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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 07:24:02 -0500
From: "John B. Friedman" <johannes@draco.slip.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Discovery tips

Anyone one out there with a Discovery  who wants to offer driving impressions and  
problem tips? I have one on order. Thanks. Reply privately to  
johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu

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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 07:41:26 -0500
From: "John B. Friedman" <johannes@draco.slip.uiuc.edu>
Subject: PS on Discovery

Please reply only to johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu,  as  
johannes@draco.slip.uiuc.edu won't accept mail

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From: jpappa01@InterServ.Com
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:08:09 PDT
Subject: Re: 	The D90 SKINNY

On our way up to Owl's Head, but this just from the horse's mouth?

and I quote:

*THERE WILL BE NO 1996 DEFENDER 90* end quote... (USA model)

There will also be a limited number of D90 hardtop *STATION WAGON* models 
produced for fall introduction... Pricing and equipment details on this model 
not known at present...

Production of the NAS D90 will continue until the end of 1995. Again, no 1996 
production of NAS D90. After that? Who knows.

Cheerz
Jim - now completely mad... and loving it!
1967 SIIA 5.0 hybrid
1967 SIIA 109 5.0 hybrid
1968 F/C IIB diesel
1970 3500S
1990 Range Rover County
1993 D110

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:28:00 -0500
From: kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berliner)
Subject: 89 RR Update

Sorry I've been out of touch, busy... you know.  Well, as my previous post
shows, I'm back at work.  Remember the frozen caliper thread way back?

"hmmmmm <smoke> Oh yeah..."

Well, I bought some brake fluid to prepare for my project and noticed,
"Brake fluid is clear!"  Well, clear compared to what was running through
my lines.  I figure, no one has changed the brake fluid in the >100,000 mi
life of the RR.  Well, I heard that air in the lines could cause frozen
calipers (how? Idono.)  Well, I thought a simple brake fluid renewal was in
order.  I bled all the brake lines and what do you know... I got bilateral
foot drop from squatting so long.  Oh yeah, the brakes work fine now too.

The loose steering I believe is from thie drag link ball joint, I'll keep
you posted.

kgb
89 RR (But feels like 84 or even 83)

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:28:06 -0500
From: kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berliner)
Subject: Sightings

I can't get over how excited everyone seems to get when they find that LR
built more than just their own trucks.  As for sightings, since Michael
Jordan was seen tooling around in his RR, it seems everyone here in Chicago
is driving a Disco. (Mostly around the south-side, though)

kgb
89 RR

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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:38:36 -0500
From: kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berliner)
Subject: European brake binacle light

Ok, last one.  This is not for advice, but just a colorful story.

Since I bought the 89RR, the driver side window was slow going up.  All the
other windows worked fine and the affected window went down fine.  Well, as
I was fixing up the center console, I noticed that the grounding wire for
the window circuit emptied into one of the console's retaining bolts.  When
I finished fixing all the other problem (none related to, or anywhere near
the vacinity of the window circuit) I then noticed that the binnacle light
for the European Brakes was partially lit.  To get it to go out, I just
disconnect the ground for the window circuit.  But, then the windows don't
work.  Simple solution:  The binnacle light for european brakes is not used
in the North American model, so I pulled out the bulb.  Strange how that
happens huh?  The clincher...  Now the driver side window works great!  I
give up.

It could only happen in a RR!

kgb
89RR

In case anyone is wondering why an M.D. would be doing such extensive
repairs on his own car...  If I could afford to have it fixed I would, or
I'd buy a new one.  Problem is: as an Orthopaedic Surgery resident, I make
around minimum wage (I suspect less) and car mechanics make $65/hr working
on RR's.  My time is much less valuable.

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Subject: D 90 sales in Canada
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 95 09:25:11 -0500

Someone asked why the D90 wont be sold in Canada any more.

reason: not moving quicly enough of the lots with too litle profit 
margin. simple eh!

?

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Subject: plastic models of solihull products
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 95 09:13:24 -0500

There has been some chat of late on the availability of plastic kits of 
Land Rovers Defenders and Range Rovers.

In my basement where my office is I have a samll alliadins cave of model 
kits unbuilt. Sorry they aint for sale!

Most of the kits that peolpe have been refering to are long out of 
production and are like hens teeth these days.

The ESCI range of 1/24 scale 109s, three versions and range rovers 3 
versions I think, are really accurate and great fun. 

The pink panther kit from Tamiya along with the s2 ambulance were from 
the height of tamiya excellence. Unfortunatly they are no longer 
available.

The monogram 1/24 s3 88 had awfull tyres but was reasonable accurate. It 
was also possible to interchange parts between the 1/24 scale kits to 
make some variations.

The Tamiya 1/35 scale stuff was also interchangeable with the Italei s3 
109 civilian model to make a whol slew of mdoels.

As this is my background and how I became friends with LRO's Bob Morrison 
I have quite a pile of kits and accesories. i also have a pile of model 
making articles and how too's.

If you are looking for any of these discontinued kits , good luck.

What are they worth? How badly do you want them? I wouldnt part with mine 
for any moneyu' cos I cant replace them.

I welcome direct email on this subject, if you want copies of articles or 
a listing then e mail me direct.

Regards

Robin Craig

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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Subject: 101's
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 95 09:22:46 -0500

The two Toronto 101's came out of service with the Brits in Belize and 
then passed through a third party before being brought to canada.

--
Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Ottawa, Ont. |  Ottawa Valley Land Rovers

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From: BobandSueB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:17:14 -0400
Subject: Re:Static coolant loss

In a message dated 95-07-01 04:43:52 EDT, you write:

>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:27:52 +0059 (BST)
>From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk>
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>evaporation.
>I would think the head removal excessive.
Hi,
My two cents is,
What if the PO filled it and there was an air bubble as often happens with a
closed thermostat? 
Eventually the water settles and there is a low level.
Or you warm the engine and thermostat opens, then add water.
Check the sump for water below the oil (first out the drain) also the plugs
out to check cylinders.
Then if no bad indications, Maybe just had a bubble.

Bob Bernard

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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 13:14:30 -0700
From: jhong@haiku.com (John Hong)
Subject: diesels and brakes...

Hi All,

Re: the thread on diesels and braking - how feasible is the reverse - 
instead of vacuum how about positive pressure?  Don't the big trucks have a 
compressor and storage tank for brakes (don't they also fail from time to 
time - hence the "runaway" ramps on highways?)

If a reliable pressure system existed for rovers, then seeing as you have a 
pressure accumulator already, one would pretty much *have to* get an air 
activated diff lock or two! :)

I would assume that the compressor/tank sets sold for air locking diffs 
don't have the capacity/margin for braking applications?

regards,

John "oil burner wannabe" Hong

John Hong    Haiku Systems      Lotus Notes Business Partner
Consultant   jhong@haiku.com    408-249-8340

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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 19:00:47 -0400
From: Dave White <davew@landie.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Billing

I will be marshalling at Billing again this year - I will probably be at the
reception point Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

Anybody from the list please make yourself known... I may be able to set aside
a camping area for list subscribers. Anybody interested ???

Dave W.
'72 SWB SIII V8 auto R/R Chassis and running gear.
'89 Range Rover
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club

Dave W.
'72 SWB SIII
Yorkshire Rover Owners Club

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 18:54:20 -0500
From: kgb@uic.edu (Ken Berliner)
Subject: Loose steering thread

Well, I finally got the draglink balljoint replaced.  A vice and a pipe
wrench AND A WHOLE LOTTA MUSCLE finally got it.  I have Hayne's Owners shop
manual and the drag link and drop arm ball joints changed pretty much as
they describe.  The only addition I could make is: Substitute the words
"medium hammer" with "the biggest hammer you can lift."  I eventually used
a small sledge hammer (ie. a one-handed sledge hammer) I don't consider
that 'medium'.  Anyway, the steering is "show room new."  I am very
pleased.

Now to finish putting the inside back together.

Also, I have some brief input to make about the comparisons between parts
suppliers.  I used Atlantic B. and they always delivered what I ordered on
time for a competative price (maybe not the lowest, but close)  Brittish P.
on the other hand delivered 2 weeks after the promised date and only 2 of 3
items were right.  Now I have to deal with sending a part back (I almost
feel like just eating the cost and just not using them again)

kgb

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Date: 01 Jul 95 20:16:43 EDT
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ball joint removal

Ken..
 Removal of tight ball joints need not be a struggle, slide the clamp about a
foot from the end. place the end of the rodt on an anvil, heavy vice or piece of
heavy steel, with the ball joint overhanging and the rod flat on the surface,
then hammer the end of the rod  over the area where the screw thread is, rotate
the  rod and repeat the hammering all the way round. This will loosen the
threads.
 DO NOT APPLY HEAT, this can alter the metallurgical structure of the material
leading to premature failure.

  Regards    Bill Leacock  Limey in exile ( and in hiding on Tuesday ) 

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From: holland@catapent.com (Shannon Holland)
Subject: Finally did it!
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 17:52:59 -0700 (PDT)

Well, after months of talking about it and reading this list, I finally got
myself to buy a Defender 90. It looking far to new and in desperate need of
a decent coat of mud/dirt and perhaps a few scratches, I was wondering if
anyone had some good recomendations in regards to places to go offroading
in the San Francisco bay area?

Thanks in advance!

shannon

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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 95 19:03:17 MST
From: DEBROWN@SRP.GOV
Subject: Need help locating 4 speed for IIa

FROM:  David Brown                           Internet: debrown@srp.gov
       Computer Graphics Specialist * Mapping Services & Engr Graphics
       PAB219 (602)236-3544 -  Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486
SUBJECT: Need help locating 4 speed for IIa

Hello! This is more directed towards you series lovers located in the
UK. I have removed and disassembled the trans from my '71 Series IIa,
and have discovered that I need the following parts:

  2nd gear(s) (only need the Layshaft gear but comes in pair) $219
  1st gear (layshaft) $75
  Layshaft $145 (All the "little teeth" have been sheared off!)
    Total: $440 and that's without bearings or seals.

I figured that the best way (as well as least expensive) is to get a
rebuilt trans from the UK. In an old issue of LRO I found three places.

Would someone please be willing to inquire as to which will provide the
best rebuild, and at the best price?

  Land Part LTD. $ 305.50 (Pounds)
  Phone 0686 622177

  L.E.G.S. LTD $ 293.75 (Pounds)
  Phone 0691 653737

  AEW Paddock Motors Ltd. $188 (Pounds)
  Phone 0629 584499

These prices are around 1 year old, so they may not be current, and
include VAT, but not shipping. Could you find out cost with shipping to
the USA (Arizona)? Most importantly, though, is which one should I use?
There's a considerable difference in the price from Paddock, but I've
always believed that you get what you pay for, so the low price, while
attractive, makes me a bit nervous.

Please help! E-mail me at debrown@srp.gov and I'd be greatly
appreciative!!! I'm very anxious to get "red rover" rolling again! So
please let me know as soon as possible. I'd like to order first thing
Tuesday.

Thanks, Dave Brown.

#=======#                Never doubt that a small group of individuals
|__|__|__\___            can change the world... indeed, it's the only
| _|  |   |_ |}          thing that ever has.
"(_)""""""(_)"                                          -Margaret Mead

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From: UncleBrad@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 01:14:12 -0400
Subject: 109 for sale

 I have a friend with a '64 109 2-door with hatch. It runs pretty well, has
newly done seats, body pretty straight, but needs paint and a few odds &
ends. His name is Eric and his phone number is 510-827-1994 in California. He
was asking $5000, but I'll bet you could make him an offer.

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