From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Thu May 3 02:56:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f436uxN12062 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:56:59 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f435rbd21162 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f435rbW21159 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@works.team.net [216.35.192.56]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26628 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f434nSv03209 for lro-digest-gone; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:49:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:49:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200105030449.f434nSv03209@works.team.net> From: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net (LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * *) To: lro-digest@works.team.net Subject: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #365 Reply-To: lro-digest@works.team.net Sender: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Errors-To: owner-lro-digest@works.team.net Precedence: bulk X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * Thursday, May 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 365 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:38:17 -0700 From: "Mark Freeman" Subject: LRO: Re:front seal retainer, Nigel's Disease Jim Hall, I believe all of this talk has about front crank seals has caused my Series III 2.25 petrol to develop "sympathetic symptoms" Seal part # would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark Freeman Sedalia, Missouri Series Land Rovers, beyond what reasonable people can tolerate (present company excluded). From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: front seal retainer Well they didn't have a double lipped seal in stock, but I was able to get two thinner seals that I can put in together to make a double lip. It may make seal removal a little harder but I shouldn't have to replace them often. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:12:30 -0600 From: "Jim Hall" Subject: Re: LRO: Re:front seal retainer, Nigel's Disease Hehe. I used a CR 18555 and a CR 18558. CR= Chicago Rawhide. The 18558 is thinner than the 18555, which are both thinner than the stock seal. Mark Freeman wrote: > > Jim Hall, I believe all of this talk has about front crank seals has caused > my Series III 2.25 petrol to develop "sympathetic symptoms" Seal part # > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mark Freeman > Sedalia, Missouri > Series Land Rovers, beyond what reasonable people can tolerate (present > company excluded). > > From: "Jim Hall" > Subject: Re: LRO: front seal retainer > > Well they didn't have a double lipped seal in stock, but I was able to > get two thinner seals that I can put in together to make a double lip. > It may make seal removal a little harder but I shouldn't have to replace > them often. - -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 04:51:26 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: map/imaging website http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com Aloha, just wanted to pass this site along. Combination of topo maps and satalite images of the country. Not all areas have the photos, seem to be related to Military sites, some of the images come from a Russian source. Was foolen around, looking in the neighborhood where we want to live in Washington, and found some trails not far off :-) Anyway, when planing your next trip, you ought to check it out. Kinda cool to zoom in to an area on a 1:7500 topo map and then switch over to the 1meter sat photos. Most of the photos I have seen so far are only 4-5 years old. Unfortunately Hawaii is only topos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 07:56:20 +0200 From: Paul Oxley Subject: Re: LRO: Another Impossible Thing? And Malta! N Forbes wrote: > Anyway, that's why I always ignore folks whining about straying off topic > since their complaints would actually be off topic anyway, wouldn't they? Quite. Besides, how boring would it be if we stayed 'on-topic' all the time? Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:18:41 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: Bumpers Aloha. put together another one this weekend. Did it for a friend based upon a drawing he made on a 2x2 post-it. Like the results, and the recover points are sooo sweet. 6.5 ton recovery shackles from a duece-ana-half. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:59:16 +0100 From: Ian Stuart Subject: LRO: Video clips: Malasian Rain Forest Challenge 2000 For those of you interested in the more extreme of off-roading, have a look at these MPEGS http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/rainforest.challenge.2000/ - -- --==**==-- Ian Stuart - EdINA, DataLibrary, University computing services. - --------------------------------- Truth is what you believe it to be. I cannot force my facts on you, only make you believe my beliefs. - --------------------------------- http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:29:17 -0400 From: "RON WARD" Subject: LRO: RE: Hi Lift Jack Mount I think that is a great idea. I plan to mount the thing vertically with the base resting on the lifting ring attached to my rear crossmember. A couple bolts with a length of spacer in between the tub and the jack will give enough support while not taking up so much room that I have to remove my rear work lamp. Trevor, I salute your continued pursuit of excellence. Ron >>> trevor_easton@dofasco.ca 05/01/01 11:34AM >>> What's wrong with two half inch bolts, a short pipe as a spacer, some nuts, washers and make your own mount for about $3 > -----Original Message----- > From: RON WARD [SMTP:ronward@synovustrust.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:05 AM > To: lro@Works.Team.Net > Subject: LRO: Hi Lift Jack Mount > > I ordered a mount kit from RN and it's not right for my application so I'm > sending it back. Last week someone emailed me with a web site address for > a place that carried the "4XRack" that is the simple metal bracket unit > that most people use and costs around $22.00. I mistakenly deleted the > email and can't recall the web address. Anybody? > > TIA > > Ron Ward ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:45:11 -0700 From: "Nick Eckert" Subject: LRO: Replacing 3-4 Syncro Detent Springs Does anyone have any tips on replacing the Detent springs on the 3&4 Syncromesh assembly with it in place? I have the selector forks out and have the located the offending spring. Going to try to replace it this evening. Please respond directly - I am in in digest mode. Thanks, Nickster 1972 SIII 'Grommit' 1961 SII 2.5TD Coiler Hybrid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:51:09 -0700 From: Tom Gross Subject: LRO: Los Angeles Times article For those in the U.S., there is an interesting article in today's L.A. Times. It seems that Mercedes Benz is going to import the Gelandewagen. Also, GM and AM General are seriously talking about making a bob-tail version of the Hummer H2 - whatever that is. They call it a "SUT" - Sport Utility Truck. These are supposed to feed the market for true off-road capable vehicles that also have the usual USA-type amenities. The article compared them to Lincoln Navigators (yeah sure), and - guess what - Land Rover's Range Rovers. Of course, we all know what the real "SUT" in Ford-Land Rover's model line is. Who knows, maybe those stratospheric prices for '93 NAS Defender 110s are going to take a bit of a dip - provided Ford and Land Rover get the hint. http://www.latimes.com/news/highway1/20010502/t000037068.html Tom Gross '67 SIIa 109 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:11:23 -0600 From: "Tim Czajka" Subject: LRO: Re: Los Angeles Times article Tom Gross wrote: >Also, GM and AM General are seriously talking about making a bob-tail >version of the Hummer H2 - whatever that is. > The Hummer H2 is supposedly a go. It will be a smaller version of the Hummer. GM wants to leverage the Hummer brand. Although - based on what I read it is quite different from the real Hummer in suspension etc. It uses many off the shelf GM truck parts. I was kind of shocked at the 40 - 50 grand price tag. GM is also considering a third smaller version of the Hummer (H3?) - probably the bobtail you mentioned. Tim Czajka 1972 Series III 88 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:32:55 -0400 From: Ed Bailey Subject: LRO: RE: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #364 I finally acquired some !6" wheels for the Milliennium Falcon (1966 S2A 88). They are the factory 109 type wide ones. I recall several threads about tire sizes but since the archives are not presently available here goes: What size tires? I think I want the tallest thinnest tires that will work. I also think I want to stay with radials since they seem to be more forgiving of 35 year old suspensions or for that matter of 61 year old suspensions such as my own. Also I think I want a highway tread in hopes that it will quiet things down a bit. My question, are 750R16's appropriate? They appear to add a couple of inches (cheap overdrive?) and don't "look" any wider than my current 235/75R15 mud tires. Any help will be appreciated. Ed Bailey Milliennium Falcon 1966 S2A 88 (Somewhere in East Tennessee) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:26:04 -0600 From: "Kirk Hillman" Subject: LRO: Re: Video clips: Malasian Rain Forest Challenge 2000 Ian, Interesting that you should mention the Rainforest Challenge because a friend and I will be there this year... riding along no less! Kirk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:30:44 -0600 From: "Kirk Hillman" Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Los Angeles Times article The auto show that I saw a little while ago made this 'H2' seem childish. Of course it had terrific aggressive styling, but that was only the body shell. I understood it was based on regular GM components from the frame up (mechanically speaking), regular axles and all. Am I mistaken? Kirk - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Czajka" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: LRO: Re: Los Angeles Times article > Tom Gross wrote: > >Also, GM and AM General are seriously talking about making a bob-tail > >version of the Hummer H2 - whatever that is. > > > The Hummer H2 is supposedly a go. It will be a smaller > version of the Hummer. GM wants to leverage the Hummer > brand. Although - based on what I read it is quite > different from the real Hummer in suspension etc. It > uses many off the shelf GM truck parts. I was kind of > shocked at the 40 - 50 grand price tag. > > GM is also considering a third smaller version of the > Hummer (H3?) - probably the bobtail you mentioned. > > Tim Czajka > 1972 Series III 88 > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:47:12 -0400 From: Perrone Ford Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Re: Los Angeles Times article Well,

   We are all aware how good the silverado frame is off-road.  It's the PERFECT platform for the hummer wannabee.  Every GM truck commercial shows you how tough the truck is.. GIANT men, GIANT truck...

Like a rock!

(I wonder if it has a transfer case)

- -P

Kirk Hillman wrote:
The auto show that I saw a little while ago made this 'H2' seem childish.
Of course it had terrific aggressive styling, but that was only the body
shell.  I understood it was based on regular GM components from the frame up
(mechanically speaking), regular axles and all.  Am I mistaken?

Kirk


------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:44:18 -0600 From: "Kirk Hillman" Subject: LRO: Re: Re: Video clips: Malasian Rain Forest Challenge 2000 > Ian, > Interesting that you should mention the Rainforest Challenge because a > friend and I will be there this year... riding along ***IN A LAND ROVER*** no less! > > Kirk > Sorry about the confusion, I didn't want anyone to think I was actually going to be in the competition. (I wish!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:07:47 -0400 From: John Karlsson Subject: Re: LRO: RE: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #364 I went through the 15" to 16" upgrade last summer. After agonizing for eons about tire selection, I opted for Pep Boys' Dakotas in 235/85R16 size. I'm quite happy with these tires, which have a moderate tread pattern and sell for $80. John At 01:32 PM 5/2/01, you wrote: >I finally acquired some !6" wheels for the Milliennium Falcon (1966 S2A >88). They are the factory 109 type wide ones. I recall several threads >about tire sizes but since the archives are not presently available here >goes: What size tires? I think I want the tallest thinnest tires that >will work. I also think I want to stay with radials since they seem to be >more forgiving of 35 year old suspensions or for that matter of 61 year >old suspensions such as my own. Also I think I want a highway tread in >hopes that it will quiet things down a bit. My question, are 750R16's >appropriate? They appear to add a couple of inches (cheap overdrive?) and >don't "look" any wider than my current 235/75R15 mud tires. Any help will >be appreciated. > >Ed Bailey >Milliennium Falcon >1966 S2A 88 >(Somewhere in East Tennessee) John Karlsson 956 Main Street P.O. Box 1023 Hope Valley, RI 02832 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 01 11:04:50 -0700 From: TeriAnn Wakeman Subject: Re: LRO: RE: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #364 > My question, are 750R16's appropriate? It is the stock tyre size for a stanard 109. SO why not? TeriAnn and a virtual Lacy Too on the web http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/LacyToo.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:37:37 +0100 From: "Frank Elson" Subject: LRO: Re: RE: Hi Lift Jack Mount Trev writes:What's wrong with two half inch bolts, a short pipe as a spacer, some nuts, > washers and make your own mount for about $3<<< or two of those customisers' bonnet pins? Mine are under the back row of seats and hold my Jackall in perfectly. Cost (in sterling) 2.75. beats your $3 (nyah nyah) :-)> Best Cheers Frank +--+--+--+ I !__| [_]|_\___ I ____|"_|"__|_ | / B791 PKV "(o)======(o)" Bronze Green 110 CSW ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:38:03 EDT From: NADdMD@aol.com Subject: LRO: TAW: Lacytoo - --part1_fc.5cc0a21.2821ae0b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/2/01 2:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, twakeman@cruzers.com writes: > http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/LacyToo.htm > > I stopped by your webpage. We had an English Pointer who died of osteosarcoma (Bone Cancer). He was 9 when he died. The details are unimportant I guess, but the point is, when I discussed this with our vet, he told me that the larger breeds are at significantly higher risk of it. Experimentally, there are retroviruses known to induce sarcomas in birds, but I guess none of this makes it easier. As they say, only the good die young. Nate - --part1_fc.5cc0a21.2821ae0b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/2/01 2:07:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
twakeman@cruzers.com writes:


http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/LacyToo.htm



I stopped by your webpage.  We had an English Pointer who died of
osteosarcoma (Bone Cancer).  He was 9 when he died.  The details are
unimportant I guess, but the point is, when I discussed this with our vet, he
told me that the larger breeds are at significantly higher risk of it.

Experimentally, there are retroviruses known to induce sarcomas in birds, but
I guess none of this makes it easier.

As they say, only the good die young.

Nate - --part1_fc.5cc0a21.2821ae0b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:46:01 EDT From: NADdMD@aol.com Subject: LRO: Whoops - --part1_a9.14fc749d.2821afe9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry all, That was supposed to be by back channel. Hard to get these things back after you hit send.... N - --part1_a9.14fc749d.2821afe9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry all,

That was supposed to be by back channel.  Hard to get these things back after
you hit send....

N - --part1_a9.14fc749d.2821afe9_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:55:37 +0200 From: Paul Oxley Subject: Re: LRO: RE: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #364 Ed Bailey wrote: > What size tires? I think I want the tallest thinnest tires that > will work. I also think I want to stay with radials Ed, BF Goodrich All Terrain 235/85/16's, they are whisper quiet radials with 3 ply sidewalls, they have brilliant roadholding on the tar, are better than good offroad (mixed terrain) and give better than 100K kilometres (some people report up to 125K). Regards Paul Oxley AfricanAdrenalin.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:12:43 -0700 From: "Rich Williams II" Subject: LRO: Tires So just to be clear... Is my understanding correct that for a 109 the stock tire size is 750R16 which is basically the same as 235-85-16 for us in the States? Thanks for helping me beat this dead horse. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 16:20:01 -0400 From: Keith Tanner Subject: Re: LRO: Tires The 235/85-16 tire is 9.25" wide. A 750x16 is (as far as I understand) 7.5" wide. The diameter is the same. You can still get 750x16 tires in North America. I'm not sure exactly why the different measuring systems, but since Canadian Tire offers them it's obviously not extremely rare :) Keith Tanner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 16:52:42 -0400 From: Bill Adams Subject: Re: LRO: Tires Try BFG Trac-Edge commercial truck tires. They come in a 7.50R-16 radial and are a fine all around OnR OffR tire. - -- Bill Adams 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director International Broadcasting Bureau Washington, D.C. 202-205-9638 badams@ibb.gov '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel '81 GoldWing '69 Le Sabre Convertible '63 Pearson Vanguard "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:56:19 EDT From: IBEdwardp@aol.com Subject: LRO: Bear Alert (No LR Content) The Colorado State Department of fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen and golfers to take extra precautions and be on the alert for bears while in the mountainous areas around Denver, Dillon, Breckenridge and Keystone. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices, such as little bells, on their clothing to alert, but, not startle the bears unexpectedly. They also advise you to carry pepper spray in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs of bear activity. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings: Black bear droppings are smaller and contain berries and possibly squirrel fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in them and smell like pepper spray. Ed Bailey 66 S2A SWB (Millennium Falcon) Somewhere in East Tennessee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:56:54 -0700 From: "Hoult, Bryan" Subject: RE: LRO: Tires The 9.25" is generally the section width on a 235/85/16. 7.50/16's run closer to 9" on section width. Tread width, again generally, on 7.50's is closer to 6.50 and on 235/85's it run's about 7". 7.50's may trend about .25" greater in diameter. 7.50's also typically will sport about 1mm less tread depth and will be classified as load range D. 235/85's are usually offered in load range E (though not always) and as such, have a bit higher capacity. Blah, blah, blah - yadda, yadda. Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Tanner [mailto:keith@miata.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:20 PM To: lro@works.team.net Subject: Re: LRO: Tires The 235/85-16 tire is 9.25" wide. A 750x16 is (as far as I understand) 7.5" wide. The diameter is the same. You can still get 750x16 tires in North America. I'm not sure exactly why the different measuring systems, but since Canadian Tire offers them it's obviously not extremely rare :) Keith Tanner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:17:25 -0700 From: "Hoult, Bryan" Subject: RE: LRO: Tires Those Track-Edges are all the rage with the Series folk out here (the other WA), and they seem to really perform well. I think one of their strong points is snow/ice performance as compared to a mud tire. The siping is better and the tread more appropriate for winter use than most M/T's. Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Adams [mailto:badams@IBB.GOV] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:53 PM To: lro@works.team.net Subject: Re: LRO: Tires Try BFG Trac-Edge commercial truck tires. They come in a 7.50R-16 radial and are a fine all around OnR OffR tire. - -- Bill Adams 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director International Broadcasting Bureau Washington, D.C. 202-205-9638 badams@ibb.gov '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel '81 GoldWing '69 Le Sabre Convertible '63 Pearson Vanguard "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:57:22 -1000 From: "Peter Ogilvie" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires >From: "Rich Williams II" >Reply-To: lro@works.team.net >To: >Subject: LRO: Tires >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:12:43 -0700 > >So just to be clear... > >Is my understanding correct that for a 109 the stock tire size is 750R16 >which is basically the same as 235-85-16 for us in the States? > >Thanks for helping me beat this dead horse. > >Rich > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:39:09 +0100 From: Subject: LRO: Re: Replacing 3-4 Syncro Detent Springs If you tell me that you can replace the springs without pulling the box out and stripping it into tiny bits, I'm going to scream !!!! It took me three days to get it out, do the deed and put it all back again and while I was at it, I replaced first and second baulk rings thinking that might convert my series 3 semi-syncro box into an all syncro version. No such luck, second is still double de clutch and I'm buggered if I know why#:o( Never mind, at least the new seals are keeping the EP90 on the inside #:o) Chaz http://freespace.virgin.net/chaz.mackenzie/home.htm - -----Original Message----- From: Nick Eckert To: lro@Works.Team.Net Date: Wednesday 2 May 3:55 Subject: LRO: Replacing 3-4 Syncro Detent Springs > Does anyone have any tips on replacing the Detent springs on the 3&4 >Syncromesh assembly with it in place? > > I have the selector forks out and have the located the offending spring. >Going to try to replace it this evening. > > Please respond directly - I am in in digest mode. > >Thanks, > >Nickster > > >1972 SIII 'Grommit' >1961 SII 2.5TD Coiler Hybrid > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:41:43 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires > Those Track-Edges are all the rage with the Series folk out here (the other > WA), and they seem to really perform well. I think one of their strong > points is snow/ice performance as compared to a mud tire. Bryan, are studs or chains allowed on WA's roads? Pete ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:51:30 -0400 From: "Rolston" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires Try the Interco site. We just put on a set of Truxs 255-85r 16's on our '68 ambulance, and they are amazing. Quieter than the Cooper STT's they replaced, and wonderful off-road. Pretty much haven't spun a wheel since we have been running them. Worth checking out. Jim - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoult, Bryan" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: LRO: Tires > Those Track-Edges are all the rage with the Series folk out here (the other > WA), and they seem to really perform well. I think one of their strong > points is snow/ice performance as compared to a mud tire. The siping is > better and the tread more appropriate for winter use than most M/T's. > > Bryan > 62 88 > 70 109 "Genie" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Adams [mailto:badams@IBB.GOV] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:53 PM > To: lro@works.team.net > Subject: Re: LRO: Tires > > > Try BFG Trac-Edge commercial truck tires. They come in a 7.50R-16 radial > and are a fine all around OnR OffR tire. > -- > Bill Adams > 3D & Motion Graphics Design Director > International Broadcasting Bureau > Washington, D.C. > 202-205-9638 > badams@ibb.gov > > > '66 Land Rover 109 SW Diesel > '81 GoldWing > '69 Le Sabre Convertible > '63 Pearson Vanguard > "Practicing the ancient art of ren-ching" > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:02:27 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: Re: corrosion issues/shipfitters disease/sil On Tue, 1 May 2001 NADdMD@aol.com wrote: : :Al, when you do paint it (btw it comes in clear now--I had to use :black)with PlastiDip, give it a full 12 hours before reassembly so it :gets very hard. It dries in an hour or so, but is still mash-able for :a few hours. It (or something like it) comes in several colors. I've seen red, white and black, and maybe others. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:19:49 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: Re: LRO: Re: Los Angeles Times article On Wed, 2 May 2001, Tim Czajka wrote: :Tom Gross wrote: :>Also, GM and AM General are seriously talking about making a bob-tail :>version of the Hummer H2 - whatever that is. :> :The Hummer H2 is supposedly a go. It will be a smaller :version of the Hummer. GM wants to leverage the Hummer :brand. Although - based on what I read it is quite :different from the real Hummer in suspension etc. It :uses many off the shelf GM truck parts. I was kind of :shocked at the 40 - 50 grand price tag. : They're certainly building the production line. It's on the AM General lot in Mishawaka Indiana, where they build the HMMV and civilian Hummer. I drove by the lot in early march, (my parents live a couple miles away, and I went to high school almost next door.) and it was just a hole in the ground. I think I still have the clippings my parents sent me from the local paper. It's got very little, if anything, in common with the Hummer, except for looks. It's much smaller, and has running gear based on GM truck stuff. - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:42:23 -0500 From: "Andy Pease" Subject: LRO: 24v bulbs Does anybody know of a source to find 24v bulbs [headlights, taillights, turn lights, etc.] for a 74 SIII Lightweight? Thus far I have found Rovers North. Is there anybody else? Thank you, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:41:54 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt Subject: RE: LRO: Tires On Wed, 2 May 2001, Hoult, Bryan wrote: :The 9.25" is generally the section width on a 235/85/16. 7.50/16's run :closer to 9" on section width. Tread width, again generally, on 7.50's is :closer to 6.50 and on 235/85's it run's about 7". 7.50's may trend about :.25" greater in diameter. 7.50's also typically will sport about 1mm less :tread depth and will be classified as load range D. 235/85's are usually :offered in load range E (though not always) and as such, have a bit higher :capacity. Blah, blah, blah - yadda, yadda. I've got Dunlop Radial Rover RTs in 750R16 on the 109. They're very nice -- quiet, good in rain, good in mud. They're pinned for studs, if you're into that. They are load range D, but 2400 pounds per wheel should be quite enough. They've also got a speed rating of R (170 kph). They were about 95 a piece, which was quite a bit less than anything else I found in 750X16. David - -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:42:34 -0700 From: "Rich & Lori Williams" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires Pete, Yes, studs and chains are allowed on WA roads but only during specific dates which vary a little year to year depending on the current snow conditions, etc... I think generally speaking between mid-October and mid-March or April it's permissible. Rich - ----- Original Message ----- From: Hope Peter To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:41 AM Subject: Re: LRO: Tires > > > Those Track-Edges are all the rage with the Series folk out here (the > other > > WA), and they seem to really perform well. I think one of their strong > > points is snow/ice performance as compared to a mud tire. Bryan, > are studs or chains allowed on WA's roads? > Pete > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:29:18 -0400 From: "Larry Smith" Subject: LRO: Re: 24v bulbs NAPA, under the heavy truck section of the lighting catalog. BTDT, got the bulbs. Larry Smith Chester, VA - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Pease" To: Sent: 02 May, 2001 07:42 PM Subject: LRO: 24v bulbs > Does anybody know of a source to find 24v bulbs [headlights, taillights, > turn lights, etc.] for a 74 SIII Lightweight? Thus far I have found Rovers > North. Is there anybody else? > > Thank you, > > Andy > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 01 18:07:59 -0700 From: TeriAnn Wakeman Subject: RE: LRO: Tires If you have not seen Track-Edge tyres they are easy to describe. Take a good quality commercial grade light truck street tyre then add mud terrain edges along the edges of the tyre. The Track-Edge uses the BFG regular light truck casing as opposed to their off road tyre "armored" casing. The tyre would be an excellent choice for someone who drives mostly on pavement (As most of us do) and occasionally does some light to moderate offroading. They are a better pavment tyre than mud tyres and should provide a long service life. They wear like a good light truck tyre and provide very good street performance and the tread edges are there to help you through softer situations that would stop a tyre with regular street tyre edges. TeriAnn and a virtual Lacy Too on the web http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/Dogs/LacyToo.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:26:33 EDT From: Sjust1925@aol.com Subject: LRO: Can't push the truck forward when it's cold? ? ? ? - --part1_c8.1444082b.28221bd9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm getting some 'resistance' (seems mechanical) somewhere in my 109. You can't push it forward out of gear when its cold and when you run it, it lacks whatever peep the 2.25 could muster. Tach, seems high as well, you can push it after it has run though. Doesn't seem like brakes or anything I can peg down. The truck has ARB lockers from the previous owner but they are disconnected. Any idea what I'm looking at, at a lose here? Thanks Scott Just Rochester Hills, MI. 68 '109 - --part1_c8.1444082b.28221bd9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm getting some 'resistance' (seems mechanical) somewhere in my 109. You
can't push it forward out of gear when its cold and when you run it, it lacks
whatever peep the 2.25 could muster. Tach, seems high as well, you can push
it after it has run though.  Doesn't seem like brakes or anything I can peg
down. The truck has ARB lockers from the previous owner but they are
disconnected.
Any idea what I'm looking at, at a lose here?
Thanks
Scott Just
Rochester Hills, MI.
68  '109 - --part1_c8.1444082b.28221bd9_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:13:25 -0700 From: "Rich & Lori Williams" Subject: LRO: small sandblasting cabinet This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C0D344.582795C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have any experience with small sandblasting cabinets? I was = thinking about getting one for this (and future) projects. Probably = would want something large enough to blast a 16" wheel. And how big of = a compressor does one typically need or are there self contained units = out there? Thanks,=20 Rich ' 60 SII 109sw - ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C0D344.582795C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have any experience with = small=20 sandblasting cabinets?  I was thinking about getting one for this = (and=20 future) projects.  Probably would want something large enough to = blast a=20 16" wheel.  And how big of a compressor does one typically need or = are=20 there self contained units out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Rich
' 60 SII = 109sw
- ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C0D344.582795C0-- ------------------------------ Date: 2 May 2001 20:46:19 -0700 From: Bryan Hoult Subject: Re: LRO: Tires Pete, It hardly ever snows below 2000 Ft in western Washington (as defined by either side of the Cascades).....until somebody from HI moves here. Then, Bam! Worst winter in 20 years. Chains are on an as needed basis, however. You'll look a little pre-emptive rolling them in spring and summer. Bryan 62 88 70 109 "Genie" On Wed, 02 May 2001, "Hope Peter" wrote: > > > > Those Track-Edges are all the rage with the Series folk out here (the > other > > WA), and they seem to really perform well. I think one of their strong > > points is snow/ice performance as compared to a mud tire. Bryan, > are studs or chains allowed on WA's roads? > Pete ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:38:15 -0700 From: "Rich & Lori Williams" Subject: LRO: Restoration Service in MT or WY? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C0D347.CFE1E2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know of an outfit in either Montana or Wyoming that sells = and restores Series LRs? And more specifically, I am looking for the = website. NO - I am not giving up on my project! I just recall running = across such a site once, can't find it now and I am tired of surfing = around looking for it Thanks,=20 Rich ' 60 SII 109sw - ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C0D347.CFE1E2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know of an outfit in either = Montana or=20 Wyoming that sells and restores Series LRs?  And more specifically, = I am=20 looking for the website.  NO - I am not giving up on my = project! =20 I just recall running across such a site once, can't find it now and I = am tired=20 of surfing around looking for it
 
Thanks,
 
Rich
' 60 SII=20 109sw
- ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C0D347.CFE1E2C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:38:35 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: LRO: Re: small sandblasting cabinet Aloha Rich. You should be able to get away with a bench top cabienet if a rim is the largest piece you will do. Will need a large tank and a compressor that puts out a high CFM. You will also want to install a good line drier at the cabinet. Be surprised how fast a fresh sandblasted parts begins to rust when you are blasting with a mixture of sand and water mist. Some cabinets also have a spot for a shop vac. This is to remove the fine dust from the air inside the cab. Between the compressor and the vacume it gets pretty noisy also. Another idea is to use a regular sand blaster. Use play ground sand (a buck a bag), and do it down wind from the house and vehicles. You can vacume up the sand, sift and reuse many times. If you dont have a place to do this outside, a roll of poly and some cheep 1" strapping and you can build and enclosure for the sandblaster, the part and you. Safety is important of course. If using a cabinet, wear at least some hearing protection. For the other options you will want a full face shield and particle mask. HPT. Let me know if there is anything else Pete Does anyone have any experience with small sandblasting cabinets? I was thinking about getting one for this (and future) projects. Probably would want something large enough to blast a 16" wheel. And how big of a compressor does one typically need or are there self contained units out there? Thanks, Rich ' 60 SII 109sw ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:44:21 -1000 From: "Hope Peter" Subject: Re: LRO: Tires > Pete, > > It hardly ever snows below 2000 Ft in western Washington (as defined by either side of the Cascades).....until somebody from HI moves here. Then, Bam! Worst winter in 20 years. Chains are on an as needed basis, however. You'll look a little pre-emptive rolling them in spring and summer. > > Bryan > 62 88 > 70 109 "Genie" > hahaha Don't put em on till the snows on the ground. They were illegal in VA. Had em growing up in Maine. Nothing like a 4x w/chains and 3' of snow on the roads to put a little extra $$$ in yer pocket :-) Pete ------------------------------ End of LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #365 ********************************************** From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Thu May 3 03:18:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f437INN12113 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 03:18:24 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f436F2Q21758 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f436F1W21755 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@works.team.net [216.35.192.56]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29787 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f435kfY03950 for lro-gone; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:46:41 -0400 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f435kdE03946 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:46:39 -0400 Received: from DONOHUEPE@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 3.b8.15160abd (3879) for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:46:21 -0400 (EDT) From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:46:21 EDT Subject: LRO: Re: LRO Mailing List DIGEST * * * * V1 #365 To: lro-digest@works.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-lro@works.team.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lro@works.team.net X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi In a message dated 5/2/01 10:55:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, owner-lro-digest@Works.Team.Net writes: > GM and AM General are seriously talking about making a bob-tail > version of the Hummer H2 - whatever that is. They call it a "SUT" - Sport > Utility Truck. If we add the word "Leisure" as in Leisure Suit, would we then have a Sport Leisure Utility Truck or SLUT? Paul Donohue 1965 Land Rover 109 Denver From fadushin@ecs.syr.edu Thu May 3 03:44:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (ecs.syr.edu [128.230.208.14]) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f437iLN12214 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 03:44:21 -0400 Received: (from fadushin@localhost) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f436f0P22483 for fadushin@www.ovlr.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by mailroom.ecs.syr.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f436exW22480 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from works.team.net (IDENT:root@works.team.net [216.35.192.56]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02257 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f436NEN04589 for lro-gone; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:23:14 -0400 Received: from majordomo.nre.vic.gov.au (alfa.nre.vic.gov.au [203.11.140.30]) by works.team.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f436NAE04585 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 02:23:10 -0400 Received: from sysm.nre.vic.gov.au (sysm.dce.vic.gov.au [157.128.80.81]) by majordomo.nre.vic.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28995 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:23:04 +1000 (EST) From: Richard.Clarke@nre.vic.gov.au Received: from ctln06.nre.vic.gov.au (ctln06 [157.128.80.26]) by sysm.nre.vic.gov.au with SMTP id QAA22920 (8.8.5/IDA-1.7 for ); Thu, 3 May 2001 16:23:20 +1000 (EST) Received: by ctln06.nre.vic.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 4A256A41.00230A38 ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:22:43 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NRE To: lro-digest@works.team.net Message-ID: <4A256A41.002308BE.00@ctln06.nre.vic.gov.au> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:20:32 +1000 Subject: LRO: Re: tyres (tires) and sizes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-lro@works.team.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: lro@works.team.net X-Subscriptions: http://land-rover.team.net/majorcool/cgi-bin/majorcool.cgi some time ago when I had only 5.5 inch rims I enquired of a tyre sales place about 235 85 16 tyres - their response at the time was they were only 'approved' for fitting to rims at least 6 inches wide accordingto the manufacturer. I have since seen them regularly fitted on 5.5 inch rims and I don't think there is any doubt about their functionality. I am surprised that in the USA (that place that the rest of the world sees as the land of litigation) that they are being fitted to, and recommended for 5.5 inch rims - or have they now decided they are 'approved' for the narrower rim? I must admit I've lost contact recently as I've had 6.6 inch rims for the last 3 years and 6 inch rims for a few years before that. Just curious Richard C