From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Wed Jun 6 03:19:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f567JsN18577 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:19:54 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f566Hn204473 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f566HcW04467 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@[216.35.192.58]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16106 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f565DZ924944 for lro-digest-gone; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:13:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:13:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200106060513.f565DZ924944@works.team.net> From: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *) To: lro-digest@works.team.net Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #397 Reply-To: lro-digest@works.team.net Sender: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Errors-To: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Precedence: bulk X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Wednesday, June 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 397 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Jun 2001 12:11:19 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Santana brakes from Canada? On Tue, 05 June 2001, "N Forbes" wrote: >'cause they're not worried about >getting sued by us. We would be happy, of course, to sue them on your behalf :) Bryan - the Ugliest American 62 88 70 109 "Genie" ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:21:56 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres I said: >ply tires, I'd go with Michelin LTX for road use or BFG All-Terrain if you >plan on doing any offroading. Just specify white lettering "in" when Actually, I think I might go with the BFGs even if you don't plan on off-roading. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:27:48 -0400 From: jan Subject: LRO: parts FS and parts wanted 1. I have a low-miles LT230 X-fer case FS (I thought I was loosing my LT95 and was going to go to a 5-speed). 2. Anybody got any leads on a good deal on a 110 chassis or frame? Pref. RHD, pref in US NE. TIA Jan in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:41:10 +0200 From: Paul Oxley Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres N Forbes wrote: > Actually, I think I might go with the BFGs even if you don't plan on > off-roading. I'm coming round to that way of thinking too (the BFG ATs are superb, reputedly give up to 130 000kms). If you need more aggressive offroad traction go for the MTs (up to 90 000kms). Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:47:46 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > There's no need at all to switch rim sizes. Just get a set of 33x9.5R15 > tires. They're slightly larger than 235/85/16 but not significantly so and > they should work just as well. > 33x9.50r15 will fit on the stock rims, but you really should go to a 7 to 7.5 wide rim. You can get these from many places in England or Stockton wheel in Stockton California. I have Stockton 15x9's for my 33x12.50r15 BFG mudders. BFG is the only company I have found that makes the 33x9.50 in a mud terrain tread. Interco has a 33x10.50. I know people with 31x10.50s on stock rims, but again you should go to a wider rim with these tires. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:59:51 -0400 From: artbitt@netscape.net Subject: LRO: RE: Tires - oops - Tyres White in - white out-who cares? After a good strenuous off road trip in some rocks, the white letters are gone-no matter what side they are mounted! Curbs do a good job at removing them also! Art Bitterman 1960 SII "Aardvark" (with black, scraped, muddy sidewalls) - -- Art Bitterman __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:03:05 -0400 From: artbitt@netscape.net Subject: LRO: RE:Optima battery anyone? Good price That is a good price! My red top cost me $139 3 years ago. Still going strong! But, of course having said that, it'll be deader than a doornail tomorow! Art Bitterman 1960 SII"Aardvark" - -- Art Bitterman __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:16:48 -1000 From: "Peter Ogilvie" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres The 33/9.50/15's are one inch, according to specs, larger in diameter than the 7.50/235x85/16's, otherwise 33" vice 32". Looking at the 9.50's in 15" size, they look to be slightly wider than the 235/85s. What is the advantage to running wider rims with tires. I can see the advantage of running narrow rims to have the tires protect the rims by the extra side wall bulge. Just curious what wider rims do for tires. Is it greater side loading, wider footprint, or what?? Aloha Peter O >From: "Hope Peter" >Reply-To: lro@works.team.net >To: >Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres >Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:47:46 -1000 > > > There's no need at all to switch rim sizes. Just get a set of 33x9.5R15 > > tires. They're slightly larger than 235/85/16 but not significantly so >and > > they should work just as well. > > > >33x9.50r15 will fit on the stock rims, but you really should go to a 7 to >7.5 wide rim. You can get these from many places in England or Stockton >wheel in Stockton California. >I have Stockton 15x9's for my 33x12.50r15 BFG mudders. > >BFG is the only company I have found that makes the 33x9.50 in a mud >terrain >tread. Interco has a 33x10.50. I know people with 31x10.50s on stock >rims, >but again you should go to a wider rim with these tires. >Pete > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:43:18 -0400 From: "KURT W. KRAUSS" Subject: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres So is it the consensus that I leave the two BF Goodrich ATs on, turn them around to white lettering is on inside, switch 'em to the back (so they are turning the same direction as originally mounted) but turn them around and order three more? While I crave originality, I also like to be practical and save some bucks in the meantime. Kurt Krauss 1973 NAS SIII - -- ==== Sender: Kurt W. 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Thank you for your cooperation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:20:40 -0400 From: Keith Tanner Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres One thing to remember - if you get 5 tires so you've got a decent spare, having the white lettering on the inside of the rim will mean it's on the outside (when mounted on the rear door) or on top (bonnet) on the spare. Of course, if you have the spare tire mounted on the rim so that it doesn't show white, it'll be the wrong way around when you rotate tires. Oh, my head hurts now. I went with Firestone RMTs in 235/85-16 on Basil - we'll find out how well they work at the BP. They sure look the bizness. Keith - ------------ Keith's page de home: http://keith.miata.net - ------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:23:10 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In that case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them instead of my MTs. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 15:44:22 -0600 From: Rick Grant Subject: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers I know that this isn't a biggie in the grand scheme of Land Roverdom but I wonder if there is a simple way of slowing down my wind screen wipers or even installing a wiper delay switch of some sort. I have the self contained individually switched units common to SII's. In anything less than a moderate rain I find that they are much too fast. Switching them off and on while driving is quite a distraction. I could link both to a simple switch on the dash with no problem but what I would really like is something that would also allow me to slow them down, sort of like how a house light dimmer switch works. There are much more serious things I should be concerned about with my machine but a slight two day break in what has been shaping up to be the worst drought in 150 years in this area has focused my attention on the wipers. Rick Grant 1959 Series II "88" VORIZO Rick Grant Communications Media and Crisis Management Calgary Ottawa www.rickgrant.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2001 15:08:35 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Check JC Whitney and the like for a delay switch that you can wire into the circuit. I installed one on my 72 GMC pickup that had a variable delay on the switch body. You could probably wire both motors to the same switch if you were crafty. Bryan On Tue, 05 June 2001, Rick Grant wrote: > > I know that this isn't a biggie in the grand scheme of Land Roverdom but I > wonder if there is a simple way of slowing down my wind screen wipers or > even installing a wiper delay switch of some sort. > > I have the self contained individually switched units common to SII's. > > In anything less than a moderate rain I find that they are much too > fast. Switching them off and on while driving is quite a distraction. > > I could link both to a simple switch on the dash with no problem but what I > would really like is something that would also allow me to slow them down, > sort of like how a house light dimmer switch works. > > There are much more serious things I should be concerned about with my > machine but a slight two day break in what has been shaping up to be the > worst drought in 150 years in this area has focused my attention on the wipers. > > > > > Rick Grant > > 1959 Series II "88" > VORIZO > > > > Rick Grant Communications > Media and Crisis Management > Calgary Ottawa > www.rickgrant.com ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2001 15:08:36 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Check JC Whitney and the like for a delay switch that you can wire into the circuit. I installed one on my 72 GMC pickup that had a variable delay on the switch body. You could probably wire both motors to the same switch if you were crafty. Bryan On Tue, 05 June 2001, Rick Grant wrote: > > I know that this isn't a biggie in the grand scheme of Land Roverdom but I > wonder if there is a simple way of slowing down my wind screen wipers or > even installing a wiper delay switch of some sort. > > I have the self contained individually switched units common to SII's. > > In anything less than a moderate rain I find that they are much too > fast. Switching them off and on while driving is quite a distraction. > > I could link both to a simple switch on the dash with no problem but what I > would really like is something that would also allow me to slow them down, > sort of like how a house light dimmer switch works. > > There are much more serious things I should be concerned about with my > machine but a slight two day break in what has been shaping up to be the > worst drought in 150 years in this area has focused my attention on the wipers. > > > > > Rick Grant > > 1959 Series II "88" > VORIZO > > > > Rick Grant Communications > Media and Crisis Management > Calgary Ottawa > www.rickgrant.com ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:06:30 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres > switch 'em to the back (so > they are turning the same direction as originally mounted) but turn them > around BFG's are non-directional. It is actually a good idea to rotate them so that the direcion of rotation does change to ensure consistant wear. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:13:49 -0400 From: "Scott Wickham Jr." Subject: LRO: RE: Engine run up I realize that without the tranny on, there is no load on the crank shaft, and that this can cause a problem in some cars. Any suggestions would be appreciated, I've done it before. I woldn't run it for 3 hours but, I think it's ok. Scooter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:26:07 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > What is the advantage to running wider rims with tires. I can see the > advantage of running narrow rims to have the tires protect the rims by the > extra side wall bulge. Just curious what wider rims do for tires. Is it > greater side loading, wider footprint, or what?? > > Aloha > Peter O > It can be a safety issue, if the rim is too narrow it can cause to much of a side wall buldge and run the risk of popping a bead. Also you get a lot of lateral flex (side loading), true the Rover isn't going to be running 100mph across the sadle road, but you can still get some sway building up that could cause a roll over situation. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:17:24 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers AHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahahaha Good one Rick, you crack me up. Too fast...hehehehehe...what a joker. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:47:56 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Santana brakes from Canada? So then all you friendly northerners can order them and sell them to us.;) N Forbes wrote: > > >Somebody mentioned a Santana disk brake set up from Can.for $720. > >Who do you order this from?? > >Thanks in advance, > >Aaron > >69 2a 88 > > No one is selling them in Canada. It's just that they'll ship it to us > 'cause they're not worried about getting sued by us. You still have to order > from TI Console. > > Niall Forbes > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > "See the happy moron, > He doesn't give a damn. > I wish I were a moron. > My God! Perhaps I am!" > --author unknown > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:49:41 -0600 From: Rick Grant Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers At 23:17 05/06/01 +0000, N Forbes, wrote >Too fast...hehehehehe...what a joker. As god is my witness, er perhaps not, but really it's all Al Richer's fault. I followed his "How to Rebuild Wiper Motors article and now they work at Warp 2 See. . .http://www.lrfaq.org/Series/FAQ.S.wipermotors.html Rick Grant 1959 Series II "88" VORIZO Rick Grant Communications Media and Crisis Management Calgary Ottawa www.rickgrant.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 17:59:35 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: help needed--off topic I would think that most if not all fuel injection systems would have a pressure regulator built in, especially if there is a return line. My Holly Pro-Jection does as it's supposed to run at 15 psi while the pump puts out 30. BTW, single barrel webbers don't like 30 psi, just ask Mitch. William J. Rice wrote: > > I bought a '67 Mercedes 250SE sedan (for about half what my new chassis > cost!) to drive around while the frameover was in progress. > > The MB list I'm on has been most unhelpful so I thought I'd turn to you > guys and your general wizardry with things automotive. > > Fuel pump recently died on it (bosch mechanical fuel > injection--petrol--with an electric pump near the tank). > > Replacement: $400 > > Obviously I'm loathe to put about 1/3 of what I paid for the thing into a > new fuel pump. My question is this: can I buy a generic fuel pump? > I've been told it'll need to generate 22 psi. I believe this is about > what most fuel-injected cars require and so most generic pups should > generate it, but I'm not sure. > > Would there be special issues w/ the mechanical injection that would > require me to put a pressure regulator in the line? > > Anyone want to buy a very cool old mercedes cheap? > > bill - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 14:42:33 -1000 From: "Peter Ogilvie" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres How are you supposed to rotate radial tires. Back in the dark ages we were told to only rotate front to back so the tires always rolled in the same direction. Ply separation was 'sposed to result if the rotation got turned around, hear that Firestone. Bias plies had that rather complex rotation of front to back with crossover and one into trunk that I never could commit to memory. Anyway, are we 'sposed to rotate side to side as well as front to back with radials, now?? If we are, why is it suddenly okay with radials?? I had ply separation when I did the old style bias rotation with my first set of radials. Aloha Peter O >From: "Hope Peter" >Reply-To: lro@works.team.net >To: >Subject: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:06:30 -1000 > > > switch 'em to the back (so > > they are turning the same direction as originally mounted) but turn them > > around > >BFG's are non-directional. It is actually a good idea to rotate them so >that the direcion of rotation does change to ensure consistant wear. >Pete > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:17:15 -0700 From: Tony McCauley Subject: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:35:39 -0700 >From: "Gerry Elam" >Subject: LRO: disc brakes conversion? >Anyone done TI Console's disc brake conversion? Sometime less than a year ago, someone on this list asked if anyone was interested in a disk brake conversion for series trucks. I believe he was in Canada, and that he was talking about making the necessary bits to allow the conversion using Ford truck parts. Of course I've lost his name. Was this all a dream, or is this someones project that is still alive? Tony McCauley '71 IIA (origional owner) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:31:07 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Santana brakes from Canada? >So then all you friendly northerners can order them and sell them to >us.;) Sure, only $720 US ;-) Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:46 -0600 From: "Andy Pease" Subject: LRO: Bikini top for Series III I have a 1974 SIII 88 Lightweight and am looking for a bikini top for it. I've been looking around the Internet, but haven't had much luck locating one. Does anybody have any ideas? TIA, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:42:26 -0400 From: "RON WARD" Subject: LRO: Rochester I'd like to make the conversion from the stock Slex carb set up on my 1965 IIa 88" and need some help. Part number, supplier, linkage modification to make it work? I have rebuild kit for the Solex and will try the sanding of mating surfaces and all, but if I can save trouble in the long run by converting I will. Anyone? Thanks in advance Ron Ward '65 IIa 88" '95 RR Classic SWB (ex-EAS) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:54:49 EDT From: Sjust1925@aol.com Subject: Re: LRO: Bikini top for Series III - --part1_6d.15102701.284ef579_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try http://www.badgercoachworks.com/ - --part1_6d.15102701.284ef579_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try
http://www.badgercoachworks.com/ - --part1_6d.15102701.284ef579_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:57:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Rick Grant wrote: :At 23:17 05/06/01 +0000, N Forbes, wrote : :>Too fast...hehehehehe...what a joker. : :As god is my witness, er perhaps not, but really it's all Al Richer's :fault. I followed his "How to Rebuild Wiper Motors article and now they :work at Warp 2 Rain-X. You won't need to turn them on at less than a downpour. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2001 20:17:20 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Our young friend J-L is the aspiring engineer with the disc brake dream. I for one, am still anxious to put money in his pocket for what sounded to me like a very promising idea. Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" - -both disc brakeless- On Sun, 03 June 2001, Tony McCauley wrote: > > > >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:35:39 -0700 > >From: "Gerry Elam" > >Subject: LRO: disc brakes conversion? > > >Anyone done TI Console's disc brake conversion? > > Sometime less than a year ago, someone on this list asked if anyone was > interested in a disk brake conversion for series trucks. I believe he was > in Canada, and that he was talking about making the necessary bits to allow > the conversion using Ford truck parts. Of course I've lost his name. Was > this all a dream, or is this someones project that is still alive? > > Tony McCauley > '71 IIA (origional owner) ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:02:10 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres Niall, BFG AT's? Ewww, EwWwWw. WORST off road tire I've seen, period. The tight tread gets packed up with crud, and unless you drive a V8, your series rig will never put out enough wheel spin to clean them out. On top of that, they cost a fortune, and (gulp) can be had on stock Jeeps! They do have some advantages, though. They are definitely a good road tire, and in a case where roadability is of primary concern, they might be a good choice. They should be pretty good in sand... They seem to be the hot ticket on Jeeps with expensive alloy wheels, which in my mind rings a very loud alarm bell. J-L - ----- Original Message ----- From: N Forbes To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In that > case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted > white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them > instead of my MTs. > > Niall Forbes > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > "See the happy moron, > He doesn't give a damn. > I wish I were a moron. > My God! Perhaps I am!" > --author unknown > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:05:29 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Uhh. Sorry, all you folks hoping out there. Disc brake kit has been on the back burner for quite some time. I'm going range rover axles, baby! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Hoult To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion > Our young friend J-L is the aspiring engineer with the disc brake dream. I for one, am still anxious to put money in his pocket for what sounded to me like a very promising idea. > > Bryan > 62 88 > 70 109 "Genie" > -both disc brakeless- > > > On Sun, 03 June 2001, Tony McCauley wrote: > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:35:39 -0700 > > >From: "Gerry Elam" > > >Subject: LRO: disc brakes conversion? > > > > >Anyone done TI Console's disc brake conversion? > > > > Sometime less than a year ago, someone on this list asked if anyone was > > interested in a disk brake conversion for series trucks. I believe he was > > in Canada, and that he was talking about making the necessary bits to allow > > the conversion using Ford truck parts. Of course I've lost his name. Was > > this all a dream, or is this someones project that is still alive? > > > > Tony McCauley > > '71 IIA (origional owner) > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:00:42 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres > How are you supposed to rotate radial tires. Back in the dark ages we were > told to only rotate front to back so the tires always rolled in the same > direction. Ply separation was 'sposed to result if the rotation got turned > around, hear that Firestone. Bias plies had that rather complex rotation of > front to back with crossover and one into trunk that I never could commit to > memory. Anyway, are we 'sposed to rotate side to side as well as front to > back with radials, now?? If we are, why is it suddenly okay with radials?? > I had ply separation when I did the old style bias rotation with my first > set of radials. > > Aloha > Peter O All of my info is 5-10 years old now, but all of the manufactures back then recomended the cross rotation you mentioned. for a four wheel rotation it's |x|. Fronts to same side rear. Rears crossed to the front. With a five tire rotation pick a corner, I like right rear. Throw right rear in trunk, put spare in it's place (don't bolt on) then do the 4 wheel cross rotation. We had customers out in western Virgina (not West by God) that still used bias, but they were few and far between. Majority of our customers were radial buyers. Radial seperations were pretty uncommon. The ones I remember were driven until the tread was about gone. I saw this in some of the firestone tread pictures I saw from last summer. The blowouts were about bald. I saw plenty that had tons of tread left, so not making any sort of judgement based on this :-) As to recomended, I have always been told to cross radials and that bias plys were a no cross. Take a look at some warrenty info http://www.bridgestone-usa.com/warranty/warr8.htm Other manufacturers have similar stuff. Pete H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:19:28 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres I know I'm insane, but... Has anyone ever had an experience putting a 33 or 35X12.5X15 on stock rover 15" wheels? I know it's stupid, I know it's going to look like a balloon, but it's only for off-road use, occasional road, mostly putting around town, getting to the local trails. I have a set of good wheels and tires with a good road pattern for winter and highway use. The muds are for exactly that. The turning radius is not an issue as I am going to RR axles. www.bluebeastrover.com He seems to be running big old interco swampers on what appears to be stock rover 15" wheels. I suspect my 35" tires will be an even better fit, as there is more sidewall... Any first hand experiences with this insanity? Another idea I had, after looking at drag race cars, is to screw the tire into the rim. Racers use small hex head screws, about 5/8" in length, screw them through the outer lip of the rim, into the tire, to hold it up against the rim, kind of like a poor man's beadlock. Any opinions on this? J-L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:04:59 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: Re: Re: disk brakes conversion Already have heard from J-L. But someone that has done some disk conversion work using wildwood components is Timm Cooper. Not sure how to contact him, others on the list may speak up. Pete ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:14:50 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Oh well, it was easier than hoping I'd ever figure them out myself. Good luck with the RR axles. Everyone seems to like them that has put them under their series rig. Too bad they weren't a hair narrower. Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" On Tue, 05 June 2001, "Jean-Leon Morin" wrote: > > Uhh. Sorry, all you folks hoping out there. Disc brake kit has been on the > back burner for quite some time. I'm going range rover axles, baby! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bryan Hoult > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:17 PM > Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion > > > > Our young friend J-L is the aspiring engineer with the disc brake dream. > I for one, am still anxious to put money in his pocket for what sounded to > me like a very promising idea. > > > > Bryan > > 62 88 > > 70 109 "Genie" > > -both disc brakeless- > > > > > > On Sun, 03 June 2001, Tony McCauley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:35:39 -0700 > > > >From: "Gerry Elam" > > > >Subject: LRO: disc brakes conversion? > > > > > > >Anyone done TI Console's disc brake conversion? > > > > > > Sometime less than a year ago, someone on this list asked if anyone was > > > interested in a disk brake conversion for series trucks. I believe he > was > > > in Canada, and that he was talking about making the necessary bits to > allow > > > the conversion using Ford truck parts. Of course I've lost his name. Was > > > this all a dream, or is this someones project that is still alive? > > > > > > Tony McCauley > > > '71 IIA (origional owner) > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:36:50 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres 33x12.5 are too wide for stock rims. I have some 9" that work perfect. 33x9.5 will work on stock, barely. pete www.aloharovers.com > > Has anyone ever had an experience putting a 33 or 35X12.5X15 on stock rover > 15" wheels? I know it's stupid, I know it's going to look like a balloon, ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:02:35 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Re: disk brakes conversion Some day, Ike, who bought his rover, is supposed to take pictures of the disk brake setup for me. Hope Peter wrote: > > Already have heard from J-L. But someone that has done some disk conversion > work using wildwood components is Timm Cooper. Not sure how to contact him, > others on the list may speak up. > Pete - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:03:24 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: help needed--off topic On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Jim Hall wrote: :I would think that most if not all fuel injection systems would have a :pressure regulator built in, especially if there is a return line. My :Holly Pro-Jection does as it's supposed to run at 15 psi while the pump :puts out 30. BTW, single barrel webbers don't like 30 psi, just ask :Mitch. The other thing to consider when fitting a pump is flow capacity. Wide-open throttle takes lots of gas. Make sure the pump is big enough. Oh, 2bbl webers dont' care for too much fuel presure either! - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:07:33 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres They are also one of the few tires with 3 ply sidewalls, and were the first one with it. They are a good on/off road tire, but of course there are much better pure off-road tires. Jean-Leon Morin wrote: > > Niall, BFG AT's? > > Ewww, EwWwWw. > > WORST off road tire I've seen, period. The tight tread gets packed up with > crud, and unless you drive a V8, your series rig will never put out enough > wheel spin to clean them out. On top of that, they cost a fortune, and > (gulp) can be had on stock Jeeps! > > They do have some advantages, though. They are definitely a good road tire, > and in a case where roadability is of primary concern, they might be a good > choice. They should be pretty good in sand... > > They seem to be the hot ticket on Jeeps with expensive alloy wheels, which > in my mind rings a very loud alarm bell. > > J-L > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N Forbes > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > > > What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In > that > > case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted > > white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them > > instead of my MTs. > > > > Niall Forbes > > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > > > "See the happy moron, > > He doesn't give a damn. > > I wish I were a moron. > > My God! Perhaps I am!" > > --author unknown > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:10:48 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres I asked about this years ago. A long time ago, tread separation would result if they didn't stay rotating in the same direction I was told, but that it wasn't an issue now due to better technology. Peter Ogilvie wrote: > > How are you supposed to rotate radial tires. Back in the dark ages we were > told to only rotate front to back so the tires always rolled in the same > direction. Ply separation was 'sposed to result if the rotation got turned > around, hear that Firestone. Bias plies had that rather complex rotation of > front to back with crossover and one into trunk that I never could commit to > memory. Anyway, are we 'sposed to rotate side to side as well as front to > back with radials, now?? If we are, why is it suddenly okay with radials?? > I had ply separation when I did the old style bias rotation with my first > set of radials. > > Aloha > Peter O > > >From: "Hope Peter" > >Reply-To: lro@works.team.net > >To: > >Subject: LRO: Re: Tires - oops - Tyres > >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 00:06:30 -1000 > > > > > switch 'em to the back (so > > > they are turning the same direction as originally mounted) but turn them > > > around > > > >BFG's are non-directional. It is actually a good idea to rotate them so > >that the direcion of rotation does change to ensure consistant wear. > >Pete > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 23:12:53 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: source for generator screws? Did you find genny screws yet? I may have some if not. I'm just not sure if mine are from a c-40. Matthew Wilson wrote: > > Firstoff, belated thanks to those listmembers that gave me advice on sealing > the sph. I now have the thing apart again, but I'm puzzled as to why the > seal is a little loose in there. I tried an AB and an RN (genuine) seal, > both have the same wobble...I wonder if the housing is deformed > somehow...strange. > > Next question, I rebuilt the generator (Lucas c-40) over the weekend. I > cobbled together one that spins freely from the remains of mine and another > collection of parts. However, while disassembling mine, I broke those two > long screws that go through the generator body and hold the end brackets > together. Does anyone have a spare two that they would be willing to part > with? > > Thanks, > Matthew - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ End of LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #397 ********************************************** From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Wed Jun 6 13:05:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56H5nN19927 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:05:49 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f56G3iZ14834 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f56G3iW14831 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@[216.35.192.58]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13336 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f56Fr6308685 for lro-gone; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:53:06 -0400 Received: from ozark.pinn.net (ozark.pinn.net [198.252.201.18]) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56Fr3608681 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:53:03 -0400 Received: from sandygri (orf-max-7-59.pinn.net [216.9.73.59]) by ozark.pinn.net (8.11.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id f56FnqI04264 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010606102303.0068b27c@pinn.net> X-Sender: rover@pinn.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:56:59 -0400 To: lro-digest@works.team.net From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" Subject: LRO: Rain-X Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-lro@works.team.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lro@works.team.net X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi David Scheidt wrote: >Rain-X. You won't need to turn them on at less than a downpour. Ahh, yes, Rain-X. Excellent product. With the steep angle of the Rover's windscreen, wipers *get in the way* of runoff even in heavy downpours. The only time Rain-X doesn't work is in very light mist or drizzle.... BTW, the JC Whitless time delay does not work on the Rover. BTDT...blew a fuse. Indeed, the only fuse I've ever blown. Still running with *original* Lucas fuses 30 years later.... Cheers *-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----* | A. P. "Sandy" Grice | | The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | 757-622-7054 (H)423-4898 (FAX)757-622-7056 | *------------------------------------------------------* From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Wed Jun 6 16:25:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f56KPVN20653 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:25:31 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f56JNP321255 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f56JN7W21252 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@[216.35.192.58]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04709 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f56IPZP11531 for lro-digest-gone; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:25:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:25:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200106061825.f56IPZP11531@works.team.net> From: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *) To: lro-digest@works.team.net Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #398 Reply-To: lro-digest@works.team.net Sender: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Errors-To: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Precedence: bulk X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Wednesday, June 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 398 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:36:14 EDT From: Eyekelly@aol.com Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres - --part1_d.15c32126.284f295e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may live in Los Angeles, but I too drive my Landy on tyres. Ian Kelly 1970 Series IIA - --part1_d.15c32126.284f295e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may live in Los Angeles, but I too drive my Landy on tyres.

Ian Kelly

1970 Series IIA - --part1_d.15c32126.284f295e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:28:37 EDT From: Eyekelly@aol.com Subject: Re: LRO: brakes brakes and more brakes. - --part1_bc.159297a9.284f35a5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do check that your brake drums are round - I had the same problem a year or so ago and the problem was traced to a brake drum being oval. Cheers, Ian 1970 Series IIa - --part1_bc.159297a9.284f35a5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do check that your brake drums are round - I had the same problem a year or
so ago and the problem was traced to a brake drum being oval.

Cheers,

Ian

1970 Series IIa - --part1_bc.159297a9.284f35a5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:15:58 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Re: Delay switch: Sorry - standard delay switch won't work with the Series wiper motor. These gadgets rely on the "parking" switch on the motor to do their cycle, as all they do is switch a pulse of DC power to the motor to get it off the park position, then the motor does the rest all by itself. The Series II/IIa wiper motor doesn't have that facility - there's no park circuit. Yes, you can add that too, but it would be an annoying fiddly job at best to get it to work and aligned. If you want to slow it down a resistor in series with the field winding is likely the best bet - that would reduce the motor speed, but those motors are pretty marginal performers at best - with a dry windshield you're likely going to get stalling on start . Were I you I'd not worry about it....just my .02... -ajr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:39:24 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers >but really it's all Al Richer's >fault. Gee - thanks a lot, Rick.....8*) Seriously, though, you did put grease in the gearcase, right? Hmmm....Y'know, if you were at all electronically inclined (and it doesn't take all that much to do) I'd think about a PWM speed control for it. Plans for them are easy to come by - I just finished designing one for a model-railroading friend of mine and I basically pirated one I found on the Web. The model railroaders use them on small DC motors all the time - instead of varying the voltage to the motor (which loses you torque) you vary the duty cycle by switching off the source current with a MOSFET at a high rate (~10Khz). This way uou get full torque but less speed. Come to think of it, that would work REALLY well in this application.... ajr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:06:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tom Rowe" Subject: Re: LRO: RE:Optima battery anyone? Good price On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 16:03:05 -0400, artbitt@netscape.net wrote: >That is a good price! >My red top cost me $139 3 years ago. >Still going strong! >But, of course having said that, it'll be deader than a doornail tomorow! Some people never learn ;-) Tom Rowe Atlanta, GA Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tom Rowe" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:15:58 -0400, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus wrote: >Sorry - standard delay switch won't work with the Series wiper motor. These >gadgets rely on the "parking" switch on the motor to do their cycle, as all >they do is switch a pulse of DC power to the motor to get it off the park >position, then the motor does the rest all by itself. Snip I have a delay switch that doesn't work that way. In fact I have a couple of them. Got them at TrakAuto (are they still in business in the DC area anyone?). I'll see if I can find one of them to get a name and PN. I used one for a number of years in an old VW bus. Never got around to putting one in my Rover. As I recall it didn't do intermittent, just delay, from full on, to somehting like once every 5 seconds. It's a small box, about 1 1/2" square and 3 inches long. An on/off switch and a slider to control the delay. Cheers Tom Rowe Atlanta, GA Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:23:43 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: LRO: Speed control for wiper motrors (PWM) Here is a schecmatic, parts list , PCB etching diagram and all the rest for a ready-designed pulse width modulator for 12 or 24 volt applications (for you military types with too-fast wipers ). Go have a look at: http://www.humboldt1.com/~michael.welch/extras/pwmhp75.pdf This is an article by G. Forrest Cook for Home Power magazine. The components as listed here should do the job nicely if the circuit is built in a small metal box and the MOSFET is heat-sinked to it. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:56:36 -0400 From: Bill Adams Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Yes, Trak Auto is still in business ( still owned by the Hafts and Robert Sr's hairdo ) and they still suck. - -- Bill Adams 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director International Broadcasting Bureau Washington, D.C. 202-205-9638 badams@ibb.gov '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel '81 GoldWing '69 Le Sabre Convertible '63 Pearson Vanguard "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:45:35 -0400 From: "Tackley, John" Subject: RE: LRO: Re: Re: disk brakes conversion You guys want pics of the TIC Series front disc brake conversion??? My truck is still on jackstands with front wheels off after having just completed same..."simply ask and thou shall recieve..." JT/ric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: disk brakes conversion Some day, Ike, who bought his rover, is supposed to take pictures of the disk brake setup for me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 07:02:32 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Re: disk brakes conversion Sure, I'll take some. Tackley, John wrote: > > You guys want pics of the TIC Series front disc brake conversion??? > My truck is still on jackstands with front wheels off after having just > completed same..."simply ask and thou shall recieve..." > > JT/ric > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Re: disk brakes conversion > > Some day, Ike, who bought his rover, is supposed to take pictures of > the disk brake setup for me. - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:23:04 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers > Check JC Whitney and the like for a delay switch that you can wire into > the circuit. I installed one on my 72 GMC pickup that had a variable > delay on the switch body. You could probably wire both motors to the same > switch if you were crafty. > > Bryan > > > Problem is the wipers won't run at the same speed and don't self park so they will be stopping between wipes at random positions on the windscreen. This may be more annoying than manually switching on and off. Perhaps you could use a photo-transistor or limit switch to sense the blade position and make them self parking. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:25:58 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Sorry guys. JL just managed to broker a deal where he got RR running gear. That means he has ceased all development on his disc brake plan ssince he's got ready made dick brakes now. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:29:27 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres >Niall, BFG AT's? > >Ewww, EwWwWw. > ;-) True, they're not as good off-road as a dedicated mud tire but I think they're decent for light off-roading. The only place they would really suck would be clay or deep mud. The difference is they're way better on the road and will last for a long time. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:26:55 -0400 From: "RON WARD" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres Isn't the BFG AT stock on NAS D90? >>> offroaddesign@softhome.net 06/06/01 12:02AM >>> Niall, BFG AT's? Ewww, EwWwWw. WORST off road tire I've seen, period. The tight tread gets packed up with crud, and unless you drive a V8, your series rig will never put out enough wheel spin to clean them out. On top of that, they cost a fortune, and (gulp) can be had on stock Jeeps! They do have some advantages, though. They are definitely a good road tire, and in a case where roadability is of primary concern, they might be a good choice. They should be pretty good in sand... They seem to be the hot ticket on Jeeps with expensive alloy wheels, which in my mind rings a very loud alarm bell. J-L - ----- Original Message ----- From: N Forbes To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In that > case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted > white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them > instead of my MTs. > > Niall Forbes > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > "See the happy moron, > He doesn't give a damn. > I wish I were a moron. > My God! Perhaps I am!" > --author unknown > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:34:30 -0400 From: Matt Peckham Subject: RE: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres Probably because a few years ago, it was the best they could put on a vehicle and still appeal to a broad range of clientelle. That and the durn lawyers. Matt Peckham 74 Lightweight. _____ ||===||| | \ _||___|||__|__\_{EE}_ | ____ ____ \ | / \ / \|) [||( () )\_____|( () )[ ] ~~~~\~~/~~~~~~~~~\~~/~~~~~~~~~ www.crossmember.com - -----Original Message----- From: RON WARD [mailto:ronward@synovustrust.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:27 AM To: lro@Works.Team.Net Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres Isn't the BFG AT stock on NAS D90? >>> offroaddesign@softhome.net 06/06/01 12:02AM >>> Niall, BFG AT's? Ewww, EwWwWw. WORST off road tire I've seen, period. The tight tread gets packed up with crud, and unless you drive a V8, your series rig will never put out enough wheel spin to clean them out. On top of that, they cost a fortune, and (gulp) can be had on stock Jeeps! They do have some advantages, though. They are definitely a good road tire, and in a case where roadability is of primary concern, they might be a good choice. They should be pretty good in sand... They seem to be the hot ticket on Jeeps with expensive alloy wheels, which in my mind rings a very loud alarm bell. J-L - ----- Original Message ----- From: N Forbes To: Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In that > case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted > white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them > instead of my MTs. > > Niall Forbes > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > "See the happy moron, > He doesn't give a damn. > I wish I were a moron. > My God! Perhaps I am!" > --author unknown > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: DaveB Subject: LRO: Hilton Head Island I'll be in Hilton head, SC for a week starting this friday. Any LRO's there or nearby who might want to meet up? Also anybody care to offer opinons (no, not *this* group) as to whether it's worth driving the 109 down there? I'm trying to figure out if there's likely to be any need for it. I'm guessing not as I prefer the water over the interstates... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:04:55 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres J-L wrote > Another idea I had, after looking at drag race cars, is to screw the tire > into the rim. Racers use small hex head screws, about 5/8" in length, > screw > them through the outer lip of the rim, into the tire, to hold it up > against > the rim, kind of like a poor man's beadlock. Any opinions on this? > This method is also used by the swamp crowd as a beadlock for running low pressures. I wonder how an moisture curing polyurethane adhesive would work? Basically stick the bead to the rim. I might make it a bitch to remove though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:20:32 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers > The model railroaders use them on small DC motors all the time - instead > of > varying the voltage to the motor (which loses you torque) you vary the > duty > cycle by switching off the source current with a MOSFET at a high rate > (~10Khz). This way uou get full torque but less speed. > > Come to think of it, that would work REALLY well in this application.... > > ajr But you still really need a park position. I just had the inspiration. Put a small hall effect device inside the gearbox to sense the crank position. When the crank is not in the park position turn the motor on. Now all the speed control needs to do is switch on long enough for a couple of wipes. by varying the delay time from infinity down to zero the wipers can be switched to operate anywhere from off to full on. At the end of each on pulse the wipers will find the park position and turn themselves off. The wper motor will remain extenally stock except for three additional small wires for the HED and the controller can be secreted somewhere that won't affect the originallity of the truck and spoil your chances of a concours trophy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:25:12 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: LRO: Rangie Fuel Pump The fuel pump on the Rangie died this morning in rush hour traffic. Not sure whether its the pump or wiring yet. Just so I'm ready what is the GM or generic UAP/NAPA pump part number. Or is there a suitable alternative for a weber equipped Rangie. The existing set up has a tank return from the filter because the injection system fuel pump makes too much pressure. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:37:27 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Luis_Ml_Guti=E9rrez?= Subject: RE: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres We always end up being the cause of all problems, directly or indirectly. I already stopped careing about it. :-) Luis M. (definetly overworked !) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Peckham To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: RE: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > Probably because a few years ago, it was the best they could put on a > vehicle and still appeal to a broad range of clientelle. That and the durn > lawyers. > > Matt Peckham > 74 Lightweight. > _____ > ||===||| | \ > _||___|||__|__\_{EE}_ > | ____ ____ \ > | / \ / \|) > [||( () )\_____|( () )[ ] > ~~~~\~~/~~~~~~~~~\~~/~~~~~~~~~ > > www.crossmember.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RON WARD [mailto:ronward@synovustrust.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:27 AM > To: lro@Works.Team.Net > Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > > > Isn't the BFG AT stock on NAS D90? > > >>> offroaddesign@softhome.net 06/06/01 12:02AM >>> > Niall, BFG AT's? > > Ewww, EwWwWw. > > WORST off road tire I've seen, period. The tight tread gets packed up with > crud, and unless you drive a V8, your series rig will never put out enough > wheel spin to clean them out. On top of that, they cost a fortune, and > (gulp) can be had on stock Jeeps! > > They do have some advantages, though. They are definitely a good road tire, > and in a case where roadability is of primary concern, they might be a good > choice. They should be pretty good in sand... > > They seem to be the hot ticket on Jeeps with expensive alloy wheels, which > in my mind rings a very loud alarm bell. > > J-L > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N Forbes > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: LRO: Tires - oops - Tyres > > > > What?!?!?! You already have two BFG ATs ?!?! I didn't realise that. In > that > > case, yes, absolutely you should get two more and have them all mounted > > white lettering in. They really are a great tire. Wish I'd gone with them > > instead of my MTs. > > > > Niall Forbes > > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > > > "See the happy moron, > > He doesn't give a damn. > > I wish I were a moron. > > My God! Perhaps I am!" > > --author unknown > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 19/05/01 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:48:09 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers > But you still really need a park position. Trevor, the PWM just varies the power to the motor to vary its speed - it still runs continuously. This doesn't provide intermittent wiper, but slower wiper. Parking? Like I want that thing in my field of view when it's not running? 8*) ajr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:00:12 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Niall, not sure what you think is going on in my shop, but I can assure you the brake assembly you are describing I have not yet noticed on the rangie axles... I can plainly see discs, but I fail to notice anything resembling any part of the very male anatomy on the range rover.. ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: N Forbes To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:25 AM Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion > Sorry guys. JL just managed to broker a deal where he got RR running gear. > That means he has ceased all development on his disc brake plan ssince he's > got ready made dick brakes now. > > Niall Forbes > 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia > The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm > > "See the happy moron, > He doesn't give a damn. > I wish I were a moron. > My God! Perhaps I am!" > --author unknown > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: DaveB Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers - --- Easton Trevor A wrote: > > ajr > But you still really need a park position. > I just had the inspiration. Put a small hall effect device inside > the gearbox to sense the crank position. When the crank is not in the > park > position turn the motor on. once a month, apply rain-x to the windshield, following the directions on the bottle. you won't need your wipers except at night in heavy rain with oncoming headlights, or with cars behind you shining their headlights onto the inside of your windscreen. In a series rover, no one is behind you for long anyway. but I know you guys just like talking about this stuff. I have one of two motors working, so I guess I'll have to rebuild one, to pass inpsection. Or take it off entirely and try to convince them to let it pass with only one. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:15:44 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers The idea with the park position sensor, is that the intermittent wipe is achieved by a PWM with a variable frequency in the O to .5Hz and a variable mark space ratio between 0 and 100%. . Thus .1 hz at 50% would give 5 secs on and 5 secs off, at 10% would give 1 sec on 9 secs off. at 100% always on at 0% always off. etc > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [SMTP:Alan_Richer@Lotus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:48 AM > To: lro > Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers > > > > But you still really need a park position. > > Trevor, the PWM just varies the power to the motor to vary its speed - it > still runs continuously. This doesn't provide intermittent wiper, but > slower wiper. > > Parking? Like I want that thing in my field of view when it's not running? > 8*) > > ajr > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:38:24 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers The idea with the park position sensor, is that the intermittent wipe is achieved by a PWM with a variable frequency in the O to .5Hz and a variable mark space ratio between 0 and 100%. . Thus .1 hz at 50% would give 5 secs on and 5 secs off, at 10% would give 1 sec on 9 secs off. at 100% always on at 0% always off. etc You work too hard - that can easily be achieved with a simple timer circuit outputting a fixed-duration pulse at a variable timing window. With the park position available as you say, a simple relay-driving pulser would do the job here. a 555 set up as an astable multivibrator would be just the ticket... aj"Tech weenies R. Us"r ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:46:49 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion >I can plainly see discs, but I fail to notice anything resembling >any part of the very male anatomy on the range rover.. Thanks for clearing that up JL. I was confused--I assumed Niall was commenting on some sort of braking system attached to your anatomy for purposes unknown to "normal" folk--or perhaps a system utilizing your anatomy to bring several tons of rolling metal to a halt. The latter sounds like a disfunctional use of that equipment and also like it might result in premature wear and tear. (*OUCH*) And I was kind of wondering how Niall found out about it. ;-) jab - -- Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== I believe in heavy thinking, I believe in heavy sound, I believe in heavy images, To hold it all down. --Chris Smither, Happier Blue ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:52:21 -0600 From: Rick Grant Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers REDUX At 05:39 06/06/01 -0400, Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus, wrote >Gee - thanks a lot, Rick.....8*) > >Seriously, though, you did put grease in the gearcase, right? > >Hmmm....Y'know, if you were at all electronically inclined (and it doesn't >take all that much to do) I'd think about a PWM speed control for it. Well I hope like hell that this doesn't kick off another "grease in swivels" message swirl but yes I put grease in there. I used a fancy and expensive bicycle bearing grease that was kicking around in the tool box. I rebuilt the wipers as per your article about three years ago. At that point only one wiper would move at all and only at a creeping reluctant pace. Since then, Warp 2. Now, for the matter at hand. After reading all of the responses I've decided to first of all wire both motors into a single dash switch. This will at least lower the distraction level problem. And I really like that Homebrew PWM article. While I am not that good with a soldering iron it does look like a good rainy day project (forgive the pun). I probably won't get around to playing with that project for a while but the switch I can do today, and I should because there can't be more than a couple of days rain left here before the drought resumes. As for the discussion regarding sensing the park position -- it reads like the proceedings of a Mathematics of a Black Hole Singularity Conference to me. I like Rain-X a lot but I like messing around with mechanical puzzles even more. Rick Grant 1959 Series II "88" VORIZO Rick Grant Communications Media and Crisis Management Calgary Ottawa www.rickgrant.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:52:37 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Then off course there's always the switch conveniently provided by Mr Lucas :-) > The idea with the park position sensor, is that the intermittent wipe is > achieved by a PWM with a variable frequency in the O to .5Hz and a > variable > mark space ratio between 0 and 100%. . Thus .1 hz at 50% would give 5 secs > on and 5 secs off, at 10% would give 1 sec on 9 secs off. at 100% always > on > at 0% always off. etc > > > You work too hard - that can easily be achieved with a simple timer > circuit > outputting a fixed-duration pulse at a variable timing window. With the > park position available as you say, a simple relay-driving pulser would do > the job here. > > a 555 set up as an astable multivibrator would be just the ticket... > > aj"Tech weenies R. Us"r ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:56:59 -0400 From: "A. P. (Sandy) Grice" Subject: LRO: Rain-X David Scheidt wrote: >Rain-X. You won't need to turn them on at less than a downpour. Ahh, yes, Rain-X. Excellent product. With the steep angle of the Rover's windscreen, wipers *get in the way* of runoff even in heavy downpours. The only time Rain-X doesn't work is in very light mist or drizzle.... BTW, the JC Whitless time delay does not work on the Rover. BTDT...blew a fuse. Indeed, the only fuse I've ever blown. Still running with *original* Lucas fuses 30 years later.... Cheers *-----"jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is legendary"----* | A. P. "Sandy" Grice | | The Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | 757-622-7054 (H)423-4898 (FAX)757-622-7056 | *------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:55:42 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers I switched the BMW over to the European wiper module--which gives one an user--controlled variable intermittent setting. (For some reason, the US market module had a fixed intermittent setting that was never correct.) Anyhow if you two geniuses want to waste all this time in a way that's useful (to me at least) why don't you figure out how I can wire that "unused" module into the series rover so I can have multispeed wipers using off the shelf parts... ;-) jeff - -- == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== My garden is full of papayas and mangos. My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos. Taste for the good life, I can see it no other way. --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:58:14 -0400 From: Jeff Berg Subject: RE: LRO: Re: Re: disk brakes conversion Please take the snaps John. And a write-up on the installation would be most appreciated. I'm giving serious thought to that conversion. (I hear TIC is "beta testing" the 4 wheel disk conversion--wondering if it's necessary but anxious to have the choice.) Can't remember if you have a Web site or not John, but if not I'd be happy to archive your photos and text for all to enjoy. jeff - -- == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== Ia oro the natura E mea arofa teie ao nei Ua oau the maitai no the fenua The vai noa ra the ora o the mitie --Jimmy Buffett, One Particular Harbour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:13:01 EDT From: Sjust1925@aol.com Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion - --part1_c5.11b71b77.284fb08d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do you fit RR axles to a Series? I have heard it is almost impossible due to suspension. Scott Just Rochester Hills, MI '68 109 reg. - --part1_c5.11b71b77.284fb08d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do you fit RR axles to a Series?
I have heard it is almost impossible due to suspension.
Scott Just
Rochester Hills, MI
'68 109 reg. - --part1_c5.11b71b77.284fb08d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:22:49 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers REDUX Rick comments: >Black Hole Singularity Conference to me. SOunds like our mental processes to a tee.....8*) aj"Singular, that is..."r ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:28:16 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers Jeffo, if the present wiper system in your Rover is single-wiper (I don't really remember offhand) then the module would likely be made to work w/o too much trouble. Actually, adding the variable delay to that one would likely have been a matter of swapping a fixed resistor for a potentiometer...how much did you pay for the black box again? 8*) aj"Reverse-engineering R Us"r ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:29:57 -0400 From: "Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion How do you fit RR axles to a Series? I have heard it is almost impossible due to suspension. Weld spring perches to the axle casings maybe? Might have to swap around some bits on the front axle to move the armsaway from the springs...but I believe this is a not-uncommon conversion in the UK. ajr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:01:22 -0400 From: Easton Trevor A Subject: RE: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers REDUX Take out the Hole and the Conference and the Initials match to a Tee > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [SMTP:Alan_Richer@Lotus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:23 PM > To: lro@Works.Team.Net > Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers REDUX > > > Rick comments: > > >Black Hole Singularity Conference to me. > > SOunds like our mental processes to a tee.....8*) > > aj"Singular, that is..."r > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:39:50 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0EE8E.28F22B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's exactly it...=20 I am fitting suspension and axles at the same time.=20 Suspension, AND sway bars...=20 ;-) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sjust1925@aol.com=20 To: lro@Works.Team.Net=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion How do you fit RR axles to a Series?=20 I have heard it is almost impossible due to suspension.=20 Scott Just=20 Rochester Hills, MI=20 '68 109 reg.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0EE8E.28F22B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's exactly it...
 
I am fitting suspension and axles at = the same time.=20
 
Suspension, AND sway bars... =
 
;-)
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How do you = fit RR axles=20 to a Series?
I have heard it is almost impossible due to = suspension.=20
Scott Just
Rochester Hills, MI
'68 109 reg.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0EE8E.28F22B20-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:46:04 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Maybe that's why Niall wants to trade is Tim Taylor special mudders in for highway tires... Sorry, Niall. But I seem to remember you letting us know you're at Con's place... Time to gang up on you. > Thanks for clearing that up JL. I was confused--I assumed Niall was > commenting on some sort of braking system attached to your anatomy > for purposes unknown to "normal" folk--or perhaps a system utilizing > your anatomy to bring several tons of rolling metal to a halt. The > latter sounds like a disfunctional use of that equipment and also > like it might result in premature wear and tear. (*OUCH*) > > And I was kind of wondering how Niall found out about it. ;-) > > jab > -- > Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:14:05 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Rain-X >Ahh, yes, Rain-X. Excellent product. With the steep angle of the Rover's >windscreen, wipers *get in the way* of runoff even in heavy downpours. The >only time Rain-X doesn't work is in very light mist or drizzle.... Agreed. I just came home from the marina as it started to pour. Rain-X was reapplied to the Zit yesterday and it worked perfectly on the way home. I always wanted to rig up a sort of parallelogram-linkage type wiper system like they use on buses. The wiper remains in the vertical position and moves side to side with only a slight arc. Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:30:40 -0400 From: "Jean-Leon Morin" Subject: Re: LRO: Slowing down windscreen wipers I find application of -20C weather seesm to slow them down very nicely... J-L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:25:13 -0000 From: "N Forbes" Subject: Re: LRO: Re: disk brakes conversion Well shit. Talk about a bad typo. I think Al deserves some credit though as he spotted this first. He said: >Now there is a Freudian slip if ever I heard one....... > > aj"Are you commenting on the design or the typical RR owner?8*)"r As I told him, the design of the brakes seems sound, so.....;-) Anyway JL and Jeff, I'm glad you're enjoying this. You know what they say "small things amuse small minds". Get it? Hehehehe....sorry JL ;-) Niall Forbes 66 IIa 88SW - The Red Zit Dartmouth, Nova Scotia The Nova Scotian Rover - http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/forbes/intro.htm "See the happy moron, He doesn't give a damn. I wish I were a moron. My God! Perhaps I am!" - --author unknown _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ End of LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #398 **********************************************