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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:55:15 -0500
From: Jimmy Patrick <jimmyp@cksp.demon.co.uk>
Subject: 2 year storage

Peter Dee said:
>storing my great 95 Discovery for 2 yrs.

Call Jimmy Patrick. He will take good care of it for you. Storage is not an
option... That kind of vehicle needs to be driven on a daily basis. Good
doses of California dirt and plenty of sunshine will keep the Discovery in
fine shape. Send the company's money to him also.

cheers,

a friend with your interests in mind, uh okay, it's me, I admit it,

jimmy

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: D90 w/BMW engine?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:58:32 UNDEFINED

/Perhaps someone could help clear this up....I heard a rumor that the
/US D90's may be switching to a BMW V8. Anyone have any info on this?
/ (size, model year, etc...)
/
/I'm considering buying a '95 D90, but if an engine change is forthcoming
/I'd hold off for a bit.

I'd not hold off for the BMW V8 instead of the Rover V8. In fact, faced 
with this possibility, I'd buy quick to avoid being palmed off with the BMW. 

Rover make some crap engines, but teh V8 is about the best they've ever done - 
quite a few have gone 3 times round the clock with a little normal care. I'd 
have had one if I could afford to keep it in drink.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: S1
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 12:03:21 GMT

Do we have anyone on the list who has an 80"?  I'm considering getting
one.  I'd appreciate a thumbnail sketch of ownership experience.

Best Regards,
Steve.  ex V8 Lightweight, currently '79RR.

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Date:          Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:36:40 BST
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 23:06:43 +1100
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: taper roller transfer cases

The army Perenties have the 4spd Range Rover gearbox and transfer case.
The transfer case has roller bearings on the intermediate shaft
instead of the usual needle roller bearings and thrust washers.
The 3 pairs of bearings (one pair for each cog) seem to be shimmed into place.
I seem to recall the 6x6 has the axles strengthened with sleeves pressed inside
and the half shafts may be treated in some exotic way for strength too.

Ritters do a more interesting roller bearing conversion ($$$) where
the 3 bearing pairs are separately preloaded with spacers and a bolt
through (!) the intermediate shaft - if one pair wears a bit it
does not affect the others.
(Ritters only recommend this for big-engine conversions etc.)

btw: The army run Castrol FMX in the Perentie transfer case instead of
GTX according to one article - probably to try to protect the centre diff
against novices forgetting to lock it in slippery conditions ?
[S1-S3 use gear oil of course.]

I don't know of any transfer case conversion for S1-S3.

Lloyd

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 07:06:37 EST
From: "Lapa, Hank" <hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com>
Subject: Re: engine transplants

     
John

I know some years back a set of engine mounts to drop a Ford powerplant into a 
Series L-R was available in the Atlantic British catalog (NY).  I assume that 
means more than a couple of people have gone that way.  

Hank Lapa
1960 Series II 109
> Subject: engine transplants
> Author:  jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John Hess) at Zeus

	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
>      cylinder) transplanted into rovers?   It seems that chevy's are the 
>      common insert here in the states

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From: Pete Young <pyoung@srd.bt.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 13:14:08 GMT
Subject: Re: S1

>Do we have anyone on the list who has an 80"?  I'm considering getting
>one.  I'd appreciate a thumbnail sketch of ownership experience.

Try asking Pierre Ketteridge, if you haven't frightened him away!

I have a magazine article which contains a picture of Pierre standing
next to his 80" which I will scan and post if there are enough requests
from people without dartboards!

Pete

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From: Steve Methley <sgm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: S1
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 13:28:09 GMT

>Do we have anyone on the list who has an 80"?  I'm considering getting
>one.  I'd appreciate a thumbnail sketch of ownership experience.
  Try asking Pierre Ketteridge, if you haven't frightened him away!

Pierre won't be afraid, he's from Barnsley - Go for it Pierre!

  I have a magazine article which contains a picture of Pierre standing
  next to his 80" which I will scan and post if there are enough requests

Yup, post it - which magazine is it?

Steve.

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Date: 22 Mar 95 08:31:45 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Not LR specific; Tire Beading

> re-setting the bead of a tire by using lighter fluid and flame. Wouldn't do
> it. Explosion could result. And some of the aerosol inflators (i.e. roadside

Of course it'll explode, and that's what it's meant to do. Just have to get
the fuel-air-ratio right (comes with experience) so the tire stops at the
bead and doesn't rip and fly into orbit...  Matter of lifestyle - Icelanders
even drink lighter fluid and set fire to it, the resulting explosion wakes
them up and clears their mind after the long dark winter... ;-)

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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Date: 22 Mar 95 08:32:18 EST
From: "Stefan R. Jacob" <100043.2400@compuserve.com>
Subject: RR shooting it out...

My RR almost shot me! And I don't even know whatfor.

Remember my cludgy re-built 3.5 Efi? Last time it was into cavitation of
sorts. Well, yesterday after work I get in and start it up, it sputters a bit
and dies. I say some unkind words (ah, that was it!) because I'm already late
for going shopping, turn the ignition again, and ... !*BLAM*@#! the beast
misfires with an incredible deafening detonation, virtually causing the hood 
to buckle, and dies off. I feel cold sweat forming on my forehead and start 
having visions of bundles of money bills wirling up into the air and being 
blown away by the wind. After a while I timidly turn the ignition key again,
first checking if Lucas is still alive - everything still seemed to work -,
then cranking it over again. The engine briefly fired up, but quickly 
sputtered and died. This is it, I guessed. Got out and opened the hood with
trembling fingers, shone the Maglight into the engine bay (I was in a dimly
lit garage) and searched for damage. My first suspicion circled around air
intake, plenum chamber and exaust manifolds. I recalled the experience of
another RR owner I know who thought he was doing his Efi a favour by spraying
engine starter into the air intake when he had problems getting the engine to
run. The ensueing conflagration ripped the air flow meter apart and set him
back $ 1K. Well, the air flow meter housing seemed intact, and the flap
inside didn't show any damage... plenum chamber was still tight and didn't
show any cracks or holes... checked if any injectors or plugs had been blown
out, but it was all there, likewise exhaust manifolds and downpipes. Only now
I noticed a short open pipe sticking out of the front left of the plenum
chamber  and remains of charred rubber debris on the exhaust manifold.
Logic was slowly winning over panic, I got out the workshop manual (I always
carry it with me, an old habit from the Series-days - I'd rather drive naked
than without manual and toolbox) and had a good look. The hose connecting the
'extra air valve' to the plenum chamber clearly wasn't there anymore, it had
been blown clean off by the backdraft of the misfiring. 
Took a taxi up to the workshop, and after some rummaging we found the fitting
rubber hose. Went back to the disabled RR, installed the hose, turned the
ignition... started up and idled smoothly like nothing had ever happened.
Go figure...
As usual I am soliciting speculations a) what the hell this was?? , b) what
might have caused it, and c) how it can be prevented from reoccuring? Had
this happened in front of the crowded Mall instead of a deserted underground
garage I might be held liable now for old ladies suffering strokes, cats
freaking out, horses going wild, and other PC-related casualties.

BTW I think I'll give the RR a name after all... how about "The Cavitator",
or "Buffalo Bill"

Stefan
<Stefan R. Jacob, 100043.2400@CompuServe.com>

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From: Easton Trevor <TEASTON@DQC2.DOFASCO.CA>
Subject: Early Rovers in the snow
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 16:37:00 EST

Felicity Ross of Land Rover UK has contacted me regarding the early days of 
Land Rovers. Apparently they have lots of pictures of Land Rovers in 
deserts, jungles and farms but nothing of any in seriously snowy conditions. 
Can anyone help with photos from their archives of Canadian or US Land 
Rovers exploring, ploughing or working in the snow,

Trevor Easton 1962 SII SWB SW "Miss Golightly" teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 18:57:37 +0200
From: wills@spl.co.za (William Smith)

>So. What is the group wisdom in bush winches.

I've seen a different approach once in VERY muddy conditions.
Take out the spark plugs. Plug the holes with mutton/cheese cloth (Will make
turning the motor easier). Select low range. Insert crank handle and start
turning - preferably with a Frosty (beer) in your hand. 
Even running the engine at just above idle speed generated a wheel spin.
By cranking the motor we got her out.
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  William Smith                 Email: wills@SPLinux.spl.co.za
  SPL                           Voice: +27 (0)11 322 2117
  Johannesburg                  Fax  : +27 (0)11 322 2232
  South Africa                  Cell : 082 455 1816
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:09:24 +0200
From: wills@spl.co.za (William Smith)

>The other gadget I have heard about but never seen are winch hubs; the
>principle being that drums attached to the wheelnuts wind in two ropes
>as the front wheels turn, thus hauling you out.

We used them on our Army landy's (during conscription). They work well as long
as you can keep a straight line :-). We used chains instead of ropes.
Since the drums are not big you can only winch a short distance +- 1,5 metres
at a time.
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  William Smith                 Email: wills@SPLinux.spl.co.za
  SPL                           Voice: +27 (0)11 322 2117
  Johannesburg                  Fax  : +27 (0)11 322 2232
  South Africa                  Cell : 082 455 1816
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 10:07:23 PST
From: rlarson@lsil.com (Richard Larson Jr)
Subject: Re: D90 w/BMW engine?

----- Begin Included Message -----
I'm considering buying a '95 D90, but if an engine change is forthcoming
I'd hold off for a bit.
----- End Included Message -----

The last I heard, from two different LR salesmen, was that D90's might
not be sold in the US after '95.  Something about not meeting '96 safety
standards. Side impact was the big issue if I remember correctly. 
I hate to rely on car salesmen's truths/untruths though.  They were trying
to sell me at the time.  Does anyone have real information on 
'96 US Spec. D90's?

-Rick
'94 D90

Richard Larson Jr		ext. 7149

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 10:18:10 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: filter #'s

In message <199503220529.FAA02069@chunnel.uk.stratus.com> "walter c. swain 
(wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" writes:

> Several years ago Consumers Reports ran an article on their tests of oil
> filters.  They fell all over themselves praising the Fram filters, and

FYI, A company that got a bad review from consumer reports sued them a number of
years ago stating that their tests were bogus.  The primary defense that 
consumer reports used is that they were not a testing organization.  They 
operated an entertainment magazine and do not warrenty the accuracy ot their 
tests.  The primary purpose of the magizine was to provide rough tests to 
entertain readers.

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

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From: "Doug Sackinger" <DOUG@KIWI.IUPUI.EDU>
Date:          Wed, 22 Mar 1995 13:36:34 EST
Subject:       Arc/Info and Land Rovers

Just FYI
An interesting blurb in the new ArcNews  (vol 16 No. 4, page 18) about the 
Rover Group's use of ESRI GIS software for demographic analysis and 
marketing.  Mostly about the software, after all it is a promotional 
rag..  I wonder what their demographic profiles of potential 
customers pan out to...........do I qualify ??

Doug

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From: kirkwood@strider.fm.intel.com (Clayton Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 10:48:40 -0800
Subject: Re: D90 w/BMW engine?

On Mar 22, 10:07am, Richard Larson Jr wrote:
> Subject: Re: D90 w/BMW engine?

----- Begin Included Message -----
I'm considering buying a '95 D90, but if an engine change is forthcoming
I'd hold off for a bit.
----- End Included Message -----

The last I heard, from two different LR salesmen, was that D90's might
not be sold in the US after '95.  Something about not meeting '96 safety
standards. Side impact was the big issue if I remember correctly.
I hate to rely on car salesmen's truths/untruths though.  They were trying
to sell me at the time.  Does anyone have real information on
'96 US Spec. D90's?

-Rick
'94 D90

Richard Larson Jr		ext. 7149
>-- End of excerpt from Richard Larson Jr

FWIW, I too heard the same thing from the salesman. His spin was that the
Defender wouldn't have the airbags which was the critical issue.

-- 
Clayton R. Kirkwood, FM1-58, 916 356-5838

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:40:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Any Body Interested 

>From: harincar@internet.mdms.com (Tim Harincar)
>Subject: FS LAND ROVER '66 IIa 88
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 37 lines)]
>harincar@internet.mdms.com
>4045 Park Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55407
 

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:41:42 -0500 (EST)
From: James Kirkpatrick - INEN/F94 <jkirkpat@acs.ryerson.ca>
Subject: Range Rover Sway?

I'm sure this has been addressed before but can anyone shed any light on 
reducing the roll or sway in a Range Rover.

A classmate of mine has a 1993 Range Rover, he finds it a little nerve 
racking changing lanes at 100 km/h (60mph) and asked me for ideas.

First I suggested trading for my '55 Series I - Rejected
Second - The article in Feb LRO suggested switching the rear shocks those 
of like the 90 was popular trick - I don't know if you can do this with 
the air suspension.

If anyone has any low cost tricks or other ideas short of purchasing a 
suspension upgrade from a UK shop - or suggestions on what upgrades are 
best please let us know.

Jay Kirkpatrick
'55 Series I
'58 Series II
'69 Series IIA

jkirkpat@acs.ryerson.ca
 

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:56:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Humphrey <jh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Any body Interested

From: harincar@internet.mdms.com (Tim Harincar)
Subject: FS LAND ROVER '66 IIa 88
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 21:20:00 GMT
 
For Sale
 
1966 Land Rover Series IIa 88 Station Wagon
 
Lots of new parts in the last 2-3 years, including:
 
Brakes
Shocks
Tires
Exhaust (including manifold)
Carb (Zeneth)
Heater Core
Battery (New last fall)
Generator
Fuel pump (in-line filter added)
Lots & lots of little things (have full purchase records)
 
Frame is very sound. Body is in great shape. Runs excellent.
Interior needs minor work (some tears in original front seats); jump seats 
in great shape. 
 
Tropical roof; bonnet spare tire; original wheels; 83K miles; 
stored during winter.
 
Asking $5200
 
Contact:
Tim Harincar
(612) 822-9975(h)
(612) 661-1511(w)
harincar@internet.mdms.com
 
4045 Park Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55407
 

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:15:30 -0800 (PST)
From: "walter c. swain (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: filters

On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, TeriAnn Wakeman wrote:

> In message <199503220529.FAA02069@chunnel.uk.stratus.com> "walter c. swain 
> (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" writes:
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> consumer reports used is that they were not a testing organization.  They 
> operated an entertainment magazine and do not warrenty the accuracy ot 
their 
> tests.  The primary purpose of the magizine was to provide rough tests to 
> entertain readers.

Hi TeriAnn,

Well, one never knows what to make of all these CU stories.  I just find 
that, in the absence of other information, going with their 
recommendations is better than random selection.  I haven't seen any 
other systematic evaluation of automotive oil filters, and there are a 
lot of different brands available.  

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Walter C. Swain          |  wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us 
Davis Community Network  |
Davis, CA  USA           |   1967 109 IIA Safari, petrol

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Date: 22 Mar 95 16:31:11 EST
From: "Anthony J. Bonanno" <75034.3062@compuserve.com>
Subject: Fairey Overdrive Oil Level

Does anyone recall the correct way to top up the old Fairey Overdrive?  This
particular overdrive is one of the early Fairey models.  Access for filling is
by a 13/16" nut with a little "dipstick" attached to it and a small "full" mark
near the base of the stick.  The question is do you thread the nut (about a 1/2"
of travel) to its seated position to check the level or do you just insert the
dipstick without threading it into the casing..????  

Thanks!

Tony Bonanno
Santa Fe, NM

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: Early Rovers in the snow
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 9:04:17 EST

> Felicity Ross of Land Rover UK has contacted me regarding the early days of 
> Land Rovers. Apparently they have lots of pictures of Land Rovers in 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 10 lines)]
> Rovers exploring, ploughing or working in the snow,
> Trevor Easton 1962 SII SWB SW "Miss Golightly" teaston@dqc2.dofasco.ca

You could try contacting the Snowy Mountain Hydro electric Authority, as when
they were building this scheme they used Land Rovers, I think they had 
the largest fleet of Land Rovers (They had 700 at one time!!).  They have 
footage of Series 1's plouging through rivers, mud, and snow!  I have 
even seen some footage of a guy talking on a phone while driving a Series 
1 (Maybe the first Yuppie!!!!).  I don't know the address though.

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       My car is constipated,
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       It has not passed a 
                                                |       thing all day!!

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Re: S1
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 9:19:06 EST

> Try asking Pierre Ketteridge, if you haven't frightened him away!
> I have a magazine article which contains a picture of Pierre standing
> next to his 80" which I will scan and post if there are enough requests
> from people without dartboards!

Scan it in, I am always looking for new rover pics as wall paper for my 
X-term!!!!!!

--
==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       My car is constipated,
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       It has not passed a 
                                                |       thing all day!!

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:09:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "walter c. swain (wcswain@wheel.ucdavis.edu)" <wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Any body Interested

Jon,  Thanks, I got it, and sent it on to my Brother in St. Paul.  Such 
an opportunity.

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Walter C. Swain          |  wcswain@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us 
Davis Community Network  |
Davis, CA  USA           |   1967 109 IIA Safari SW

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 13:26:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject: WWW> Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co

From: Goodyear Webmaster <emkt@rds1121.goodyear.com>
Subject: WWW> Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.

GOODYEAR introduces Home Page on the World Wide Web

Akron, OH, March 1 -- Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., North
America's leading tire manufacturer, introduces the
Goodyear Home Page. Goodyear's server provides valuable
product information, plus a wealth of knowledge on tires
and vehicle maintenance.

The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. server address is:

<URL:http://www.goodyear.com>

The server contains a complete catalog of Goodyear's
consumer tire lines, including: features, benefits,
and a good look at the tire.  The Goodyear "Tire
Selector" recommends a tire line based on the
individual user's vehicle and driving needs.

The server's "Retailer Locator" finds the Goodyear
retailer closest to the user and provides important
information about that location.

Goodyear's "Tire School" provides tips on tires, vehicle 
maintenance, and driving skills.  In addition, it
contains a comprehensive auto racing schedule and a
calendar of Goodyear Blimp appearances.

webmaster@goodyear.com

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From: RICKCRIDER@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:56:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Advice please: Storing a LR

Peter:
I'll do one better.   'Store' it for you here in the Piedmont area of North
Carolina,  enclosed garage with heat & air & stereo,   provide insurance, and
promise no more than 10k per year.    How's that?    ;-)     Rick Crider

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From: sohearn@InterServ.Com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 20:35:33 PST
Subject: D90 w/BMW engine?

Daniel writes:

>Perhaps someone could help clear this up....I heard a rumor that the
>US D90's may be switching to a BMW V8. Anyone have any info on this?
> (size, model year, etc...)

I doubt we will see any BMW engines in US-spec Land Rovers, at least for
some time. There still seems to be doubt as to the 90's return in '96.
I imagine that the dealers would happily trade their 90 quota for Discoverys
anyway.

Most likely the BMW engines are more developed (i.e. 4 valves per cylinder,
etc.) and have higher rpm hp and torque peaks and not the flat power curves
of the ex-Buick V8. Not what you really want in a D90. Of course this is all
my speculation, maybe they do make good off-idle to 4000 rpm engines.

Unless you can find proof positive that the blue and white propeller is
going to find itself in a Land Rover I would seriously consider buying a '95.

- Stephen
  '94 D90 mit der Buick V8

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:35:42
Subject: Splitting this List
From: David Bartlett <bartlett@hlalapansi.win-uk.net>

I don't think the list should be split yet. It is not that large.
Besides how do you split it? It has been suggested a series/RR
type of split. Why not a technical/adventure split? Which
list should overlanding discussion be on? Whatever split is proposed
there will be opponents. As long as people continue to use sensible
subject lines in their submissions sorting through the digest is
easy. 

David.

__________________________________________________________________
bartlett@win-uk.net

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:59:57 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: more rover sightings

> There is an excellent land rover sighting on a Bud Light commercial of 

This was a big time sighting during the Superbowl.  At the time, I noted 
that the BL was in glass bottles, not a good idea.  

My bottle of Pineapple Crush says "Caution: Contents under pressure.  
Improper handling may cause bottle to break with force.  Cap may forcefully 
eject.  Point away face and people when opening."

Shake a bunch of bottles of beer around on top of a Land Rover going 
off-highway, and what you get is a cooler full of suds and empty bottles.  
(This discussion also prompted people to accuse me of prefering beer in 
cans, which I don't.)

I assume everyone saw the Disco given away on Wheel of Fortune last night 
(Tues)?  I got two calls in the space of a minute -- my girlfriend was 
pissed that my mom beat her to it.

I still get people being upset when I tell them that I've had the Matchbox 
fire engine they just spotted in the paper for quite a while. 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:59:53 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Re: painting question

Recent Painting questions, along with a thread in the home.repair newsgroup 
prompted one of those sincerely frightening experiences -- a idea formed 
itself right there in my brain.  

A year or so ago, my folks and I went to Monkey Wards to buy a new 
washer/dryer and stove.  One of the washers had a sign daring people to 
scratch it.  My dad (always one to have a go of it) gave it a try, 
unsuccessfully.  I put it down to his failing health, and stepped in to 
save the Sinasohn honor (ain't nothing we can't destroy).  I tried my level 
best, with key and quarter, and was equally unsuccessful at scratching it. 
 (I settled for bending the lid and pulling all the knobs off.)

It seems to me that this kind of paint might just be the perfect finish for 
a Land Rover.  Any thoughts?  

(btw, just kidding about bending the lid and the knobs.)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 23:39:30 -0800
From: cs@crl.com (Michael Carradine)
Subject: Re: Splitting this List

David Bartlett <bartlett@hlalapansi.win-uk.net> wrote:
>I don't think the list should be split yet. It is not that large.
 Besides how do you split it? It has been suggested a series/RR
 type of split. Why not a technical/adventure split?

 To split the list in half EVENLY, the "sightings" and "famous people
 with Rovers" can have one list, and everyone else on the other.

-Michael Carradine
 cs@crl.com  

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 23:42:36 -0800
From: justfred@netcom.com (Fred Heald)
Subject: re: Sighting on RCA Commercial

Pierce Reid <70004.4011@compuserve.com> notes a Rover sighting:
>Folks:
>Just word of a sighting of a Military Ser III on the RCA DSS Satellite Disk
>commercial.  It's actually a scene from the Bond Movie "The Living Daylights"
>where the Rover plunges through a stone wall and falls off the side of
>Gibralter.  Ouch.

I think we need a new disclaimer for movies: "No Land Rovers were harmed or
destroyed in the making of this film."

Fred Heald                                      justfred@netcom.com
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 01:58:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark Perry <rxq281@freenet.mb.ca>
Subject: S.11-III gearbox, oil filters

1. Lindsay Porter's Guide to Purchase & DIY Restoration of Land-Rover
Series 1,11 & III (pub. Haynes) has on p.204 a short section on fitting a
SIII synchro gearbox to a SII/IIA. He begins with the note that the
non-synchro box is tougher. It's "easy" enough to do, he says, but there
are various wrinkles WRT bell housing configurations, clutch release and
slave cylinder configurations, first motion shaft, oil sealing and gear
tooth numbers, etc. 
 2. Spin-on oil filters: I have one of those
nifty adapters and the Fram PH8A is indeed the one. A Pennzoil PZI-1 is
also apparently compatible. In Canada, Canadian Tire's Motomaster
17-1704-2 (which is in fact, a Fram PH8A) is the one spec'd for various
Fords. Fram's are cheaper at Wal-Mart, though, and even better, Castrol 
refunded my last one (CDN$2.47) for buying a case of their engine oil. 

Cheers,
Mark Perry
Wpg MB CA

'66 IIA 88"
If it isn't leaking,
it's probably out of something.

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