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From: "Oldhaven" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 07:12:40 -0500
Subject: GM diesel conversion

Sorry for the double post.  I'll be brief.  Does anyone have any experience 
good or bad to share about the GM 6.5/6.2 diesel V-8 conversion advertised 
in LROI?

Ron Franklin

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: Advertising on the Digest
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:00:00 -0500

Just back from a weeks vacation and see Mike's toy Land Rover "ad" and
Kevin's response.
Whilst commercial advertising is a no-no (eg I have 50,000 Pairs of size
15 Camel Trophy Boots at $375 a pair) the offering of specials that may
be of interest to subscribers such as the toys or "discard" parts from
Mike is OK. I even like to see Kevin tell us of limited time offers from
LROI that we may miss if we wait for our magazine to arrive. So long as
it doesn't become a regular posting that consumes bandwidth and reading
time. So keep it up Mike, Kevin and all.
Thanks, Trevor
 OOMV.

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From: Easton Trevor <Trevor_Easton@dofasco.ca>
Subject: 3.8 Conversion
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:14:00 -0500

" I am considering a 3.8 conversion to a Early 2A.

Regards,
 Rob Davis_chicago"

Don't do it Rob, that  Jaguar egine can leak worse than any LR and it's
got no low end torque  :-)

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From: "Davies, Scott" <sdavies@monetpost.stdavids.ncr.com>
Subject: RE: GM diesel conversion
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 13:29:00 PST

Reports I've read suggest it goes like stink, gives good fuel economy (27- 
30 mpg UK gallons) but keeping it cool can be a problem.

Scott Davies '85 110 2.5D HT
 ----------

Sorry for the double post.  I'll be brief.  Does anyone have any experience
good or bad to share about the GM 6.5/6.2 diesel V-8 conversion advertised
in LROI?

Ron Franklin

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:50:56 +0000
From: murraycm@bc.edu
Subject: Re: Tires 4 Sale 

Brad,

I'm in the market for some new wheels.  Are these original LR wheels or 8 spoke
white ones.  what size tires are on these?  Have you riddenm your rover with
them?  do they rub wheelwells, springs?  do you have 88 or 109? 

My current wheels are mismatched in width, offset, color, and rustiness, so
thesese may be better candidates for my parents garage.

Please get back to me soon, as my email runs out on the 18th of dec.

thanks,
chris murray

>Hi there, I'm sorry if this is an inappropriate use of the list, but I'm home

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 25 lines)]
>(510) 254-3115
>(Rovingnut@aol.com)

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 8:58:37 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Making art!

As the saying goes.."how does one sculpt an elephant?: Cut away 
everything that doesn't look like an elephant"
Had a similar experience doing the front brakes, only I was carving away 
years of petrified road tar, mud, 90wt, and roadkill in order to get down 
to solid metal on the SPH. Took forever. Oh yes, the shoes were 
thoroughly and frighteningly soaked with gear oil.

Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 09:47:37 -0800
From: "John J. Tackley" <jtackley.dit@state.va.us>
Subject: FR Logs

Just a quick note on your frame replacement logs.
Excellent work and valuable information.  Ever think of submitting 
to LRW or LWOI for publication ?

Every time I crawl under my SIII to pump in some more 90wt, I glance 
(too look closely would probably prevent me from driving it) at the 
flaking frame and know a replacement is in my future.
Your diary will provide a plan of action and hopefully save me some time 
and effort when I tackle this project.  
Like your web page design, too.  Nice pics.

To the List:  check out Tim's w3site at

http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/g029/nelso276/umlrg/

You will be glad you did.

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Subject: Re: Working on a snow day
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:57:15 -0500
From: "Jeff Young" <young@marvinthemartian.Reston.mci.net>

Now that you've moved to New Hampshire I'm sure that you're
much more accustomed to the kind of snow that the DC area got
last winter.  I live near DC, in Dayton, MD. and work in Reston, 
VA.  Believe me, there is nothing i would have liked better than
to be out and about in the snow ('93 RR) but I was forced homebound 
by 44" of snow in just over three days.  I honestly spent four
days from morning to night on my tractor pushing snow around
for myself and my neighbors.  When I ran out of diesel, it took
the better part of four hours to make it two miles to a neighbor's
home (and back) for more.  

I will say that I enjoyed every minute of that week.  I only made
it into work once (Thursday).  Most of all I enjoyed the validation
I got for all of my "toys." 

Jeff Young
young@mci.net

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:07:08 -0800
From: Adrian Redmond <channel6@post2.tele.dk>
Subject: Wheels

I have a set of four wheels for a Range Rover, which a friend of mine
left in my stable 5 years ago, eventually telling me to keep them. They
are in need of a sandblast and repaint job, but are ok - they seem to be
for wider tires, which would suit me fine for my winter set - the
question is - can I use these on a series III, and with what tyre?

Instead of a large hole in the middle to accomodate the hub centre,
there is a bulge which looks as if it will cover the hub entirely.

anyone any comments on this one?
-- 
Adrian Redmond

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:02:42 GMT
From: David_R@mindspring.com (David Russell)
Subject: Re: Land Rover Magazines

I happen to like LROi very much and have been a subscriber for about a
year--I can't count on the local Borders Books to have it on a regular
basis. Perhaps I am blinded by my enthusiasm.

LROi isn't perfect but I was unimpressed with the one issue of LRW I have
seen. I actually find their layout worse than LROi's and in just one issue
saw all of the faults that have been previously mentioned.

For an owner with a non-running Rover, it's how I get my fix. ;-)

Cheers,

Happy Holidays!

David Russell
1969 Series IIA SWB faded Pastel Green last seen @
http://www.mindspring.com/~david_r
David_R@mindspring.com

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Subject: Re: Two Questions
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 16:10:48 -0000
From: Simon Ward-Hastelow <simon.110.v8@dial.pipex.com>

There is a UK company that supplies a very good waterproof sound 
deadening product. it is 9mm thick and when installed can just be hosed 
out with no ill effects. It also does wonders for sound proofing - they 
claim a 50 per cent reduction in cab noise. They do supply world wide.

The company is B.J. Acoustics, phone:  +44 161 627 0873, fax: +44 161 627 
0934

They can supply off-the-roll or a complete kit custom cut for your 
particular vehicle.
If you go for the complete kit (this does the whole car up to window 
height including a lead lined blanket for under the bonnet for 250 quid 
plus delivery.

__________________________________

Simon Ward-Hastelow, Orpington, Kent, UK

"DOROTHY"  -  1985, 110, V8, CSW (24mpg)
__________________________________

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:34:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Announcing Rhino Gear (commercial content)

At 07:36 AM 12/6/96 -0800, you wrote:
>comments. Our company is called Rhino Gear.
>We are a small upstart company located in Washington State that makes

Pulled up this page, and out of curiousity, looked at how they implemented
their counter.  As I suspected they used the Web Counter service that I
used.  (I could tell because it showed a broken link instead of a count.)
What caught my eye, though, was the name of the counter: "euro".  So I
pulled up the Euro Parts Ltd. page and sure enough, they used the exact same
counter.  So when you see 350+ hits to either page, that's the combined
total for both pages.  I dunno what the relationship between the two is, but
they use the same counter...

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:24:50 -0500
From: kelliott@intranet.ca (Keith Elliott)
Subject: Lost E-mail address

Sorry about the waste of Bandwith but...
Would the fellow LRO from Roswell NM please Email me
as I have lost your address.

Thanks
kelliott@intranet.ca

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:20:24 -0500
From: "Adams, Bill" <badams@usia.gov>
Subject: Re: GM diesel conversion

Don't try putting this monster in a series or Defender unless you do some 
heavy suspension mods. Even so, you'll still have a HUGE hunk of cast 
iron in front. The word "pitchpoling" comes vividly to mind. I won't even 
touch on issues of driveline stress. Might work in a RR or 
Bill Adams
3D Artist/Animator
'66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel:
"Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching"

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:29:42 -0500
Subject: Wobbly Wheel

Hi all,

Just like to publicly thank Chris Stevens for the help this weekend on the
rover.  He stopped by so we could put new shocks on his and ended up fixing
mine as well.

I have noticed some slight pulsations in the brake pedal for a couple of
weeks, but it was intermittent and didn't seem to affect braking.  I figured
I'd look into it when I did the swivel balls at Christmas.  However, on
Sunday, we planned on replacing the half shafts in the rear and jacked up one
side to avoid having to drain the diff.  

Needless to say, the wheel had significant wobble in it.  The lug nuts were
all tight, so we went about trouble shooting it.  Turns out the hub had
loosened up significantly.  After retightening the hub down (on both sides)
and replacing the half axles, it runs well again with no pulsations on
braking.   Best of all, the inside oil seal didn't get trashed (no oil on the
inside of the wheel)

Live and learn

Nate
NADdMD@aol.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:27:23 -0800
From: garnold@clvm.clarkson.edu (Guy Arnold)
Subject: D-90 in Potsdam

Last Friday night, 12-13-96, I stopped for gas on my way home from work and
noticed a dark green D-90 parked at the local Sugarcreek store. It had New
Jersey plates and alot Phish decals on the bumper. I think it is the first
D-90 I have seen in town. I didn't get a chance to talk to the driver but I
figured he was a Phish-head in the area for a concert at Lake Placid. If
you are on the  list I would like to say your D-90 was nice looking execpt
for the all decals on the bumper (non LR). I like the color, it is the same
as my 1973 Series III swb.

Did any one on the list recently sell a LR in Texas to an individual in
Massena,NY? My brother-in-law who lives in Houston told me about the sale
and he said it is being shipped to Richmond, Va where he was going to drive
it to Massena for the new owner who is a friend.

Guy Arnold
1973 Series III sw
1960 MGA 1600 roadster

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:17:21 -0500 (EST)
From: cmw@tiac.net (Christopher Weinbeck)
Subject: what a stud

Clayton Kirkwood asked 

"Q3: The stud under
the exhaust pipe nearest the passenger compartment (bulkhead??) is corroded
to the nut; the exhaust pipe curves out into the way of the nut/stud coming
off. How do I actually get this out? Air chisel, nut cracker?"

Well, if you're taking the manifold off take all the other fixings off and
you should be able to pull the manifold away from the head -giving you more
clearance to back out the stud some more, or even to rotate the manifold so
as to give you more space behind that stud.

And the following ended Friday December 13th -just called.

>The Houghton-Mifflin Publishing Co. is donating books to children's
>hospitals; how many books they give depends on how many emails they   
>receive from people around the world.  For every 25 emails they receive,
they  >give one book--it seems like a great and easy way to help a good cause.
>All you have to do is email:       share@hmco.com
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From: "Oldhaven" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:00:04 -0500
Subject: Re: GM diesel conversion

On 16 Dec 96 at 13:20, Adams, Bill wrote in response to my query about GM 
diesel conversion:

> Don't try putting this monster in a series or Defender unless you do some 
> heavy suspension mods. Even so, you'll still have a HUGE hunk of cast 
> iron in front. The word "pitchpoling" comes vividly to mind. I won't even 
> touch on issues of driveline stress. Might work in a RR or 
> Bill Adams
Bill,
You're probably right, but the weight isn't an insurmountable problem. 
Advertised weight of the GM v-8 is around 300 kg or 650 lbs, probably 150 
to 200 lbs more than the LR diesel.  ( and less than the Cummins 4 BT I am 
trying to get into my project).  Torque figure for the GM is 290 and hp is 160.  
obviously too much for standard series drivetrain, but within the range of 
the newer petrol Rover v-8's.  I think this conversion is intended for 
Defender/ Disco/ RR vehicles, though I would guess a Series coiler conversion with 
the later drivetrain would be a good candidate, especially since the engine 
would be 10 inches to the rear of the RR position over the axle.   I'm sure it would be a tricky 
proposition but mileage in the upper 20's with power figures like that 
sounds interesting, and it's one of the few advertised conversion possibilities 
that might be less expensive in the States than in England.  I have also 
heard that some of the reliabilty problems of the GM diesel have been 
solved in the 6.5L  version.
  I was hoping someone had done this and could say whether it was a great idea or a bad 
mistake.  Just curious and planning the next one.

Rgds
Ron Franklin

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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From: ben@bell-labs.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:24:20 -0500
Subject: anybody here from Costa Rica?  Maui?

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:38:58 -0800
From: "Paul Gussack" <pcg@tennis.org>
Subject: Disco in Movie

"And the good guys come in to save the day in six white Discoveries"

For all you Rover and Disney fans who have not seen 101 Dalmations (Damnnations
as they are fondly refered to in these parts).

The end features Great Britians finest in six Disco's.  
Best part of the movie I thought.

Good holidays to all LRO's

Paul G
'67 SIIa "Grendal"

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:16:26 +0100
From: Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

>Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:37:19 -0500 (EST)
>From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)]
>        <Confused looks>  Didn't it used to be a "he" writing that
>        newsletter? (Barker?)
Just to clear up any confusion... I can categorically state that I am the editor
of the Yorkshire Rover Owners Club and I am a "he" but not Dave Barker....

Dave Barker is the Secretary of the Yorkshire Rover Owners Club and has
never been the editor or my wife.

I, Dave White, am the editor of the Yorkshire Rover Owners Club and have
never been the secretary or my wife.

Pam White is the one who's picture appears at the top of the articles that
she wrote and has also never been the editor or the secretary but she is
my wife.

Ersatz Soubriquet is neither the editor, the secretary or my wife.

I think that about clears it up for the moment :-)

Oh and Land Rover content, lots of it on our web site. Which I, Dave White,
am the creator and editor of...

best regards

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dave White
'72 SIII  V8 auto, Range Rover Chassis
'89 Range Rover
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club
<http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:28:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Dave White wrote:

> of the Yorkshire Rover Owners Club and I am a "he" but not Dave Barker....

	Hmmm... David (Place, not Barker or White) is in trouble... :-)

> Dave Barker is the Secretary of the Yorkshire Rover Owners Club and has
> never been the editor or my wife.

	Dave Barker has never been you wife?  Hmmm...   :-)
	You have not been your wife...  Double Hmmmm....

> Ersatz Soubriquet is neither the editor, the secretary or my wife.
> I think that about clears it up for the moment :-)

	My head spins, but that is normal...  or will later being the 
	night of the monthly social gathering of the faithful.

	Should see if Zippy will tow someone up here for fun.  He even sent
	in an advert to the newsletter that I edit (let's not that that
	or I will really be confused) offering to tow people for fun and 
	pleasure all over the eastern seaboard.

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From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:12:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca> wrote:

>	Should see if Zippy will tow someone up here for fun.  He even sent
>	in an advert to the newsletter that I edit (let's not that that
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>	or I will really be confused) offering to tow people for fun and 
>	pleasure all over the eastern seaboard.

Huh? Did someone say something about towing....?
_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Zipkin  Bedford, NY  USA  *  ericz@cloud9.net  * www.cloud9.net/~ericz
SIII 109" V8 Hardtop * SII 109" SW (since new) * '63 Triumph Spitfire
SIIA 88" (project car)  *  '67 Mini-Moke * '94 Car Trailer: "NOT FOR HIRE"
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:58:00 +0000
From: Disclosed <PORSCHEGUY@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

remove <PORSCHEGUY@worldnet.att.net>

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:00:37 +0000
From: Disclosed <PORSCHEGUY@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Sorry,
	It looks like I sent that message to you guys on accident. P.S. I am 
dying to get my hands on a Series 2, petrol LWB SW. Any Ideas? Willing 
to import! Thanks in advance!

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From: AKBLACKLEY@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:09:59 -0500
Subject: Re: more.Projection responses..

Jan: I am using a rebuilt Delco 80 Amp. It is a little bigger than the 37 to
60 amp models)  I'll get back to you with the model number on the unit. 
I was getting 14 mpg or thereabouts with the CD-175s, but I know I was
running fairly rich (as proved by the E-check folks here. You need to get a
pass or a waiver here before you can either renew your plates or sell a
vehicle. :(  ). On the freeway it would approach 18 or so at sustained 65
mph. 
My early tuning on the Projection was very rich, I was only getting about 9
mpg at best, although I was also lead footin' too. I am now running closed
loop since Saturday so its too soon to tell, but I think it will be much
better.
The Isky cam appears to deliver power at a higher peak than the stock lazy
cam. I think the stock long duration cam peaked at about 2500 rpm, wereas now
it appears to peak at over 3000 rpm. The '81 to 83 RR LT-95 had a slight
overdrive ratio in 4th to match the stock cam and to stretch the mpg that the
factory could report, so now I need to stay in 3rd longer in some situations.
When I install a tach I'll be able to tell better.
The Isky cam is about as docile from idle as the stock was, which is good.
Once the revs get up it comes on much stronger.  
Other Projection tips: The fuel pressure is back to the 13 psi recommended by
Holley. I am going to leave a small fuel pressure gauge installed in the
supply line. When pressure drop off it will be a waring to check the filters.
 I thought idle was too rich intially so I lowered the pressure. This was not
necessary and it badly hurt part throttle running. With the 13 psi it runs
great. The LED on the O2 box tells you if you are near a 14:1 stoiciometric
(sp?) ideal ratio by flashing. It adjusts the voltage and current feedbacks
to the ECU to keep close to this ratio for all throttle openings below 2/3rd.
I also installed a heater hose adaptor plate on the back on the TBI body. I
had to order this direct from Holey. Cost $10. (I'll post that part #
too)This heats the throttle plate area to avoid icing. We've had some cold,
wet weather here of late and no problems with such. I am using a 14"
Edelbrock air cleaner, which has the greatest available drop below the flange
of the TBI and so gives max clearance. Even still the wing nut as made an
impression on the bonnet insulation (but not the bonnet) and clears the drip
channel on the bulkhead by 1/2 inch. The overall height from the top of the
intake manifold  to the top of the air cleaner is about the same a the
distance to the tippity top of the dashpots of the old setup. Cheers. Andy
Blackley.

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From: ELAGUE@umassd.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:12:42 -0500 (EST)

unsubscribe elague@umassd.edu

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:32:40 +0000
From: Kyle Potter <kpotter@cln.etc.bc.ca>
Subject: rollcage for 88 IIa

Hi, I'm thinking of making a roll cage for my 88, what I need to know is
if anybody has drawings or specs. on making it? 

Thanks.

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From: NADdMD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:30:08 -0500
Subject: Re: GM diesel conversion

In a message dated 96-12-16 13:35:32 EST, you write:

<< Don't try putting this monster in a series or Defender unless you do some 
 heavy suspension mods. Even so, you'll still have a HUGE hunk of cast 
 iron in front. The word "pitchpoling" comes vividly to mind. I won't even 
 touch on issues of driveline stress. Might work in a RR or 
 Bill Adams >>

Could someone post on a website the instructions for putting that engine in
Bill Adams? ; )

NADdMD@aol.com

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Subject: Magazine!
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 18:31:57 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>

Thanks for all your replies!  I've decided to go with LROI.  They offer 
16 issues in their one year subscription rate, if you subscribe over the 
net!  I look forward to the wealth of information that is yet to come ;)

Thanks again,

Keith W. Cooper
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Co-founder of the newly organizing "Arkansas Land Rover Association"
-'96 Disco SE
-in search of my future Series IIa or III (please write if you can help!
Visit my page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: ppinheiro@ip.pt
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:06:29 +0000
Subject: Breather "snorkels"

  Hi!

   Some weeks ago, when I changed the front diff pinion seal, I 
checked the breathers of the diffs, to find that they were both 
sealed (the little bb was corroded).  I took them out, dissambled 
the upper part of the breather, and left it out, so I don't have to 
replace the seal so soon again. :-)  I've heard that  it's a nice 
modification to connect the breather vent holes to tubes to act as a 
snorkels,  so it vents out above.  I  have some questions about how 
this could be done:
   1. What type of tubing should I use ?
   2. Can I run it joined (side by side, touching)  to the brake 
hydraulic piping  (as they also leave  the diffs to the frame) ?
   3. Where should they end ?
   4. What should be in the end ?  Just the pipe turned down, some 
kind of filter ?

    Thanks for the help!                        Pedro
'67 Land Rover "Oscar" SIIA Diesel
 AFS Exchange Student - Missouri, US, in 1993-94

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:46:09 -0600
From: car4doc <car4doc@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: 3.8 Conversion

Hi All,
 I would like to clearify that the 3.8 engine I am looking at
engineering into my early 2A is a GM engine out of a Bonniville.
So far it looks good & possible.  I am currently considering using an
automatic Trans to soften the impact on the drive train.  The 350 GM
trans can be mad to fit & would add alot of strength.  I know of Willy's
4X4 with a 350 engine & trans adapter to the transfer case.
 If anyone can give me input please do.  Presently the engine looks like
it's exhaust goes from the drivers side to the passanger side before
exiting down just behind the engine.  I hope this will aviod the
steering box enough to make this an easy conversion.

Regards,
 Rob Davis_Chicago

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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:12:25 -0800
From: Jeremy Bartlett <bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Breather "snorkels"

ppinheiro@ip.pt wrote:
snip
> I've heard that  it's a nice
> modification to connect the breather vent holes to tubes to act as a
> snorkels,  so it vents out above.  I  have some questions about how
> this could be done:

Rather than all the time fuss and expense in modifying the existing
check valve type breathers use the breathers currently fit to the
Defenders (presumably also the more recent RRs and Discos too).  These
are banjo type fittings with a hose preattached that will have (or
can easily be worked into) a U shape at the end to reduce the
risk of water enterying the tube.  The tube can be routed in a variety
of ways.

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:41:08 GMT
From: "William L. Leacock" <wleacock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Toy 110

Just visited our local Walmart store, they have a Lanard "Mean Machine" a
green 110 on monster truck tyres, it has awesome pulling power, power stick
shift, 4 wheel drive, battery operated, ,  the thing has a bull bar with
lights and a roll cage with lights and extra ground clearance.
 Price ten bucks

Regards  Bill Leacock  Limey in exile.

------------------------------

From: James Wolf <J.Wolf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Magazines
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:19:48 +0000

Teriann, When I get to a duty free in the U.K.I usually check out the malt
whiskey.I can get the reading material here but not some of the best malts.
As to which mag. to get overall I perfer LROI, but LRW has come a long way
and is getting much better. I solved the problem by getting a subscription
to LROI and checking and then purchasing LRW at the news stand.I have a
piece of trivia for the list. Anyone remember the first Land-Rover mag?
Answer OVERLANDER 4x4.
I still have a dozen or so issues from 1980-1982. I subscribed when I was
working out in Saudi Arabia,(Jeddah and Dhahran). That was long before it
became fashionable ie. pre Saddon Insane.

Keep On (Land-Rover) Truckin'
Jim Wolf sIIa 109 sw Vicky
Portsmouth, VA USA

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:23:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Suffering the Clutch Blues

At 03:47 PM 12/15/96 +0200, you wrote:
>I am no expert on the clutch hydraulics - except for the fact that I keep
>having to replace the rubbers. One small tip is to carefully check the
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I dunno about you, but when I was in school, they taught us to use a new one
each time -- They don't cost *that* much!

Oops, sorry.  I shoulda saved that for LRW...

--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-

Uncle Roger                       "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                             that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California                  http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:11:30 -0500
From: Jeffrey A Berg <jeff@purpleshark.com>
Subject: Surprise in the mail from the ROAV

I was doing fine until the phone rang.  It was a friend of mine--you all
know him so we'll just call him 'Towball'-- wanting to know if I'd seen the
ROAV's 'The Gearbox' yet.  "Nope, haven't checked the mail, not expecting
any checks until late this week" was my response.  "Well there's a cool
picture of your Rover in it!" replied 'Mr. You got it, I'll tow
it--anywhere on Earth'.  "Hang on, let me see if it's arrived."  Sure
enough, 'The Gearbox' was sitting in the pile of mail accumulated outside
my door, and on page six was a picture of my Rover.  Ordinarily, this would
be a cause for celebration, sort of a proud parent thing.

Not this time. This picture looks like something from the cover of
'Really-Big-and-Stupid Tires Monthly' -- front wheels flying off the ground
as the beast crests a hill at excessive, non-tread lightly,speeds.  You
know, kind of like the image that all of us who were at the Mid-Atlantic
have of boy racer 'Towball' and his sidekick 'Young, Single and
Conservative' sailing over the tank trap at light speed--having already
received a DQ for excessive speed, wheelspin and downright anti-social
driving.  Worse still for me is the caption--"How it's [underlined]not[/U]
done: the last obstacle on the trials course."  Captured for my viewing
pleasure by Jim Wolf.  A wonderful feeling for someone who prides himself
in driving sanely and smoothly offroad--and most of all for being
non-damaging to his Rover.

Well it's my Rover all right--the PIAA foglights and the roll cage are a
dead giveaway.  But to quote John Fogerty, "It ain't me" at the wheel.
Let's all give credit where credit is due though. The driver, following the
advice that I so often spew, that "the best race car in the World is
someone else's", is none other than our own list-meister, Bill Caloccia.

Bill had borrowed my pride and joy for a gentle little spin around the
track. (And somehow managed to mangle the gas cap in the process.)  At
least I now know why my bushings have suddenly given up the ghost, and
thanks to Jim Wolf, I know whom to, urr, *bill* for the damage.  ;-)

Seriously, another fine effort by Sandy Grice, Jim Wolf, and all of the
photographers who contributed to this issue of 'The Gearbox'.  And don't
worry for a moment about my Rover, Bill--if something breaks, I can just
call 'Towball'.

RoverOn!

JAB

==
 Jeffrey A. Berg     Purple Shark Media        Rowayton, CT
                    jeff@purpleshark.com
                     ==================
	My garden is full of papayas and mangos.
	My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos.
	Taste for the good life,
	I can see it no other way.
		--Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version)

------------------------------

From: Jim Pappas <roverhed@m3.pcix.com>
Subject: Thanks, Mike!
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:33:09 -0500

Thanks, Mike, for posting the ad for the toys the other day.

They arrived promptly and are proudly displayed in my model case! I =
actually had an old one of the civvy F/C sans top and w/scratched paint. =
Now I have a mint one with mint packaging to boot!

Thanks again, and as they say, ZEE CHECK EES EEN ZEE MAIL!

Any more toys to sell, don't hesitate to let us know!!

Cheers
Jim

------------------------------

From: ericz@cloud9.net
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:40:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Surprise in the mail from the ROAV

On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Jeffrey A Berg <jeff@purpleshark.com> wrote:

You
>know, kind of like the image that all of us who were at the Mid-Atlantic
>have of boy racer 'Towball' and his sidekick 'Young, Single and
>Conservative' sailing over the tank trap at light speed--having already
>received a DQ for excessive speed, wheelspin and downright anti-social
>driving.  

Ahem, I was disqualified because of an unannounced "shunt" ... OK, I reversed 
down about 150 feet of track because of a missed turn.  Ten (top?) possible 
explanations for the mistake:

1) Naviguesser had no clue where we were going.
2) Naviguesser had eyes closed.
3) Driver had eyes closed
4) Naviguesser was whimpering behind bulkhead with his dog.
5) Driver in same position.
6) Sonic boom.
7) Heated discussion about the airspeed of an unladen swallow.
8) Naviguesser's kilt blew up.
9) Spectator's skirt....
10) (Most likely) Naviguesser finds it physically impossible to say "left"

I could go on, but you get the point....
_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Zipkin  Bedford, NY  USA  *  ericz@cloud9.net  * www.cloud9.net/~ericz
SIII 109" V8 Hardtop * SII 109" SW (since new) * '63 Triumph Spitfire
SIIA 88" (project car)  *  '67 Mini-Moke * '94 Car Trailer: "NOT FOR HIRE"
-------------------------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^

------------------------------

From: "Beckett, Ron" <rbeckett@nibupad.telstra.com.au>
Subject: RE: GM diesel conversion
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 96 14:58:00 EST

Ron,

There was a favourable writeup of the conversion as done in Australia for 
Toyota LCs.  If you want. I can fax it to you.  Email your fax no.

Ron
'87 RR
'83 RR

 ----------
From: Oldhaven
Cc: rro@playground.sun.com
Subject: GM diesel conversion
Date: Monday, 16 December 1996 10:12PM

Sorry for the double post.  I'll be brief.  Does anyone have any experience

good or bad to share about the GM 6.5/6.2 diesel V-8 conversion advertised
in LROI?

Ron Franklin

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:13:51 -0800
From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Two Questions

At  4:10 PM 12/16/96 +0000, Simon Ward-Hastelow wrote:

>There is a UK company that supplies a very good waterproof sound
>deadening product. it is 9mm thick and when installed can just be hosed
;out with no ill effects. It also does wonders for sound proofing - they
>claim a 50 per cent reduction in cab noise. They do supply world wide.
;
>The company is B.J. Acoustics, phone:  +44 161 627 0873, fax: +44 161 627
>0934
;
I spent some time at their booth while at the Billing meet last July.
While there, I picked up a materials sample kit.  Most of their materials
are horsehair backed vynal or an indoor outdoor carpeting with maybe an
extra thick padding.

I asked them about materials for repeated dunking.  The one that they have
is their most expensive material.  It looks like 5/16 inch neopreme with
aluminum foil bonded to each side, shiny side out.

TeriAnn

twakeman@scruznet.com

------------------------------

Subject: Series Insurance
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 22:52:04 -0600
From: "Keith W. Cooper" <kwcooper@aristotle.net>

What kind of insurance premium can one look forward to owning an older 
model, say Series IIa, Land Rover,  if you want to be covered for driving 
it on the highway/ around town?

Are insurance companies even very knowledgeable about these older 
vehicles?

Thanks,

Keith W. Cooper
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Co-founder of the organizing "Arkansas Land Rover Association"
-'96 Disco SE
-in search of my future Series IIa or III -please write if you can help!
Visit my page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:15:47 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: foam insulation (was Two Questions)

TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:
> At  9:30 AM 12/14/96 -0800, David Place wrote:
> <big snip>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 31 lines)]
> TeriAnn
> twakeman@scruznet.com

I agree with you 100%.  I have had bad experiences with that spray in 
foam that comes in a tin, but around here there are companies that spray 
airframes etc.  It is a rubbery type of foam that isn't hydroscopic and 
it doesn't turn to dust when exposed to UV.  I think this stuff would 
really give me a nice quiet vehicle and more importantly it would keep 
the heat in in winter and out in summer.  Dave VE4PN

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:11:18 -0800
From: David Place <dplace@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Yorkshire Rover Club

Dave White wrote:
> >Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:37:19 -0500 (EST)
> >From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@NRCan.gc.ca>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 36 lines)]
> <http://www.landie.demon.co.uk/>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I must have been dazzled by that first lass leaning on the Land 
Rover.  Since her name appears at the top of a number of pages I assumed 
she had something to do with the editing.  Well despite the flame war I 
have started I still say it's a great newsletter and the pictures both 
mechanical and human are great :-)  Dave Ve4PN

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:32:18 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: GM diesel conversion

Ron Franklin,

        I was told once by a LR chassis engineer that the basic LR
drivetrain (RR, Disco, Defenders) was built for a 300lb-ft load. 290 is
right there but if you also went with an auto box, this would give you back
a nice cushion. As you know, manual trans are much harder on drivetrains.

Jim Allen

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:50:39 -0700
From: jimallen@onlinecol.com (Jim Allen)
Subject: Re: 3.8 Conversion- Some Input

> I would like to clearify that the 3.8 engine I am looking at
>engineering into my early 2A is a GM engine out of a Bonniville.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
>exiting down just behind the engine.  I hope this will aviod the
>steering box enough to make this an easy conversion.

Rob,

        There's a guy in New Jersey whose name escapes me that has done
exactly what you are planning. He also was known for putting 215 Buicks in.
I believe he was physically challenged in som way and need the autobox to
help him enjoy Roverdom more fully. Perhaps this is enough info that
someone will remember this fellow and you can get in touch for details. As
I recall, it was a good setup. Ian Ashcroft (See Adverts in LROI or LRW)
makes an adapter to bolt a GM Turbo 350 auto to the stock 2A transfer case
and the box is plenty strong for a V6.
Good Luck!

Jim Allen

------------------------------

From: "Huub Pennings" <pennings@kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:15:16 +0100
Subject:       importing SII

Hey, Porsche guy,

Who are you, where are you????????

Regards,

Huub

------------------------------

From: "Huub Pennings" <pennings@kfih.azr.nl>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:28:26 +0100
Subject:       Re: Series Insurance

Keith asked " What kind of insurance premium can one look forward to 
owning an older model, say Series IIa, Land Rover,  if you want to be 
covered for driving it on the highway/ around town?"

Well in Holland it would be something like 150 US$, thats 
what I am paying.

Regards,

Huub Pennings

Proud owner of an APK approved,insured,
smoking, SIII 88 diesel.

Are insurance companies even very knowledgeable about these older 
vehicles?

Thanks,

Keith W. Cooper
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Co-founder of the organizing "Arkansas Land Rover Association"
-'96 Disco SE
-in search of my future Series IIa or III -please write if you can help!
Visit my page at - http://www.aristotle.net/~kwcooper/LRV.html
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

From: marsden@digicon-egr.co.uk (Richard Marsden)
Subject: Re: Disco in Movie
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 96 8:53:22 GMT

> "And the good guys come in to save the day in six white Discoveries"
> For all you Rover and Disney fans who have not seen 101 Dalmations (Damnnations
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 7 lines)]
> The end features Great Britians finest in six Disco's.  
> Best part of the movie I thought.

Shurely they should be 101 FCs?  :-)

 
> Paul G
> '67 SIIa "Grendal"
> as they are fondly refered to in these parts).

Does this mean you're after a 107 to be called "Grendal's Mother"? 

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ulrik_L=F8vehjerte_=3Cloevehjerte=40eadata.dk=3E?=@eadata.dk
Subject: galvanian corrosion in "110
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:03:08 +0100

How do I treat Galvanian Corrosion ?
Not much yet.

Do I pain from outside, can I use af block of Magnesium or what?

Ulrik Loevehjerte, Denmark

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From: bb@olivetti.dk (Bent Bohlers)
Subject: RE: galvanian corrosion in "110
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:47:29 +-100

Ulrik Lovehjerte[SMTP:loevehjerte@eadata.dk] wrote:

How do I treat Galvanian Corrosion ?
Not much yet.

Try have a look at 

URL: http://www.xs4all.nl/~cdewaard/

It does realy explain about corrosion, but not so 
much about how to get it avay.

There is different solutions, Clean the frame, blast it with 
sand or metalic grain. Then give it somthing that can seal it.

E.g. 
Hot dip in zinc.
Get the paint known as "Light Primer", 2 compoment epoxy for 
   sailing boats keels.
Paint it with zincpaint.

All realy good solutions demands that the frame is easy 
accessible.

It is always an issue that gives a lot of advise and discusion 
in Your local Land Rover Club.

Because of Christmas and Newyear, next meeting is on february the 4.

If You are not a member, call me, on phone +45 43 46 65 96 or 
mail here.

Do I pain from outside, can I use af block of Magnesium or what?

No, works only when submitted in water.

Happy Rovering

Bent

_____________________________________

Bent Boehlers

Herlev, Denmark

e-mail: bb@olivetti.dk
URL: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/3542

110" STW 12 seats, V8, 1983
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