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1 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 38 | ARC National Rally |
2 | Solihul@aol.com | 10 | temp guage woes |
3 | "Steve Methley" [sgm@hpl | 23 | Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? |
4 | Brian Neill Tiedemann [s | 38 | u-joint?? |
5 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 26 | Re: Drag link on an 88 |
6 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 12 | Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? |
7 | "Stefan R. Jacob" [10004 | 12 | Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? |
8 | Paul Sturm [0003891595@m | 19 | Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest |
9 | Custer wore an ARROW shi | 16 | Feedback needed..... |
10 | Pierce Reid [PREID@csi.c | 12 | Gaiters for late RR fit D90? |
11 | "Steve Methley" [sgm@hpl | 22 | Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? |
12 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 35 | Re: Feedback needed..... |
13 | Charlie Wright [cw117@mo | 23 | Re: Feedback needed..... |
14 | vortex@worldaccess.nl (B | 46 | Introduction |
15 | Mike Slade [SLCN3@cc.usu | 47 | OEM parts |
16 | berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff | 22 | Re: Questions questions? |
17 | Charlie Wright [cw117@mo | 18 | Re: OEM parts |
18 | "TeriAnn Wakeman" [twak | 95 | Re: OEM parts |
19 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 25 | Unleaded Heads |
20 | Easton Trevor [TEASTON@D | 18 | Buffing |
21 | Mike Rooth [M.J.Rooth@lu | 15 | Re: Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? |
22 | "John C. Sanders" [sande | 14 | 1967 Surplus NATO Land Rover for sale |
23 | Mike Dryfoos [mikedr@mic | 17 | RR heated windshields |
24 | Mike Dryfoos [mikedr@mic | 8 | [not specified] |
25 | growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.S | 38 | Re: converter |
26 | "Matthew Holding (AUS)" | 14 | Re: OIL PRESSURE V8 |
27 | vortex@worldaccess.nl (B | 35 | Re: Ser III Charge Light |
28 | "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa | 21 | Re: 1967 Surplus NATO Land Rover for sale |
29 | "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa | 17 | Re: Feedback needed..... |
30 | "Walter C. Swain" [wcswa | 24 | Re: Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? |
31 | growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.S | 18 | Re: Introduction |
32 | Alex Bronstein [alex@ado | 38 | Good-Bye from a Grateful Lurker |
33 | rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest. | 26 | Connection Gone - Goodbye |
34 | Brian Imdieke [74051.220 | 20 | Copy of: Land Rover & Mercedes Parts |
35 | "Russell G. Dushin" [dus | 20 | smack-psssst |
36 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 35 | Camel Trophy Daily Log |
37 | rover@pinn.net (Alexande | 24 | Bits 'n pieces |
38 | rziegler@sover.net (Rich | 40 | RR oil and tie rod ends |
Date: 02 Jun 95 04:09:53 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: ARC National Rally Back from the Rally and still alive... > who brought with them an ample supply of German Beer, cold to keep it in, and > some plum liquor (25% ABV), which was wicked sweet. .... wuzzat? (*hick*) >rock wall or major boulder). Word has it the only incident in the RTV was >a D90 driver who rear-ended a lightwieght while convoying to the next section. >Unfortunately, the military hitch took out the D90's radiator. Two more accidents to be reported, one at the Comp Safari (spectacular but not tragic), the other one on a public road (not-so-nice). First, a competition Range Rover rolled and landed on the drivers side - driver came crawling out through the windscreen that had popped out. The car lost a lot of petrol while lying on its side, so when the rig was finally back on its wheels and drove off (that's right!) the marshals disposed of the gasoline by setting fire to it and flaming it off. There was a rush of spectators towards the site when they saw black smoke billowing from the pit, and some were *disappointed* that it was *only* petrol being burnt and not a car on fire - go figure. The other incident, a Discovery coming from one of the quarries entered a public road at a T-intersection and either overlooked a (normal) car that was coming or didn't notice the yield-sign... anyway, the passenger car landed on its roof in a ditch, and when I drove past the still fresh scene of the accident the occupants of the passenger car, a couple and a child, where sitting wrapped in quilts by the roadside taken care of by the police. Not a nice ending to a Bank Holiday outing. Enough gore. All in all it was a very nice event, at least for those who escaped injuries and hangovers... Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 2 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Solihul@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 06:04:43 -0400 Subject: temp guage woes jssa writes in part, "temp guage reads in the low end of redxnot excessively hot". I hAd same prob with my S3 and found that a ground wire on the knurled nut securing the instrument to its place was loose. Tightened the nut and now its fine. Hope this helps. Cheers, John Dillingham, Woodstock, Ga ------------------------------[ <- Message 3 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:04:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? Me>..You'll get 20mpg from either set... Daryl>Tell us How. The best I've ever gotten from my stage 1 is 15-16. Well, there's nothing much to tell. Just RTFM was all I did. Regularly got 20mpg from a V8 Lightweight on SU's and a 2 door Rangey on Z-S's. There's no point tuning the carbs unless the ignition is absolutely perfect however. Once set the carbs dont drift out of tune-it's an old wives' tale - the ignition does drift however due to points wear and the way the vacuum advance operates. Ie check timing and dwell regulary. Dirty air filters will send the mpg plummeting downwards quite alarmingly. Clearly your mileage does vary! Cheers, Steve. ------------------------------[ <- Message 4 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Brian Neill Tiedemann <s914440@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU> Subject: u-joint?? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 20:13:15 +1000 (EST) Hi all, pardon my ignorance..... what's a U-joint bill wrote 2 days ago: "pinch bolts on U-joint prior to steering relay" My 77 RR has no Relay box as per land croozer 45, and i can't picture a U-joint anywhere!? Steering force is straight from drop arm via ball joint to tie rod, to rod end on LH swivel housing (RHD truk), then two more rod ends on the track rod transmit same to RH swivel housing. I have followed the discussion of wandering rangies with interest, as mine has similar steering play. I have good (new) bushings all round, and all rod ends seem OK (replaced some months ago). I had decided to blame the drop arm vertical movement and ball joint, as tightening the BIG nut makes a world of difference, and the only lubricant in the ball joint is Fe2O3. I bought a rebuild kit from LR a while ago but so far it remains a new kit... If there is some other possible source of my friendly randomness of steering, please suggest....?(Other than my Super Swampers that is!) thanks Leaks but I luv it... 77 RR Brian Tiedemann (s914440@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au) _______ / / | \___ \_ ^ ___ ^ _: >>><<< {*} {*} ..........................|||| ..................../ .............../ (Still 2WD *dammit*) ------------------------------[ <- Message 5 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 02 Jun 95 06:46:57 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Drag link on an 88 David Brown narrowly escapes death ... > My question is this: Is the drag link supposed to have "threads" to help > hold the tie rod end? Or is it supposed to be smooth? Mine is basically > smooth, (worn?) so I wondered if I need to replace this??? Yeah, not an uncommon problem - and a very dangerous one. What happens is this: The tie rod/track rod/drag link (pick your choice) has opposite threads on either end, meaning that one tie rod end/ball joint/<ad naus.> is right-threaded, while the other must be left-threaded. In the life of every Land Rover comes the moment when, at the hands of an (obviously incompetent) PO, the rod ends are being replaced, and eiter they are rusted solid in the rod and the entire thread is stripped out by the forcible removal, or the PO gets two rod ends of a kind (maybe 2nd hand) and at least one of the ends gets cross-threaded when he bungs the thing back in. This process may repeat it self a couple of times with subsequent POs, and the result is what you got on your 88". DON'T MOVE YOUR CAR until you got a NEW tie rod in there!! Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 6 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 12:17:40 BST Er,is Daryll's Stage One lower geared than a Range Rover, though,Steve? And heavier than your Lightweight. Random thoughts........ Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 7 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 02 Jun 95 07:16:05 EDT From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com> Subject: Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? I just picked up a news flash on dpa-online that apparently a volcano has erupted violently close to Guatemala City. Would/could this have any consequences for the Camel Trophy that just about now should be passing through Guatemala? Stefan <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043,2400@CompuServe.com> ------------------------------[ <- Message 8 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 06:44 EST From: Paul Sturm <0003891595@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest -- [ From: Paul Sturm * EMC.Ver #2.05 ] -- You can perhaps help me unsubscribe to LRO Daily Digest. I've been sending regular unsubscribe messages as per the instructions for a couple of weeks-- but without success even though I get a message confirmation. The problem could be that I'm receiving the material via a forward command from another mailbox. The address there is psturm@ilhawaii.net. If you could strike my name (regardless of the address), I'd appreciate it. I am the happy owner of a 1962 Series II. But at the moment I'm on the road, and receiving long e-mail is very expensive. Regards. ------------------------------[ <- Message 9 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 08:24:27 -0500 (EST) From: Custer wore an ARROW shirt <RMOILE@unca.edu> Subject: Feedback needed..... I am thinking about purchasing a 1968 SIIa. The vehicle will be my primary means of transportation, so I need something fairly dependable. I drive roughly 7 miles per day, 11,000 miles per year. Would the SIIa be a good idea? I saw some newer (mid 80's) Rovers that I liked, but none of them caught my eye like the SIIa did. Any feedback would be welcome. Thank you (in advance)! rick miale unc asheville ------------------------------[ <- Message 10 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 02 Jun 95 08:56:29 EDT From: Pierce Reid <PREID@csi.compuserve.com> Subject: Gaiters for late RR fit D90? Can anyone tell me if a set of gaiters for a newer Range Rover will fit a D90? One of our fellow list members has a set available that I would like to purchase for my D90, but I need to know if they will fit. TIA and cheers, R. Pierce Reid ------------------------------[ <- Message 11 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Steve Methley" <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:17:37 +0100 Subject: Re: Stromberg to SU Conz on V8?? Mike: >Er,is Daryll's Stage One lower geared than a Range Rover, >though,Steve? And heavier than your Lightweight. >Random thoughts........ Er, sure Mike. There's lots of other factors too. I drove/drive both my vehicles at 80mph down the M4 and was convinced that at that speed nothing much bar wind resistance made much difference. The RR is stock whilst the Lightweight (yes they are _heavier_ than a civvy SWB) was on 750 SATs with RR diffs. Lots of stop-start stuff and cold running is going to affect things too, also the auto box RR's are worse on mpg, 15 ish.....it goes on...Wonder if I'm heavier than Daryll? -- Best Regards, Steve. ------------------------------[ <- Message 12 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Feedback needed..... Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:15:24 BST FWIW,my daily mileage is around fifteen.I've got a '70 11A SWB 2.25 diesel,which nominally,at any rate,is *supposed* to be less reliable than the 2.25 petrol. Its the only vehicle I own. During the eight years I've had it,the reliability factor has been good,and it wasnt in particularly good nick when I got it.A dropped valve about a year into ownership put it off the raod for a good while, but most of the good while was my own fault for dithering about trying to find a replacement engine, when all it needed was the current engine repairing. Most of the problems have been "engine orientated", and would not have occured with the petrol,or rather if they had,would not have had the same effect. Running gear,gearbox etc are IMO better than the S111, the gearbox particularly is much stronger,but with the disadvantage(if you can call it that)that double declutching is necessary in bottom and second.You will have the usual problems associated with wiring nearly thirty years old, and god knows how many bodge jobs done on it in that time. Having said all that,Americans seem to have a wierd skill at busting half shafts,but even that isnt instantly fatal, necessarily,since if you lose power to the back axle,four wheel drive will usually see you home over the distances you mention. I'd say go for it.I've certainly not regretted the decision. Cheers Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 13 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 15:07:09 +0059 (BST) From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Feedback needed..... On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Custer wore an ARROW shirt wrote: > I am thinking about purchasing a 1968 SIIa. The vehicle will be my primary > means of transportation, so I need something fairly dependable. I drive roughly > 7 miles per day, 11,000 miles per year. What planet do you live on? We have 365.25 days in a year here on earth ;-) > Would the SIIa be a good idea? I saw some newer (mid 80's) Rovers that I liked, > but none of them caught my eye like the SIIa did. They're great for a daily driver, if you don't need _dependable_ transport. As they say, it will always get you home, but you may not always get out again straight away... It's usually Uncle Joe. (BTW I found an alternator bracket...) Charlie ------------------------------[ <- Message 14 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:42:42 +0200 From: vortex@worldaccess.nl (Bert Palte) Subject: Introduction Hi, you all out there, I've been subscribed to this list for about one month now. Since I am new to Internet, I have thought it sensible to, for some time, be only reading to see what is going on here. Now, I would like to introduce myself before adding any comments of my own to this list. My name is Bert, I'm the proud owner of a 1964 Series IIa 88 LandRover (ex-British-Forces-Germany, in a specially modified, military version, *not* an air transportable, so called cutaway). I am pleased to see that there are so many Series owners on this list. I wonder if you all are actually *driving* these old vehicles or primarily keeping them for fun, rather like myself, driving my LR only occasionally. I'm more into classic cars than into driving through the mud. (Here in Holland, Europe, where the salty sea air makes everything on wheels rust very quickly, almost anything older than 15 years is considered a classic; if you happen to live in Turkey or in Cuba, you would probably consider such cars to be only just out of warranty ;-) ). So, I like classics, and it is great fun driving my 1964 LandRover, in spite of the obvious arguments against it ( e.g. low cruising speed, high noise level, always the suspension if you are going to make it to your destination before another, probably electrical, malfuction will rise its ugly little head....) Hope to meet you on the list! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Bert Palte Roggeveld 25 3764 ZB Soest The Netherlands Home Phone # 02155 23949 E-mail: < vortex@worldaccess.nl > ------------------------------[ <- Message 15 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 1995 08:47:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Mike Slade <SLCN3@cc.usu.edu> Subject: OEM parts I read your post about the different parts suppliers with interest as I did just recieve yesterday a package from British Pacific. I had ordered one U-joint and had specifically asked if these were 'genuine' parts, I was assured that they were and patiently waited for my order. When it arrived I had recieved TWO U-joints, not one like I had ordered, and they were from a company called Hardy Spicer. I called and he gave me the OEM parts schpiel and I guess I was satisfied with his line, but was a bit irked that they had sent and charged me for two of them. I asked why they sent two and he replied that 'when you do one U-joint you usually do the other', which is fine, but I wish that I would have been given that advice over the phone BEFORE recieving the parts. To their credit however, they send me the latest copy of LRO without charging me anything for it. So, what's the scoop on OEM parts? I guess I'll wait until the official word is in before ordering from them again. They seemed a bit slimey they way they dealt with me about the U-joints. Am I just being anal? Also, I have a Kodiak heater in my 66 IIa, and I too was baffled by the lack of heat until one fateful day I figured out what the mystery knob was for. Apparetnly there is a butterfly valve in the hose from the intake to the fan that the top knob closes. With this closed there is not enough air blown through the unit to heat. I run mine with the top knob (valve) open, the blower on HIGH and the water control valve all the way out. Here in N. Utah the winter was also quite mild, but when I figured out how that thing worked it made for much more pleasant winter driving. My next project will be to mount a towing hitch (ball type) to my rear cross member as I am just about to pick up an '88 from a junk yard south of here on a flatbed. Any suggestions? I haven't even started to look at the different options. Thanks everyone, Michael -My vehicle WAS tested on animals- ------------------------------[ <- Message 16 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:58:59 -0400 From: berg@acf2.NYU.EDU (Jeff Berg) Subject: Re: Questions questions? >>What size/type tires are those? Any clearance problems? I've confirmed that the tires on my IIa 88 are Cooper Discoverer Radial CTD LT235/85R16 m/s Regards JAB == == Jeffrey A. Berg Interactive Telecommunications Program Technical Administrator New York University berg@acf2.nyu.edu ================= Look what happens when you love someone, and they don't love you. --Warren Zevon, The Heartache == == ------------------------------[ <- Message 17 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:17:38 +0059 (BST) From: Charlie Wright <cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> Subject: Re: OEM parts Mike, I think perhaps you've discovered why U-joints are also called "Hardy Spicer's" or "Hardy-Spicer Joints". I think you'll find they _are_ OEM. So yea, I guess that would qualify as anal ;-) Charlie C. R. Wright Dept. of Genetics +44 (0)1223 333970 telephone Univ. of Cambridge +44 (0)1223 333992 telefax Downing Street, Cambs. cw117@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk CB2 3EH, England ------------------------------[ <- Message 18 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:23:39 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" <twakeman@apple.com> Subject: Re: OEM parts In message <199506021449.JAA10299@butler.uk.stratus.com> Mike Slade writes: ; I read your post about the different parts suppliers with interest as I did ; just recieve yesterday a package from British Pacific. ; ; I had ordered one U-joint and had specifically asked if these were 'genuine' ; parts, I was assured that they were and patiently waited for my order. ; ; When it arrived I had recieved TWO U-joints, not one like I had ordered, and ; they were from a company called Hardy Spicer. I would not be happy in your spot. If they promised you parts in a container labeled guenuine Land Rover parts you should have received it as promised. They should have been able to tell you if it was labeled Land Rover, OEM or third party. I don't hold for deception nor for a company so disorganized that they don't know what they have in stock. I would also NOT be happy if I recieved two of something if I ordered one just because the person packing the box thought you didn't know what you were ordering. He didn't know if you already had one on hand, had just made an order with another company who only had one in stock so you already had one coming, or if you damaged one 'U' joint and the other was still in like new condition. I agree they should have recomended that you change out both ends of a shaft, but the decision should be yours. . So, what's the scoop on OEM parts? I guess I'll wait until the official word ; is in before ordering from them again. Spicer is THE 'U' joint company. They are OEM for just about every car manufacturer. So don't worry about going wrong with Spicer 'U' joints. Now about OEM vs Genuine parts. This is an issue largely generated by Rovers North to justify the higher prices they charge. When you design complicated hardware you need to be aware of parts cost. Its WAY cheaper to specify a part out of a parts book than to specify a part that does not exist. The British manufacturers are well aware of this. Just look at the TR3 front turn signals on mid sixties Land Rovers, along with the TR3 fuse box, the Morgan license plate lights, the Big Healey rear lights, the Land Rover master clutch cylinder for the early cars are the same as the TR3's. The British not only shared OEM parts but when possible whole assemblies. Rovers North would like to tell you that Rover may have ordered a different metal alloy form Gurling for their cylinders. That would probably more than triple the price of the cylinders, assuming Gurling would even do it. Even most custom for Land Rover parts were made by a second OEM company. As long as the original company makes the part to the spec that Rover chose crom the manucafturer's catalogue, that part is identical to one that comes in a Land Rover labeled box. In several past jobs I was a Quality manager and responsible for internal audits and understanding the company's design and manufacturing processes. Most specs that a purchasing type orders from are copied word for word from a different company's parts catalogue. Its a matter of economics. Rover will not specify a custom part if an off the shelf part will work. If the box says Gurling, Lockheed (You can tell I'm working on brakes these days),National, Spicer, Timken, Lucas or other big name brands, I'm confident that the contents of the box are identical to the contents of a box labeled genuine Land Rover parts. Since the same company makes the part to the same spec and ether puts it in their own box or a genuine Land Rover Part box before it leaves the OEM factory doesn't make a difference to me. Mind you, I do worry about some third party parts. ; They seemed a bit slimey they way ; they dealt with me about the U-joints. Am I just being anal? I agree, British Pacific was more than a bit slimy on your order. I tend to go with them for domestic ordering because they seem to be consistantly cheaper than Rovers North and Atlantic British and I have only received OEM or Genuine Land Rover labeled parts from them. I'm confident of the highest quality available parts at the best US price from them. However, there are at least two people on the phone line and though they both sound simular and are friendly, at least one of them doesn't seem to know a whole lot about Land Rovers. They seem to be helpful but nowhere near as knowledgable as Rovers North's phone people. I don't think that were trying to cause you problems by sending you two "U" joints. But that was not their decision to make. I guess if I knew what I wanted I would go with British Pacific for US orders and if I was unsure of what I wanted or needed some advice, I would go to Rovers' North and assume the extra price is the cost of getting information from a knowledgable person. But I would definatly let British Pacific know exactly what I thought of them changing your order without your specific authorization. TeriAnn Wakeman .sig closed for remodeling twakeman@apple.com ------------------------------[ <- Message 19 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Unleaded Heads Date: Mon, 29 May 95 10:31:00 DST One of the methods to convert the head to unleaded is to install hardened valve seats. The theory is that tetraethyl lead provides a lubricant which protects the valve seats and since this is not present in unleaded the seats will wear and the valves eat into the head. In reality this is only a problem in some engines which run with hot exhaust valves. IMHO Unless you continually drive your Landie at high speeds and loads it should not be necessary to do any conversion to the head. Keep a check on your exhaust valve clearances and if they start to close up rapidly then change your driving habits or modify the head. Regarding Tony Yates notes on additives and toxic effects. Unfortunately we can't buy leaded any more in Canada or USA, some more information on the toxic emissions without a catalitic converter would be very interesting. I'm sure we are all using unleaded with happy ignorance in our lawnmowers and other non catalyst equipped vehicles and machinery. Are we commiting suicide unaware? Is this why my eyes smart all the time? Knowledgeable chemists please help. Perhaps we can become envirogeeks with our own pet peeve. Trevor "Weepy" Easton ------------------------------[ <- Message 20 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA> Subject: Buffing Date: Mon, 29 May 95 10:16:00 DST Buffing refers to the coming together of railway wagons and locomotives for this purpose they are fitted with buffers. In north america this is refered to as draft gear. Since most Series Land Rovers are already fitted with several drafts, one would be lead to believe that buffing is a natural process and any additional buffing would be unnecessary. All that is required is to move the vehicle at a suitable speed, relative to the surrounding air, either under its own power or by placing it in a windy location. For optimum buffing (Draft, draught) a maximum air temperature of -20 degrees is recommended. Trevor Easton from the frozen north and Miss Golightly warm and snug with a Kodiak ------------------------------[ <- Message 21 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:24:21 BST > To change subscription write to: Majordomo@Land-Rover.Team.Net [ truncated by lro-digester (was 15 lines)] > Stefan > <Stefan R. Jacob, 100043,2400@CompuServe.com> Dont know about consequences...but hot lava could have some effect on tyre life,I would have thought. Mike Rooth ------------------------------[ <- Message 22 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "John C. Sanders" <sanders@pipeline.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 13:10:48 -0400 Subject: 1967 Surplus NATO Land Rover for sale My boss wants to sell his 1967 NATO surplus land rover. Although it's 25 years old it runs fine and has only 10,000 miles on the clock. Camouflage in color. He's used it around his property as a work vehicle. It's now located in Maine. Any interest? Thanks John ------------------------------[ <- Message 23 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: Mike Dryfoos <mikedr@microsoft.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:27:07 TZ Subject: RR heated windshields I've found the heated windshield on my '92 RR very useful when out in the mountains in the snow. Come back from a day out skiing and fire up the windshield heater to help clear off any ice and snow that has adhered to the surface. It was genuinely invaluable one day when crossing over the mountains in a serious blizzard. Everyone else had to pull over every 10 minutes to scrap off their windshields. I don't use the heated windshield for ordinary defrosting. I don't think it is really intended for that, and I get satisfactory results with the fan, anyway. So I'd say if you don't find yourself out in the snow, it probably isn't worth the extra money. ------------------------------[ <- Message 24 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
>From: Sanna@aol.com >Well, this gets back to my other question. The PO of my RR replaced the >heated windsheild with a standard one. My windsheild is now cracked & could >be replaced. Is it worth the extra $300 for the heated screen? Does it work >that well? The car's all wired for it. - Tony ------------------------------[ <- Message 25 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:41:06 -0700 From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Subject: Re: converter > and most folks leave you alone...it ain't gunna kill ya to have a > converter on the 2.25...and having one will prevent the Greenies from I will put on a Toyota windshield decal before a catalytic converter. Off -road vehicles with these are known to start fires because they get so hot. and You are just trading one form of pollution for another (sulfuric acid). It is a known fact (but never mentioned by the Greenies) that 60% of auto air pollution is caused by 10% of the vehicles... older, poorly maintained junkers. Most of the rest is caused by unregulated diesels. Do not take this to mean that I don't care about the environment. I believe that I am more of an environmentalist than most people who call themselves "Green." I have been picking up others trash around campsites and treading lightly, since I was five. I just know "junk science" when I see it. R, bg ---The BIG BANG will recycle everything. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- "The Green dweebs want a world where individuals don't count for much, where all the important decisions -- such as whether to shift the Viper into fifth -- are made in Washington. They want a world controlled by the political process. That's because the shrub cuddlers are, as individuals, so insignificant. They're losers, the three-bong-hit saviors of the earth, lava lamp Luddites, global warming dolts, ozone boneheads, peace creeps, tofu twinks, Birkenstock buttinskis, and bed-wetting vegetarian bicyclists who bother whales on weekends. They have no money, sense, or skills. But they can make their mark on politics because the whole idea of politics is to achieve power without possessing merit." -- P.J. O'Rourke -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- ------------------------------[ <- Message 26 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 02 Jun 95 13:43:52 EDT From: "Matthew Holding (AUS)" <100036.2103@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: OIL PRESSURE V8 Thanks Steve, Darryl, Charlie... I am fitting a guage to see exactly what the pressure is doing - this 2wd Rover only has a red light to tell you when it blows up :-) Good advice Charlie. I have already gotten sick of paying $14 a week for air filters so I have a great under bonnet anti rust system. Have tried thick oil - 25-50 / 50 / 60 - all have had no effect. Still runs really well. I'll just have to fix that Landy with the sore piston. Matt. ------------------------------[ <- Message 27 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 20:06:42 +0200 From: vortex@worldaccess.nl (Bert Palte) Subject: Re: Ser III Charge Light On May 29th, Steve Rochna wrote: > After a nice holiday drive I made a quick stop at a local >store and noticed that after startup the charge light stayed on. ... >Very shortly thereafter the charge light went out. I killed the engine and >restarted it multiple times and all seems well. >Normally on startup I have to rev the engine above normal idle to get the charge >light out then it stays out. Is this normal? Has anybody any insight as to >what my charge light problem is (was)? Seems pretty straightforward to me. I have had the same problem, with different cars. The point is that the brushes in your dynamo/generator or alternator will either stick in their guides or they will have worn. You can repair it yourself if you like to. (If it is a dynamo, you will need a large soldering iron, though). A new set of brushes will probably not cost you much more than about $ 10 or so. Or you can have it done professionally. At that time, if they do it properly, the workshop will also renew the bearings of the dynamo or alternator. Contrary to popular belief, alternators *do* have brushes ! Bert Palte ------------------------------[ <- Message 28 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov> Subject: Re: 1967 Surplus NATO Land Rover for sale Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> John C. Sanders writes: > My boss wants to sell his 1967 NATO surplus land rover. Although it's 25 > years old it runs fine and has only 10,000 miles on the clock. Camouflage > in color. He's used it around his property as a work vehicle. It's now > located in Maine. Any interest? I'm sure there is interest in such a vehicle. Can you supply more info on model (88/109), lhd vs rhd, top, and so on? Little things, like asking price and body condition, would also be of interest. Thanks, Walter Swain 1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol Davis, CA ------------------------------[ <- Message 29 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov> Subject: Re: Feedback needed..... Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:25:42 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> rick miale, Custer wore an ARROW shirt writes: > I am thinking about purchasing a 1968 SIIa. The vehicle will be my primary [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)] > but none of them caught my eye like the SIIa did. > Any feedback would be welcome. Thank you (in advance)! Assuming it's reliable, it'd be great. But so would a bicycle, except maybe in the rain. Walter Swain 1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol Davis, CA ------------------------------[ <- Message 30 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@s101dcascr.wr.usgs.gov> Subject: Re: Volcano erupts in Guatemala/Trophy? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:31:55 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> Stefan R. Jacob writes: > I just picked up a news flash on dpa-online that apparently a volcano [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > any consequences for the Camel Trophy that just about now should be > passing through Guatemala? Hi Stefan, What is dpa-online, and how do I access it? In response you your question, fine volcanic ash can play absolute havoc with air filters and engines. During the 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens in the Pacific Northwest of the US filters clogged immediately and those who pulled them off wore out their engines in just a 200-300 km. The recommended solution: pantyhose. Walter Swain 1967 IIA 109 Safari SW, petrol Davis, CA ------------------------------[ <- Message 31 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:37:27 -0700 From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Subject: Re: Introduction > My name is Bert, I'm the proud owner of a 1964 Series IIa 88 LandRover > I wonder if you all are actually *driving* these old vehicles or [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)] > ( e.g. low cruising speed, high noise level, > Bert Palte I drive my '64 88" to work everyday... 80 miles (128K) round trip, here in SF, California. Through Sierra blizzards in the winter, then across the Oregon-Nevada-Utah desert every summer. No sweat. What? cound'nt hear you. Regards, Bill G. ------------------------------[ <- Message 32 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:13:54 PDT From: Alex Bronstein <alex@adoc.xerox.com> Subject: Good-Bye from a Grateful Lurker Folks, I just wanted to let you all know, before I ask Majordomo to cut me off that you are a very Healthy & Friendly & Pleasant bunch, and I've enjoyed your company very much. A year ago, as my wife and I investigated the "Family-mobile", the short list came down to Range-Rovers (incl. Discos) or Volvo station wagons. (Some of you may be horrified to read that, don't worry, the only real intersection is that both vehicles provide a lot of very well engineered heavy steel around your loved ones, thereby providing safety, functionality and long-term value.) At that time I joined this list to learn more, and maybe buy a used RR/LR if a good deal came up. About 6 months ago, budget & mortgage realities set in, and we invested about 5 K$ in a 10 year old Volvo 240 wagon. The 50 $K RR dream was pushed back to 10 or 20 years in the future. Meanwhile, I stayed on the list because on days when life would get too stressful (and there a few like that when you work in Silicon Valley, and have a 2 year old and a newborn at home), I knew I could always dive in my stash of unread lro-mail, and find a stream of positive attitude, healthy realism, and good humor. But it's time for me now to pick a hobby with which I can do more than daydream and read about. So, thank you all for your cyberspace hospitality! May you all be blessed with long-running vehicles which will only break in ways that you can fix with a screwdriver, a string, and a coin! Alex Bronstein Palo Alto, CA, USA ------------------------------[ <- Message 33 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:15:48 MDT From: rhcaldw@nma.mnet.uswest.com ( ROY CALDWELL ) Subject: Connection Gone - Goodbye unsubscribe Lost my job and worst they won't let me keep an internet connection. They seem to think I should be working for them to get e-mail. Really rude people. New things on the horizon - places to go, people to see and things to do. I have enjoyed the list and everybody on it. I have met and talked with many good people. As soon as my sys gets put in a home and the local access is connected I will be off the list for about two months. Hope to see and hear from evrybody soon. Roy H. Caldwell 1530 Laurel St. Helena, MT. 59601 USA (406) 442-1804 Roy - Rovers in the Rockies ------------------------------[ <- Message 34 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: 02 Jun 95 16:20:40 EDT From: Brian Imdieke <74051.2206@compuserve.com> Subject: Copy of: Land Rover & Mercedes Parts Someone here asked about getting Mercedes parts at a discount though mail order......I forget who. But, anyway these are the ones that I have had good luck with...... Caliber Motors (dealer) Anaheim Hills, CA 1-800-252-6877 Autohaus (aftermarket) San Antonio, Texas 1-800-226-8159 By the way, anyone interested in joining the Mercedes Benz club of America, call 1-800-637-2360. $35.00 annual. ------------------------------[ <- Message 35 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com> Subject: smack-psssst Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 18:55:44 EDT Bill C. fills us in: >Word has it the only incident in the RTV was >a D90 driver who rear-ended a lightwieght while convoying to the next section. >Unfortunately, the military hitch took out the D90's radiator. Hmmmmm. Never would'a happened had he had his radiator mounted deep within the recesses of his breakfast. Might'a crushed the 6-pack, though. rd/nige ------------------------------[ <- Message 36 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 22:53:47 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Camel Trophy Daily Log Thursday, June 1st - There is no road into the village of Izabal, a small group of thatched huts on the western edge of the lake of the same name. But one other vehicle has ever visited the settlement - a Land Rover on last year's recce. It took the Camel trophy convoy two days to crawl across the mountainous 'spanish road', a route built by Cortez in 1540. "You are the first people to make the journey in such numbers since Cortez," said Izabal's mayor Andres Solis. "We had heard that you were coming but we were not sure you would make it. No other car has been through that road. Not even the cowboys use it, it is so bad. We don't get many visitors here. Every time we travel, we go by boat." The villagers offered use of their lakeside beach for a camp. As none had washed in days, some teams jumped into the lake fully dressed. However, following in the footsteps of Cortez was not easy: the Spanish team seriously damaged their transmission on a boulder just before the village. This was to be the last formal group camp until Belize next week. As with last weekend's exercise, the convoy will split into groups of three or four teams each: they have been given the name of a village on the Guatamala/Belize border and have two days to reach it. Most of the roads are not marked on the map and have not been maintained in years. *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 37 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 23:37:14 -0500 From: rover@pinn.net (Alexander P. Grice) Subject: Bits 'n pieces WRT several threads...a nifty trick the next time you replace an axle is to take the end of a file and scratch a longitudinal line down its length. The next time you have the shaft out and find the line no longer straight, you know that damage has been done and you should consider replacing it. Wipers. For the late IIa/III units (single motor/dual speed), try an Anco AN-10 replacement arm. The arm length is adjustable and there is this shaft adapter - a little drum-shaped thing that is held in place by two Allen screws. The central diameter needs to be enlarged a proverbial gnat's eyelash, but it's a quick, *inexpensive* fix. Cheers. *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"----* | A. P. (Sandy) Grice | | Rover Owners' Association of Virginia | | 1633 Melrose Parkway, Norfolk, VA 23508-1730 | | E-mail: rover@pinn.net Phone: 804-622-7054 (Day) | | 804-423-4898 (Evenings) FAX: 804-622-7056 | *-----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------[ <- Message 38 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 03:30:57 -0400 From: rziegler@sover.net (Richard Ziegler) Subject: RR oil and tie rod ends Matthew Holding's '70 RR V8 engine is blowing oil into the breather system. One possibility may be poor ring sealing on the pistons. Even though compression readings are good they may be good because of the oil getting past the rings (blow-by). (Don't forget that you do a wet compression test to check for valve leakage by introducing oil through the sparkplug hole to seal up the rings.) The best method to check for piston ring sealing is to do a leakdown test. Compressed air is run through a gauge and into the sparkplug hole of each cylinder. The reading on the gauge is noted for each cylinder and an audio check is made for air escaping at the oil fill, radiator, carb, and tailpipe. For each cylinder checked the valves have to be shut for that cylinder. The sound of air escaping from the oil fill would indicate piston ring problems, from carb it would be intake valve, from tailpipe it would be exhaust valve, and bubbles in the radiator coolant would be headgasket. Oil pressure is a function of the oil pump, pressure relief valves, bearings, and the general integrity of the high pressure side of the oil system. Thus, until you run low on oil you will show good oil pressure readings if the hi pressure side is ok. The piston rings are on the low (no) pressure side of the system and thus problems here would not show up on the gauge until aforementioned lack of oil. _________ Dave Brown has a tie rod end that dropped out of his tie rod and asked if the rod should be threaded. The quick answer is yes and you should replace the bad threaded rod for your safety. Terminology: Tie rod (steering track rod) connects the two front wheels together; drag-link is the rod connecting one of the wheels to the steering relay (unit that goes through the front chassis cross member), and longitudinal rod is the rod connecting the steering relay to the steering box. Tie rod ends are at each end of each of the above rods and on each rod one end is right hand threaded while the other end is left hand threaded. When replacing the tie rod ends in the track rod don't forget to set the toe-in of the front wheels. I use 1/16" toe -in. Happy Rovering, Rich Ziegler, L/R mechanic '63 88 pet. (in pieces) '74 88 SIII HT pet. daily driver ------------------------------[ <- Message 39 -> end | Table of Contents | <- Digest 950603 -> Archive Index | <- Browser -> ]
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