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1 | karen@uni.masey.ac.nz, f | 216 | ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles |
2 | Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus [A | 5 | Who was the idiot behind the magazine subscriptions? I have a 5 |
3 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 12 | Santanas in US |
4 | Stuart Williams [STUARTW | 42 | Squeaky Wheel Fix (Short Term) |
5 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 28 | Re: Diesel Starting |
6 | "Anthony Verriello" [ver | 81 | NAS D90 Hardtop |
7 | "Bill Skidmore" [skidmor | 33 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
8 | "Tom Rowe" [TROWE@AE.AGE | 24 | Re: Who was the idiot behind the magazine subscriptions? I have |
9 | "christian (c.j.) szpilf | 24 | Hi-Lift and Disco |
10 | "christian (c.j.) szpilf | 24 | Hi-Lift and Disco |
11 | GElam30092@aol.com | 17 | Discovery racks |
12 | Ross Leidy [ross@secant. | 18 | Spotted 95 NAS D90SW |
13 | Peter Kutschera [peter@z | 18 | Re: Christmas Decorations For Your Rover? |
14 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 17 | Re: Hi-Lift and Disco |
15 | OscarM [omont@mnl.sequel | 12 | Posting upcoming events |
16 | jeff@purpleshark.com (Je | 35 | Re: Water, water everywhere... |
17 | "Bobeck, David R." [dbob | 27 | Christmas Lights, Frames, Steering Relay |
18 | jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben | 32 | Haynes FS and a SIIa encounter |
19 | "Bobeck, David R." [dbob | 23 | Christmas Camouflage |
20 | jeff@purpleshark.com (Je | 52 | Jack All (Hi-lift) accessories? |
21 | Mr Ian Stuart [Ian.Stuar | 17 | Re: Hi-Lift and Disco |
22 | RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.nav | 40 | 6 Year Corrosion Warranty |
23 | STEVE COX [Steve_Cox@del | 10 | IIA for sale in West Virginia |
24 | Keith Morehouse-WB9TIY [ | 21 | Headlight Guards for Disco's |
25 | matts@cacilj.caciasl.com | 12 | Models & Sources |
26 | David Dodell [david@dent | 20 | Model of Discovery |
27 | "Gerald" [g@ix.netcom.co | 20 | Re: Discovery racks |
28 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 83 | Results of new cam in the Range Rover. |
29 | James Kirkpatrick - INEN | 26 | 1970 IIA for Sale |
30 | "Steven Swiger (LIS)" [s | 31 | 88 RoofRacks... |
31 | "Gerald" [g@ix.netcom.co | 21 | Re: Headlight Guards for Disco's |
32 | [Chris_Browne@us014-bost | 25 | Roof Racks |
33 | "BREAKFIELD ERNEST" [bre | 28 | compressed air source |
34 | Karim El-Fishawy [karime | 27 | [not specified] |
35 | m8f@ornl.gov (M Scott Fu | 31 | 67 IIA for Sale in Tennessee |
36 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 64 | Horror story |
37 | Mike Dryfoos [mikedr@mic | 19 | oil warning light vs. pressure gauge |
38 | Kevan Shaw Lighting Desi | 15 | Oil everywhere but in the sump! |
39 | John Brabyn [brabyn@skiv | 13 | Re: Results of new cam in the Range Rover. |
40 | TONY YATES [tonyy@waalp | 36 | Re: Horror story |
41 | a-robw@microsoft.com | 38 | RE: Hi-Lift and Disco |
42 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 8 | Re: oil warning light vs. pressure gauge |
43 | Wdcockey@aol.com | 62 | Re: Series II Trivia (Valuable Knowledge) |
44 | rmodica@east.pima.edu | 29 | Xmas Rovers |
45 | a-robw@microsoft.com | 32 | RE: Xmas Rovers/Blinky SRS lights |
46 | "John C. White, III" [jc | 29 | Re: Discovery racks |
47 | DEBROWN@SRP.GOV | 29 | Help selecting a CB radio. |
48 | dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu | 25 | Re:Oil.FAQ |
49 | rlarson@lsil.com (Rick L | 36 | Re: Discovery racks |
50 | "John C. White, III" [jc | 29 | RE: Xmas Rovers/Blinky SRS lights |
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:56:32 +1000 From: karen@uni.masey.ac.nz, feldman@rentwes.org.nz, rjames@otego.ac.nz, Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+ Popular USA Titles -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day, but due to thousands of inquiries coming in per week from potential new members living overseas, the easiest time to get through is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by Karen Stern. 120495-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Karen Stern and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Karen Stern ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Alan Richer/CAM/Lotus <Alan_Richer/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com> Date: 4 Dec 95 7:58:41 EST Subject: Who was the idiot behind the magazine subscriptions? I have a 5 ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Santanas in US Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 08:06:00 EST While in Virginia for the Mid Atlantic I met a house painter who used to own a Santana. He said this was imported by a Mr Bill Dickey, a scottish refugee!, and was now back with said Mr Dickey. Anyone know of its whereabouts? Trevor Easton ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Stuart Williams <STUARTW@po1.net.cho.ge.com> Subject: Squeaky Wheel Fix (Short Term) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 08:25:00 EST >> From: PZavaletta@aol.com >> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 06:50:10 -0500 >> Subject: How To Fix Squeaky Steering Wheel? Pending a trip to our dealer for the 'official' corrective action, I fixed the squeaky wheel on my '95 Disco as follows : 1) From under the hood, locate the opening in the firewall where the steering column passes through. There will be a black rubber fitting in the opening. 2) Use a cartridge-style grease gun to apply a bead of grease into the right and left sides of the narrow gap between the firewall grommet and the steering column itself. There is a recess all around the column that extends to the actual point of contact with the steering column. 3) Take a small paintbrush (I used an old 1" wide brush) and use it spread the grease around all sides of the column to ensure coverage where it's needed. That's it! Five minutes maximum. Four weeks later and I'm still squeak-free, and mine was getting to be very insistent before 'the fix', especially on colder mornings. I had already tried greasing from the driver's side of the firewall but was unsuccessful, most likely due to a steel bracket and other obstructions that were in the way. As to type of grease, I used marine-grade lithium grease that I had on hand for the steering mechanism on our sailboat. (BTW, 'sailboat' is Latin for "fiberglass-lined hole in the water into which you pour money", so 'Rover' must be a terra firma derivative!) The results have been very satisfactory; in fact the steering feels notably smoother which would seem to indicate that there was friction even when there weren't annoying squeaks ... YMMV! Good luck, Stuart Williams '95 Disco V8i "Great White" '85 LandCruiser "Old Paint" ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:33:06 GMT -0600 Subject: Re: Diesel Starting Bill Adams asks: Snip > Therefore I think I need MORE POWER-ERGHH! Anybody have a solution to this? > I wonder if two 12v batteries in parallel would work or do I simply need to > get two ultra robust 6v units. HMMM. Get the two biggest 12v batteries that will fit. If you want to get fanatical about it one could be a deep cycle hooked only to your glow plugs and the other for cranking the starter, but I don't think that's really needed. Just get high reserve capacity and the highest cca you can. since it's a LR you amy want to consider truck batteries since they are designed to handle vibration better. Good luck. cough,cough, hack, hack. Man, where's all this smoke coming from? Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 04 Dec 1995 09:15:09 GMT From: "Anthony Verriello" <verriello_anthony@jpmorgan.com> Subject: NAS D90 Hardtop [This note has been sent to the following InterNet address(es): lro @ Land-Rover.Team.Net] Since I have spoken to a few LRO's who voiced an interest in hearing about my self installation and removal of my D90 hard top I thought I would take an opportunity to answer everyone in one shot in the digest....forgive me if this message does not interest you. I have a '94 NAS D90 that I bought before the hardtop was available. I was the first person to purchase the retrofit kit from the dealership when first imported and subsequently was the first person to discover that they had made no provision for locking and unlocking the rear gate. As far as the price goes, I paid $2500.00 US for mine. I think that this price is high, but it is the only show in town and the D90 is consderably warmer, quiter and more secure with it on. If you have a '94 you should also plan on buying the new lockset for the rear gate so you can open the door from the outside, this adds another $100-$200 US. Also the full safari cage is required if you don't have it...another costly add on. The top is not 100% draft and water tight. When I first had it installed, I let the dealer do it the first time, I was a little unsettled by the rain and drafts comming in. After having re-installed it myself and seeing how it all goes together I can honestly say that it could be made tight, but only if you want permanent seals and dont plan on removing it. Also I would not recommend installing it yourself the first time. Drilling and installing the riv-nuts will most likely not be worth the savings on the installation cost (6-8 hours of labor). Removing it and reinstalling the soft top is very straight foward and can easily be accomplished by two people in a few hours. Installation, the second time, also requires two people and since I just completed this last week let me give a few pointers: 1) Installation takes at least 5 hours!!! I started way too late and ran out of sunlight-really bad move. 2) Do it before it gets cold. Trying to line up all the holes in the various bits is nearly impossible & dangerous when the fiberglass is brittle from the cold. 3) Inventory your hardware first...I was missing some washers and things and it really caused problems. 4) Wires to overhead lights need to go under the top....not in the door jamb, unless you are not attatched to closing the drivers door. Trust me, you dont want to take the top off to remedy this. 5) Be patient...the instructions (yeah I know read LRO's dont need any) says things like 'one person should muscle the windshield into place under the top to make the holes line up as the other person bolts it down!!!' -- not something you want to rush 6) Follow the instructions and dont worry about the extra pieces that the instructions dont mention...obviously not important. All in all, I like the hardtop, dont mind taking it off, but wouldnt want to install it more than once a year. One person asked me if it could be removed for a day and reinstalled. NO WAY. Even if you didnt mind wasting half the day to do it, the top would not survive the repeated removal/installations. If anyone in the NY area needs to have their top installed/removed I am available...however I will need to charge twice the hourly rate of the dealership because I would simply bring it to them anyway and I need to make some money on the deal ;~)). I do offer free advice if anyone would like to contact me by email with questions. verriello_anthony@jpmorgan.com +-+--+-@ |_|_/|__\__ | _ |' |_ |} (Dagwood...named for his voracious appetite, =(_)=+==(_)' petrol not sandwiches) NAS '94 black D90 (happiness is pulling a jeep out of a hole) Pre-requisite anal disclaimer to follow::: The views and opinions expressed here are solely the views of myself and do not imply any opinion or view of my employer. ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 4 Dec 1995 09:25:31 -0500 From: "Bill Skidmore" <skidmore@mitre.org> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest Sandy; As you may have noticed, there have been a number of mentions of this abomination to enable me to point the finger towards the source. Hey, Major; Any chance of reconstituting the balance of that list and retransmitting it to the list members? ------ From: Owner-LRO@uk.stratus.com, Mon, Dec 4, 1995 ------ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 22:50:16 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: List wierdness The 12/2 list was truncated (or at least I received it that way). Message headers and footers from the Major were intact, but only 7 of 30+ messages. Any one else with this affliction or is my no-namo service provider screwing up? *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Tom Rowe" <TROWE@AE.AGECON.WISC.EDU> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:33:41 GMT -0600 Subject: Re: Who was the idiot behind the magazine subscriptions? I have Alan asks: > Who was the idiot behind the magazine subscriptions? I have a 5 As usual, the return address is invalid; however, one of them is a real host, Otego University in New Zealand, but the user is not listed in their gopher directory. I have e-mailed someone at the univeristy to try and find the address of the person to whom I can send the message information. Not that I think it will do any good. Most likely they've spoofed the return address. E-mail me directly if you want info I get, if any. Tom Rowe UW-Madison Center for Dairy Research 608-265-6194, Fax:608-262-1578 trowe@ae.agecon.wisc.edu Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:29:00 -0500 From: "christian (c.j.) szpilfogel" <chrisz@bnr.ca> Subject: Hi-Lift and Disco Bob Watson writes... >neat! I put a shakle adapter in the receiver hitch and used it to jack the >back of the Disco up, and the Hi-lift was up about 3-feet before the rear >wheel's got off the ground. This seems to be a problem. One of the ways I used to use the Hi-lift on an old CJ was to raise the wheels stuck in the mud and push the vehicle off of the jack and onto a non-hole. The largest Hi-lift I've seen is a 4' so 1 foot of clearance doesn't look like it leaves enough room to pull my old trick. Cheers, -Christian -------------- Christian Szpilfogel '95 Discovery Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:29:00 -0500 From: "christian (c.j.) szpilfogel" <chrisz@bnr.ca> Subject: Hi-Lift and Disco Bob Watson writes... >neat! I put a shakle adapter in the receiver hitch and used it to jack the >back of the Disco up, and the Hi-lift was up about 3-feet before the rear >wheel's got off the ground. This seems to be a problem. One of the ways I used to use the Hi-lift on an old CJ was to raise the wheels stuck in the mud and push the vehicle off of the jack and onto a non-hole. The largest Hi-lift I've seen is a 4' so 1 foot of clearance doesn't look like it leaves enough room to pull my old trick. Cheers, -Christian -------------- Christian Szpilfogel '95 Discovery Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:11:30 -0500 Subject: Discovery racks There are several ads. for racks (full-length, half-length) for the Discovery in the LRO and LRW. Has anyone purchased an after-market product? What is the carrying capacity of the your rack on the Discovery? More than the 150 lb +/- recommended? BTW: I see *tons* of stuff on top of the Camel Trophy Discoveries. I'm assuming that their racks are braced against the internal roll cages to provide more carrying strength? Can anyone in the UK with an older CT vehicle verify? Gerry "He's ain't heavy... he's my brother" Elam ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Ross Leidy <ross@secant.com> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 10:14:17 0500 Subject: Spotted 95 NAS D90SW Dropped my D90 off at the dealer today for the 2nd in anticipated series of warranty service visits. They had just received their first D90SW delivered over the weekend--alpine white, very nice. Didn't have the time to stop and drool, but I hope to go back later to check it out (if it hasn't been sold by then). Now that Winter is setting-in here in N.E. Ohio, that hardtop keeps looking better and better. For now, I'm flappin' in the breeze. ______________________________________________________ Ross Leidy (ross@secant.com) Senior Software Engineer Secant Technologies, Inc. 95 NAS D90 #3032 ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 16:30:18 +0100 From: Peter Kutschera <peter@zditr1.arcs.ac.at> Subject: Re: Christmas Decorations For Your Rover? Hello! John Y. Liu wrote: :) Well, I just finished decorating the Rover for Christmas. 200 white lights ..... :) Looks great at night, ... Can you post an image? Thanks, Peter Signature: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter Landrover: http://zditr1.arcs.ac.at/~peter/LR ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:49:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Hi-Lift and Disco On 4 Dec 95, christian (c.j.) szpilfogel wrote: > The largest Hi-lift I've seen is a 4' so 1 foot of clearance doesn't look > like it leaves enough room to pull my old trick. I've got a 5' in the back of my landy - gives you 2' of lift :-) (more likly, it gives you 1' of lift & sinks the baseplate 1' into the mud!) ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 00:01:12 +0800 From: OscarM <omont@mnl.sequel.net> Subject: Posting upcoming events Came across a web page, http://www.indirect.com/www/a4x4/4x4clubs.html, which appears to welcome postings of upcoming club events. For your info. omont@mnl.sequel.net 75247.2423@compuserve.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:26:14 -0500 From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg) Subject: Re: Water, water everywhere... Whoops, looks like a made a little mistake in my query when I responded to this thread the first time. To set the record straight, I DO have "folded over" weather stripping on my IIa. It's installed with the opening in the rubber facing the opening of the doorway, and everything is fine except for the upper portion of the drivers door, where i's refused to settle in despite the constant use of tape to hold it in place. What I meant to ask was this: It is my understanding that the original door seal was made of a full round tube, not the current "half tube" (for lack of a better description) style. Can anyone confirm, or deny this? If so, does anybody know of an alternative material that's more like what I'm told was originally fitted? This is a small problem, but I'd really like to get it straightened out and I'd rather not redo the job with the same stuff if I'm just going to have the same problem. Thanks, RoverOn! JAB == == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== My garden is full of papayas and mangos. My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos. Taste for the good life, I can see it no other way. --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version) == == ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 11:43:45 EST From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org> Subject: Christmas Lights, Frames, Steering Relay Well, being Jewish, I wouldn't likely use christmas lights, but I am looking for a Menorah shaped aerial if anybody,s got one... In the spirit of the season however, I did help my roomate, who's Rover is languishing, stripped bare of its hydraulics, to acquire a Christmas Tree and a load of firewood. I'm sure the Rover was quite happy to be engaged in such family oriented work... the back was loaded to the hilt (tilt?, nah, hardtop.) with oak and handled it with nary a groan or grind. In fact the ride actually felt smoother! On another note, picked up a used frame on Saturday, took it to its temporary home and stripped it of all its various pieces, i.e steering relay, spring bushings(burning them out was rather neat, sort of like those "snakes" you get as a kid, just way more toxic), bump stops, brake lines, etc,. Had to whack the hell out of the relay to get it out, so I guess I need a new one. Thought about getting it rebuilt but apparently it's not worth it with BM versions going for $125 US. Also noticed one front horn has been hit and is tweaked a little towards the inside of the frame. THought about using my HI-lift to try to bend it back, any ideas? Should I not bother? Also planning to galvanise, so any tips on that are welcome and appreciated. Thanks for listening. Dave Bobeck 72 SIII "Green Car" ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 11:49:25 EST From: jib@big.att.com (Jan Ben) Subject: Haynes FS and a SIIa encounter 1. the SI-II-IIa Haynes repair manual, new - $18 . 2. Driving off the beach after a windsurfing session in a New Jersey island town of Seaside, saw a "perfect" SIIa pull up to a liquor store. I pulled up behind him, jumped out of the F*rd, and yelled out something about having a Landie myself. The old man didn't slow down, just said something like "yeah?" and went in to the store. So I had time to look over the Landie. Obviously, just came off the beach. Everything, inluding tires, looked of original vintage. Very well beat, undistinguishable color paint, looked like a daily fishing/liquor store driver. 109 ragtop with 4 doors? Instead of the "genuine" ragtop, an adapted blue biminy top on marine stainless tubing covered just the front seats and a couple of feet behind them. Not at all a weather proof design, barely enough to slow rain and winter air from coming in. The old man came out, holding a bottle with a bag over it. Now he was willing to talk, but only long enough to tell me that this WAS a SW, but he cut the rear tops off, and made the "biminy" ragtop himself. "The hardtops are too stuffy", he said. Tough dude! (I bet the *real* reason was that he was getting too much interference with his mobile phone :) - sorry, couldn't resist. Let me know if you want the manual. Thanks Jan ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 11:56:58 EST From: "Bobeck, David R." <dbobeck@ushmm.org> Subject: Christmas Camouflage I was watching a show on PBS the other day, about modern camouflage techniques. One involved a LAnd-Rover 110 driving behind a cloud of smoke (must have been a diesel) which you could not see through. The next shot was the same image seen through an infrared camera, which was able to easily see right through the smoke (could be handy to have one of those onboard.) Another technique was for obscuring a dark object against a light background, by covering it with bright lights. Worked quite well, in fact it started on WWII bombers, so that the U-boat captains couldn't see 'em until it was too late. Maybe something similar could be achieved by the use of multitudes of Christmas lights, although they'd have to be white and not blinking... Just a thought Dave "too much spare time" Bobeck ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 12:05:43 -0500 From: jeff@purpleshark.com (Jeffrey A. Berg) Subject: Jack All (Hi-lift) accessories? Here's a question for the experienced offroad contingent. This will become crucial to me this summer as a friend has offered me the use of his Vermont property, an old trappers cabin, for camping, fishing, and as a base of operations for some trail exploration. Getting to the property involves crossing a (hopefully low) river. What was the first thing he bought after the property? A new LWB Series II Land-Rover of course. He had a winch and was forced to use it to get up the muddy bank a couple of times. I'm still hoping to avoid such a purchase, at least for the time being. (I may decide to get a good come-along though.) At the Mid Atlantic Rally I bought myself a 48" Jackall 8000 "hi-lift" jack. In addition to allowing me to change a tire, I'd like to have the necessary hardware to use the thing as an emergency "winch" should the need arise. I already have a 25' nylon tow strap that should at least serve as a tree strap. Now I want to fully outfit the vehicle though, as it looks like it may get some serious use. I'd really like to know what people carry in their offroad kits in terms of rope, chain, blocks, shackles, etc. Please be specific in terms of sizes, quantity, grades, materials, etc. Christmas is coming, and your list may be printed out and submitted to Santa, who will probably just hand it directly to the guy at Ace Industrial Hardware. (Mom likes Lou, he doesn't talk down to her.) Also, am I correct that the Jackall needs an attachment before it can be used for pulling? Is there a guide to the various uses for Jackall/Hi-Lift jacks? Ideally, I'd like to lay out a few problems in my driveway before trying to rig something in the middle of a river. Thanks for the input. I think it will be interesting to see what various people consider necessary. And while we're talking about it, why limit ourself to pushing/pulling/lifting. Let's go all the way and talk about what makes an all-around well equipped Rover. RoverOn! JAB == == Jeffrey A. Berg Purple Shark Media Rowayton, CT jeff@purpleshark.com ================== My garden is full of papayas and mangos. My dance card is filled with merengues and tangos. Taste for the good life, I can see it no other way. --Jimmy Buffett, Lone Palm (live version) == == ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mr Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:49:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Hi-Lift and Disco On 4 Dec 95, christian (c.j.) szpilfogel wrote: > The largest Hi-lift I've seen is a 4' so 1 foot of clearance doesn't look > like it leaves enough room to pull my old trick. I've got a 5' in the back of my landy - gives you 2' of lift :-) (more likly, it gives you 1' of lift & sinks the baseplate 1' into the mud!) ----** Ian Stuart (Computing Officer) +44 31 650 6205 Royal (Dick) School of Veterinary Studies, Edinburgh University. <http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/> or <http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/> ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:19:33 -0500 From: RICHARD_COLEMAN@fmso.navy.mil (RICHARD COLEMAN) Subject: 6 Year Corrosion Warranty Greetings, Before I write a letter to Mr. Hughes at LRNA to bitch about the subject warranty I wanted to probe the wisdom on this digest list. The upper rear hatch on our 90 RR (the money pit)--(I'll explain the name in another post) began to rust in the lower right corner. I scheduled a local body shop to do the work. In the meantime I noticed in the Atlantic British want ads that a gentleman from Cleveland, OH., who was selling his 90 RR that he had both upper and lower tailgates replaced under the 6 Year Corrosion Warranty. I called LRNA Owner Care Dept. to ask what procedure to follow. I explained the problem and was told that the warranty covered THE ENTIRE VEHICLE, to call the LR dealer and schedule an inspection by the factory rep. The inspection done, the dealer advised the warranty would not be honored because it only covered the PAINTED surface of the vehicle. Not satisfied with that I called the rep (it took several days to actually speak to this guy) and he said the same thing even reading part of the warranty to me over the phone. He also advised that he had NEVER allowed a corrosion warranty claim. Even when I mentioned the guy from Cleveland he said maybe his dealer paid for the gate replacement because he was a good customer (yeah right). I'm asking for comments and sugestions on how to handle this situation. Anyone else had any corrosion warranty work done? TIA, Rick 90 RR(the money pit) ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 12:33:28 -0500 (EST) From: STEVE COX <Steve_Cox@delphi.com> Subject: IIA for sale in West Virginia Just a quick note to those in the DC area. Looking for that last miniute stocking stuffer? Alan Biggs is looking to sell his 1965 SIIA 88" hardtop. Good condition, asking $4,500. Call Alan at 304-822-5503, Romney, WV ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 11:48:57 -0800 From: Keith Morehouse-WB9TIY <blckhole@ripco.com> Subject: Headlight Guards for Disco's A recent message mentioned the enormous coat of OEM headlight replacements. I shudder at the thought of one of them taking a direct hit while overtaking some goat-roper's Fo/Chev/Dodge pick-em-up while ascending a rock strewn hill. Does anybody know of a source (preferably NA - but anywhere will do) of polycarbonate, lexan or other roost-proof material HEADLIGHT AND FOGLIGHT COVERS for Disco's (95/96 MY) ?? No tint - no BS - just CLEAR protectors. ---------------------------###----------------------------- PROBE ELECTRONICS 100 Higgins Road, Park Ridge IL 60068 USA Keith J. Morehouse / WB9TIY / Society of Midwest Contesters 708-696-2828 FAX: 708-698-2045 e-mail: blckhole@ripco.com ---------------------------###----------------------------- ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:51:57 -0800 From: matts@cacilj.caciasl.com (Matt Snyder) Subject: Models & Sources Just received a plastic scale model Range Rover kit (normal civilian style, not police or ambulance), made by Aoshima, from Triple C. I don't have a lot of experience with models, but I find the amount of detail astonishing. The assembly instructions for the undercarriage look like pages from a shop manual (a Japanese shop manual, anyway). -Matt ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 11:14:04 -0700 From: David Dodell <david@dental.stat.com> Subject: Model of Discovery I am looking hard for a Britains Discovery Model in RED. I ordered one from Rover North, it arrived today in Green, and they claim they are all sold out, and are not planning on getting any more in. Rover Atlantic did not have them in stock either. Any other suggestions? David Dodell --- Internet : david@dental.stat.com WWW : http://www.stat.com/~david Telephone: +1-602-860-1121 FAX : +1-602-451-1165 ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Gerald" <g@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 13:14:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Discovery racks On 4 Dec 95 at 10:11, GElam30092@aol.com wrote: > There are several ads. for racks (full-length, half-length) for the Discovery > in the LRO and LRW. Has anyone purchased an after-market product? What is > the carrying capacity of the your rack on the Discovery? More than the 150 > lb +/- recommended? . . . . I asked about this a while back. Part of the issue is stability while driving with extra weight so high up. Don't know how the Camel Trophy vehicles do it. -- Gerald g@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 11:45:19 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Results of new cam in the Range Rover. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Results of new cam in the Range Rover. I know there are several Range Rover owners who were eagerly awaiting my completion of the new cam for my '87 RR. Well, here it is: I called several suppliers, British Pacific (BP), and Rovers West, and got some prices on cam and lifters for my RR since I (thought) had a lifter clicking. Then I called Crane Cams in Florida and was told that there were several available. From his description I selected a "mild RV cam" that was to provide more low end torque and possibly better fuel milage. Great! I thought, and at a price less than that of the suppliers. Parts come in, get installed (a GREAT deal of details left out here, but it was quite a job!) I also had the valves ground since I needed to replace a head gasket anyway. Basically, with the exception of main bearings and rings, a "new" engine. Of course, there were the usual surprises along the way, some expected (timing gear and chain worn) some not (A/C fans worn out, one was unplugged, and an A/C hose). We discovered that the "noisy lifter" was actually a combination of a worn out pushrod and rocker, and a "flat" cam lobe. (Not actually "flat" but very noticeably worn down.) Finally back together. Starts with a bit of difficulty, we brake in the cam and test drive. Seems to idle with a bit of a lope, (cool!) but doesn't seem to have any power. Like I have to floor it to even go anywhere. Something was definitely wrong!!! To make a long story short (too late) I resorted to calling Crane Cams technical support number. The guy started asking me about the compression, and lifter pre-load, when he suddenly stops and says "Wait a minute... What was that cam number?" He then tells me that that was for a non-computer vehicle and will not work with the RR. He said that all he could do was to send me out the correct one (charging to my visa card) and allow credit for the wrong one upon it's return. And the correct cam was around $85 more than the other one. Being stuck, I agreed. They rushed it out and it was installed. Now, to test drive. Smooth idle, good. .. performance (mind you, this is at 6000 foot elevation) fair. Not great, but not bad. Pretty much as it was with the old cam. We played with the timing a bit, but it never really made that much difference. I'm still going to experiment with the vacuum advance, switching it from ported vacuum to manifold vacuum to see if that makes any difference. Back in Phoenix (1200 foot level) much better than Flagstaff (6000 foot) but again, pretty much same as stock. While I would definitely say that this is not the final verdict, the preliminary verdict is: No noticeable difference. The RR does run better, but I don't know if it's the valve job, or cam. And the difference that I DO notice is so slight that I would NOT recommend changing to this cam for better performance. Again, this could change, depending on my testing with the vacuum advance. The heroes of my cam ordeal: British Pacific! (Shameless plug: great people, helpful, speedy service, reasonable prices, CALL 1-800-554-4133) They rushed extra parts to me as we came across bad things, provided the head bolt spec's (I have a book now) rushed out the 2nd set of valley pan and timing cover gaskets (to do the cam again). After a very tactful but stern letter to Crane Cams, they called me to inform me that they'll pay for the 2nd set of gaskets needed and the labor for doing the cam the 2nd time. Even though they made the initial error, they made it right as best they were able. I'd recommend them! (Now to dig up all those receipts!) I'll post more on this (cam) as I experiment with it. BTW, I used the RR to tow the 109 back from Flagstaff. On a long mountain hill, the 109 slowed to around 7-15 miles per hour (no speedometer) when towing the RR, and the RR slowed to around 30-35 when towing the 109. But, the RR was loaded with 3 kids myself and a dog, the 109 was loaded with several guns, tools, jack, and a complete turbo V6 Buick engine in the back. Disclaimer: This was my experience. Your "milage" may vary. Thanks for the bandwidth. Please feel free to e-mail of you have any questions. Dave Brown debrown@srp.gov #=======# ________ We make a living by what we get, |__|__|__\___ /__/__|__\___ we make a life by what we give. | _| | |_ |} \_/-\_|__/-\_|} "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Winston Churchill ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: James Kirkpatrick - INEN/F94 <jkirkpat@acs.ryerson.ca> Subject: 1970 IIA for Sale If Santa is looking to replace his Sleigh, I've got the toy he needs. I have decided to sell my 1970 IIA, which being a nice poppy red should make a wonderful replacement for Santa. It is a straight forward IIA, it has been invited to be on display for the last two years in the local mall where is ususally stands out amongst a bunch of MGAs and E types. I've owned her for 4 years and driven it daily to work for two of those years. London, Ontario is located about 2 hours north east of Detroit and 2 hours from Buffalo, New York for those of you in the States. Depending on timing and other arrangements we are still looking for a road trip over the Christmas holidays perhaps meeting 1/2 way or more. I'm asking $3000. Canadian and may go lower but I would like to take out the back seats and perhaps trade back the high ratio diffs. If is helps I think that $3000 Cnd is $2160US today. Happy Holidays Jay Kirkpatrick '55 Series I '58 Series II '70 Series IIA jkirkpat@acs.ryerson.ca ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven Swiger (LIS)" <swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu> Subject: 88 RoofRacks... Howdy all, does anyone have a good source for aftermarket full length roof racks for a S.III 88", relatively cheaply? By that I mean not Rovers North pricing... thnx in advance, steve _________________________________ |_______|_______|_______|_______| "Moose" | ____________ | | \\ '73 III 88" | / | \ | | \\ ________ | | | | | | \\ | | | \______|_____/ |______|_______\\___|________|__ |___________________|_______________|---------------\ | [] [] [] | | 0 |) | |--] | | _| / OOOOO | | OOOOO |__ |_|____I OO o o OO ___|_______________|___ OO o o OO ____| 0 OO o 0 o OO OO o 0 o OO OO o OO "Tread Lightly" OO o OO OOOOO OOOOO Florida Rover Canvas Steve Swiger swiger@luna.cas.usf.edu (813) 874-5391 (813) 253-0905 (Work) ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Gerald" <g@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:47:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Headlight Guards for Disco's On 4 Dec 95 at 11:48, Keith Morehouse-WB9TIY wrote: > Does anybody know of a source (preferably NA - but anywhere will do) > of polycarbonate, lexan or other roost-proof material HEADLIGHT AND > FOGLIGHT COVERS for Disco's (95/96 MY) ?? The U.K. Discovery accessory catalog has clear headlight protecters. Don't recall what they are made off. Don't have catalog with me to give part number. Do U.K. Disco's have differently shaped headlights? If not these might work. I like them better than the metal grids. -- Gerald g@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 04 Dec 95 16:07:36 EST From: <Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com> Subject: Roof Racks Land Rover Owners are lucky in having so many companies catering to our needs (whims?) when it come to roof racks. Brownchurch, Bearmarch, Land Rover's own equipment etc. Over here in the USA we have some but not all of the products. Have any of you inspected or bought the LiteRacs roof rack? I'm interested in any comments good bad or ugly on quality of construction, design, problems encountered in use etc. While I have no plans to mount the unit permanently on the vehicle I would like to be able to mount spots on the rack CT/La Ruta Maya style. And while we're at it please comment on any other roof rack products. Thanks Chris_Browne@us014-boston-minet.ccmail.compuserve.com Brit in Boston 95 Discovery I wave and go off road. ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 13:38:39 PST From: "BREAKFIELD ERNEST" <breakfield.ernest@smtpgateway.centigram.com> Subject: compressed air source hello all! not recommended (by me), but submitted as food for thought; one idea i saw for air pressure for off roading involved a custom bumper (of the 'tube' type) fitted w/ a connector for an air hose. seems the chap had a custom bumper made with a tube as if an air pressure vessel, and simply pumped it up @ the service station when convenient before air'ed-down off roading, plugging the hose into the bumper to re-air when returning to pavement. very convenient, but i'd wouldn't want to be around (spotting?) were he to slip into something solid whilst under full pressure. don't remember how much pressure he used, but the air volume was apparently adequate for airing up 4 slightly larger than average tires. this guy was the sort that lived out in the Sierras where arrow-hunted bear meat is still considered a staple (only in season, of course, Mr. warden!), not the sort to be concerned about trifles like vehicular regulations and the such, so i wouldn't dare speak for the legalities of driving public highways with a compressed air cylinder for a bumper... (i know even SCUBA tanks are regulated by our Dept. of Motor Vehicles as it's assumed they will be transported by auto.) ciaou, e ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Subject: Buying or Selling a used Land Rover? Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 14:22:30 -0800 From: Karim El-Fishawy <karime@wsykare.cup.hp.com> Just wanted to let people know about a great service on the Web that makes buying and selling used Land Rovers a snap. Classifieds2000 (http://www.Classifieds2000.com) is a free public service that actually does your shopping for you. You simply specify the type of Land Rover you are looking for (including model, year, price range, mileage, body style, transmission...) and every time another user inputs a Land Rover onto the system meeting your criteria you are notified via email. Every morning you will have a brand new listing of Land Rovers matching your search criteria. The feature in Classifieds2000 is called "Cool-Notify" and it is actually a really neat way to shop. Plus, if you are selling your car, you can list your ad for free on Classifieds2000. http://www.classifieds2000.com | _____ | ___/__|__\__| (__ ______ __)= ooo ______(O)_____(O)________ ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: m8f@ornl.gov (M Scott Fugate) Subject: 67 IIA for Sale in Tennessee I was delighted to learn of two new Series Land Rovers in my fair city of Knoxville, Tennessee USA last week. This brings the grand total up to six in a town of that's the third largest in the state. Unfortunately one of these new found local Rovers is for sale. The owner just finished restoring it, and then decided to go back to medical school. No time and no money for him for a few years, so the Rover has to go. It's a '67 IIA with only 38,152 original miles. Seems it was bought new by a Texas oil man for his wife, and she didn't ever get the knack of the gear shifting. The Rover was stored in a barn and only used occasionally by the husband to check on his wells. The current owner says when he picked it up, the inside of the left front wing was coated in old crude. Frame is said to be perfect, and interior is original in great shape. The current owner repainted it (Limestone over Marine Blue) and rebuilt the brakes, etc. Asking price is a pretty steep $13,500. Could be a good opportunity for someone who wants a Series Rover that's "ready to go", I guess. Owner's name is Carl Wheeler, phone number 423-522-0619. All standard disclaimers apply. I haven't seen this truck, and only have talked to the owner once, but if somebody is serious about buying it, I would be willing to go check it out and offer an opinion before you travel. YMMV. Scott Fugate 1970 IIA 1989 RR BT ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 16:31:33 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Horror story FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Horror story John writes (in reference to my cam changing post.) ========================================================================= Reply-To: johannes@uiuc.edu Thast was an amazing story indeed. So you had to pull everything to get that cam in and out twice? Aaargh. I have a new Disco and am curious about what sort of milage you had on your RR engine when you had this worn lifter and lobe problem? What was your oil changing pattern like. Was the inside pretty clean? I am a 2500 mile changer and am just curious about what I can look forward to. I also plan to go to synthetic 5-50 at the next change or so. Thanks a lot, John Friedman ======================================================================== John, and others; I bought the RR about 3 months ago for $8,500. A real bargain, right? Well... As they say, "Caveat emptor". I got it for that price for several reasons, mainly, the lack of care that was very apparent. But, my desire was for a capable yet comfortable trail vehicle. The lack of wax, dry (cracking) leather seats, broken seat switches, torn carpet in the rear seat, cheapie "Audiovox" CD player, etc... didn't really bother me. My only concern was the "lifter" noise. I could tell, just by looking in the oil fill hole that it had NOT been maintained as claimed, and assumed that possibly the lifter was just plugged up. The RR has (now) 48K on the odometer, but an additional 50K on the vehicle. (Or so the story goes! The speedometer was replaced around 50K.) So, roughly 100K on a neglected engine. (Trans still looks good, as does the diff fluid.) All in all, I still think I got a good deal. I still have less than 10K into her, have added a rear Lock-Right, seat switch, (still need one) removed the front spoiler and rear spot lights (for clearance on trails) and don't have to cringe when I run into a bush, or get dinged from a rock. I'm happier this way! ;-) BTW, this RR had previously NEVER been off-road. Totally spotless undercarriage, NO rust (Arizona) no scratches or dings, (just faded, lack of wax.) New tyres. So, let that be a lesson for us all... FREQUENT OIL CHANGES! And the V8 should last a good, long time. Neglect her, and you'll most definitely regret it! To me, the 5-50 sounds like quite a large range. I'm no oil expert, but the more the "range", the more "thingies" (told you I'm no expert) that they have to add to allow it to do this, and the more "thingies", the quicker the oil breaks down. I'd rather see someone go with 20-50 rather than 5-50. I live in Phoenix (78 degrees today) where it's very mild, and I use straight 30 or 40. Maybe this isn't the best, and if not, someone please educate me. I have 2 cases of "Golden Spectrol" 20W50 motorcycle oil that I'm going to start using at my next oil change (Synthetic). Any comments on this? Please? So, everyone... change your oil!! OFTEN!!! #=======# ________ We make a living by what we get, |__|__|__\___ /__/__|__\___ we make a life by what we give. | _| | |_ |} \_/-\_|__/-\_|} "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Winston Churchill ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Dryfoos <mikedr@microsoft.com> Subject: oil warning light vs. pressure gauge Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:10:44 -0800 A question on my '71 SIIA. Is it better to believe my oil pressure warning light or my oil pressure gauge? The oil pressure warning light is coming on at idle. The oil pressure gauge installed by the previous owner, and it reads around 28-30 psi at idle. The light goes out when I increase revs to the point that the gauge reads 40 psi. Idle speed is smooth and normal. The gauge reads 50-60 psi when moving. The crankcase is full, and the oil was changed about 300 miles ago. Earlier this year I would see the warning light come on when the gauge read about 20 psi or below, I feel reasonably comfortable that the gauge is accurate. What would be causing the sensor that triggers the light to object to 30 psi at idle? ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:30:11 +0000 From: Kevan Shaw Lighting Design <postmaster@krshaw.demon.co.uk> Subject: Oil everywhere but in the sump! I have an '82 88" diesel which runs fine except it has a habit of chucking lots of oil out the breather on the rocker cover, particularly on long runs. The local Land-Rover Gurus keep winding tape round the breather cap to no avail. The problem is longstanding, i.e. ever since I have owned the thing, the engine runs well, starts well and only shows a very little smoke at the oil filler, so I guess there is a bit of blow-by at the piston rings however it was recently compression tested and pronounced within operating limits. Anyone any ideas as to what could be a cure? Thanks, Kevan Shaw ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Brabyn <brabyn@skivs.ski.org> Subject: Re: Results of new cam in the Range Rover. Thanks Dave for telling us all about this -- it might save us a lot of effort in the future! Much appreciated John Brabyn 89RR ------------------------------[ <- Message 40 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 10:03:59 +0800 (WST) From: TONY YATES <tonyy@waalpha.wa.BoM.GOV.AU> Subject: Re: Horror story OK all you oil gurus out there, here are some slippery questions (ha ha): Is synthetic oil worth the extra money? Is it worth it in an old and slightly tired motor? Is it OK to use in a new motor? Regarding non synthetics, how do you pick a "good" oil? They seem to vary enormously in cost but all claim to exceed all known specifications. Cheers. ==================================================================== _____________________ /_____________________\ Tony Yates | | | | Port Hedland _ | _________ _ _________ | _ Western Australia |-| |[_________] [_________]| |-| |_| ----------------------- |_| \| \ =============== / |/ A.Yates@bom.gov.au ======================= |o _ |===========| _ o| Opinions expressed /| (_)|===========|(_) |\ here are almost but ||o____|===========|____o|| not quite entirely ||________[PAMELA]_______|| unlike those of the \[_______________________]/ Bureau of Meteorology. |\|/|---\_/---------|\|/| |\|/| |\|/| ----- ----- ===================================================================== ------------------------------[ <- Message 41 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: a-robw@microsoft.com Subject: RE: Hi-Lift and Disco Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 18:15:34 -0800 Yea, that thought crossed my mind, too. What would be neat would be a strap or bracket or something that you could attach to the tire so you could just jack up the tire, sort of like what a tow truck uses, maybe. Another idea, I've heard of is to replace the plastic trim piece under the doors with a steel square tube and jack from the side. ---------- From: christian (c.j.) szpilfogel[SMTP:chrisz@bnr.ca] Sent: Monday, December 04, 1995 6:29 AM Subject: Hi-Lift and Disco Bob Watson writes... >neat! I put a shakle adapter in the receiver hitch and used it to jack the >back of the Disco up, and the Hi-lift was up about 3-feet before the rear >wheel's got off the ground. This seems to be a problem. One of the ways I used to use the Hi-lift on an old CJ was to raise the wheels stuck in the mud and push the vehicle off of the jack and onto a non-hole. The largest Hi-lift I've seen is a 4' so 1 foot of clearance doesn't look like it leaves enough room to pull my old trick. Cheers, -Christian -------------- Christian Szpilfogel '95 Discovery Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------[ <- Message 42 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: oil warning light vs. pressure gauge I'd replace the sender, or find another gague you can temporailly plumb in place of the sender and go with the majority vote. ------------------------------[ <- Message 43 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Wdcockey@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:52:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Series II Trivia (Valuable Knowledge) Here is the collective wisdom and my analysis of the responses to: >What are 4 standard features and 1 option which differentiate a 1958-60 >Series II from the later Series IIA, and are can be seen without lifting the >hood (bonnet)? LR transitioned from the Series II to the IIA spec through 61 until the announcement of the IIA with the 2.25 diesel and significant changes to 2.25 petrol in late 61, so 61s with mixed features are seen. II exclusives -Valence panel between front bumper and grille - square rather than rounded on IIA & III (Duncan Brown). -Horn button on stalk, changed to steering wheel center in mid 60 (Duncan Brown). -One piece front doors - some but not all II SWs and hardtops. Im only aware of on 58 and 59, both 88 and 109 (Duncan Brown, Jeremy Bartlett). -Ventilator hinges on bulkhead - attached to lids with bolts rather than rivets. -Ventilator controls - knobs rather than levers, changed to levers in mid 60. -Inspection cover over transmission in front floor. Access panel which swings away. Used 58 -60. -Vehicle (chassis) number - on right front spring horn and plate on bulkhead. Series II first digit is 1, and no suffix letter. Fourth digit is last digit of year. Series IIA first digit is 2, have suffix letter A thru H, and no year indicator. (Ben Smith). -Optional flashers (turn signals) switch - lever on dash acc. panel for IIs with horn button on stalk. Definitive info not avail. -Pendent steering arms (located on top of swivel balls)- claimed by several sources to be II exclusive, but listed in Series IIA parts book (Duncan Brown, Ben Smith). -Taillights -various Lucas, Wipac and Sparto used. Parts book indicates change with suffix B on non-NADA, dont know when changed in NADA. Not II exclusives -Headlights with chrome rims - used in North America through 67, dropped in 63 or so elsewhere with suffix B. This often confuses trans-Atlantic visitors and owners of recent imports. -Exhaust system exits through left front wheelhouse - used on diesels thru 75, also on 6 cyl. -Door locks with external pawl and lock cylinder attached to handle - used on early IIAs through 64? -IIA diesel have diesel badge on grille. II & IIA petrol dont have badge. -Prongs welded to rear corner cappings - used through at least 68 according to parts book. Ill be glad to discuss above with anyone, and will appreciate any additional info. Remember that parts get mixed over time. David Cockey 1960 II 88 SW 1960 II 88 PU (nee hardtop) 8/10 of 1959 II 88" SW ------------------------------[ <- Message 44 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: rmodica@east.pima.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 20:19:24 MST Subject: Xmas Rovers Well, well, well. And I thought I was the only Crazy in the bunch. My front yard has my 109 outlined in 600 white lights with a lighted Santa in the driver's seat. We thought about doing it last year, but figured the neigbors would think us daft. (With three Land Rovers they prbably already do.) As soon as the lights came on several neighbors expressed delight. John's set up sounds like he can drive around all lit up. That should be something to see. On the serious side--. Last week I disconnected the battery cables in my Disco to clean off corrosion. Upon replacing the cables the radio needed rearming as expected (leave key on for one hour and reenter code), but the SRS light came on and the right hand S of the SRS blinks for a moment and then remains lit --as does the entire SRS display. Called the nearest dealer in Scottsdale (110 miles N) and asked for advice. Their reply - "Come up and have us connect you to our CDROM analyzer." "Can't you give me a hint over the phone?" "No, we have to connect you to the computer." "what about the black box codes?" "The Discos don't have a readout like the D-90s, come to our computer." Anyone have any ideas what's happened to my SRS? Rob Modica 1951 SI 80" 1960 SII109" Safari Tucson, AZ 1994 Disco 5spd "Casper" e-mail rmodica@east.pima.edu snail mail 6425 E. Hayne St. Tucson AZ 85710-4638 ------------------------------[ <- Message 45 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: a-robw@microsoft.com Subject: RE: Xmas Rovers/Blinky SRS lights Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:04:09 -0800 On the serious side--. Last week I disconnected the battery cables in my Disco to clean off corrosion. Upon replacing the cables the radio needed rearming as expected (leave key on for one hour and reenter code), but the SRS light came on and the right hand S of the SRS blinks for a moment and then remains lit --as does the entire SRS display. Called the nearest dealer in Scottsdale (110 miles N) and asked for advice. Their reply - "Come up and have us connect you to our CDROM analyzer." "Can't you give me a hint over the phone?" "No, we have to connect you to the computer." "what about the black box codes?" "The Discos don't have a readout like the D-90s, come to our computer." Anyone have any ideas what's happened to my SRS? --------- For fear of this, or other strange things, happening to mine when I've ben working on the electrical stuff, I've always jumpered the battery to the electrical buss while fiddling with the wires so that the battery is always connected to the myriad of on-board computers. Let us know what you find out. I hope it's nothing serious. Does the (is there a) display under the passenger seat say anything? ------------------------------[ <- Message 46 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:48:25 -0800 From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com> Subject: Re: Discovery racks I've got the "expedition" rack, which is exactly like the one in the "La Ruta Maya" video tape LRNA was (is?) mailing out to new owners. It mounts on the rain channel so there is no increase in the amount of weight you can carry. I too noticed the amount of stuff that it appeared the Camel Trophy Discoveries carried. We're probably right to assume that they can do this because the racks are mounted to the roll cages. One thing to consider too is that putting a lot of weight on the roof may alter the handling of the vehicle enough to be dangerous. By the way, I got my rack at a Land Rover dealership. Word to the wise: I called around to the local dealerships to get the best price. The prices I was quoted varied by over $200. (!) Cheers! John '95 Discovery At 10:11 04.12.95 -0500, GElam30092@aol.com wrote: >There are several ads. for racks (full-length, half-length) for the Discovery >in the LRO and LRW. Has anyone purchased an after-market product? What is [ truncated by lro-digester (was 13 lines)] >vehicle verify? >Gerry "He's ain't heavy... he's my brother" Elam ------------------------------[ <- Message 47 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 22:06:43 MST From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV Subject: Help selecting a CB radio. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 SUBJECT: Help selecting a CB radio. I need to get a CB radio for trail runs, and need help selecting one that best suits my needs. I know NOTHING (well, very little anyway) about them. I only need it for talking to other trail members, and plan to use a 2-meter radio for longer distance (once I get my licence). Should I go with the basic $50 cobra small size, basic functions, or the larger size that has various functions for around $120? Should I get a power mike? Which antenna should I get? Any mounting locations or suggestions? They will be used mostly in a 1987 Range Rover, but may be used in a 1971 Land Rover as well. Thanks, Dave Brown debrown@srp.gov #=======# ________ We make a living by what we get, |__|__|__\___ /__/__|__\___ we make a life by what we give. | _| | |_ |} \_/-\_|__/-\_|} "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Winston Churchill ------------------------------[ <- Message 48 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb) Subject: Re:Oil.FAQ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:50:13 +1030 (CST) Tony asks something we've all pondered: > Is synthetic oil worth the extra money? > Is it worth it in an old and slightly tired motor? > Is it OK to use in a new motor? > > Regarding non synthetics, how do you pick a "good" oil? They seem to vary > enormously in cost but all claim to exceed all known specifications. Tony the best I can suggest is to read Ed Hackett's oil.faq found guess where :-) http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/RoverWeb/OilFAQ.html Thanks to Dixon and Ben for including one. There is other predominantly commercial oil stuff kicking around, but Ed's seems to explain in language even I can understand....... -- Daryl Webb (dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au) ------------------------------[ <- Message 49 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 22:14:48 -0700 From: rlarson@lsil.com (Rick Larson) Subject: Re: Discovery racks >From the Saftey Devices Catalog: Discovery 5 Door The five door Discovery superseded the three door as the main vehicle for the Camel Trophy. Consequently the five door version of the Discovery roll cage has been developed, providing full protection of the occupants but allowing access through the rear doors. The cage is similar to the two door, with backstays moved from the conventional position to run horizontally to the 'D' posts at the rear of the vehicle to allow maximum load space. Once again, the cage is phosphated and black polyester coated. It is necessary to specify if a Camel Trophy roof rack is to be used as this bolts to the cage through the vehicle roof. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A diagonal brace can be added to the main hoop for Police specification or extreme off-road conditions. -Rick At 8:48 PM 12/4/95 -0800, John C. White, III wrote: >I've got the "expedition" rack, which is exactly like the one in the "La Ruta >Maya" video tape LRNA was (is?) mailing out to new owners. It mounts on the [ truncated by lro-digester (was 32 lines)] >>vehicle verify? >>Gerry "He's ain't heavy... he's my brother" Elam ------------------------------[ <- Message 50 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 22:45:46 -0800 From: "John C. White, III" <jcwhite3@well.com> Subject: RE: Xmas Rovers/Blinky SRS lights According to the shop manual "In the event of a fault in the system the warning light will illuminate and begin modulating. The airbag diagnostic control unint logs the fault which can only be accessed using TestBook." (TestBook is a portable computer used by the mechanics. The drawing of it has what appears to be an ejected CD-ROM.) There is no indication anywhere that I can find about what might be wrong. I do notice however that there are a lot of warnings throughout this chapter. One reads, "Do not use electrical test equipment on the airbag harness or connectors. Tampering with or disconnecting the harness could result in accidental firing of the airbag or make the system inoperative, which may result in serious injury." The very next sentence reads in bold print, "An airbag system fault can only be diagnosed using TestBook." Looks like there's a trip to Scottsdale in your future. Sorry. John At 20:04 04.12.95 -0800, a-robw@microsoft.com wrote: >To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net >On the serious side--. Last week I disconnected the battery cables in my [ truncated by lro-digester (was 35 lines)] >out. I hope it's nothing serious. Does the (is there a) display under the >passenger seat say anything? ------------------------------[ <- Message 51 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 951205 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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