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1 Keith Elliott [cv64@glen18Series Shock replacement.
2 trowe@cdr.wisc.edu 29Re: 88 Diesel front pipe question
3 "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" 27Spring ahead
4 Matt [nelsml73@snyoneva.20LR carb in Central NYS
5 "David and Cynthia Walke19Re: Spring ahead - lube
6 "Steve Mace" [steve@solw44Re: Unleaded Fuel catalyst
7 slade@imagina.com (Micha38Re: Parabolic Springs!
8 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l10RE: Spring ahead - lube
9 john cranfield [john.cra20Re: Parabolic Springs!
10 "David and Cynthia Walke16Re: Spring ahead - lube
11 Loz [Loz@loz.softnet.co.10Re: Spring ahead - lube
12 Alessandro Castellana [k25brake servo vacuum system
13 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l27Re: Spring ahead - lube
14 Paul Wakefield - Serco [23re: Carbs Suck ....
15 Luis Manuel Gutierrez [l13FW: Spring ahead - lube
16 Michael Fredette [mfrede54Re:RR Forward control
17 "Steve Stoneham" [stoneh19Series Shock Replacement
18 GClyne1329 [GClyne1329@a16oil in water
19 "David and Cynthia Walke12Re: Spring ahead - lube
20 debrown@srp.gov 26What is a carburator???
21 Lodelane [Lodelane@aol.c22Parting out Series 3
22 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o16Re: Spring ahead
23 "William L. Leacock" [wl22Rag tops
24 "William L. Leacock" [wl1388 Diesel front pipe question
25 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1131Tub Disassembly/Spot Welds/Rebuilding
26 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1124Galvanising
27 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1117Liftgate Parts Needed
28 "Peter M. Kaskan" [pmk1127Painting - Primer Needed?
29 Frankelson [Frankelson@a21Re: Parabolic Springs!
30 Frankelson [Frankelson@a16Re: Spring ahead
31 Adrian Redmond [channel630Re: Tub Disassembly/Spot Welds/Rebuilding
32 Adrian Redmond [channel623Re: Liquid gaskets
33 Frankelson [Frankelson@a23Re: Liquid gaskets
34 "Mark Oellermann" [marko29RE: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts
35 JBISKY [JBISKY@aol.com> 17What are symptoms of blown head gasket?
36 lndrvr@ldd.net (BRIAN WI16Smokey Mtn. Sighting
37 "MARY THOMSON" [denthoms18The saga continues.
38 RINGO JACK [RINGOJACK@ao7dfsfsdfd
39 Frankelson [Frankelson@a20Re: Smokey Mtn. Sighting
40 Elwyn York [Elwyny@mails21For Sale


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From: Keith Elliott <cv64@glen-net.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:28:48 -0400
Subject: Series Shock replacement.

Hello everyone...

   Just a quick question, does anyone have the part number for the Ranchero 
shocks for series LR? I think the time has come to replace mine. Any opinions 
on types of shocks, which are best? The only reason I am leaning towards the 
Ranchero is 
because of being able to get them locally.

Thanks

Keith
1961 Series II 88"

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From: trowe@cdr.wisc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:47:00 -0500
Subject: Re: 88 Diesel front pipe question

From: Tom Rowe@CDR on 05-18-98 08:47 AM

cc:
Subject:  Re: 88 Diesel front pipe question

I answered my own question. After posting my inquiry, I found my RN
catalog, and looking at part numbers, it appears they are different. Rats!
I have a new petrol front pipe I was hoping to be able to use.
Anybody out there with a SWB rover that they converted to petrol from
diesel with a diesel front pipe they'd like to trade? I need a diesel front
pipe for a manifold that has the downward manifold outlet.
Cheers.

Tom Rowe
Network Systems Administrator
WI Center for Dairy Research
Madison, WI
608-265-6194 Fax: 608-262-1578
trowe@cdr.wisc.edu

Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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From: "A. P. \"Sandy\" Grice" <rover@pinn.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:26:29 -0400
Subject: Spring ahead

>Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA wrote:

>Thsi usaully gives the sprig another few years of life. It is particularly
>effective for springs in which the leaaves have separated due to the build
>up of rust. Reving the rust agfeter dismantling works wonders.

While I've heard of greasing between the leaves to make 'em work better,
I've also heard that this grease can accumulate grit and road funk to
create a "grinding paste" that will erode the springs.  Somewhere I saw
this thin, plastic (Teflon?) slip-sheet that you place between each leaf
upon reassembly.  Needing springs in the near future (and I hope I incur
the wrath of Nigel's disease), has anyone else seen this stuff?  Cheers

  *----jeep may be famous, LAND-Rover is Legendary----*
  |                                                   |
  |             A. P. ("Sandy") Grice                 |
  |    Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
  |     Association of North American Rover Clubs     |
  |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA 23508-1730     |
  |(O)757-622-7054, (H)757-423-4898, FAX 757-622-7056 |
  *----1972 Series III------1996 Discovery SE-7(m)----*

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From: Matt <nelsml73@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:45:32 -0400
Subject: LR carb in Central NYS

Does anyone out there in Central NYS have a decent used carb for a
s2a(2.25) that they KNOW works? I've been swapping bacjk and forth from
a Solex to a Rochester toa carter to a holley to another Rochester and
have had problems with all of them, its driving me nuts but I don't have
the $$$ to buy a new one just yet, I need something that is good to hold
me over until I can afford to get a new one in August or so, I have
plenty of spare parts from a S2a I could trade and or pay a bit of cash
maybe, right now I just can't afford the $150+ I'd need  to pay for a
new unit...

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate any help I can get...

Matt Nelson
Hartwick NY

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 13:38:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Spring ahead - lube

I have - and continue to use - dry graphite spray. They graphite is in a
liquid suspension which 'flashes' off after you spray it in. It made the
springs slid enough to make the ride comfortable for my eight month pregnant
wife (anyone else with similar tales?). Dry graphite does not attract dirt
and keeps on lubricating, it has been three and a half years since I did
them (I did not remove the springs to do it). The ride seems similar to a
D90 - yes, I spent time in one of these also.

Cheers
David
Full-time father of a 3.4 year old
1970 Land Rover IIA, 88" - "BEAN TOAD"
S/V KALAKALA, Ingrid 38, ketch - our home

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From: "Steve Mace" <steve@solwise.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:24:12 +0000
Subject: Re: Unleaded Fuel catalyst

Haven't tried it but I have looked into it for use in my own vehicle. 
It's basically lumps of a Tin compound which dissolve into the 
petrol. The dissolved tin compound then acts much the same as the old 
lead compound. There are a few problems with this though:

1. It's not actaully a catalyst since it very slowly 
dissolves away and a catalyst, by definition, is not changed in 
operation. However I beleive that it dissolves very slowly so it 
should last a long time.

2. It's a bit pricey for what it is.

However, if anyone could tell me what the compound is then I could 
just by 500g of the stuff form the local chemical suppliers and chuck 
it in my tank!

> Has anyone tried this product called Broquet fuel catalyst? Supposed
> to enhance petrol and diesels by adding a few Hp and torque, as well
> as reducing emissions. Even claims to be a fuel stabiliser (engine
> starts up immediately even when using old fuel) and is a replacement
> for lead/hardened seats.
> Claims like this seem too good to be true... especially with the
> recent thread on unleaded heads, but the sceptic in me tells me
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>   lro@Land-Rover.Team.Net ** lro pages:
>   http://WWW.Land-Rover.Team.Net/
Steve Mace

1972 SIII LtWt
1993 D90
In the UK
-------------------------------------
Name: Dr Steve Mace
E-mail: steve@solwise.demon.co.uk
www: http://www.demon.co.uk/solwise/
Tel: +44 1482 473899
Fax: +44 1482 472245
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From: slade@imagina.com (Michael Slade)
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:44:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Parabolic Springs!

Someone wrote...

>I wanted to see if anyone out "there" is running parabolic
>springs (or know stories about folks who are)?

I was at an event this weekend and saw the parabolic springs in action.

Woohoo~!!!!

Finally a coil-upgrade for series vehicles (sans coils of course).

They were smooth on the road, smooth on the rough, tons of articulation and
man were they just cool all around.

I *was* planning a custom coil rig, but now that I've seen the parabolics,
my custom rig just changed back to a leafer.  (stronger, cheaper components
etc...)

So, my .02 cents would be do the parabolics at all costs (which isn't that
bad actually).  You won't regret it.  I've owned an 88 (with dead springs)
and a 109 that had dead springs and then I changed them to new Genuine
springs and am thinking I might have kept the 109 if I had used parabolics.

Call me a softie, but for my money parabolics are the way to go.

YMMV.

Later,

Michael Slade
Portland, Oregon
'90 RR Foward Control

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:47:45 -0500
Subject: RE: Spring ahead - lube

How often do you re-spray the springs with the graphite-thing?

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From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:52:53 -0300
Subject: Re: Parabolic Springs!

Michael Slade wrote:
> Someone wrote...
> >I wanted to see if anyone out "there" is running parabolic
> >springs (or know stories about folks who are)?
> I was at an event this weekend and saw the parabolic springs in action.
> Woohoo~!!!!

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> Portland, Oregon
> '90 RR Foward Control
Michael in your signature line you list a 1990 RR Forward Control
 please describe this truly unique vehicle and post some pictures.
  Or is there some more mondain explaination like some missing commas :)
      John and Muddy

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:23:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Spring ahead - lube

To the group - I have sprayed them once, but am looking to do it again. I
also did it on my previous LR. It needs to be done every 20,000 - 30,000
miles depending on your driving conditions and the rusting rate between the
springs (the rust interferes with the graphite). I use an 8-12oz can per set
of springs. Wear a latex glove because the overspray or dripping on your
hand will stain well!
I spray it in at the ends and let it run down to the middle. The graphite
when dried seems to stay put well.

David

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From: Loz <Loz@loz.softnet.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:08:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Spring ahead - lube

Anybody in the UK know of a supplier - I've got a SII 88 with rock hard springs
and it's busting my ass!!!!

David and Cynthia Walker wrote:

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From: Alessandro Castellana <kastel@tor.it>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:12:02 +0200
Subject: brake servo vacuum system

Hi all,
I own a SIII '78 88" diesel and have a few problems with brake servo vacuum
system.
When I have bought the car , last year, and decided to restore it, the
capacity to brake was very insufficient.
To get my LR through the MOT test I changed brake shoes and dual master
cylinder.
These operations didn't resolve completely the problem but it was enough to
pass the test.
Now I find the adjustament of the inlet manifold butterfly valve isn't
correct. The butterfly valve isn't fully closed when the accelerator
linkage is in the idle position.
Thanks for any suggestion.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Alessandro Castellana
kastel@tor.it
Italy
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:46:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Spring ahead - lube

<html><div>I have never seen graphite in spray. What I know that can be found
anywhere is graphite in powder, they sell if in little bottles, but I
guess it would be quite difficult to get this one kind between the leafs.
What is the natural use of this spray graphite? Maybe some speciallist
store will sell it.</div>
<br>
<div>At 02:23 PM 5/18/98 -0700, you wrote:</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;To the group - I have sprayed them once, but am looking to do it
again. I</div>
<div>&gt;also did it on my previous LR. It needs to be done every 20,000
- 30,000</div>
<div>&gt;miles depending on your driving conditions and the rusting rate
between the</div>
<div>&gt;springs (the rust interferes with the graphite). I use an 8-12oz
can per set</div>
<div>&gt;of springs. Wear a latex glove because the overspray or dripping
on your</div>
<div>&gt;hand will stain well!</div>
<div>&gt;I spray it in at the ends and let it run down to the middle. The
graphite</div>

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From: Paul Wakefield - Serco <Paul.Wakefield@esrin.esa.it>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:48:48 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: re: Carbs Suck ....

John C scribed:

: A carburettor is device that, when sucked on, releases a fluid, contained
: within, into a passing air stream.

Goodness John, 

You couldn't possibly hope to get that past such a pedantic bugger as me.

: Sucked on  !!!!

Surely you meant when a depression is created and atmospheric pressure forces 
airflow through the device in an effort to equalise the pressure ....

Cheers,

Dr Paul (Retd.)

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From: Luis Manuel Gutierrez <lgutierr@jccr.co.cr>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:57:29 -0500
Subject: FW: Spring ahead - lube

It didn't went trough.
What I meant was:
I have never seen graphite in spray. What I know that can be found anywhere 
is graphite in powder, they sell it in little bottles, but I guess it would 
be quite difficult to get this one kind between the leafs. What is the 
natural (or normal) use of this spray graphite originally? Maybe some 
specialist store will sell it.

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From: Michael Fredette <mfredett@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re:RR Forward control

 
 Michael Slade wrote:
  Someone wrote...
  I wanted to see if anyone out "there" is running parabolic
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  Michael Slade
  Portland, Oregon
  '90 RR Foward Control
 
 Michael in your signature line you list a 1990 RR Forward Control
  please describe this truly unique vehicle and post some pictures.
   Or is there some more mondain explaination like some missing commas :)
       John and Muddy

John,

   What Michael was refering to was the SNAFU in the latest Rovers North 
newsletter article by Jeff Aronson. Jeff met us all at Portland Brewery
one night, and despite taking tons of notes on his little scratch pad, managed
to confuse people, places, and vehicles. Mike Slade owns a 90 Rangie, and is
a professional photographer, and uses his truck on the job. Mike Fredette, me,
has the 101 FC's, 3 at the time actually. However, Jeff thinks we both have 
them. I gave him 10 pics or so of my 101 during it's resto, and he didn't 
use any of them, "wasting" his picture space on a grey market Rangie and a
Trek Disco. We are all having a good chuckle about the article, Mike Slade
getting lots of people asking where his 101FC is. He and I decided he just
had a few to many ales that night, scratch pad notwithstanding.
    On another note, Mike and I were both out with lots of other kooks this
weekend at Doug Shipman's Team Trophy Challenge out in the Coast Range of
mountains west of Portland, Or. Mike Slade was shooting lots of good pics,
and is planning on writing up an article for submission to 4Wheeler et all.
Should be good as he can realy take some outstanding photos. The event itself
was a real bugger. Teams consisting of two trucks, two people per truck, were
sent out on two 50+/- loops on Saturday, involving some very nasty tasks.
Many not returning till 8 or 9 that night, only to be sent out on the night
task, from which people were trickling back to camp till 4:30 AM! Then up and 
out 
of camp at 7:30 for the TSD rally on Sun, concluding at about 1:00PM. On top
of all this the weather really cooperated, at least as far as Doug Shipman
was concerned. It rained steadily all week leading up to it, and right through
the event. Temps in the 30's at night and 50's daytime, and lots of cold wet mud
to wear competetors down. And it did. Glad I was in a nice warm, dry 101 sitting
at my rally check point, and not competing. If anyone ever wanted a taste of
Camel Trophy, this was it. Just two days instead of 18-20.

Rgds
Mike 
101FC  

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From: "Steve Stoneham" <stoneham@kos.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:39:51 -0400
Subject: Series Shock Replacement
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Hi Keith,
 Atlantic British Canada has shocks on special for 88" LR's.
Just around the corner from you (relatively speaking!)
Dad just bought a set (4)and it came to $160.00 Canadian, tax in.
They were non original shocks but seem to do the job alright and no =
trouble fitting them.
Regards,
Steve

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From: GClyne1329 <GClyne1329@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:40:37 EDT
Subject: oil in water

Have a problem of oil in radiator in my 2.25 diesel engine.

I have done up head etc thinking this was the cause i.e head gasket.could
problem be an internal crack in block or what??

All suggestions appreciated.

Garry Clyne row chappie Tay 4*4 club.

Land-rovers dont float!!!

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From: "David and Cynthia Walker" <wahooadv@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:20:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Spring ahead - lube

It is sold in Canadian Tire in Canada
It is sold in a variety of automotive and marine stores in N.A.

It is used as a lubricant - it is just dry graphite with a liquid carrier.

David

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 18 May 98 12:00:35 MST
Subject: What is a carburator???

From:  David Brown - Graphics Specialist ~SRP~ E-mail: debrown@srp.gov
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
John defines:
    A carburettor is device that, when sucked on, releases a fluid,
    contained within, into a passing air stream.

Maybe it was just that I was talking to my wife on the phone at the time I
read this, but did anyone else think for just a moment that they were
reading from another site, like alt.sex.... :-O

I think I'll get a cup of coffee!!! (Maybe take up smoking too!)

Dav... I mean, "anonymous"

 Never give up your life for          #=======#         _____l___
 anything that death can take         |__|__|__\___    //__|__|__\___
 away.            -annonymous  __\ _  | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
                               O---O  "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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From: Lodelane <Lodelane@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:22:40 EDT
Subject: Parting out Series 3

A couple of months ago, Alex Maiolo listed a Series III on the net for parts.
I bought what was left and have finished disassembling it.  Believe me, there
was no saving this truck - it sat on the outer banks of NC without having the
sand and salt washed off.  Rust City.

Anyway, I have some bits that the missus (and the homeowners' association  8^)
) would prefer not to have hanging around.

Please e-mail me direct with your wants and I'll get back to you with
availability and price.

Thanks! and apologies for the commercialism.

Larry Smith
Chester, VA (USA)
lodelane@aol.com

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Mon, 18 May 98 15:37:41 EST
Subject: Re: Spring ahead

> Somewhere I saw this thin, plastic (Teflon?) slip-sheet that you place 
>between each leaf upon reassembly.  Needing springs in the near future 
>(and I hope I incur the wrath of Nigel's disease), has anyone else seen 
>this stuff?  Cheers

got a big ol roll of it here at work. Property of US gov't though. But you 
could get your own from McMaster Carr.

later
DaveB

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:40:24 -0400
Subject: Rag tops

nip
>I didn't realise your Land Rover is an 88. Yes, the lightweight's an 88,
>but I don't know if the canopy is the same as a standard 88,
snip

>No, the LightWeight and civilian 88 ragtops are different size. The
civilian rear tub is wider.

 Err I beg to differ, from personal experience I can assure you that the rag
top for a lightweight and a ser 2 or 3 88 are  interchangeable, as are the
sticks, frames etc. The width difference of approx .25 inches per side is
not noticable. Truck cabs and hard tops can also be interchanged with
impunity. The marginal difference is taken up in the clearance in the fixing
points. Rover themselves fit the tops without modicification.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:45:13 -0400
Subject: 88 Diesel front pipe question

Tom 
The petrol and diesel front pipes are very similar but the diesel pipe is
longer on the staright down part  It would be very easy to make a short
piece as an adaptor to use the petrol  front pipe in the diesel, or to cut
the petrol pipe and weld in a shorty piece since that is your specialty.
Bill Leacock  ( Limey in exile ) NY USA.
 88 and 109 LR's and 89 RR 

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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:51:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tub Disassembly/Spot Welds/Rebuilding

Hi All,
	This weekend I'll be pulling the tub off my swb parts rover. Any
words of wisdom before I start?
	I then will dissasemble it in order to install new rear panels and
a new rear quarter panel. I've removed rivits before, so that shouldn't be
a problem. What do I do to seperate pieces that are spot welded together?
	I plan to rivet it all back together - are pop-rivits strong
enough? I guess I can get the round-headed rivits somewhere - but is it a
real pain to hammer them while in a big piece such as a tub? Are there
special tools for setting these?
	The PO has an aluminum welder I can probably borrow - but I don't
know anything about it or how to use it - Is there a Al welding article or
website somewhere out there? A book maybe?

Thanks in Advance -
Peter (there's one of them there LRs growin' in my basement) Kaskan

-----------------------
Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:58:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Galvanising

	I used a propane torch like you've advised to heat the door skins
and liftgate skin - worked very nicely. Once hot I bent back the skins with
a hammer and/or a large screwdriver - also worked nicely.
	Now, I need to get the door bottoms repaired/replaced. Have any of
you had these pieces fabricated locally?
	Finally, I'd like to get the frames galvanised. Has anybody found
and used a place in the northeast for this, maybe upstate NY?

Happy Rovering - Peter K.

-----------------------
Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:02:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Liftgate Parts Needed

Anybody out there have the R and L stays w/brackets and the little
'hold-down' clips for a series IIA liftgate? Peter K.

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Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: "Peter M. Kaskan" <pmk11@cornell.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:16:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Painting - Primer Needed?

	I want to paint my roofsides and hardtop, and then eventually my
rebuilt 88in bed. There is only one coat of paint on there, I guess the
original.
	I've cleaned the HT and roofsides with soap and steel wool. There
are only a few little spots where it's down to the bare Al - there was some
sort of fungus stuff growing nicely there. Can I paint directly over this?
What does a primer actually do, help the paint stick and harden better?
	(I picked up an 'airless sprayer' at a yard sale this weekend for 2
dollars - I can't figure out if it works or if it is busted. It buzzes very
loudly when I pull the trigger. The little piston does move over the
orafice. To test it, I tried H2O in it. I thought it might not work because
the H2O isn't viscous enough - Any Ideas?)

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Peter M. Kaskan
Uris Hall 231
Dept. Of Psychology
Cornell University
607-255-3382
pmk11@cornell.edu
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From: Frankelson <Frankelson@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:44:44 EDT
Subject: Re: Parabolic Springs!

In a message dated 18/05/98  15:44:53, you write:

<< Call me a softie, but for my money parabolics are the way to go. >>

alright, yer a softie...... :-)>

A friend of mine has parabolics and swears by them rather than at them as with
the old style. I've driven in it (Ser 11) and it's at least as pleasant as my
own 110 with HD coils.

Go for it (them)!

best cheers

Frank

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From: Frankelson <Frankelson@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:44:43 EDT
Subject: Re: Spring ahead

The Teflon sheets used to be for sale in your customising shops when I was in
the States - admittedly many many years ago, but look there.
Do you have thin 'Releasing Oil'? over there? It is used to loosen off nuts
and bolts etc (a bit like WD40 but not a spray, a can with a little spout). We
used to use that on leaves - it 'creeps' between them, much better than
grease.

best cheers

Frank

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:15:11 +0200
Subject: Re: Tub Disassembly/Spot Welds/Rebuilding

Hi Peter,

If you have access to a welder - make a few steel bars with 1/4 or 5/6
nuts welded over holes in the bars to use when reassembling instead of
having to have one hand on the bolt, one hand on the spanner, one hand
on the nu, one hand on the washer, and one hand to lean on whilst
reaching around the tub. All my tub fixings are made in this way, and it
reduces the task to a one-man job - you'll see what I mean by Sunday
evening :-)

Good luck

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:20:30 +0200
Subject: Re: Liquid gaskets

Has anyone heard of or tried liquid gaskets? A spray bottle containing
what resembles silicone mastic, but especially made for engines, diffs,
gearboxes and the like. I am tryingh this stuff for the first time next
weekend.- Any words of wisdom out there on this one?

Adrian Redmond

CHANNEL 6 TELEVISION DENMARK       (Adrian Redmond)
Foerlevvej 6  Mesing  DK-8660  Skanderborg  Denmark
telephone (office)                  +45 86 57 22 66
telephone (home)                    +45 86 57 22 64
telefacsimile / data                +45 86 57 24 46
mobile GSM (EFP unit)               +45 40 74 75 64
mobile GSM (admin)                  +45 40 54 22 66
mobile NMT                          +45 30 86 75 66
e-mail                       channel6@post2.tele.dk
Visit our homepages!                www.channel6.dk

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From: Frankelson <Frankelson@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:18:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Liquid gaskets

In a message dated 18/05/98  21:49:45, you write:

<<  A spray bottle containing
 what resembles silicone mastic, but especially made for engines, diffs,
 gearboxes and the like. >>

Hi Adrian,
my friends and I have used it in loads of different places - but we get it in
tubes either little (toothpaste size) or mastic size and then use a mastic-
type gun.
 I personally think it often works better than a gasket 'cos it fills up
slight imperfections if you haven't cleaned the old gtasket off completely.
 Takes some handling though, try not to get it where you don't want it.

best cheers

Frank

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From: "Mark Oellermann" <marko@vrt.com.au>
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:09:23 +1000
Subject: RE: Use of Aluminium Nuts and Bolts

Brian,

I,ve been using a product called Duralac with good success on my 
SIII, and in marine applications on an aluminium boat. It's 
specifically designed as a jointing compound for dissimilar metals, 
originally for the aviation industry. I have used a variety of 
fasteners made from different types of metal through unpainted 
aluminium on the boat (gets regular use in salt water) which have 
been in place for up to ten years now with no sign of corrosion to 
the aluminium at all. I'll have a look this afternoon after work and 
dig out the manufacturers details.

Mark.
________________________

Mark Oellermann
Senior Systems Engineer
VRT Systems
Phone:	+617 3367 1388
Fax:	+617 3367 1295
E-mail:	marko@vrt.com.au
Web:	www.vrt.com.au
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From: JBISKY <JBISKY@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:13:08 EDT
Subject: What are symptoms of blown head gasket?

Besides the usual oil in coolant and coolant in oil, which mine has neither,
what are some other symptoms of a head gasket that's about to go completely?
My truck has gradually been loosing power, especially on any incline.  The
motor was recently rebuilt.  It idles and revs nice and smooth.  I've given it
a tune-up, oil, valves, air filter, etc.  and even switched the carb with a
spare.  The fuel pump is recent and so is the distributor, and yes the advance
is working.  I checked for binding brakes today and the only other things I
can think of is the head gasket or, dare I say it, a sticking valve. Any
Ideas?
Thanks in adv.
Jason Truscott 

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From: lndrvr@ldd.net (BRIAN WILLOUGHBY)
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 20:28:40 -0500
Subject: Smokey Mtn. Sighting

Was anyone on this list over in the Tennessee/North Carolina border area
over this past weekend?  A friend at work attended a big Toyota FJ conclave
over there and spotted what sounded like a Series One with a half cab. 
Both he and I are curious as to the identification of this vehicle.  I was
only able to tentatively I.D. it from his description; however, I showed
him the "Spotter's Guide" in the Rovers North catalogue and he said nothing
matched well.  Thanks in advance.

Brian
1960 Series II 88" S.W.

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From: "MARY THOMSON" <denthomson@sprint.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:05:50 -0400
Subject: The  saga continues.

I saw with my own two little eyes while I was sitting in my one of a kind "
best there was" "best there is" & "the best there ever will be" the mighty
Series 1. Now I will not lie because I did see this strange looking thing
moving up the driveway under it's own power (of which it had very little ) 
But it was the only one I have seen move for a long time. To be fair to all
that may posses one of these strange looking green sometimes black stuck in
the mud , parking lot , or was that a stream machines  with all due respect
to the Imports that posses  these fine works of art I will say no more and
go to bed dreaming "what the hell was that thing"  By the way I did take a
photo of one these things  a  video is not worth the effort as they don't
often move. Being the nice bloke I  an I will say no more.    Sweet Dreams.
         (Roo)

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From: RINGO JACK <RINGOJACK@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:01:43 EDT
Subject: dfsfsdfd

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From: Frankelson <Frankelson@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 03:52:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Smokey Mtn. Sighting

In a message dated 19/05/98  01:33:44, you write:

<< A friend at work attended a big Toyota FJ conclave >>

Hi Brian,

this friend, I've got one as well, and he's daft enough to run an FJ.
As you can imagine, in the UK he's pretty lonely (the FJ was never sold here).
Would your friend have details of an FJ owners club or whoever organised the
conclave I can pass to my friend?

best cheers

Frank

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From: Elwyn York <Elwyny@mailshuttle.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:00:39 +0100
Subject: For Sale

Hi Folks

A freind popped by today and mentioned he was selling his motor.  Here it is.

	Tax Exempt V8 Hybrid SWB

Full Rebuild, "90" Front, Disco Wheels, New Ragtop, 109" Brakes with servo,
Winch Front Bumper, CB Ariel, Dixon Bate Tow Hitch, Cadbury Purple Colour,
MG Metro Seats, Rear Wheel Carrier, SAT's, 1971 "K" Plate

... Too many bits to mention.  If you are interested then mail me (list or
direct) and i will pass on Mick's Telephone Number for you to speak to him.

EY
Landrover S3 LtWt & www.ey-eg.demon.co.uk

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