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1 JDolan2109@aol.com 12Address request
2 Lloyd Allison [lloyd@cs.37portal axle conversion
3 LANDROVER@delphi.com 30Re: Next question
4 LANDROVER@delphi.com 28Re: A/C for Series Land Rovers
5 LANDROVER@delphi.com 28Re: Limited slip not in a LR Series IIa.
6 Sekerere@aol.com 17Shopping in Africa
7 jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (43High Speed Aerodynamics or EFI?? (D90/RR) - trivial questions
8 Dixon Kenner [dkenner@em15Re: High Speed Aerodynamics or EFI?? (D90/RR) - trivial questions
9 Steve Rochna [75347.452@18Down East Photos
10 johnliu@earthlink.net (J10WTB: Bench Seats
11 dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu28Science V's Religion V's LRO's
12 Aerostich/Andy Goldfine 26Land Rover Picnic Invitation


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From: JDolan2109@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 08:32:44 -0400
Subject: Address request

Does anyone have postal/voice/fax addresses for Mike Smith at East Coast
Rovers in Maine? If so could you please e-mail them to me (direct is fine).
TIA
See 'ya on the old road...
Jim  '61 88" SW / OD, 1 Bbl weber & 16's   (econobox?)
LR....quite possibly one of the best machines yet devised! 

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 23:34:12 +1000
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: portal axle conversion

Does anyone know the address of the company that makes the
Portal-Axle conversion for Land-Rovers?
There was a pic' of a 110 in LROI recently, and I've seen another
pic' somewhere else a few years back.
(Looks impressive, 9.00x16 tyres too, need a ladder.)
They also do 3-point linkage and various PTO options as I recall.

Diff locks - I have a *little* info' in ...tildeLand-Rover/Axles/index.html
I don't know if (or where) maxi-drive are still going.  They had the strongest
kit a while ago.  Allegedly the army tested them by doing figures of eight for
an hour or so. The tyres didn't like it!
   There is a "cheap option", a (?McNamara?) diff' lock:
the diff has a modified spider with a spline through it.
A longer half-shaft can be wound in/out by a nut on the hub,
so as to engage the spline.  It involves getting out of the vehicle.
Rear only obviously.

The portable petrol-driven winch always seemed a great idea to me -
can be fitted front or aft and even tied to a tree.
However, the unit didn't look very heavy duty, although
I don't actually know its rating.

The concensus on my "aerodynamic feature" is that many Rovers can have
it - series with sharp or rounded bonnets and maybe a RR!
But I've had a S2A with a sharp bonnet and driven one with a rounded
bonnet and they never threw water at me - weird. It must be
some random feature of individual vehicles.

LSD: A friend's S2A SW had an LSDiff - but I'm not sure if it was factory
fitted or added later (it wasn't much use after a little wear!).

Lloyd

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:04:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Next question

Trevor asks...

> Does anyone know of a self contained portable winch with an IC engine? 
> Something like a chain saw with wire instead of a chain. This could be a 
> valuable recovery tool attachable between and two objects that need to be 
> pulled together.

This info may be a bit out of date.. June 1989 issue of "Peterson's 4 wheel
and Off Road" magazine had a list of various winches. They show a self
contained unit called the "Helper Winch" Looks like a winch with a chain saw
mounted on the back! Supposed to be 8000 lb pull. No price shown. 
Helper Winch
410 S Main St
PO Box 968
Torrington, WY 82240
(307) 532-7622

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (On the Road!)      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:04:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A/C for Series Land Rovers

Uncle Roger describes a device....

> *very* interesting device.  It was some sort of air-conditioner (or
sorts).  
> It was basically a tube about 8" or so in diameter and maybe 1.5' long,
with a> 
> part that went through the window.  So looking head on from the front, it 
> looked like this:

Someone was asking about this type of device a while back if I recall.. I
think that they were built in the 1930's (maybe 40's?) and used ice as part
of the cooling. The air coming in drove a fan which in turn drove a blower
to circulate air around an ice chamber. This was all described to me
second hand... Don't have any idea how long the ice lasted.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (On the Road!)      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:04:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Limited slip not in a LR Series IIa.

David Brown asks about winch prices...

> BTW, Anyone find a better price on a warn 8274 than $740 US. (Complete
> with rollers and 150' cable.) Warn doesn't make a receiver hitch mount
> for this winch, so it looks like I buy one for the front AND rear of
> EACH vehicle?? NOT! I'm FAR too parsimonious!

David.. pick up a copy of some four-wheeler magazine and look for an add
from Leon Rosser Jeep in Alabama (800-633-4724). I bought a Ramsey 8000lb
winch a few years ago via mail order from them. It was $419 (in 1989). The
same winch in local 4WD supply places was going for over $700. 
As far as a receiver hitch mount, you'll probably have to design something
yourself. Besides, with 8000 lbs of pull, I think I would rather have the
winch mounted good and solid.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (On the Road!)      
              7          1972 Ser III 88 Petrol ("Fern")
           #:-}>         1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol (Parts is Parts)

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From: Sekerere@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:41:07 -0400
Subject: Shopping in Africa

Hi everyone, well this Arizona LRO is back from seven weeks in Africa. Looked
at lots of land rovers and in lots of scrap yards. In fact every scrap yard
and car breaker from Bindura, Zimbabwe to Bulawayo, Zimbabwe to find a
tailgate for my Series IIA. Eventually successful in Harare at the princely
sum of Zimbabwe $ 250 (US $29 so as not to start another round of guessing
how much a foreign currency is worth). Reconditioned swivel hubs for very
reasonable price, and other assorted bits and pieces. So much to my wife's
horror we lugged these items back with us. Saw some really interesting LRs,
and some rather sad ones. Plenty of Discoveries driving around, a lot of
Santanas in Zimbabwe-the police use them. Also quite a few Defenders. But
then Africa is the land of Land Rovers.

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 13:38:19 -0700
From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett)
Subject: High Speed Aerodynamics or EFI?? (D90/RR) - trivial questions

OK here's a really important question (yes I'm being sarcastic) :) :

On my D90 (US version) I've noticed that when my speedometer gets into 
the 85-90mph range (actual speed 80-85mph) the vehicle occasionally 
experiences intermittent, but irregular, mild "hesitation".  This lasts 
for about 1 to 1.5 seconds per occurrence.   Time between occurrences 
may range from 15 seconds to a couple of minutes. Weather 
(temperature/wind etc.) seems irrelevant as I've observed this in 
several conditions (and altitudes).  I'm particularly 
UNCONCERNED about this given the rarity of the conditions under which 
its observed BUT was wondering what the cause might be.

My prime candidate is aerodynamic effects.  The boundary layer on these 
beasts seems to pretty much disappear around 50 mph (judging by 
raindrops on the windscreen), so I doubt there's anything happening with 
this.  However, I was wondering if there might be significant rear 
vortex collapse (or front layer build up?) causing this.  Any thoughts? 

The thought that interests me most is whether this hesitation is 
related to EFI performance.  I don't know enough about EFI to say if at 
speeds beyond those regularly anticipated for the vehicle such a 
hesitation effect would appear.  At first guess I'd have said no since 
the rpm isn't out of range compared to other speeds.  However, maybe the 
fuel delivery can't always keep pace at the rate of usage the system is 
probably undergoing at these speeds  --- err sorry at this speedometer 
reading :).  Anybody any comments on whether EFI could be causing this?

Any RR owners experienced anything similar?  Any other D90 owners?  
[Sorry-I'm assuming the Series folks don't reach such reckless 
(terminal?) velocities.]

Ignorant minds are intrigued :)

Cheers,

Jeremy Bartlett
D90 '94
SIIA 109SW '65

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dixon Kenner <dkenner@emr1.emr.ca>
Subject: Re: High Speed Aerodynamics or EFI?? (D90/RR) - trivial questions

On Sun, 23 Jul 1995, Jeremy Bartlett wrote:

> Any RR owners experienced anything similar?  Any other D90 owners?  
> [Sorry-I'm assuming the Series folks don't reach such reckless 
> (terminal?) velocities.]

	We change the speedo to one denoted in kph for the thrill of breaking
	90...

	:-)

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Date: 23 Jul 95 20:03:35 EDT
From: Steve Rochna <75347.452@compuserve.com>
Subject: Down East Photos

Bob Virzi:

No luck mailing you direct.  That's my 72 SER III 88" (reg # ZUY 5845) and the
address is:

Steve Rochna
708 Daimler Dr.
Virginia Beach, Va. 23454

Thanks in advance and let me know which one was yours, I may have some photos
for you.

Steve.

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 19:56:51 -0700
From: johnliu@earthlink.net (John Y. Liu)
Subject: WTB: Bench Seats

I'm looking at a pair of used folding bench seats for my 109.  They are
$200.  Does anyone have comments on how good/bad this price is, or have a
pair for sale?
John Y. Liu
johnliu@earthlink.net

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From: dwebb@waite.adelaide.edu.au (Daryl Webb)
Subject: Science V's Religion V's LRO's
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:47:21 +0930 (CST)

The recent postings of Mike and others had me searching for a couple of
quotes I quite like.  Its taken me a while to find them :-(, so lets not
start the whole thing again...    Remember folks these are meant to be
humourous, not an attack on anyone.

SCIENCE: A way of finding things out and then making them work. Science
explains what is happening around us the whole time. So does RELIGION, but
science is better because it comes up with more understandable excuses when
it is wrong. There is a lot more Science than you think.
        -- From A Scientific Encyclopedia for the Enquiring Young Nome
           by Angalo de Haberdasheri
           (Terry Pratchett, Wings)

The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist
on coming along and trying to put things in it.
        -- (Terry Pratchett, Diggers)

P.S. Charlie how are the Brakes ??

-- 

  Daryl

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Date: 24 Jul 95 01:32:05 EDT
From: Aerostich/Andy Goldfine <74544.323@compuserve.com>
Subject: Land Rover Picnic Invitation

You are all invited to the 11th annual LAND ROVER PICNIC.  This year the event
is from August 10 - 13th (Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and is 
located near Backus, Minnesota (North Central Minnesota).  

Directions:  Go North on hwy #371 through the town of Backus and take the 
first gravel road to the West.  Look for the Rover Rally signs after a couple 
of miles.

Activities:  Camping, trail riding, potato shooting, potluck food and spirit 
consumption, yelling at the moon, lame excuseses and Rover related stories, 
etc...

Price: None.

Attendance: In previous years between 6 and 30 Land Rovers & Range Rovers have
participated from MI, WI, MN, IA and other central states.  This is an off 
road driving - winching - camping event that usually moves to a different site
each year, but this year is a repeat location because the terrain is so good. 

Further information:  Charlie @ 612 963 6892 or 8711 County Rd 7NW, Maple 
Lake, MN, 55358.  E mail replies may not be answered for up to a week.  

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