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From: Franz Parzefall <franz@max.physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: buy LR in Holland?
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:09:14 +0200 (MET DST)

| >trick with grease in the swivelballs?
| How do you mean The Trick?

ok! I should have said SPOT (Stupid Previous Owner Trick).
Grease will stay inside, when 90w will leak out.

| This is not the proper way to lubricate the swivels. The lubrication in 
| the swivels is done by splashing with oil. And grease isn't liquid 
| enough. 
That's exactly why it is a SPOT. 
You won't notice if you don't look inside the swivel balls when buying a LR.

Cheers,
Franz
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Franz Parzefall                franz@physiol.med.tu-muenchen.de
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From: "Alan Logue" <logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Subject: Re: 6 cylinder blues...
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:37:09 +0930

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> From: Alastair <alastair.lyon@jcu.edu.au>
> To: Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> Date: Tuesday, 22 October 1996 22:54
> Thought I'd take the oppertunity to quiz y'all about the infamous Rover
2.6
> 6 cylinder motor in my SIII...
> First, it has a really rattly tappet - the first mechanic I had told me
> Subject: 6 cylinder blues...
he
> used to work for the Army, and that it should be fixed quick smart;
before
> I burn those valves...now I've moved up Australia's coast, and my *new*
> mechanic rekons the Army set it up like that, to help it NOT burn those
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> trouble engine wise, so I'm figuring that I won't burn my valves with a
> rattly tappet. BTW, how do you burn the valves? Just really hard driving?
The Australian Army had a modification to ALL series III sixes which
involved either totally removing the tappet clearance plate on the rocker
cover, or scratching out the original Land rover figures and changing them
to Inlet .008 and Exhaust .014.

The Australian Army Service manuals for both the GS (General Service) and
FFR (Fitted For Radio) have also been changed from the original Land Rover
figures.

My enquiries have revealed that the incidence of burnt out valves dropped
markedly after this mod.

If you are lucky enough to have an FFR with winch, the only way to do the
exhaust valves is to remove the whole passenger side wing and exhaust
manifold/pipe assembly so that you can remove the exhaust tappet cover!!!!

Its good fun ( or something)

> Oh yeah, it's a pig on fuel too (what's new I hear you all asking), but
my
> standard 70L tank only gets me 300 kms if I'm lucky! I know it's a 4wd,
and
> it has the aerodynamics of a barn door, but it this acceptable?

Mine is the same, but I've found that there are only about 65 usable litres
of fuel in the tank

Its all part of owning a Land Rover!!!
> Look forward to you responses!
> 		-Alastair
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)]
> *2.6L Rover 6 cyl.                                        *
> *****************************************

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:34:22 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: Non Land Rover Matter

  I'm not Irish and  don't have a clue as to who
>Riveerdance is but I'd be willing to bet they would know, or be willing to
>steer you in the right direction....
If its the Riverdance I think it is,its a show.It was originally devised
as an intermission item in the Eurovision song contest in Dublin,with
Micheal Flatley and Jean Butler as leading dancers.It proved the most
popular item of the evening(if you've ever seen The E S C you'll know
why),and was lengthened into a full-size show,with the same leading dancers.
Its now on(at least I think it still is) in London,but without Michael Flatley,
who,due to some argument or other left,and put on his own show called
"Lord of the Dance".Riverdance is available here  as a video.
Basically,it's Irish dancing brought up to date.I've got the video,
and its brilliant IMO.Research into the video sales has shown that
most blokes buy it just to look at Jean Butler's legs.And yes,they're
brilliant,too.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:40:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Hi-Lift

Hey John,

How are things going?  Well, we entered the life of plushmobilers.  We took
the wife's car to Alabama for a business trip (old posting and we wanted to
visit friends).  Noticed the water pump starting to leak (along with
previously noted problems).  When we got back, there was a message on the
machine from Land Rover Richmond that they had some used Discos on the lot
and to come on up, and oh by the way, LRNA has a offer for full maintenance
for the first 45.000 miles.  Went up to look at the used ones.  By the time
we would have bought one, it was cheaper to by a new '96 SD with the
maintenance plan.  So we traded the VW and are now a two Rover family.  Only
one small problem (actually quite large), I can't get the damn thing away
from my wife to drive it  8^) !!!

That's about it from here.

Larry

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:43:46 -0500
From: eheite@dmv.com (Ned Heite)
Subject: Duct Tape

Duct tape and gaffer's tape are different beasts. Use duct tape.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:16:58 +0200
From: pwakefie@esis.esrin.esa.it (Paul Wakefield - System Manager (SERCO) X492)
Subject: Chains, Bondage and other perversions ...

Hi All

echo@pacific.net.sg says:

> I am currently trying out unleaded fuel on my 2.6l (the cheaper price of
> unleaded was a great motivator in making the switch, especially for the 2.6l)
> I find that I get more power from this fuel as compared to my regular 98
> octane leaded petrol.

Another thing I didn't mention was to run a tankful of leaded through 
periodically. eg every 5/10 fills or whatever. This will ensure the lead coats 
the valve mating surfaces at least temporarily.

Having said this I didn't on mine :-) 

Paul Daintree <paul@wda.u-net.com> says:

> I have a 5foot Jackall 8000, when I bought it I also bought the mounting kit.
> I made up a couple of box sections out of a steel shelf to take the mounting
> kit, this was the pop riveted to the bulkhead behind the drivers seat.

Pop riveted to support nearly 12 kilos of deadly weapon ? 
IMHO I'll stick with bolts......

Re: (whips and) Chains

I'll be using my recovery chain primarily for self recovery with the Hi-Lift as 
I don't want the strrreettccchh involved with rope (it's only 5 feet as it is !)

Regards, Paul.

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From: "jean gruneberg" <grunberg@iafrica.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:28:13 +0200
Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Richard wrote

>Presumably the 3.9D means deisel, and is therefore a conversion, as 
>Stage 1's only every came in 3.5 petrol.

Actually only in the UK stage1's were available only in 3.5 V8. 
Several other markets had stage 1's with 3.9D and 2.6 sixes (SA as eg.) 

Regards 
Jean
_______________________________________________________
Jean Andre Gruneberg

ph +27 (0)31 295 252
c-ph +27 (0)82 551 8433
fax +27 (0)31 3003030
e-mail grunberg@iafrica.com    

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From: Lodelane@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:34:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Duct tape

Talk about timing -

Got the latest "Wireless" catalog last night (1-800-669-9999).  They list a
"Duct Tape Kit" (44161) for $29.95.  Contains a red plastic tool box, "Duct
Tape Pro" baseball cap, "The Duct Tape Book", and "Real Life Duct Tape
Stories".  Be the first on your block.

As usual, I have no connections, ad naseum...

Larry Smith
Chester, VA 

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:02:03 -0400
From: ecrover@midcoast.com (East Coast Rover Co.)
Subject: Re: Maine Rover Club(?)

>a Maine Rover club!?  There are definitely plenty of us here, and I know
>that there are some winter outings that occur.  If anyone on the list has
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
>interest in joining/organizing such an entity, let me know!
>Cheers!  John
        John,
        I have talked about this before. Maine has no club, but what about
NH and such... other than the Bay State Club in Mass, nothing seems to
exist in Northern New England, and as you say, look at how many Rovers
there are around here. I'm in to help get it going and as a member. Keep me
informed.

        See ya!

From: Mike Smith
East Coast Rover Co.                    207.594.8086
21 Tolman Road  *Rt. 90*                207.594.8120 fax
Warren, Maine 04864                     ecrover@midcoast.com
    Land Rover Service, Sales, Restoration, and More
        Series Coil Chassis Specialists

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From: "Ron Franklin" <oldhaven@mail.biddeford.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:57:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Duct tape

On 23 Oct 96 at 8:34, Lodelane@aol.com wrote:

> Talk about timing -

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 9 lines)]
> Tape Pro" baseball cap, "The Duct Tape Book", and "Real Life Duct Tape
> Stories".  Be the first on your block.

And to return to a previous thread, lot's of great uses for duct tape can 
be found on the Handyman's Corner segment of the Red Green Show. Check out 
http://www.redgreen.com  .   And of course the Prairie Home Companion show 
on Public Broadcasting is sponsored by the North American Duck Tape Council 
(quack)

Rgds
Ron Franklin

Bowdoin, Maine, USA

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:48:43 -0400
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: Models

I am completely ignorant of Land Rover toys, so I was wondering if any of
the avid collecters out there could point me in the direction of a
small(matchbox-sized), relatively cheap model of a IIA 88" Station Wagon.
Are there any dealers in the US? Thanks!

Check out the model shop at

http://web.idirect.com/~lroshop/

Almost every LR model including matchbox size is available.

Regards

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:57:17 -0400
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>

Can someone in the Boston area please help me.  I am trying to find out
where the Irish dance show "Riverdance" will be playing in Boston after
Christmas sometime. 

Thanks for the rapid response.  A dead heat between Heather Dixon and Gerald
? (g@ix.netcom.com).  If you both email your name and address to me at
lroshop@idirect.com vouchers and calendars will be mailed to you both.

Many thanks for the help.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:58:53 -0400
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: Maine Rover Club?

 Maine Rover club!?  There are definitely plenty of us here, and I know
>that there are some winter outings that occur.  If anyone on the list has

Keep us advised and we will be sure to add you to the club listing on the
LRO SHOP site.

Good luck.

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From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com>
Date: 23 Oct 96 10:19:41 EDT
Subject: Re: -No Subject-

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From: RALPH@SMUGGITS.MHS.CompuServe.COM
Date: 23 Oct 96 09:38:44 EDT
Subject: Parabolic Springs.

As many other leaf sprung land rover owners may have, I am considering 
putting air springs under my 101. The process, although a major project 
does not seem too traumatic. I have done some research and am now at the 
point that I am considering contracting the work, however I have run into 
one problem. Air spring conversions for trucks use Parabolic springs, 
which apparently are a different steel that the multi leaf springs we 
have on our landies. I have been informed that there are only two 
companies in the UK that produce these and there is virtually no chance 
that I will be able to find the right size off the shelf. 

Does anyone know what the properties if these parabolic springs are? What 
is it about them that is parabolic? If I cant use them, does anyone have 
any ideas on how to produce a replacement half spring to use as the 
trailing arm in the suspension.

I believe that the minimum order would be 500 springs! Does anyone know 
where I would be able to get them in smaller quantities (I am doing this 
project in conjunction with a company that specialises in air spring 
conversions so there may be the possibility of a small batch order.)

Thanks in advance,

Ralph.

101 FC.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:07:47 -0500
From: Kurt D Musselman <Brewmaster@ids.net>
Subject: DEF90/110 Manuals

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From: lucasrwsaed@argonet.co.uk (Lucas Rists)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 11:49:28
Subject: Re: quiet stage 1??

On Wed 23 Oct 96 (19:29:40 +0930), dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au wrote:
>Richard replies: 
>> Actually, I'm serious. After my 2.25 petrol and 2.6 the car is bliss.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 30 lines)]
>equivalent ????
>cheers
>e.

Yes, but then its not a Stage 1 V8 any more, its a Stage 1 and bit or
something! There are other differences which lead LRO International a few
months ago to refer to the SA version as a "Stage 1 look alike", i.e. its got
the same grill. Anyway, regarding the Isuzu, see the postings headed "heresy"
:-)

Richard
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:49:56 +0000
From: M.J.Rooth@lboro.ac.uk (Mike Rooth)
Subject: Re: quiet stage 1??

Yes, but then its not a Stage 1 V8 any more, its a Stage 1 and bit or
something! There are other differences which lead LRO International a few
months ago to refer to the SA version as a "Stage 1 look alike", i.e. its got
the same grill.

-------------------------
--------------------------
Surely this depends on whether or not not the parent company approved
the installation? Granted its not a Stage 1 V8,but there are other
differences,so its still a Stage 1.

Mike Rooth

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From: DONOHUEPE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:21:34 -0400
Subject: Half Shafts

The question was recently posed: WHEN will a half shaft break?

The timing of half shaft breakage is strictly controlled by Murphy's Law.
Shafts will break when it is the most inconvenient and when you are the
least well prepared.

Assuming your Land Rover has the original lucas half shafts, your best
insurance against their breaking is to have spares (and all the usual
gaskets and tools) in the car at all times.  The gods of darkness are ever
vigilant and they will know when you leave home without spares and tools.

I take these matters as an article of faith.  Be prepared.  In the 20 years
of owning my 109, no half shafts have broken.  I have replaced twisted half
shafts before they broke.  Spares and tools are always in the car.

It is not just Land Rovers that have suffered from this metallurgical
malady.  Back in the mid 60's, I replaced 4 or 5 good english steel half
shafts in a 948cc Austin Healey Sprite.  Must have been the tremendous
torque.  All broke in the same place; at the point where the splines fit
into the differential.  This was not uncommon with english cars.

A good procedure with a newly acquired Land Rover is to pull and inspect the
half shafts.  This also provides an excuse to replace gaskets and a few
potential oil leaks.  Be sure to fill with oil the small reservoir in the
hub at the outer end of the shaft.  The allen nut in the filler hole is
often a chore to move.  Oil is cheap.

Recuerdos,

Paul Donohue
Denver
1965 Dormobile

            An Englishman is a person who does things
            because they have been done before.
            An American is a person who does things
            because they haven't been done before.
                                            Mark Twain
bt

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:38:25 +0200
From: pwakefie@esis.esrin.esa.it (Paul Wakefield - System Manager (SERCO) X492)
Subject: Re: Dielectric Corrosion (Birmadull ?)

Subject: Re: help

Mark Hardig asks:
> I'm sure this has been covered on the list before, but I'm trying to learn all
> I can about  the effects of dielectric corrosion and how they can be
> countered.

Check the following areas:
(I checked these before my diatribe on the effects of temperature on corrosion)

http://www.clihouston.com/
http://www.clihouston.com/corrsrc.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~cdewaard/
http://iti.acns.nwu.edu/pubs/fhfr/fhfr_ch5.html

Regards, Paul.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 12:53:52 EST
From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@inetgate.ushmm.org>
Subject: 'ello out there...

hey what's going on? 
Is everybody worknig or something? 
Awful quiet today...
oh maybe that's because Bill Adams is on vacation...
Im getting an Overdrive this week for the Green Car...anything to look out for 
on installation? I'm supposed to be getting the tool for the mainshaft nut from 
one of our esteemed US suppliers...on a loaner basis...Trak-auto didn't have 
that one!
Cheers
Dave B.

Also getting a SIII hand-throttle...where's it go? Also were diesel SIII's 
available in the US, or just petrol?

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:40:39 -0700
From: Heather Dixon <hldixon@top.monad.net>
Subject: Re: non Land Rover matter

Kevin Girling wrote:
> Thanks for the rapid response.  A dead heat between Heather Dixon and Gerald
> ? (g@ix.netcom.com).  If you both email your name and address to me at
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> ? (g@ix.netcom.com).  If you both email your name and address to me at
> lroshop@idirect.com vouchers and calendars will be mailed to you both.

	Gerry's a cool dude, glad I was tied with him

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:46:53 -0700
From: Heather Dixon <hldixon@top.monad.net>
Subject: Re: Maine Rover Club(?)

John Cassidy wrote:

> This is a message primarily for all my fellow Rover owners living in
> Maine(be they native or not! ;-)).  I am wondering why we have yet to form
> a Maine Rover club!?  There are definitely plenty of us here, and I know
> that there are some winter outings that occur.  

Mike Smith wrote:

> I have talked about this before. Maine has no club, but what about
>NH and such.

	NH does not have one either. Ray and I had talked about starting 
one
but I felt that I could not give the time that was needed to get one 
going
and keep it going. 

	What about a twin state club? We are willing to help out but do 
not 
want to be an officer. Would rather be behind the scenes if you know what 
I mean.

	Keep us informed too.

Heather

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From: GElam30092@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:16:59 -0400
Subject: Hi-jacked LR's

<<Please, send me your tips.  I've just purchased a couple of Series that may
need painting and I've not undertaken that particular bit of fun.>>

So... these are the hi-jacked Land Rovers from AZ?  When are you having them
picked up?  If you bought the one from Greg, we've seen that one.  The other
one was from Flagstaff?  Details!?

Good Luck...
Gerry

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:32:20 -0700 (MST)
From: Dirk Tischer <dtischer@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Synthetic oil blends

I asked the Autozone guy the same question and he said that valvo-blend
was 50 50 but that's no where on the fine print.  I think that the
economical way is just buy a couple bottles of mobil one when you change
your oil and mix it in.

Dirk Tischer
94 D90

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:14:23 -0400
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: Magazine Subscription Increases

LROI US subscriptions have increased this month and are now as follows:
13 issues GBP59 - renewal GBP54

This still is a long way from the price of GBP77 which existed when we
started operations here in North America.

These increases will become effective November 1 for all North American
customers using our 888 service and WWW customers using the site. 

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:39:39 -0700
From: jouster@rocket.com (John Ousterhout)
Subject: more half-shafts

>Also, any clues as to when they might go?

My .02c, in partial answer:
I had our company metals specialist examine my broken axle parts. He 
concluded in about 2 seconds that it had experienced an initial excessively 
high torque, causing a circumferential crack, followed by repeated cycling 
which propagated the crack the rest of the way through the axle. It broke 
pulling away from a stop sign. About 3 weeks before, I'd been pulling small 
but tough tree stumps in low range with the front hubs unlocked, downhill on 
dry pavement. This meant all the available torque was being routed through 
the rear axles, rather than (at least having a chance of) being divided 
between the front and rear. I believe this was when the initial crack 
started. I replaced both rear axles.  A few years later, the next axle broke 
a few weeks after some serious 4-wheeling in rocky terrain, again pulling 
away from a stop sign.

My conclusions, and advice, would be to check the axles for incipient 
cracking when you get home after any severe use. A magnetic drain plug would 
also be a good idea (it keeps the broken chips out of the gears and 
bearings), as well as carrying spare axles at all times.

'64 109 diesel 5-door (Safari-SoGoodi) 465,000 miles on the few remaining 
original parts.
jouster@earth.rocket.com (John Ousterhout)

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:38:56 -0500
From: "Herman L. Stude" <hermans@krts.com>
Subject: reverse lights

New to Rover maintenance need input.

Reverse lights appear to be in working order (bulbs work anyway), but do 
not get power when tranny is put in reverse.  Found an unconnected (PO I 
guess) wire that originates in rear green w/ black stripe while doing 
regular fluid level checks.  I've been told to pull out floor  panels (a 
first for me) and check operation of switch on tranny and/or reconnect 
wire.  I also want to add a switch on center switch plate to be able to 
use reverse lights as work lights.

Questions:
Any caveats for removing floor?
Checking switch operation?
Adding the other switch good/bad idea?
Is green w/black wire the right one?
Any misc. comments welcomed and encouraged.

Thanks in advance.
-- 

Herman L. Stude
88 SIII

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From: "Tom Rowe" <trowe@aae.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:48:49 -6
Subject: ESPN broadcasts

I read recently about some sort of LR related broadcast, but deleted 
it since I don't have cable TV. A friend has now offered to tape them 
for me, but I don't know when they are. Anybody know?

Tom Rowe
UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research    
Madison,WI, USA
608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578        
trowe@aae.wisc.edu                

 Four wheel drive allows you to get
 stuck in places even more inaccessible.

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:49:11 -0700
From: paarch@ix.netcom.com (Paul Archibald)
Subject: frame-replacement/steering Relay

As I hinted last week, I just picked up my Rear Koenig PTO winch from the
shipper last night. This looks like a real beafy winch.
 Does anyone have the specs on Koenigs? How powerfull?( I thought someone
told me once tht it was 10,000 lbs??)
 What size cable do you use and how long a cable? the cable on it is
ratty(it looked like 5/8", but I  didn't have calipers or a ruler with me)
I am planning on stripping it down completely and making it as near to new
as possible. are any parts available anywhere? or do I have to fabricate?
Does anyone have a Koenig operating manual? Can I get a copy of it?
Thanks for any info, helpfull or not (PTO winching stories?)
Paul

>....as well, and if need be for the "new" Koenig rear-mount PTO winch
>(thanks Peter O.)...

Paul Archibald
paarch@ix.netcom.com
(parch@smmff.com during the week at work)
(510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336
'58 88" RHD 2-litre, rear Koenig
'87 Range-Rover-over 160,000 miles-back from the dead "going strong" (Squeak)

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:50:11 -0700
From: paarch@ix.netcom.com (Paul Archibald)
Subject: Koenig winch

As I hinted last week, I just picked up my Rear Koenig PTO winch from the
shipper last night. This looks like a real beafy winch.
 Does anyone have the specs on Koenigs? How powerfull?( I thought someone
told me once tht it was 10,000 lbs??)
 What size cable do you use and how long a cable? the cable on it is
ratty(it looked like 5/8", but I  didn't have calipers or a ruler with me)
I am planning on stripping it down completely and making it as near to new
as possible. are any parts available anywhere? or do I have to fabricate?
Does anyone have a Koenig operating manual? Can I get a copy of it?
Thanks for any info, helpfull or not (PTO winching stories?)
Paul

>....as well, and if need be for the "new" Koenig rear-mount PTO winch
>(thanks Peter O.)...

Paul Archibald
paarch@ix.netcom.com
(parch@smmff.com during the week at work)
(510)353-1320 or wk. (408)487-1336
'58 88" RHD 2-litre, rear Koenig
'87 Range-Rover-over 160,000 miles-back from the dead "going strong" (Squeak)

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:23:04 +0100
From: lopezba@atnet.at
Subject: Re: Duty/Tax

Jeff inquires:
>Does anybody know if there is a duty or tax associated with buying parts
>from the UK via post? Approx. $300 US dollars..

Can't say about duties in the USA, of course. However, the nice thing is 
that you don't have to pay the 17.5 % value added tax in the UK, if you have 
your supplier export it. If you take things in your luggage, you have to 
reclaim vat at the airport, which may be timeconsuming and a hassle, since 
you have to mail a form back to your supplier and then they send you a cheque.
Good luck
Peter Hirsch
SI 107in S/W
Vienna, Austria (officially 1,000 years old this November 1)

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:34 -0400
From: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>
Subject: Re: Non Land Rover Matter

>So what's the bloody answer?!?!?!?

From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)
>To: Kevin Girling <lroshop@idirect.com>
>Subject: Re: Non Land Rover Matter
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>Gerald
>g@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:53:39 -0400
From: Nathan Dunsmore <dunsmo19@us.net>
Subject: Re: Non Land Rover Matter

Kevin Girling wrote:
> >So what's the bloody answer?!?!?!?
> From: g@ix.netcom.com (Gerald)
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> >Gerald
> >g@ix.netcom.com

Funny.  Very Funny :P
-- 
Nate

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:25:08 -0700
From: Greg Spitz <Gspitz@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: ESPN broadcasts

Tom Rowe wrote:
> I read recently about some sort of LR related broadcast, but deleted
> it since I don't have cable TV. A friend has now offered to tape them
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>  Four wheel drive allows you to get
>  stuck in places even more inaccessible.One broadcast is on Nov 3rd on ESPN2...and there is one earlier this is 
discussed.....here----http://www.LandRover.com/

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From: "Floris Houniet" <houniet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Fwd: half-shafts
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:26:11 +0100

I BOUGHT A 109 LWB '69 !!!! BUT:
it's got a busted halfshaft (or diff..). Luckly the chap I bought it from
had a sailsbury he gave me to fix it. 
Could you post the tips for swapping out the LR diff for the Sailsbury. The
chap told me I could shorten the prop by sawing a piece off and welding it
together again.. Is this a good idea? 
Anyway beer 's on me tonight, I'm a completely happy and broke guy!!
happy rovering,
Floris Houniet

----------
> tom wrote:
> I got fed up of breaking shafts & fitted a Salisbury. On reflection I
> had developed a very bad driving habit - changing to first from reverse
> without stopping completely and using the transmission to change
> direction. Hardly suprising that I was breaking the shafts!

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From: debrown@srp.gov
Date: 23 Oct 96 15:39:07 MST
Subject: Half shafts...

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
Alex asks about half shafts...

I broke the right (short) side about a month ago, no warning, just let
out the clutch at a light and BANG! Afterwords, I heard a slight
grinding noise so as soon as possible I removed the broken piece, other
axle, and disconnected the drive shaft. This was a NASTY break, bent,
twisted, and a HUGE break. Drove in front wheel drive for next 2 weeks
until I finally replace it.

Only about 2 or 3 weeks later, the other side broke. Exact same (stop
light) scenario, this time no noises afterwords so I left everything as
it was, locked the front and drove that way for about 2 weeks.

With the possibility of going hunting (deer) this weekend, and taking
the LR on a 500 or so mile trip, I thought it wise to change the broken
half shaft. So I pulled it next to the IIa 88, (temporary parts donor)
Jacked up the side to be removed on both LR's (didn't have to drain oil
that way... Lazy Bugger move, eh?) and with an air impact, (true Lazy
Bugger tool!) managed to yank both out, half shafts out, and slap it all
back together in about 15 minutes! (That "blue goo" stuff makes great
gaskets!) The break was a nice and clean one, about 1" from the outside
end, on the splines, just before the large splined "lip", and I was able
to remove the long piece with no problem!

In summary... I carefully examined the broken half shaft only weeks
before and could see nothing wrong with it. I don't think preventative
maint. is appropriate here, other than checking for obvious problems
(twisting, etc...). And secondly, if one goes, replace the other at the
same time!!!

Dave, (becoming a true Lazy Bugger) Brown

What lies behind us and what lies    #=======#         _____l___
before us are tiny matters compared  |__|__|__\___    //__/__|__\___
to what lies within us.              | _|  |   |_ |}  \__ - ____ _ _|}
Ralph Waldo Emerson                  "(_)""""""(_)"      (_)    (_)

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From: "Peter & Julie Rosvall" <rosvall@mi.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:13:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Maine Rover Club(?)

Date:          Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:09:39 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-to:      Land-Rover-Owner@playground.sun.com
X-To:          lro@playground.sun.com
From:          rovah@agate.net (John Cassidy)
Subject:       Maine Rover Club(?)

This is a message primarily for all my fellow Rover owners living in
Maine(be they native or not! ;-)).  I am wondering why we have yet to form
a Maine Rover club!?  There are definitely plenty of us here, and I know
that there are some winter outings that occur.  If anyone on the list has
interest in joining/organizing such an entity, let me know!

Cheers!  John

John Cassidy
Bangor, Maine USA

John, 

I would be very interested if there was a club in Maine; I live in Maces 
Bay, N.B. just a few hours from Bangor, and it would would be 
relatively easy for my wife and I to take part....

BTW, Do you know of any local sources of used LR late IIa 109 parts?

Thanks,

Peter Rosval
rosvall@mi.net

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:48:29 -0700
From: Jeremy J Bartlett <Bartlett@slip.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: half-shafts

Floris Houniet wrote:
> I BOUGHT A 109 LWB '69 !!!! BUT:
> it's got a busted halfshaft (or diff..). Luckly the chap I bought it from
> had a sailsbury he gave me to fix it.
> Could you post the tips for swapping out the LR diff for the Sailsbury. 

Ummm. I believe the swap involves the axle casing as well as the diff unit 
and you'll need a new prop shaft.  

Caveat:  I've never done this.

cheers,

Jeremy

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:04:37 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: ESPN broadcasts

The message originally e-mailed from Bob Watson said that the upcoming
rover shows were:

Trek '96 on ESPN2 Sunday, November 3 from 7:00 - 8:00 p.m. EST, where
associates from Land Rover Centres compete in a product knowledge, physical
endurance, problem-solving and driving skills competition.

The Kalimantan Camel Trophy '96 will be aired on Sunday, December 8 from
7:00 - 8:00 EST on ESPN2.  This will be a one hour program based on the
exploits of Fred Hoess and Ken Cameron, who representing the United States,
went from eighteenth to second place.

The e-mail also stated there was an Eco-Challenge coverage due to be on
Discovery channel soon but that the exact time wasn't certain.

>I read recently about some sort of LR related broadcast, but deleted
>it since I don't have cable TV. A friend has now offered to tape them
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> Four wheel drive allows you to get
> stuck in places even more inaccessible.

Steven Paustian
AKA Generalissimo Chaos  (Al U. Minium)
President, Flatland Rover Society
04/500 D90SW

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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:18:27 -0300
From: rover1@sky.net (Steve Paustian)
Subject: Re: Hi-jacked LR's

>So... these are the hi-jacked Land Rovers from AZ?
Yup
 When are you having them
>picked up?
Both should be here Mon. if all goes as planned. (When was the last time
that happened???)
If you bought the one from Greg, we've seen that one.
Same Same
 The other one was from Flagstaff?  Details!?
Series III 88 with bad rear end.  PO says ring and pinion, but I'm
wondering if maybe it's just a (gasp) halfshaft thing.
>Good Luck...
Thanks,  I hope I won't need it but when was the last time THAT happened???
>Gerry
Steve

Steven Paustian
AKA Generalissimo Chaos  (Al U. Minium)
President, Flatland Rover Society
04/500 D90SW

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From: Solihull@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:49:13 -0400
Subject: Re: more half-shafts

>>A magnetic drain plug would 
>>also be a good idea (it keeps the broken chips out of the gears and 
>>bearings), as well as carrying spare axles at all times.

I got some little magnets from Radio Shack and usually put one somewhere in
any of the rover's cavities. Oil Pan ; justanywhere under the baffle. Trans
or Xfer case or diff housing, make sure it's out of the way.  If you do have
to pop the yellow knob down to get home, you can at least take comfort in the
fact that some of the chips are being arrested by the magnet as you drive.
Can't hurt!! Might help!!
Cheers!!
John Dillingham in Woodstock, GA
73 s3 swb 25902676b DD engine rebuild under way!
72 s3 swb 25900502a rusted, in suspended animation
Looking for a P5 project
Vintage Rover Service--Since 1994, over half a dozen satisfied customers!!

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From: graf_greg/furman@furman.edu
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 20:09:48 -0400
Subject: IMPORTANT LR INFO!!!

please unsubscibe me

greg_graf@furman.edu

SATURN RULES!

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From: Daryl Webb <dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re:Stage 1 heresy.
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:18:19 +0930 (CST)

Lucas Rists responds:
> Yes, but then its not a Stage 1 V8 any more, its a Stage 1 and bit or
> something!

Ok if you wish to split hairs, how and where does Landrover define "stage 
1".  I've always believed that this is a term we LRO's use to describe 
the full-time 4x4 equiped leaf-sprung vehicles.
  My vehicle is officially described as a "series III V8"

> Anyway, regarding the Isuzu, see the postings headed "heresy"  :-)

Hmm perhaps you had better inform Land-rover of you feelings.  This was a 
standard factory fitment, with full backing and parts support.  The 
workshop supplement was titled something like:

"Series III V8 3.9D supplement"   go figure.

Just because it wasnt available in the UK doesnt mean its not a genuine 
Landrover product.....

oh well I feel better now
-- 

  Daryl Webb   (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au)

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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:20:15 +0200
From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditf2.arcs.ac.at>
Subject: Re: reverse lights

Hello Herman!

:) Questions:
:) Any caveats for removing floor?
You know the car of Fred Flintstone?

BTW one of my friends drove without floor and door about 30 km.

:) Checking switch operation?
Maybe the switch is only disadjusted. If you remove the plate holding the 
yellow lever (remove yellow knob, spring, 2 bolts holding the 1 by 2 inch 
plate) you will see the switch. 
Now you can move the switch a little ore take a test-bulb to check operation.
To remove the switch you will have to remove the tunnel above the gearbox.

:) Adding the other switch good/bad idea?
In this case you should add a controll-light too (switch with light).

:) Is green w/black wire the right one?
:) Any misc. comments welcomed and encouraged.

 Peter

-- 
Signature: Cogito ergo sum....I think....
Homepage:  http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter
Landrover: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter/LR

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Subject: Re: Help gearbox went BANG....
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 96 09:31:38 +0100
From: Marc Rengers <mr@grant.media-gn.nl>

>I would like any tips on rebuilding, what all this is going to cost me, 
>and whether it might just be beter (and cheaper) to buy a rebuilt box..?

Hello Floris,

I've got a SIII gearbox and transferbox. I pulled it out of my (sold) 
SIII 88 petrol, and I assume it still must be all right.

I'm asking 500 guilders.........

Try to contact me by mail if you're interested

Marc Rengers
Groningen, Holland
mr@grant.media-gn.nl

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    Petrol               Diesel  
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also subscribed to LAND ROVER Owner
International (great magazine)

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From: "Alan Logue" <logue@a011.aone.net.au>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:37:35 +0930

My wife has just joined the land rover throng!
She just came home in a BMW 323i.
I know its not directly Land Rover related, but I am about to embark upon a
very steep (upward) learning curve on this rather nice little beast.
Does anyone know of a list that I can subscribe to that will help me as
much as this one has on Land Rovers???
Many thanks in anticipation
Alan Logue
Logue and Associates
PO Box 689
Morphett Vale 
South Australia
Phone Aust (61) 08-83844443

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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:51:45 +1000 (EST)
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Land Rover scale models (or toys)

there is a list at
http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Toys/
addition welcomed

Lloyd

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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:59:25 +1000
From: haystack@netspace.net.au (Doug McPherson)
Subject: Clutch problem on 110

Hi all,

I have just got myself a 2nd hand 1985 110 V8 (and just to make the
Americans a little bit jealous, I paid AUS$13500, which is about US$11000).

I now have a bit of a cluch problem. I drove it to work today, and on the
way home the clutch pedal was going very 'light' every now and again,
requiring almost no pressure to depress fully.

The clutch seemed to disengage properly most times it did this, but on time
the gears were hard to select.

I've only had the LR a week, and haven't driven it much since it needs new
tyres, but I've driven it about 100km before this with no problem.

Today was in peak hour traffic and 29deg celcius, so I think it may be heat
related.

Any ideas ? I think the clutch slave cylinder seals might be a bit stuffed,
and the cylinder expands slightly in the heat, and so the fluid bypasses
the seal, so no fluid pressure. Maybe ??

I'll start by bleeding the clutch system, and see what happens.

Any suggestions welcome.

Doug.

PS: I'm planning on getting new tyres, and I've been bugging the au-lro
list about tyres. I'm leaning towards 235/85-16 BFG Mud Terrains, but any
other suggestions welcomd.

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