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1 4[not specified]
2 Lorri Paustian [lorri@so11Attn: Bob Barnard
3 "Jacobs J. (Johan)" [Jac31Car of the Century
4 "Ron Franklin" [oldhaven32109 FS
5 David Scheidt [david@mat22Re: Car of the Century
6 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us24TeriAnn's big adventure
7 NADdMD@aol.com 13Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
8 Adrian Redmond [channel633Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
9 Tom Coron [tcoron@nswc.n35Voltage Regulator Problem?
10 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo9Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
11 "J.M. Reinan" [jreinan@l26Re: Rochesters Suck
12 Mike MacDonald [mmacdona30Thanks! and- Carbs.....
13 AKBLACKLEY@aol.com 18Wiper Brcket
14 Tony Treace [atreace@HAS28RE: Thanks! and- Carbs.....
15 "Tackley, John" [jtackle9RE: Rochesters Suck
16 john cranfield [john.cra30Re: Wiper Brcket
17 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr22Re: overdrives
18 Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet15Re: overdrives
19 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo9Re:Uncle Roger's Losing it....
20 twakeman@scruznet.com (T80Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
21 "LT J Jackson" [lt_j_jac13SIII- Mounting a radio
22 DEFENDER@ibm.net 19Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
23 David Russell [David_R@m17[not specified]
24 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo30Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
25 jory bell [jory@mit.edu>16Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
26 Tim Thorpe [tim@ocelot.d36Re: Engine compression (again)
27 Bob Watson [bobw@microso35RE: Tubes in tubeless tires
28 Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lo16Re: Thanks! and- Carbs.....
29 Wayne Haight [whaight@ha29Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
30 BarrieWyLR@aol.com 11Re: 109 Truck Body
31 "Lowe, Dave J" [LoweDJ@B18RE: overdrives
32 "Adams, Bill" [badams@us20Wrench Party Update
33 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml25RE: SIII- Mounting a radio
34 DEFENDER@ibm.net 20Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
35 "Lowe, Dave J" [LoweDJ@B31RE: Frame coating
36 debrown@srp.gov 30Welcome Home!!!
37 Jeremy Bartlett [bartlet35Limited LR Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
38 dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.o11Re[2]: SIII- Mounting a radio
39 DEFENDER@ibm.net 17Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
40 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml20RE: SIII- Mounting a radio
41 DEFENDER@ibm.net 26Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
42 DEFENDER@ibm.net 15CB (AGAIN)
43 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml22RE: CB (AGAIN)
44 "Russell G. Dushin" [dus34genuine v. non-genuine springs
45 "barnett childress" [bar27re: CB (AGAIN)
46 DEFENDER@ibm.net 15Re: CB (AGAIN)
47 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml27RE: CB (AGAIN)
48 DEFENDER@ibm.net 21Re: CB (AGAIN)
49 Paul Quin [Paul_Quin@pml37RE: CB (AGAIN)
50 rover@pinn.net (Alexande16Where is...
51 Mike Johnson [johnsonm@b232.25 starter parts
52 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr17Re: overdrives
53 Uncle Roger [sinasohn@cr20Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
54 twakeman@scruznet.com (T50Heavy duty Dormobile roof racks
55 twakeman@scruznet.com (T40Re: Welcome Home!!!
56 john cranfield [john.cra19Re: 2.25 starter parts
57 Solihull@aol.com 22Re: 2.25 starter parts
58 Solihull [Solihull@aol.c24Scotty's and a six needed in GA
59 Daniel Oppenheim [daniel6Subscribe
60 "Richard Marsden"[rmarsd37Re: SIII- Mounting a radio
61 CIrvin1258@aol.com 15Re: TeriAnn's big adventure
62 Solihull@aol.com 21[not specified]


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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:04:21 -0800

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:14:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Lorri Paustian <lorri@sound.net>
Subject: Attn:  Bob Barnard

Didn't keep your private e-mail address.  Keith does have a new e-mail
address.  It is karmstrong@worldnet.att.net  
Lorri Paustian, Flatland Rover Society
Lenexa, Kansas
'95 Coniston Green D90 SW
'95 Arles Blue D90 SW

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From: "Jacobs J. (Johan)" <JacobsJ@syfrets.co.za>
Subject: Car of the Century
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:35:59 +0200

Hi there

The CAR Magazine of South Africa is running a competition for the "Car
of the Century". Their address is www.carmag.com and they invite people
to submit their idea of which car must carry the honorable title of "Car
of the Century".

In looking at the submissions to date, one will notice the distinct
omission of any Landrover product.

IMHO the "Car of the Century" must definitely be a Landrover and in that
my choice is the 1962 - 1968 Series IIA SWB.

Please access the site and submit your idea of what the "Car of the
Century" must be. Hopefully if enough enthusiasts submit their option,
then we can get the Landrover where it rightly belongs.

Johan Jacobs
Public Relations Officer
Cape Land Rover Club
+27 (21) 991288 (h)
+27 (21) 4882932 (w)
082 552 5852 (cell)
johanj@yebo.co.za
jacobsj@syfrets.co.za

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:44:53 -0500
Subject: 109 FS

My recent puchase of an '88 RR (These are getting into the series price 
range now), has caused one of my projects to fall off the end of the queue 
of things I can reasonably expect to do even if I live a very long time.  
So:

1959 Series II 109 pickup, not running but in very good original 
condition, including lots of features like 1 piece doors, large horn in fender, horn
push on steering column, arctic interior, screw type vents etc.  Frame is original and 
quite good with basically surface rust. Very minor footwell rust.
Seats need to be redone, body panels are
very good but unrestored. Needs wiring harness.  Includes 1 and 1/2 series II engines, and a
Koenig crankshaft driven winch which needs repair.  Also includes a new
Series II through the fender exhaust system.  Most of a 1961 SII 88 parts 
car with bad frame but engine that ran three years ago included, less some body parts I 
will remove.  This 109 needs a lot of
restoration work to be perfect but is a very rare example of an early S II
for the originality fan.  $5000.00 and not much bargaining since I really
like this one and want to get what I have in it or will keep it until 
insanity returns.
 It was  owned by a Maine guide and has
been stored inside for over 20 years.  Located near Brunswick in my barn, 
mid coast Maine.  207-666-5614

Ron Franklin

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:44:15 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <david@math.earlham.edu>
Subject: Re: Car of the Century

On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Jacobs J. (Johan) wrote:

> Hi there
> The CAR Magazine of South Africa is running a competition for the "Car
> of the Century". Their address is www.carmag.com and they invite people
> to submit their idea of which car must carry the honorable title of "Car
> of the Century".

Just had a look at this.  They have selected the 100 finalists.  the S1
80" makes the list, as does the Range Rover (the original one) .  They are
listed under Rover, right before the Sob^w SAAB. 

~David
--------
David_Scheidt@math.earlham.edu

yip yip yip yap yap yak yap yip *BANG*  -- no terrier

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 8:15:04 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: TeriAnn's big adventure

Thanks for doing what we all wish we could do...go off on a wild west 
safari in our trucks. I hope you got some great photos and that they make 
you a pile of money. Leave it to Land-Rover to get you there and back 
again, despite having an engine fall out the bottom ( Let's see...how 
many 30-year-old vehicles can you name that will still get you down the 
trail with the engine sitting on the front axle? ), a roofrack do an endo 
onto your bonnet, and a wing fold up ( so much for painting the truck).
I'm sure the next time you do this your spares box will be a bit more 
full.

Three cheers for TeriAnn!!!

BTW, why do you California folk need windscreen wipers?

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:20:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

In a message dated 97-10-30 08:18:25 EST, you write:

<< BTW, why do you California folk need windscreen wipers? >>
 
Because "when it pours, man it pours"

Nate (or is that poors?)

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:37:56 +0100
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

Nice one TerAnn!

It was encouraging to read you story - I've just got home from a month
in Alaska, wishing all the time that I has one of my Land Rovers with me
- so you have done what we all dream of.

How about posting some of your photos so we can see them? I'm sure lots
of us would enjoy that!

Keep on roverin' T.A.!

Adrian Redmond

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:11:59 -0500
From: Tom Coron <tcoron@nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: Voltage Regulator Problem?

LRO's - My dynamo appeared to be barely charging, reading
dead center when running, but dropping way down when any
electrical equipment was on, like headlights, heater, etc.
Pulled the dynamo and found a broken brush spring. Replaced
the brushes, and used an old spring from the starter motor.

Still not charging, I popped the Voltage regulator cover to
go thru the checks in the Haynes manual. Lo & behold, there 
were only 2 relays inside, with no adjustment devices visible.
Looked closer at the case & it looks like it says "Haringer"
or something like that, made in Germany.

After cleaning all sorts of connections, relays, etc, it 
suddenly started charging, putting out enough current to
drive headlights, blower, etc all at the same time!

On the way home from work, I noticed that it was not charging
again. Revved up the motor, and it suddenly is charging again.

1. Does anyone know anything about this type regulator?

2. Is it necessary to "polarize" a dynamo after removing/reinstalling,
   as was necessary many years ago on my 56 Ford Victoria?

Sorry for the length of this - hope the Major doesn't amputate
too much of it.

Tom Coron
King George, Va
66 IIA SWB RHD

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:18:12 -0500
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

California Dreamin' again, Nate?

          ajr

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:49:59 -0700
From: "J.M. Reinan" <jreinan@lawyernet.com>
Subject: Re: Rochesters Suck

Hey, John T:

I think it's time that we start to disparage the old Rochesters, rather
than praise them.  Not because the Rochester is a bad chunk of tin, but
because we don't want some other young Turk to install one in his
newly-rebuilt 2.25 and kick our collective asses at the next meet.

Jay Reinan

'64 Series IIA  "Rochester Powered"  (anybody have a sticker that says
this?)
'61 Willys UT "The one that made it out of the Denver Blizzard"
'62 Willys PU "The one that my neigbors Love to Hate"
'91 Jag XJS C "The one I pulled out of the Denver Blizzard with #2
above"

P.S.  For those of you who may get indignant over the fact that the
Willys is the only one of my vehicles to weather the recent storm, I
will note that the ol' Rover is down in S. Colorado receiving a new rear
end, which it decided to spew forth during a recent trip to visit my
parents.  I therefore had little choice in the matter.

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From: Mike MacDonald <mmacdonald@laserdirect.com>
Subject: Thanks! and- Carbs.....
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:39:05 -0800

First off let me thank those of you who offered up advice and tips on my
recent charging system question(s) - I now have the beast charging and
nothing dims out when I turn something else on!  Installation of a new
alternator (one that works) was the answer.

Next I wanted to thank Terri Ann for her description of her recent
odyssey.  It was very enjoyable to read the account and I appreciate her
taking time to write it up for us.

Lastly, a recent posting from someone about how their vehicle didn't run
well, and then only with half (or more) choke got me thinking that "yep,
I have that problem too, I just haven't gotten around to working on it
yet...".  So now I am.

The carb on my '57 88" 2.0L engine reads "Made in  St. Louis by Carter
Carburetor Corp.   Model W-O   146-249".  Now I've heard talk of Zeniths
and Solex', but no talk of Carters.  My shop manual pictures (of the
carb) don't look like my carb.  Any idea what's up here?  Is this a
stock carb?  Anyone have any experience with it?  Know where I can find
adjustment/repair information about it?  Anything???

Thanks,
Mike MacDonald
1957 Series I 88"  -  don Quixote

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:51:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Wiper Brcket

Terriann: The dual wiper motor has a round body, right? This motor was used
on many English sportscars, and my RR parts catalog lists it for the rear
wiper motor. I have scrounged a few from post 68 MGBs.  They come with the
bracket and a rubber pad that goes between the motor and bulkhead. I might
still have one if you cant find one locally, let me know. If you find a 'B in
the boneyard I think that the wiper boxes are also the same as the late SIIA,
and maybe the rack and cable system is too, but I havent actaully tried to
swap one into a LR. Other than drilling holes in the bulkhead to mount the
motor it should be an easy enough project. I dont have a Moss or Victoria
Brit. catalog handy but I recollect that they might have a Lucas three
position switch. I see Rovers North carries the part, #575146, but they want
$51.16 for it. Ouch! Hope this helps. Regards. Andy Blackley

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From: Tony Treace <atreace@HASimons.com>
Subject: RE: Thanks! and- Carbs.....
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:30:39 -0800

> The carb on my '57 88" 2.0L engine reads "Made in  St. Louis by Carter
> Carburetor Corp.   Model W-O   146-249".  Now I've heard talk of
> Zeniths
> and Solex', but no talk of Carters.  My shop manual pictures (of the
> carb) don't look like my carb.  Any idea what's up here?  Is this a
> stock carb?  Anyone have any experience with it?  Know where I can
> find
> adjustment/repair information about it?  Anything???

Sounds like you are in the same position I was in about 5 months ago. I
acquired a 1951 S1 80" that came with a Carter W-O. It must have been a
popular replacement carb for S1's about 20-30 years ago. The original
carb for a Series 1 was a Solex 32PBI-2, which looks like about a 2/3
scale version of the Solex that came on S2/S2A (not interchangeable).
After about 4 months of research, I think I have looked at about every
option when it comes to S1 carb replacement (original Solex/replacement
Solex/Weber/Carter). If I can be of any assistance, please contact me
directly.

Tony Treace
1967 109 SW
1951 80 HT

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From: "Tackley, John" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Subject: RE: Rochesters Suck
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:34:20 -0500

Hey, J.M.R.

What? a Rochester ??  Yuck -- Phhhitooooeeee....

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:05:05 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Wiper Brcket

AKBLACKLEY@aol.com wrote:
> Terriann: The dual wiper motor has a round body, right? This motor was used
> on many English sportscars, and my RR parts catalog lists it for the rear
> wiper motor. I have scrounged a few from post 68 MGBs.  They come with the
> bracket and a rubber pad that goes between the motor and bulkhead. I might

 The wiper system from other british is the same in many respects but
each will have it's variations in the angle of sweep and the length of
the operating cable even the one on the D90 isn't quite the same. In
order to change to sweep angle the stroke of the cable is different and
this is done at gear wheel that is turned by the motor. The pivot point
for the "connecting rod" is moved closer or further from the center of
the gear. If you have a good one off an MG etc you can put in the gears
off the series III and be good as new. You will have to use L-R
cables.     John and
Muddy                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
  still have one if you cant find one locally, let me know. If you find
a 'B in
> the boneyard I think that the wiper boxes are also the same as the late SIIA,
> and maybe the rack and cable system is too, but I havent actaully tried to
> swap one into a LR. Other than drilling holes in the bulkhead to mount the
> motor it should be an easy enough project. I dont have a Moss or Victoria
> Brit. catalog handy but I recollect that they might have a Lucas three
> position switch. I see Rovers North carries the part, #575146, but they want
> $51.16 for it. Ouch! Hope this helps. Regards. Andy Blackley

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:47:18 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: overdrives

At 03:23 PM 10/29/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I wonder if any one has an easy way to ID the two type overdrives.

The Non-Fairey (Of course, I can't think of what it's called at the moment!)
that I have has a dipstick on the top for checking the oil.  The shift lever
is basically a round stick of metal, threaded on the end.  I goes through a
little vertical flat piece with a nut on either side.  

I think the dipstick is the real identifying piece.

(And what the heck is it called?  It's not Koenig (that's the winch) and
it's not Juno (that's the email) but I just can't think of it.)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@ricochet.net                        that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:51:51 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: overdrives

Uncle Roger wrote:

> (And what the heck is it called?  It's not Koenig (that's the winch) and
> it's not Juno (that's the email) but I just can't think of it.)

Toro/Bearmach I believe.

cheers

Jeremy

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:54:25 -0500
Subject: Re:Uncle Roger's Losing it....

Toro, of course - same as the abominable snowblowers sold in the USA....

               aj"Wouldn't have one...I like predictable failures!"r

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:26:22 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

At  8:15 AM 10/30/97 -0500, Adams, Bill wrote:

>Thanks for doing what we all wish we could do...go off on a wild west
>safari in our trucks.
;
You don't understand. The hard part was coming back from reality into an
artificial world where society is feeding us anxieties and where we freely
give our life's allocation of time to companys that look at us as renewable
resources not people.  The easy part was going.  Unfortunalty without in
income, staying would become the hard part. ... Going back to work is going
to be hard.

>I'm sure the next time you do this your spares box will be a bit more
>full.

I doubt it.  I was carrying a new fan belt, special radiator hoses, fuel
filters and lots of oil.  I'm a great believer in making sure your car is
in very good mechanical condition before leaving so you don't need to
replace the parts you should have earlier while on the road.  My only
planned work was checking & topping off fluids, changing oil & greasing
fittings.

The bending of the inner wing was me not knowing how far the wheel traveled
at full upper articulation with the wheel fully turned outward.  I figured
it missed it by one turn of the adjusting screw.

The roof rack falling on the spare was a result of a thief.

The engine mounts sheering was a result of a bolt with a lock washer
working itself lose & falling off.  I can not carry a spare of every bolt
on the car.  The old mounts were only a few years old & in good condition
when I left.  Replacing them without replacing the bolt would have sheared
the new ones.

I'm still a believer in preventitive maintenence and knowing the condition
of your car and not pushing the car's condition envelope.

>Three cheers for TeriAnn!!!
;
Thanks Bill.  I hope I don't seem too negative about your show of support.
I really do appriciate it.  But this trip has given me time to get in
closer touch with myself and what I value.  I'm not sure what will become
of briefly leaving the trenches that we each dig for ourselves during our
daily routines.  I hope, pray for something, but I'm afraid nothing will
happen.

I saw too many infirm people a decade or less older then me who had
dutifully manned their daily trenches, putting off life for later.  Later
had finally come and they were going down the list of places they wanted to
go.  Getting out of the cars/tour buses; going through the visitor centre;
taking pictures of each other in front of the sign that says they were
there; then looking at what they could see from the centre because they
were not physically able to do more.  I worry that I may be looking at the
future and it scares me.

I have a poster on the wall by my home computer.  Its of Amelia Earhart
posing under an engine of her Lockheed aircraft.  Everyone should have a
hero, even today.  Underneath her picture is a quote of hers:

" How can life grant us the boon of living ... unless we dare"

>BTW, why do you California folk need windscreen wipers?

I'm not sure.  It could be because the motor vehical code requires it.  It
may have to do with the fact that I live on the west side of a mountain
range facing the ocean & receive well over 30 inches of rain a year, most
during  the winter 6 months.  I'll have to think about it ;*)

Take care,

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh."

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Date: 30 Oct 1997 13:31:11 -0400
From: "LT J Jackson" <lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu>
Subject: SIII-  Mounting a radio

Does anyone have pointers for mounting a stereo in an SIII?  I'd rather stay
away from the under-dash slide mount things.  Any better ideas out there?   

Rgds,

Jeff Jackson
Waterford, CT 
73 SIII 88 (Camilla)

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:40:20 -0800
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

What about a TUFFY console?
LT J Jackson wrote:

> Does anyone have pointers for mounting a stereo in an SIII?  I'd
> rather stay
> away from the under-dash slide mount things.  Any better ideas out
> there?
> Rgds,
> Jeff Jackson

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> Waterford, CT
> 73 SIII 88 (Camilla)

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Subject: genuine v. non-genuine springs
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 13:51:09 -0500
From: David Russell <David_R@mindspring.com>

While I've got nothing on my new frame, I'm going to replace the springs 
(88"SW). One source swears by the Genuine LR springs but the cost has 
made me consider non-Genuine. What's the list think? I'd definitely pay 
for the Genuine if they'll last longer.

Thanks

David Russell
http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r
David_R@mindspring.com
1969 SIIA SWB (Pastel Green, 4-speed)
1997 SD (Oxford Blue, 5-speed)
1977 FJ40 (rust, 8-speed (hopefully still))

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:43:11 -0500
Subject: Re: SIII- Mounting a radio

Jeff!

Ah, a leader into my favorite subject - stereos in Land-Rovers! 8*)

Personally, I have an overhead console that sits on the inside galvanized
edge of my pickup roof. It's a walnut board (matches the dash - and I do
NOT want to hear it Dixon!) with a tweed-covered front edge, cut to fit the
curve of the roof and held in place with through bolts through the
windshield frame into teenuts.

This contains a Clarion stereo with a Yamaha amp and Clarion speakers, as
well as my 2-meter ham transciever slung underneath.

Power wiring comes up the center of the windshield to a detatchable plug.
The center bar of the windshield was removed, RTVed to 2 lengths of small
aluminum channel, and reinstalled with longer screws leaving a voluminous
passage for wiring. The various coaxials run along the top of the
passenger's door then down behind the seatbelt mounts to BNC bulkhead
connectors mounted in the box just aft of the seat base. These have coaxial
cables running from them to the various antennas.

Works great in -10F to 110F - no problems at all.

                         AJ"WHAAAT?!?!"r

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:48:58 -0800
From: jory bell <jory@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

here is something i wanted to do:

i have a radio with a removable faceplate/display. to make a long story
short, i wanted to mount just he faceplate flush in the area over the
driver's windscreen, then tuck the radio away somewhere out of sight and
connect the two with a ribbon cable.

::jory

>Does anyone have pointers for mounting a stereo in an SIII?  I'd rather stay
>away from the under-dash slide mount things.  Any better ideas out there?

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 18:21:03 GMT
From: Tim Thorpe <tim@ocelot.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Engine compression (again)

Duncan said:

>I have a square bump on my cylinder head with a faint '8' stamped on it
>HOWEVER...when I use 8:1 spark plugs and set the timing for 8:1 it
>backfires and runs terribly, leading me to believe that it's actually a 7:1.
>My question is this: how can I work out the compression ratio - I theorised
>that, as it's a normally-aspirated engine, then the pressure at the bottom
>of the stroke is ambient (1 bar), so, if I find the pressure at the top of
>the stroke (again in bar), then I'll have the compression ratio. 
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 12 lines)]
>buying a compression gauge to do the test - would this be the right
>procedure??

The Haynes manual says 7:1 145 lb/in^2
                       8:1 160-170 lb/in^2

Having established that mine must be 8:1 (thanks everyone) I 
did wonder why my compressions are between 10 and 11 bar, about
one bar short, but decided that this is probably the least
of my problems.

Did you use static timing? I tried using a strobe thing
and it took someone to point out to me that it is important
to set the timing at the specified rpm (550 IIRC). Mine had
been set to idle faster, which made nonsense of the timing.
You must disconnect the vacuum advance, too.

Tim.

Tim Thorpe	                        Tel: +44 1223 240366 
tim@ocelot.demon.co.uk                  Fax: +44 1223 414402

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From: Bob Watson <bobw@microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: Tubes in tubeless tires
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:28:55 -0800

I've heard that, depending on the tubeless tire (tyre) some may not work
well with tubes as they apparently some can chafe the tube causing
failure (I've not seen this, but that's what I've heard). OTOH, I've
heard that carrying tubes as an emergency measure (e.g. to reseat the
bead or get running on a tire with sidewall or tread damage, is OK.
(which reminds me, I need to get some for that reason).

WRT seating a bead, that's not as bad as it might sound. The trick is to
clean the bead seat of any dirt, mud, etc. Wrap a ratchet strap around
the center of the tread and tighten it. This should get the tire bead up
against the rim, then using some compressed air (not much is required if
the tire->rim seal is decent, the bead will seat. I've done this and
inflated a 235/75R15 tire to 30 psi with only 5 gal. of compressed air.
Of course if the bead comes off, you could also insert your spare tube
and start pumping. (I've yet to try this, though).

-- Bob W.
'95 Disco.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig  Murray <craigm@bcn.com.au>
> Subject: Tyres
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:29:04 +1100
> Hello All,
> 	Tyres, tyres, tyres, where to begin.
> 	16x5"rims, technically you are not meant to run anything bigger
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 29 lines)]
> bush with tubeless tyres.
> enough said.

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From: Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:18:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Thanks! and- Carbs.....

Re: The gent with the Carter carburettor:

Has anyone thought of trying the ever-faithful Weber as a replacement on
these engines? Seems to me that a bit of a jetting reduction would make
this an admirable swap-on, and easily available to boot.

Reverse the linkage a la Series IIa and it should fit with a IIa adapter
base.

     Just a thought - Alan

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Date: 	Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:07:03 -1000
From: Wayne Haight <whaight@hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

Aloha,

When I bought my 1970 Series IIA SWB it had a junk Radio Shack radio
mounted in the cutout under the steering wheel. I ordered a Kenwood 120W
Tuner/CD player, Polk round door speakers and Blaupunkt 6x9 rectangular
speakers from Crutchfield. The stereo was mounted in the same place as
the old one - in the cutout under the steering wheel. I padded the whole
thing with black foam pipe insulation, mounted the round speakers on a
wooden frame in the front door cutouts, and mounted the rear rectangular
speakers to the inside tailight covers. The only holes I drilled were
for the rear mounts (2 in each cover). Everything was cusioned with
black foam pipe insulation. Everything looks great, and it will be very
easy to take out should I want to replace it. I have plenty of power to
overcome highway Rover-howl, and nothing gets in the way. The only
caveat if you do this is to find a stereo that's not so deep as to get
in the way of your knees (mine doesn't). 

Good luck!
-- 
Wayne R. Haight (Kololohi - 1970 IIA SWB, Koenig PTO winch, Fairey OD)
Senior Fisheries Research Specialist
Joint Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research
2570 Dole Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

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From: BarrieWyLR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:07:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: 109 Truck Body

Hi Mark,  Do you still have the 109.  If so, what year & series is it.  What
price range are you thinking.  My brother can pick it up for me.  E-mail me
direct or call 307-742-9145. I'm in the middle of moving.

LATER bARRIE

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From: "Lowe, Dave J" <LoweDJ@BP.com>
Subject: RE: overdrives
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:03:57 -0500

Maybe it is a TORO.  They are similar to Fairey's but are no longer
made.

> ----------
> From: 	bobnsueb@maxinet.com[SMTP:bobnsueb@maxinet.com]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, October 29, 1997 2:23 PM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	overdrives

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 28 lines)]
> Thanks for the help,
> Bob Bernard

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:02:07 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Wrench Party Update

To those of you who have graciously offered to come over on saturday to 
help re-bush the 109, many advance thanks...I'll be starting as early as 
I can, as the weather threatens on Sunday. I'll be providing lunch and 
beverages, perhaps we'll do a bonfire later.
In addition, if you are thinking of joining the other DC locals at 
Marrakesh Restaurant on November 15th, please let me know before 
wednesday next week so that I can get a reservation in.

For more information, e-mail me.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon,
'81 Honda Goldwing 1100 Standard:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: SIII-  Mounting a radio
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:21:21 -0800

In the summer time here in Victoria, we run our Rovers around topless
for about 3 months so expensive radio's are out.  I find that REALLY
cheep radio's and speakers (less than $50.00)  are left untouched by
potential thieves...

I know, sound quality sucks, but it's better than a bunch of cut wires
and a big hole!

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Wayne Haight [SMTP:whaight@hawaii.edu]
>Sent:	Thursday, October 30, 1997 10:07 AM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 33 lines)]
>2570 Dole Street
>Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:34:06 -0800
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

Paul Quin wrote:

> In the summer time here in Victoria, we run our Rovers around topless
> for about 3 months so expensive radio's are out.  I find that REALLY
> cheep radio's and speakers (less than $50.00)  are left untouched by
> potential thieves...
> I know, sound quality sucks, but it's better than a bunch of cut wires
> and a big hole!

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
> >2570 Dole Street
> >Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

   A good tuffy console would solve that problem.

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From: "Lowe, Dave J" <LoweDJ@BP.com>
Subject: RE: Frame coating
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:01:31 -0500

I am considering a frame over and had planned to coat the whole thing
inside and out with marine epoxy.  It is around $50-75/gallon.  Use the
kind that is designed for steel ships.  It is very tough, has built n
corrossion inhibitors, and completely seals the frame by encapsulation.
I had planned to coat the inside by using a snake like they use to run
wire in conduit to push a spray nozzle up into the length of the frame.
It is important to coat both the inside and outside with a couple of
coats to get full corrosion resistance.  If you take the time before the
fram is installed to do this, you should have a lifetime frame.

Dave Lowe

66 109 Safari Wago
68 109 NADA Safari Wagom
Alaska

> ----------
> From: 	jory bell[SMTP:jory@mit.edu]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, October 29, 1997 3:36 PM
> To: 	lro@playground.sun.com
> Subject: 	Re: Frame coating

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 24 lines)]
> a
> >new frame I was wondering if anyone had done this or had any tips.

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 30 Oct 97 13:54:33 MST
Subject: Welcome Home!!!

From: <debrown@srp.gov>
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
                                    Pers. E-mail: rovernut@hotmail.com
TeriAnn,

We're glad your back, and safe. Sounds like a wonderful trip!! I'm anxious
to hear all about it!

BTW, were you traveling South - entering Flagstaff on Saturday the 11th of
October?? (That would have been from Page I think.) I passed by (going
North) a 109, that returned a wave... was that you? I was driving my
Limestone 5 door. It did snow and hail that day too!! Very interesting!

Dave Brown (It really *is* a small world, isn't it?)

P.S. I got a solid offer for "Shake-n-bake", my 109 at $8500. If all goes
well (or is it really "well??") it'll be sold soon. Heavy sigh... I'm really
going to miss her. :-(

 Never give up your life for          #=======#         _____l___
 anything that death can take away.   |__|__|__\___    //__|__|__\___
                        -anonymous    | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ - _|}
                                      "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:05:47 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Limited LR Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> The hard part was coming back from reality into an
> artificial world where society is feeding us anxieties and where we freely
> give our life's allocation of time to companys that look at us as renewable
> resources not people.

Exactly.  I think the most valuable trick is to find a company or workplace
where one's time is spent enjoyably.  If one is miserable at work... well
just forget it... that's a waste of life .. in the long run it ends up
destroying everything
else.  I think one of the luxuries many of us have is that, often, it's
actually possible
to decide, within limits, what kind of work one will do.  Unless one gets some
pretty major side benefits out of "working in hell" just what exactly does one
look back on?
Personally I don't think I can currently afford to become "itinerant" but I
think
I can afford a poorer but happier (?) job.... time will tell.

> The engine mounts sheering was a result of a bolt with a lock washer
> working itself lose & falling off.

I tend, nowadays, to put aero nuts onto almost everything instead of
lockwashers because I find them less prone to vibration loosening. .... might
be worth trying.

cheers

Jeremy

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From: dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 16:06:11 EST
Subject: Re[2]: SIII-  Mounting a radio

>>>   A good tuffy console would solve that problem.

Doubt it. those only keep the honest thieves out...

DaveB.

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:17:29 -0800
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

Well, what I have found is that if they get into the tuffy, they are
making enough noise to wake me up.  At that point, I am headed out the
door with a gun.  Also, 'some' protection is better than none.  I had to
break into a tuffy that I lost the key to and it wasn't the easiest
thing to do.  You realy have to tear it up.

dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org wrote:

> >>>   A good tuffy console would solve that problem.
> Doubt it. those only keep the honest thieves out...
> DaveB.

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: SIII-  Mounting a radio
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:24:35 -0800

It's a moot point anyway 'cause I wanna keep the middle seat!

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	DEFENDER@ibm.net [SMTP:DEFENDER@ibm.net]
>Well, what I have found is that if they get into the tuffy, they are
>making enough noise to wake me up.  At that point, I am headed out the
>door with a gun.  Also, 'some' protection is better than none.  I had to
>break into a tuffy that I lost the key to and it wasn't the easiest
>thing to do.  You realy have to tear it up.
	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 17 lines)]
>> Doubt it. those only keep the honest thieves out...
>> DaveB.

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:29:58 -0800
Subject: Re: SIII-  Mounting a radio

Yea, it is nice to be able to seat more than 2.  I have a Jeep that only
has the 2 front seat.  I realy do not like playing taxi but if my girl
friends sister or anyone else wants a ride....  I am probably a little
annal about security.  Not only is my radio in a tuffy, but I always
take the face out befor I lock it up!  So, after they take the time to
break into the tuffy, avoiding being shot, they get equipment that can
not be used.

Paul Quin wrote:

> It's a moot point anyway 'cause I wanna keep the middle seat!
> Paul.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  DEFENDER@ibm.net [SMTP:DEFENDER@ibm.net]
>          [ truncated by lro-lite (was 17 lines)]
> >> >>>   A good tuffy console would solve that problem.

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 11 lines)]
> >> Doubt it. those only keep the honest thieves out...
> >> DaveB.

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:33:31 -0800
Subject: CB (AGAIN)

I posted a message recently inquiring about cb's.  I am wondering what
some of you have had the most effective use out of.  I am wanting to get
the best cb/antenna combo.  Do you guys have any suggestions?  I
understand that the best distance I am going to be able to get is 5
miles.  Is this correct?

William Pittman

1997 D90 WAGON

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: CB (AGAIN)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:39:35 -0800

If you get a SSB (Single Side Band) capable radio, your effective range
is 12 miles or more, but you're limited to talking to people that also
have SSB.  Of course if the sun spots are popping, you can talk across
the country! (ionosphere bounce)

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	DEFENDER@ibm.net [SMTP:DEFENDER@ibm.net]
>Sent:	Thursday, October 30, 1997 4:34 PM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	CB (AGAIN)

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 20 lines)]
>William Pittman
>1997 D90 WAGON

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@primail.pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: genuine v. non-genuine springs
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 16:41:48 EST

David Russell wrote:

***
While I've got nothing on my new frame, I'm going to replace the springs 
(88"SW). One source swears by the Genuine LR springs but the cost has 
made me consider non-Genuine. What's the list think? I'd definitely pay 
for the Genuine if they'll last longer.
***

The last set of genuine springs I purchased and paid dearly for 
began to split after about 3 years of normal (not heavy) use.  At that time 
they came with *clamped* not *bolted* clamps, and the damned clamp began
to widen and the leaves split.  Absolute garbage of a part, IMNSHO, and 
probably made in some way overpopulated country with predictable but ignored
flood seasons (not to mention an ample supply of low quality steel)
....I've since replaced them with rebuilt originals.

IF you have half decent original springs (with the bolt on clamps)
you may wish to consider having them rebuilt at a reputable spring
shop before you take your chances with the crappy parts LR is
slapping the "genuine" label on.

The non-genuine springs I've seen appear to be identical in all
respects to the genuine ones I bought.  If you can get them cheap
they may be worth it, but don't expect more than 5 years of life out
of them.

rd/nige

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 16:34:42 -0500
From: "barnett childress" <barnett=childress%eng%emchop1@fishbowl02.lss.emc.com>
Subject: re: CB (AGAIN)

William,
I bought a K40 CB and antenna and installed it in my D90 ragtop a few 
months ago. It's small so you can mount it in a lot of different places. I 
mounted it under the dash to the right of the transmission shift lever. I'm 
now fabing a bracket to move it to the top of the windscreen between the 
visors. This will give a little more room for long legged passengers, make 
it a little easier to reach, and maybe even make it easier to hear at speed 
with the top off without having to get an external speaker. I mounted the 
antenna bracket to one of the bolts securing the top spare tire carrier 
hinge to the body capping. No holes drilled. I routed the coax thru the 
rear speaker grommet in the wheel box, behind the speaker and out thru the 
relief in the soft top for the tire carrier bracket. So far the unit has 
worked great.
Cheers,
Barnett
95 D90 (Ol' Yeller)
________ Reply Separator ______
> From: <DEFENDER@ibm.net>, on 10/30/97 7:33 PM:
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> 1997 D90 WAGON
> l

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:07:40 -0800
Subject: Re: CB (AGAIN)

Paul and Quin,

thanks for the reply.  How 'popular' is the SSB?  I am looking at
several models and they all have it.  It looks like, if you get a
'descent' model, you get SSB.

William Pittman

1997 D90 WAGON

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: CB (AGAIN)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:13:55 -0800

Hey Good Buddy!
William & Pittman

Actually, up here in Canada, CB's are not very popular anymore. Most
long haul truckers still have them but that's about it.  I'm not even
sure if the emergency channel (9) is monitored anymore.  Anyone?  I use
VHF on my sailboat.  It provides much better sound quality and noise
suppression (FM) and greater range (25 watts vs 4/12 watts for CB)

Paul (&Quin?)

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	DEFENDER@ibm.net [SMTP:DEFENDER@ibm.net]
>Paul and Quin,
>thanks for the reply.  How 'popular' is the SSB?  I am looking at
>several models and they all have it.  It looks like, if you get a
>'descent' model, you get SSB.

	 [ truncated by list-digester (was 15 lines)]
>William Pittman
>1997 D90 WAGON

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From: DEFENDER@ibm.net
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:37:33 -0800
Subject: Re: CB (AGAIN)

Paul,

Ok, you lost me.  I am not verry 'enlightened' when it comes to cb's and
radio frequencies as is.  Are you talking ham?  I am thinking of taking
the class that is required to legally use HAM.  Again, I am just getting
into this and am not sure of what is the best way to go.  A local dealer
told me that they carry a CB/HAM combo that should work pretty well.  I
am not quite sure of how it works going between the different
frequencies.  Also, I want to have what most other rigs are going to
have.  If you have the most expensive communications unit in the world
but only one other person has it........

William Pittman

1997 D90 WAGON

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From: Paul Quin <Paul_Quin@pml.com>
Subject: RE: CB (AGAIN)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:51:41 -0800

Sorry, 

My experience with HAM is very limited.  HAM is used primarily by radio
amateurs for long distance communications - if you have the right
equipment, you can talk around the world.  But that's getting really
expan$ive!

VHF is a basically a band of frequencies designated for use by
commercial users (taxi's etc.) and marine traffic.

If you want to talk to other people on the highway, I'd recommend just
sticking to CB but do get one with SSB as it is very useful.  Get a book
on the subject, the library should be full of them.

For successful use of a CB on your Landy, probably the most important
item will be the antenna and its correct placement & tuning.  There are
whole books written on the subject!

Hope this helps!

Paul.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	DEFENDER@ibm.net [SMTP:DEFENDER@ibm.net]
>Sent:	Thursday, October 30, 1997 5:38 PM
>To:	lro@playground.sun.com
>Subject:	Re: CB (AGAIN)

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>William Pittman
>1997 D90 WAGON

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:37:48 -0500 (EST)
From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice)
Subject: Where is...

Hank Lapa...could you contact me?  I'm lost your address.  Cheers

      *---"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----*
      |               A. P. (Sandy) Grice                  | 
      |     Rover Owners' Association of Virginia, Ltd.    |
      |   "The oldest Rover-marque club in the Americas"   |
      |    1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730    |
      |  E-mail: rover@pinn.net  Phone: 757-622-7054 (Day) |
      |    757-423-4898 (Evenings)    FAX: 757-622-7056    |
      |                                                    |
      *---1972 Series III 88"-----1996 Discovery SE-7(m)---*

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:18:59 -0500
From: Mike Johnson <johnsonm@borg.com>
Subject: 2.25 starter parts

Does any one know where I can get the positive connection post that the hot
wire bolts to?  Mine has rounded off inside and broke the wires that connect
to the brushes.  I also need the little plastic insulator gadget too.  I
hate to get a new starter ( $ 149 from AB ) for a buck worth of bolt and
plastic...

It was fine during the summer without a starter,  been out of order since
June,  but the cold mornings here in upstate New York are making it kinda rough.

If all else fails I may try to make the parts.  All I need is a bolt and a
washer that's too small,  drill out the washer, press together, saw a slot
in one end to affix/solder the brush wire and fit some rubber grommets.

TIA
end
Mike Johnson  N7WBO
74 SIII 88 (Chester)
http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:35:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: overdrives

At 09:51 AM 10/30/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> (And what the heck is it called?  It's not Koenig (that's the winch) and
>> it's not Juno (that's the email) but I just can't think of it.)
>Toro/Bearmach I believe.
 
Thanks!  That's it.  It was bugging me all night!  (I hate it when that
happens!)

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@ricochet.net                        that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:35:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

At 08:15 AM 10/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks for doing what we all wish we could do...go off on a wild west 
>safari in our trucks. I hope you got some great photos and that they make 
>you a pile of money. Leave it to Land-Rover to get you there and back 
 
I agree!  Thanks for keeping the dream alive for the rest of us!  

>BTW, why do you California folk need windscreen wipers?
 
One word:  El Nino

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@ricochet.net                        that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:45:12 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Heavy duty Dormobile roof racks

I am currently working with British Pacific to develop a Dormobile roof
rack that is stronger that anything I know of that was commercially
available for a Dormobile.

We are basing it on a partial series rack that has a jig already built up
to minimize design costs.  It will sit just in front of the pop up and
extend over the windscreen.  The front mounts will attach to the bolts at
the base of the wind screen. This provides additional weight capacity.
Roof racks mounted above the windscreen can cause the windscreen to crack
when doing rough driving with a heavy load. There will be a number of
diagonal braces for increased rigidity.  Except for the rectangular base,
the tubes will be rectangular 3/4 inch tubing.  Bungie cords should fit
this fine.

The roof rack will be easily removable.  It will have gutter clamps at the
rear mounts, and a quick release at the front mounts so you will not have
to deal with the lower windscreen bolts every time you with to mount or
remove the rack.

One of the design goals is for the top of the rack to sit just a little
higher than the lowered roof vent to protect the top.

Another is for it to have the strength and stability for me to be able to
stand on it with my large format camera to take pictures.

A third design goal is for there to be clearence for my Manatec snorkle.

Steve doesn't know this yet, but I will be providing him with drawings for
optional bolt on roof lighting mounts based upon the pictures I have taken
of Camel Trophy D110s.

The rack will be galvanized.

Steve at British Pacific is getting figuring a cost now.  Its currently
being done as a custom rack for me, but I suspect that once we get one that
I'm happy with, they could make more.

This could be a chance to equip your Dormobile with the heaviest duty roof
rack ever available.  Stay tuned...

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh."

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:46:30 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Welcome Home!!!

At  1:54 PM 10/30/97 -0700, debrown@srp.gov wrote:

>BTW, were you traveling South - entering Flagstaff on Saturday the 11th of
>October?? (That would have been from Page I think.) I passed by (going
>North) a 109, that returned a wave... was that you? I was driving my
>Limestone 5 door. It did snow and hail that day too!! Very interesting!

I was indeed in Flagstaff Oct 10 and 11. During the AM I was running back &
fourth on #66 picking up supplies & such before heading off North.  I was
Southbound on the road four or five times that day before heading out.

If you saw a British Racing Green 109 two door, with white top in a
standard LR two door two tone paint scheme, and the car had a Dormobile pop
up top, black Manatec snorkle, a loaded roof rack, a bonnet mounted spare,
a winch on the front with military overriders on each side of the winch, a
wing top mounted shovel on the left & a pick head from a removable handle
pick mounted on the bonnet to the right of the spare, headlights mounted on
the radiator bulkhead, diamond plate aluminum wingtop protectors and lower
side skirts. a big whip antenna  on one side of the rear and a vertically
mounted Hi Lift jack on the other side of the rear & a pair of military
rear bumperettes it was probably me.  I don't initate waves to Range Rovers
or Discoveries (Don't want to be sending wrong messages to strange man who
do not know or care that my car is a Land Rover), but I sure return the
waves whenever I see them.

Guess it is a small world.  I had given up on seeing anyone from the list
when I left Portland.

Take care!

TeriAnn Wakeman            For personal mail, please start subject line
Santa Cruz California      with TW.  I belong to 4 high volume mail lists
twakeman@scruznet.com      and do not read a lot of threads..Thanks

"The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh."

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:12:59 -0400
From: john cranfield <john.cranfield@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: 2.25 starter parts

Mike Johnson wrote:
> Does any one know where I can get the positive connection post that the hot
> wire bolts to?  Mine has rounded off inside and broke the wires that connect
> to the brushes.  I also need the little plastic insulator gadget too.  I
> hate to get a new starter ( $ 149 from AB ) for a buck worth of bolt and
> plastic...
> It was fine during the summer without a starter,  been out of order since

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> 74 SIII 88 (Chester)
> http://www.borg.com/~johnsonm
Most auto electrical rebuilders will have or can order almost any lucas
part so look in your yellow pages or you can call 902 765 3595 and speak
to Arthur.    John and Muddy

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:06:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re:  2.25 starter parts

Mike, cast about for an Auto electric shop that has some experience with
tractors. Massey Ferguson uses Lucas stuff, too. (Massey, BTW was a Canadian,
but I digress). I got Pansy's starter rebuilt for fifty bucks at such a
place, even though the main thing it needed was the same bolt and insulator
assembly. The fix you propose, is what I did, and that lasted three years. I
got some nylon bushings at a hardware store, and used a quarter inch bolt
which I had slotted the head.
73!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!!

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From: Solihull <Solihull@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:24:10 EST
Subject: Scotty's and a six needed in GA

I seem to recall someone told the list they were taking out a Chevy six and a
Scotty's adapter from a 109. I have a 109 in the shop with a terminal 2.6, and
seeing how it's going to Colorado, I figure the Chevy might suit the new owner
better. It's up to him, but I thought I should round up that source, if it's
available, in case that's the way he wants to go. 
  Anybody remember who had that engine?
TIA!!
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service, since 1994, where we say:
Land Rovers for Agriculture!
Land Rovers for Industry!
Land Rovers for Recreation!
Land Rovers forever!! D.V.

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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:58:01 -0800
From: Daniel Oppenheim <daniel5@best.com>
Subject: Subscribe

Please subscribe me to the list. Thank-you.

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From: "Richard Marsden"<rmarsden@digicon-egr.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:34:20 +0000
Subject: Re: SIII- Mounting a radio

Try a shelf fixed to the ceiling. I'm in the progress of doing this at the
moment.
The plan was to finish it this weekend - assuming the covering for the
shelf (its wood, with some "buffalo" hide :-) ) and the jigsaw (I did have
to order it mail order, didn't I?) turn up today.

There's actually quite a bit of space up there - my shelf sits on the
internal gutter, and is held in place by
bits of wood which "poke down" into it. The shelf then has a "front", which
the radio fits into. The speakers
are going to be in the base.

This solution would also have room for a CB...

Richard (ex-Gurkha SIII 109 FFR)

lt_j_jackson@unixlink.uscga.edu on 10/30/97 05:31:11 PM

Please respond to lro@playground.sun.com

cc:    (bcc: Richard Marsden/EAME/VDGC)

Subject:  SIII-  Mounting a radio

Does anyone have pointers for mounting a stereo in an SIII?  I'd rather
stay
away from the under-dash slide mount things.  Any better ideas out there?
Rgds,
Jeff Jackson
Waterford, CT
73 SIII 88 (Camilla)

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From: CIrvin1258@aol.com
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 05:37:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: TeriAnn's big adventure

<<BTW, Why do you California folk need windscreen wipers?>>

That's easy: To cut through the smog! (or, the coastal fog - if you live in
that area)

Charles Irvin
British Airways Cargo/LAX
1959 SII 88 petrol
1962 SIIA 109 diesel

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:40:56 -0500 (EST)

 for wiper motors. Spitfires and Midgets used the same
kind of setup, too.
English Car Spares, just north of metro Atlanta (770)475-2600. The have a
toll free, but I don't have it. Haven't needed to trade with them for years,
but they always treated me right. Way in back of the yard are some well and
truly picked over series trucks. Back near the Austin america with the tree
growing out of the left headlight hole. The usual caveats apply.
Cheers!! 
John Dillingham
near Canton, GA
KF4NAS     LROA #1095
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD "Pansy"
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project, well, OK, or a P6 or another SD1
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, just about a couple dozen satisfied
customers!!

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