18:42 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: RE: LRO: Megatester Trevor lit up with: I once had a Fluke 8020 in the glove box of a Chevy Blazer when it "blazed". Not a big surprise it worked. I arced one off a 10Kv supply by accident once - replaced the fuse and it flew.... aj"But I still like analog meters! 8*)"r ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:16:42 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Megatester Good job you didn't arc yourself. Meters maybe, but not people still work after that. Not a big surprise it worked. I arced one off a 10Kv supply by accident once - replaced the fuse and it flew.... aj"But I still like analog meters! 8*)"r ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:39:35 EDT From: Landrover88@aol.com Subject: Re: LRO: San Diego Rover fans - --part1_e4.1620c6ea.28514e97_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve: I suggest you make a stop at The Waterfront in Old Town it is the oldest license in San Diego I didn't see any Rovers but the selection was good and the Food was great saw a bunch of vintage stuff on the street outside Dave Walls 1965 IIa 88 - --part1_e4.1620c6ea.28514e97_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve:

I suggest you make a stop at The Waterfront in Old Town it is the oldest
license in San Diego I didn't see any Rovers but the selection was good and
the Food was great saw a bunch of vintage stuff on the street outside

Dave Walls
1965 IIa 88 - --part1_e4.1620c6ea.28514e97_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:37:14 +0100 From: "Frank Elson" Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? now let's see. The rear quarter panel of a 5 door 110 is a straight swap into a 109 five door and vice versa The rear side door of a five door 110 is a straight swap into a a 109 five door and vice versa The front doors of a 110 are straight swaps for 109 front doors and vice versa The front wings of a Ninety/110 are straight swaps with those of the 109 and vice versa so where's the extra inch? Best Cheers Frank +--+--+--+ I !__| [_]|_\___ I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hope Peter To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? > from Designa Chassis. To use a 110 frame, you would also either have to > shorten the frame by 1", or fit a defender back body, roof sides, and roof > panel. > > > I know the wheel base is one inch longer, but is the frame itself exactly 1" > longer also? > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:29:03 -0700 From: "Rich Williams II" Subject: LRO: galvanized cappings When people paint their Series trucks what do they do about the galvanized body cappings and other realed galv'd bits? Leave them be? Paint them? Re-galvy? And on the rear tub, those dome-shaped rivets look like they could be trouble - and what about replacing them? On the galv'd bits, were they originally hot-dipped or were they electro-plated Zn? Now I am not, I repeat NOT, making this any sort of show truck. All I want to do is a nice respectable job that the truck rightly deserves. Thanks, Rich SII 109SW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:34:55 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: LRO: Rovers-Got to love em Rangie's tank painted, skid plate painted, gas lines replaced with stainless, everything in place, pump runs, ngine starts. Oi, what's this, the low fuel light is on. i musta forgotten to connect the sender. Check under back, no wire appear to be on, could they be backwards? Pull to change over and top connector comes off very easily. Must be the problem, I'll just nip up the connector. What's this? There's a spade lug in the connector. Lo and behold there isn't a spade lug on the fuel sender. (Expletive deleted) Oh well hopefully tomorrow I can solder on a pigtail without having to remove the tank again. Rover ownership is such challenging fun. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:04:08 -0400 From: "Scott Wickham Jr." Subject: LRO: RE: Rovers-Got to love em Rover ownership is such challenging fun. Lucy's not starting very well. Remove starter. Bench check. Yep, it's screwed. Take to local starter/alt. shop. Repair total: $35. Worked for a day. Lots of swearing. Take back to shop, tell the guy I'm taking this truck to Canada for a big rally, will probably submerge said starter in muddy Canadian water. Make the starter like new! RN said they could get me one for $505.00. Can't afford that just yet. On the bright side, I'm getting quicker at putting in a starter ;) My 101 FC user's manual showed up today. Just makes me want one even more. What a great truck! Scooter ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jun 2001 16:23:29 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? Bulkhead or door posts? Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" On Thu, 07 June 2001, "Frank Elson" wrote: > > now let's see. > The rear quarter panel of a 5 door 110 is a straight swap into a 109 five > door and vice versa > The rear side door of a five door 110 is a straight swap into a a 109 five > door and vice versa > The front doors of a 110 are straight swaps for 109 front doors and vice > versa > The front wings of a Ninety/110 are straight swaps with those of the 109 > and vice versa > > so where's the extra inch? > Best Cheers > > Frank > +--+--+--+ > I !__| [_]|_\___ > I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV > "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hope Peter > To: > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? > > > > from Designa Chassis. To use a 110 frame, you would also either have to > > shorten the frame by 1", or fit a defender back body, roof sides, and roof > > panel. > > > > > > I know the wheel base is one inch longer, but is the frame itself exactly > 1" > > longer also? > > > > ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:07:20 -0400 From: "d.h.lowe" Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Rovers-Got to love em While you are under there Scott, remove the ground strap at the engine block and give it a good cleaning. Your starter will love you for it. Dave Scott Wickham Jr. wrote: > Rover ownership is such challenging fun. > > Lucy's not starting very well. Remove starter. Bench check. Yep, it's > screwed. Take to local starter/alt. shop. Repair total: $35. Worked for a > day. Lots of swearing. Take back to shop, tell the guy I'm taking this > truck to Canada for a big rally, will probably submerge said starter in > muddy Canadian water. Make the starter like new! RN said they could get me > one for $505.00. Can't afford that just yet. On the bright side, I'm > getting quicker at putting in a starter ;) > My 101 FC user's manual showed up today. Just makes me want one even > more. What a great truck! > > Scooter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:32:54 +0100 From: "Frank Elson" Subject: LRO: Re: Slowing down windscreen wipers dunno your location Rick, but here in the UK wipers tax our minds a fair bit! It was hailstoning today - in flaming June :-(> Best Cheers Frank +--+--+--+ I !__| [_]|_\___ I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Grant To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers > I know that this isn't a biggie in the grand scheme of Land Roverdom but I > wonder if there is a simple way of slowing down my wind screen wipers or > even installing a wiper delay switch of some sort. > > I have the self contained individually switched units common to SII's. > > In anything less than a moderate rain I find that they are much too > fast. Switching them off and on while driving is quite a distraction. > > I could link both to a simple switch on the dash with no problem but what I > would really like is something that would also allow me to slow them down, > sort of like how a house light dimmer switch works. > > There are much more serious things I should be concerned about with my > machine but a slight two day break in what has been shaping up to be the > worst drought in 150 years in this area has focused my attention on the wipers. > > > > > Rick Grant > > 1959 Series II "88" > VORIZO > > > > Rick Grant Communications > Media and Crisis Management > Calgary Ottawa > www.rickgrant.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:23:25 +0100 From: "Frank Elson" Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Optima battery anyone? Good price OK, the time has come to ask the question. What are the differences between the colour tops on Optima? Best Cheers Frank +--+--+--+ I !__| [_]|_\___ I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Rowe To: lro@works.team.net Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Optima battery anyone? Good price > On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:50:44 -0400, Tackley, John wrote: > > >I bought the genuine, original Optima Yellow top at a recent LR rally (Old > >North State's Uwharrie Safari) for $89 from 4X4 Connection, obviously a > >great price which also avoided shipping charges. We are attempting to round > >up vendors for ROAV's Mid Atlantic Rally October 5-7 and hopefully 4X4 > >Connection will be one of them...good folks. > snip > > You may want to check into an Exide dealer coming. Looking at the two batteries, at > least the deep cycle seems nicer in the Exide version, 4 top posts plus two side posts. > The regular one, equiv to the Optima red top, has two top and two side posts. > I've never done a side by side comparison, just commenting on external features. > Cheers > > Tom Rowe > Atlanta, GA > > Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck > in places even more inaccessible > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:40:51 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: Re: LRO: Megatester Al pleads... > Jeff, I really want to see that meter! Have to check the manufacturer. Source was Autozone. Cost was $80 I think... (Fluke makes such a meter--available only through select sources--but it costs over $250.) Anyhow, it'll be in the Rover next time you see me. It's always there. jeff - -- == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== My garden is full of papayas and mangos. My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos. Taste for the good life, I can see it no other way. --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:02:27 -0600 From: Rick Grant Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Slowing down windscreen wipers At 20:32 07/06/01 +0100, Frank Elson, wrote >dunno your location Rick, but here in the UK wipers tax our minds a fair >bit! > It was hailstoning today - in flaming June :-(> It was here too yesterday. A thunderstorm moved through Calgary and dumped some three inches of hailstones on the NW side of the city. Not only was there nothing on the south side where I am but I haven't seen a drop of rain since I went through all of the nonsense to wire both wiper motors to a single switch. I got so frustrated with the no rain situation that I turned the garden hose on the windscreen to test the wipers and promptly flooded said vehicle because not only had I forgotten to slide the windows shut but I also forgot to close the bloody doors. Some days are golden and some are. . . . Rick Grant 1959 Series II "88" VORIZO Rick Grant Communications Media and Crisis Management Calgary Ottawa www.rickgrant.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:44:55 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Fowler" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Well Niall.... The last Unicorn has donated a peppermill for the award. Which means some lucky / errrr... unlucky? person will end up with it :-) Bruce F. - -----Original Message----- From: Niall Forbes :>Whoa there. Now Bruce, some things are funny, but that's taking it :>too far. I want nothing to do with the Peppermill. ;-) : - -----Reply Message----- From: Jeff Berg :Nobody WANTS the Peppermill Award Niall... It's not like people are :in training to go after the thing...LOL : :See you at the Christmas Party, right? : :jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:48:30 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: LRO: we're not the only crazy ones I spent a couple hours the other evening helping a buddy figure out that a 1600cc engine out of a Type 2 won't *quite* fit in the space of an 1100 in an early bug, without cutting the sheetmetal. It's a matter of millimeters, though, dammit. (Actually, I think if we'd had a jack that allowed us to tip the engine, it would have fit) Afterwards, we repaired to local mexican place for a Margaritta, where one of the waiters noticed we were slightly greasy, and asked if we'd been working on the bug. It turns out he's just replaced the clutch in his, and it still didn't shift smoothly. Both Kevin and I instantly asked 'Did you adjust the cable?', which got us a look of "Oh. I'm dumb, aren't I?" I'm so glad I 'm not the only one who jumps to expensive diagnosis, skipping the easy and cheap ones. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 02:31:44 From: "Camilo Osejo" Subject: LRO: gear and transfer teach please Gentleman,\ Could please anyone explain how do the gear and transfer box levers work in a series vehicle (to be used in a sIII santana)? A friend of mine just bought one and asked me to teach him how does it work, but I am not shure. Another friend said when one engage the low gears (red lever), the double traction lever (yellow one) pops up, leaving you 4x2 in low gear. I find that kinda hard to believe...help please. Thanks a lot. Cam. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:06:21 -0400 From: "Lee Jones" Subject: LRO: RE: gear and transfer teach please OK - with the yellow lever up and the red lever forward you use the black lever like a regular 4 speed and you are in 2 wheel drive HI With the yellow lever pushed DOWN and the red lever forward you are in 4 wheel drive HI BUT to put it back into 2 wheel drive HI you gotta stop and pull the red lever back and push it forward and the yellow lever will pop up (now 2 wheel drive HI) When you put the red lever back you will be in 4 wheel drive LOW - to my weak knowledge there is no 2 wheel LOW unless you forget to lock the front hubs if they are so equipped. Lee - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lro@works.team.net [mailto:owner-lro@works.team.net]On Behalf Of Camilo Osejo Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:32 AM To: lro-digest@works.team.net Subject: LRO: gear and transfer teach please Gentleman,\ Could please anyone explain how do the gear and transfer box levers work in a series vehicle (to be used in a sIII santana)? A friend of mine just bought one and asked me to teach him how does it work, but I am not shure. Another friend said when one engage the low gears (red lever), the double traction lever (yellow one) pops up, leaving you 4x2 in low gear. I find that kinda hard to believe...help please. Thanks a lot. Cam. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:06:48 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: gear and transfer teach please On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Camilo Osejo wrote: : :Gentleman,\ : :Could please anyone explain how do the gear and transfer box levers work in :a series vehicle (to be used in a sIII santana)? :A friend of mine just bought one and asked me to teach him how does it work, :but I am not shure. :Another friend said when one engage the low gears (red lever), the double :traction lever (yellow one) pops up, leaving you 4x2 in low gear. :I find that kinda hard to believe...help please. There are three levers, from left to right, they are: 1) the main gearbox shifter, with a black knob. Used in the usual manner, four forward gears, one reverse. Reverse is over to the left and up. 2) A yellow knob that moves up and down. This is used to engage four wheel high. You can do this while moving, as long as you're going straight, and the wheels aren't spinning. 3) the high/low shift, red knob. In the forward position, the transfer case is in high, either two-wheel or four-wheel drive, depending on the yellow lever's position. When you pull this back, you engage low range, four-wheel drive. If you had been in high, 4-wheel drive, the yellow knob will pop up. Even though the yellow lever pops up, you are in 4-wheel drive. There is no two wheel drive in low range. To shift this lever, you should be stopped. The only way to disengage 4-wheel drive, high range is to stop, shift into low, and then back into high. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:20:22 -0600 From: "William J. Rice" Subject: Re: LRO: galvanized cappings My cappings were all painted when I got the truck, so I re-painted 'em when I painted it. But when I got my bulkhead and everything else galvanized, I took all the cappings off and had 'em re done. I believe the originals were hot dipped. If you can get 'em done cheaply somewhere near you, it'd sure be nice to re-do 'em. Those rivets at the back are actually pretty easy to remove. Just use a cold chisel and a BFH and knock the heads off of them. I replaced them with some nice sealing pop rivets from Auveco that are pretty strong. bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:37:37 -0700 From: "Rich & Lori Williams" Subject: LRO: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. My 109 came with Fairey FWH but never got the opportunity to engage them so 2 questions: 1) when the truck is put back into service do I want to keep them 2) how do they get used? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Jones To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: LRO: RE: gear and transfer teach please > OK - with the yellow lever up and the red lever forward you use the black > lever like a regular 4 speed and you are in 2 wheel drive HI > > With the yellow lever pushed DOWN and the red lever forward you are in 4 > wheel drive HI BUT to put it back into 2 wheel drive HI you gotta stop and > pull the red lever back and push it forward and the yellow lever will pop up > (now 2 wheel drive HI) > > When you put the red lever back you will be in 4 wheel drive LOW - to my > weak knowledge there is no 2 wheel LOW unless you forget to lock the front > hubs if they are so equipped. > > Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lro@works.team.net [mailto:owner-lro@works.team.net]On > Behalf Of Camilo Osejo > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:32 AM > To: lro-digest@works.team.net > Subject: LRO: gear and transfer teach please > > > > Gentleman,\ > > Could please anyone explain how do the gear and transfer box levers work in > a series vehicle (to be used in a sIII santana)? > A friend of mine just bought one and asked me to teach him how does it work, > but I am not shure. > Another friend said when one engage the low gears (red lever), the double > traction lever (yellow one) pops up, leaving you 4x2 in low gear. > I find that kinda hard to believe...help please. > > Thanks a lot. > > Cam. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:17:01 -0400 From: "Matt Kohr" Subject: LRO: Re: Rollover Bar for sale Is it internal or external and what's your price? Thanks, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:58:09 +0200 From: Paul Oxley Subject: Re: LRO: galvanized cappings Rich Williams II wrote: > When people paint their Series trucks what do they do about the galvanized > body cappings and other realed galv'd bits? > Leave them be? Paint them? Re-galvy? If you can't remove and re-hot dip them, get hold of some Tri-valient (SP?) Chromium. This cleans the surface of the old galv and strips a tiny amount (couple microns) off the old stuff, renewing it nicely. BTW, NOT Hexa-valient Chromium, which is NASTY stuff. Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:58:02 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Slowing down windscreen wipers - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Grant" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Slowing down windscreen wipers > At 20:32 07/06/01 +0100, Frank Elson, wrote > >dunno your location Rick, but here in the UK wipers tax our minds a fair > >bit! > > It was hailstoning today - in flaming June :-(> > > It was here too yesterday. A thunderstorm moved through Calgary and dumped > some three inches of hailstones In the three years I have lived on Oahu we have had 2 thunderstorms. Back in VA it was a daily thing in the summer. For about the first 10 minutes of the storm yesterday I thought someone was doing some contruction outside. Btw, what are hail stones? hahahaha Pete ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:04:08 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q > Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. My 109 came with > Fairey FWH but never got the opportunity to engage them so 2 questions: > > 1) when the truck is put back into service do I want to keep them > Ohhh boy, every one get the nomex out hahahaha Pete ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:13:52 -0700 From: "Rich & Lori Williams" Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q All set with the Nomex - half expecting that one - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hope Peter To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: LRO: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q > > > > Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. My 109 came with > > Fairey FWH but never got the opportunity to engage them so 2 questions: > > > > 1) when the truck is put back into service do I want to keep them > > > > Ohhh boy, every one get the nomex out > hahahaha > Pete > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Rich & Lori Williams wrote: :Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. My 109 came with :Fairey FWH but never got the opportunity to engage them so 2 questions: : :1) when the truck is put back into service do I want to keep them I'd keep them if they're in good shape. My opinion on them is they're nice, but not essential. : :2) how do they get used? Leave them engaged for city driving, unlock them for highway drives. If it gets cold where you are, unlock them for cold weather when you don't expect to need four-wheel drive. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:35:43 +0200 From: Paul Oxley Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q Hope Peter wrote: > > Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. > Ohhh boy, every one get the nomex out Burn, baby, burn! I'm not going anywhere near this one. Except to say... FWH are FTD(tm) Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:13:43 +0100 From: Ian Stuart Subject: Re: LRO: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q On Friday 08 June 2001 06:37, you wrote: > Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. My 109 came > with Fairey FWH but never got the opportunity to engage them so 2 > questions: > Answers: 0) What do they do? A) They seperate the rotating wheel (and wheel-hub) from the half-shaft in the axle. This is said to be good because: The rotating wheel turns the hub; the hub turns the half shaft, the half-shaft turns the diff; the diff turns the front prop; the front prop turns shafts & geats on the transfer-box. All the turning shafts and gears requires energy, therefor by disconnecting the hubs from the drivetrain, none of this stuff turns; you save energy - which means more power for economy or speed. This is also said to be bad because: all the shafts and gears in the drive-train are lubricated by the various parts splashing in the oil, and throwing it around. By diconnecting the front wheels from the front drive-train, the front drive-train does not get the lubrication (and coating) of oil it needs. This causes the various parts to drain dry, which which leads to premature wear.. and rust. > 1) when the truck is put back into service do I want to keep them A) Possibly. The FWH can be useful on long, higher-speed runs, when on tarmac'd roads. Personaly, I'd remove them if they are not in good condition, of if you intend to use the vehicle in muddy conditions (why, you ask - Well, I had a set, and when you are buried upto the fron axel in sticky mud, the rotating wheels lock & unlock the FWH - which is not good :) > 2) how do they get used? The whole of the aluminium casting is rotated. If you look on the face of the FWH, you will see the following: 4x4 <--> 4x2 4x4 is locked (wheel and halfshaft connected) 2x4 is free (wheel and halfshaft seperated) If you decide to keep the FWH, then the ideal is disconnect them only when you really want to. In practice, most people will keep them freed, and lock them when they want 4x4 (in which case, lock them every mile in 50 to keep throwing the oil around....) - -- --==**==-- Ian Stuart - EDINA, DataLibrary, University computing services. - --------------------------------- A man depriving some village, somewhere, of a first-class idiot - --------------------------------- http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:16:30 +0200 From: "Jon Harald Berge" Subject: RE: LRO: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lro@works.team.net [mailto:owner-lro@works.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Oxley Sent: 8. juni 2001 09:36 To: lro@works.team.net Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Re: RE: gear and transfer teach please AND ANOTHER Q Hope Peter wrote: > > Okay so add to all this the use of Free Wheeling Hubs. > Ohhh boy, every one get the nomex out Burn, baby, burn! I'm not going anywhere near this one. Except to say... FWH are FTD(tm) Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:58:59 +0200 From: "S. Vels" Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? Frank Elson wrote: > The rear quarter panel of a 5 door 110 is a straight swap into a 109 five > The rear side door of a five door 110 is a straight swap into a a 109 five > The front doors of a 110 are straight swaps for 109 front doors and vice > The front wings of a Ninety/110 are straight swaps with those of the 109 > > so where's the extra inch? Collective inaccuracy? :-) rgds sv/aurens ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:04:19 +0100 From: "Andy Woodward" Subject: LRO: Re: Frame bushings Just to ask an idiotic question.... If the only hard partof teh bushing to extract is the outer sleeve, which is usallu corroded in place; and hte only art of the new bushing which prevents teh thing from being merely hammered into place is the outer sleeve, then why not just leave the old sleeve in ther, remove the new sleeve from teh new bush and hammer the remainder into teh old sleeve? I ask cos hte only bushings I have replaced were teh top shocker ones - which did not have a sleeve and were easy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:31:26 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Frame bushings Re: Idiotic question: Not idiotic... Problem is - the rubber needs to be bonded to the inner and outer sleeves - it's all of a piece, unlike the shock bushings which are separate bits. The purpose of this bushing is to act as a "rubber torsion spring" in support of the suspension - and if any of the bits are loose (rubber in sleeve, sleeve in chassis, or bolt in inner sleeve) this just isn't happening... ajr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:32:30 +0200 From: "Jon Harald Berge" Subject: LRO: Intakeshield Does anybody know where to buy this part? http://development.mikromarc.no/jhb/intakeshield.gif I've tried Norwegian (and some UK) dealers without success. Regards, Jon Harald Berge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 06:41:22 -0500 From: "Garrick Olsen" Subject: LRO: Clutch adjustment?? I got the motor back in with a new clutch disk and the old spring plate. Now, when I push the clutch pedal, it's spongy and takes 3 pumps to get the motor disengaged from the trans. Then with next gear change, I need the three pumps again. Also done at the same time was the rear hard line for the brakes. The brakes feel hard and the truch stops like usual. I adjusted the threaded base to the clutch slave so the bolt was so long that it fell out of its lower mounting cup (and screwed it back again-- there's a little window in the bulkhead just big enough for the wrench!) I also bled the clutch line and saw no bubbles- maybe a total of 4 pedal pumps- 1/2 of the reservoir. I have the Ser II single channel brakes with the Ser II old style clutch slave and the old style metal reservoir. What else can I try to get the clutch working?? For two years now, my off roading has been limited to pushing into the garage. - -Rik in Minnesonta, USA 1960 SER II SWB SW _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:45:28 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: RE: Rovers-Got to love em >>Rover ownership is such challenging fun. > > Lucy's not starting very well. Remove starter. Bench check. Well, if you guys are going to bring on the wrath of Nigel like that, I'm going to join in. The Red Zit has been cutting out. I know how to fix it though. I also need to fix the fuel sender wire which was ripped off at the Moose Trophy. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:55:12 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Series IIa on a Defender chassis? > > The front wings of a Ninety/110 are straight swaps with those of the 109 > > > > so where's the extra inch? The bulkhead is one inch thicker??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:22:31 -0400 From: "Tackley, John" Subject: LRO: RE: Optima battery top colors red - standard auto battery yellow - deep cycle blue - marine deep cycle BTW, I walked into Auto Zone last night and there on prominent display is an Optima Red Top! Seems AZ has dropped the Champion Line of Batteries, which includes the 'Vortek' Optima clone...so Auto Zone is now an Optima authorized warranty agent. CORRECTION: I mistyped the price I paid for a yellow top from 4X4 Connection a few days ago...double-checked receipt...it was $140, still a very good price but not 89$ as I typed a few days ago(but since they 'threw into the deal' a free very slightly used "A" bar from a Def90, the 89$ is real close...) JT/ric..."mea culpa" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the time has come to ask the question. What are the differences between the colour tops on Optima? Best Cheers Frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:23:01 -0700 From: "Rich Williams II" Subject: Re: LRO: galvanized cappings / tri-valent chromium - ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Oxley To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: LRO: galvanized cappings > If you can't remove and re-hot dip them, get hold of some Tri-valient > (SP?) Chromium. This cleans the surface of the old galv and strips a > tiny amount (couple microns) off the old stuff, renewing it nicely. Well I remember this from a miserable 3 semester series of inorganic chemistry but where does one find such an item? > BTW, NOT Hexa-valient Chromium, which is NASTY stuff. Right you are - highly carcinogenic if not tetragenic. ------------------------------ End of LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #400 **********************************************