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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: More!
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 9:13:47 GMT

> > > Disco, and how Disco killed Def -- ??)
> > Please go on!
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 19 lines)]
> sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
> Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
> San Francisco, California
I agree.I cant wait for what happens when Joe Lucas says "Let there be light".

Cheers
Mike Rooth

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From: SE THOMAS <THOMSE-U@m4-arts.bham.ac.uk>
Date:         7 Feb 95 12:05:23 GMT
Subject:      2286 or 2052?????

In August I bought a 1964 IIA 2.25 Diesel (so I thought). It didn't
go too fast (they don't), it was noisy (they are, you know that) and
it was very smoky. No problem, new intake hose, recon injectors, re-
timing should improve it. It did, a bit.
It was going through oil like nobody's business, and only getting 15-
18 mpg, well we only paid 950 pounds, we knew it would take some
work. So over the last week we have removed the engine and on Friday
we took it to be rebored.
Yesterday I was told that my 2.25 was in fact just a 2 litre. Aside
from the shell-shock (well I expected it to have worn larger not
smaller) it didn't bother me, aside from the fuel and oil consumption
I was happy with it. But I need to know two things, can I get rebore
size pistons, rings and main bearings if the crank needs regrinding?
Also when we removed the valve compressor springs and collets there
were no oil control seals on top of the valve guides. If the bore
turns out to be okay could this have been the engine oil problem I
was having?? On the other hand could it have been compounding the
problem????
Thanks in advance, I will send this on even though I don't have the
engine numbers on me at the moment, but after reading up I think I
must have the late 50's 2052 engine, I will check the bore size with
the garage.
Yours in confusion
Stephen Thomas (0121 452 1405)

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:11:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: 2286 or 2052?????

"DIESEL ENGINES 322"
Now class, what we have here is a small bore version of the same 
engine.......
the 2 liter has "wet sleeves" and the normal pratice is to just to 
replace the pistons and sleeves....I have a series one club news letter 
and someone had a set of pistons and cylinders for sale cheap...do you 
think I can find the newsletter?...ha! It must have been #73 or 74....
the pistons are also different on top. the later engines were fitted with 
a modified swirl chamber to reduce noise (Ummm fellas?..It didn't work...)
so even if you got a different block (say a 2.25 petrol, fit your 
rods,crank and cam,new 2.25 diesel pistons) I'm not sure the 
2.25 diesel pistons will work with the early head.....if the sleeves are 
good in the 2 liter, I'd fit new rings and let it go....as to the valve 
seals, the early engines were fitted with "O" rings *inside* the valve 
guides... if you say that there is no provision for these, I'd have new 
guides fitted that take the the later seals (external)....
Perhapse a newer 2.25 or a 2.5 might be cheaper in the long run?

steve......

PS if you use the wet sleeves..replace the top and bottom seals on the 
cylinders...otherwise you will go from wet sleeves to wet sump in no time 
what so ever!!! 

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 95 08:02:06 EST
From: "Lapa, Hank" <hlapa@Zeus.signalcorp.com>
Subject: US Military Rovers

     Here's what I know from being there...
     
     The Land-Rover fits into a V-22 Osprey (tilt-rotor aircraft) and a 
     Hummer doesn't.  I used to work with folks supporting the Navy's V-22 
     Office, and coincidentally saw a viewgraph of that beloved silhouette 
     inside the hold of one of these things.  I think this is the seminal 
     reason that US Army Rangers here in the US had need for L-Rs.  Since 
     the Army pulled out of the V-22 program, leaving the Marines to fend 
     for themselves, the Army has no compelling reason to keep them.  
     Perhaps they should turn them over to the Marines against the day the 
     USMC has a few billion extra dollars not being spent in Somalia or 
     Haiti to actually buy some V-22s for their legitimate work.
     
     Also, in some places where US forces maintain(ed) a presence, local 
     law dictates that vehicles be purchased on the host economy.  Thus the 
     Navy EOD Team Rangey I saw outside my hangar at the US Naval Air 
     Station/International Airport in Bermuda.  Similarly, I understand 
     other Yank EOD units (in Scotland, for example) have driven Rovers.  
     
     Series Two, Through-and-Through,
     Hank

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From: Mike Rooth <M.J.Rooth@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 2286 or 2052?????
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:44:10 GMT

Steve,
LRW mag tells us that the 2litre was prone to cracked heads and
warns to check carefully.Certaianly valve guide oil seals will
add to oil consumption.I woudl suggest John Craddock as the best
place to try for spares for it.The 2.25 has a bore of 3.562"
with a 3.5" stroke(this is according to LRO).I would imagine the
2litre has the same stroke but was bored out.
Be interested to know how you get on.
Cheers
Mike Rooth

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 08:19:48 -0800
From: "TeriAnn Wakeman"  <twakeman@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Bleeding a SIII clutch

In message <9502060110.AA09838@ InterServ.Com> Mark Talbot writes:
> All, 
> Put the engine and gearbox back in my SIII this weekend, yep even with 3 foot 
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> tried the one-man-bleed-kit on the clutch system ??? 
> Mark 

E-Z bleed is the only thing i've tried that works for me.

TeriAnn

TeriAnn Wakeman        Large format photographers look at the world
twakeman@apple.com     upside down and backwards     
              
                         
                       

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Rube Goldberg
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 8:23:32 PST

> I went to the Rube Goldberg enginerring school of fine Arts....
> Where else would I learn to build such creative enginerring masterpieces.
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 47 lines)]
> >            #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
> --IAA14467.792174103/lint.cisco.com--

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 11:46:58 EST
From: robdav@sunshine.vab.paramax.com (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re:  The Land Rover Owner Daily Digest

Hello gang:
Miss you all.
Mercruiser running great!
Does anyone know where I could buy ant Doormobile pieces from without
having to deal with Mike Smith at East Coast Landrover (the self proclaimed
North American representative for the Doormobile Owners Club UK)?
If you know of a roof, bunks, seats, or any other bits, please E-mail
me directly.
Thanks.
R&D
P.S. still have one more rool bar that is not spoken for if anyone wants to
"get in" on the deal at cost!

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:09:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Russell U Wilson <ruwst+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Hummers(Hummve)

I just had to throw my opinion in to this as one who as put about 5,000 
miles on a Military hummve.  I spent 4 years in the U.S. Army and drove 
the sh*t out of my hummer.  Don't take this as a slag on Rovers, god 
knows I love mine, but....and here is the big BUT.  The hummer is without 
equal off road.  Here is the flip side though, the thing is a pig on the 
road.  Everything that makes it so great off-road makes it a kidney 
jarring beast on pavement.  Given a choice (in my dreams) of being given 
a 110 or a Hummer I'd take the 110.  As to why the Rangers had use for 
some 110s I can only guess but here is something for everyone to ponder.  
The U.S. is the only country to use the Hummer.  IF, and I say IF, you were 
an American force ie Rangers and you were in a place that you might not 
want to be caught in...A Hummer makes it kind of hard to be passed off as 
some of the locals.....or UN.   Here is another tid-bit. One of the 
Rangers primary functions is to provide support for the Delta Force which 
tries to use all non-U.S. equipment in case of capture we (the U.S.) can 
deny that the men are ours.  This is all guess work combined with what 
I've seen in the past.  So I'd say that they were going to do something 
somewhere that they were not supposed to be and needed a vehicle that 
would not scream  HERE COMES THE AMERICANS..  That is of course is these 
110s even exist....hell the Delta force doesn't even exist...right? ha ha ha
ha ha.....;)

Cheers from Pittsburgh
Russ

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 09:15:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Morgan Hannaford <morgan@nature.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Hybrid vigor

Well,  I'm giving a lecture to my Biology 1B class tonight here
at U.C. Berkeley.  The topic I think I'll cover is HYBRID VIGOR.
Hybrid vigor is a well known phenomenon in biology circles where
hybrids of two, inbred lineages are usually better competitors and
more fit.  A good example is mutt dogs.  They are usually smarter and
express fewer genetic diseases.

Well, enough bio diatribe, I have to go pet my dog.....

"Here Rover".........

Ciao,

Morgan

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Lorry insurance
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:47:14 UNDEFINED

/4.  How about insurance?  Do people find the rates particularly high?  I doubt
/they are below average, but one never knows. I'll contct my agent, but 
/wonderedif anyone had any insurance horror stories with D90's, particularly 
/in the wakeof certain idiotic comments on how they roll.

Are insurance rates for 90s bad in the US, then? (At LAST!!! Something more 
expensive? Yeeeeaaaahh!)

My 90 in the UK is unsured in the same band as things like Escort 1300s. They 
are seen as a low risk vehicle - slower than anything except a milk float and 
nobody bothers with insurance claims when they ding a landrover - the textured 
look adds street cred.

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        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: Tires....again
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:02:50 UNDEFINED

/Just to confuse the issue...I've got 205 16 radials *with*
/tubes(the same ones I had when it wore 6.00 16 cross ply
/boots) on my 88".No problems yet...touch wood.

Any advance on all radials, 3 running tubes, front right tubeless? (Bit of an 
oversight, that.........:(

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        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Lorries and Hummers
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:11:18 UNDEFINED

> LR are these based on, and how do they differ from other Land Rovers.  

/I believe that it was 110's and the US Army Rangers purchased them. The
/story I heard was that during the "Desert Storm" operation, the Rangers were
/sufficiently impressed when they saw 110's pulling out Hummers that were
/stuck in the sand. (I could be wrong, but it *does* sound good!) Also, you

There was a very funny article on Top Git^H^Hear where the reviewpillock was 
testing out a Hummer dolled-up for the road market. He got it bogged on a 
gentle sand slope (I'd have given it a go in my old Escort with a run 
up.....). Just at the most embarassing moment, a Disco putters disdainfully 
past with no discernable effort.

/gotta remember, the Hummers were designed for any idiot to drive - diesel

Seems some dont managed it........

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        Just another roadkill on the Information Superhighway
+++++++++++++++++++++++ None-%er #1 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@qvarsx.er.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Tires, again and again...
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 10:35:57 -0800 (PST)

> Just to confuse the issue...I've got 205 16 radials *with*
> tubes(the same ones I had when it wore 6.00 16 cross ply
> boots) on my 88".No problems yet...touch wood.
none

Maybe this is just one of those old rover tales, but I've been told by my 
wholesale tire dealer (and others) that the tubes for bias ply tires 
won't hold up in a radial tire due to the flexing and the resultant 
heat, with predictable and unpleasant consequences.  

Anybody know if this bit of conventional wisdom holds water, er... air? 

Walt Swain, 1967 109 IIA Safari SW
Davis, CA

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From: "RUPERT.OJ.HINE" <9155557@arran.sms.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 19:03:12 +0000
Subject: Introduction & Wheels/Tyres

Hi,

    Having read the digest for a little while I thought that I should 
possibly say hello. I was introduced to the list by Ian Stuart (Do I 
admit that?) and am a Vet Student at Edinburgh University in Sunny 
Scotland.

     On the more important side I too am a LR owner, although mine is 
one of Solihull's most aerodynamic creations - the 101. A SIII 88" 
owner before that I managed to buy the forward control last summer 
from Crook Bros. in Preston (UK) with only 6,000 km on the clock. 
Needless to say it is one of the thirstier of the Land Rovers - 
running a lovely big 3.5 V8!

     I noticed today that Stefan Jacob commented:

> On the 16" rims you can go as far as 9.00, though I would strongly advise
> to swap for 1-ton rims in that case, or your turn-around radius will be

     Are the "1-ton" rims that you are talking about the 101 rims, 
because they don't fit standard  Series Land Rover hubs. The Series 
have five wheel studs whereas the 101 (just to be different) had six.
Anyway, happy rovering,

            Rupert

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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 16:26:33 EST
From: CXKS46A@prodigy.com (MR ALEXANDER P GRICE)
Subject: TC 2000's

My nephew in Eugene, Oregon has an opportunity to buy a '67 TC2000 for
$450.  At that price, I told him he probably couldn't go wrong, especially
as it runs and has parts and mechanical manuals.  I mentioned about the
DeDion axle tubes that can get crushed by casual placement of floor jacks,
but couldn't really comment much further on what to look for.  More
importantly, do any of out northwest members have a recommendation on a
garage/mechanic in Eugene/Salem/Portland area?

    *----"Jeep may be famous, LAND-ROVER is Legendary"-----*
    |                                                      |
    |  Sandy Grice,  Rover Owners' Association of Virginia |
    |  E-Mail: CXKS46A@prodigy.com       FAX: 804-622-7056 |
    |  Voice: 804-622-7054 (Days)  804-423-4898 (Evenings) |
    |    1633 Melrose Pkwy., Norfolk, VA, 23508-1730 USA   |
    *------------------------------------------------------*

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 22:10:36 GMT
From: Lloyd Allison <lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Solihull

Joel Reiter's home page has the Rover tour on the world wide web -
link to it from
<A HREF="http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Home.Pages.html">homes</A>
(Does anyone else have a home page featuring Land-Rovers?)

Am I correct in thinking that Land-Rover import
Range Rovers, Discoveries and D90s (which are a special variant)
into the USA but not D110s or D130s ?
Can anyone tell me what dates the various imports (re-)started?
Are V8 D90s still being imported?
The UK D90s and D110s now seem to be limited to the 300 series 2.5 Tdi engine.

(Australia is importing V8 RRs, V8 Discoveries (not sure about diesel) and
Tdi D110s and D130s only - not D90s.)

Lloyd

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:33:12 +0200 (METDST)
From: S|ren Vels Christensen <velssvch@inet.uni-c.dk>
Subject: Re: Hummers(Hummve) (+)

On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Russell U Wilson wrote:

>        Everything that makes it so great off-road makes it a kidney 
> jarring beast on pavement.  

It's an experience!

> The U.S. is the only country to use the Hummer. 

Not quite. Gen. Michael Rose and other VIP's use Hummers in ex-Yugoslavia.
Also, a couple af years ago during an AMF exercise i got a lift in a Hummer
registered by the army of Luxembourg. I think the two guys WERE the army of
Luxembourg :-) 

Also got a lift with some italians in a Fiat mil off roader. It was 
basically a Fiat 127 (too small to be known in the US) with 4wd and taller
subchassis. It could smell various oils, petrol, exhaust, warm plastic,
rotting rubber, spicy food, wet upholstery and a few other things i couldn't 
identify. It sounded like everything was just about to fall apart. Nice 
chaps though.

Later
sv/aurens

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:55:02 -0800
From: Roger Sinasohn <sinasohn@crl.com>
Subject: Matchbox Land Rover Fire Engine

Matchbox has come out with a remake of a 1948 Land Rover Fire Engine.  It's 
 1/43 scale, and costs $26.95. It's only available via mail order, or 
through one of 4 Matchbox Collectibles outlets on the east coast.

The phone number to order or get more info is (800)858-0102.  I've ordered 
one, and will let you all know when it gets here.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uncle Roger                         "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn@crl.com                                that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California

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Date: 07 Feb 95 19:36:46 EST
From: "WILLIAM  L. LEACOCK" <75473.3572@compuserve.com>
Subject: digest 7 th Feb

Richard , sorry !! for moving birmingham further north , my excuse is that I
have worked in the aluminium radiator industry fo the past 18 years and exposure
to aluminium is noted for it's effect on the memoty, BAD.  and I have used
neither of those airports in my travels. 
 As an aside, my home in Stockton On Tees,( near to Teesside airport ) up in't
hills is called Solihull, when we bought the house 3 years ago my wife wanted to
give it a name, the name she mentioned sounded to me like that of a nursing home
so I told her and said why not give it a good name like Solihull ( honest I was
joking ) but she adopted the name, our neighbour is an ex  Solihull  resident
and she says she can't imagine anyone wanting to name thier  home after THAT
place.
 John Hess, the gasket was part number 598354 but it has been superseded, follow
Micheals advice and make your own from a piece of cornflake packet, also makes
good differential gaskets.

 Diesel engine rebuild, buy the ROVER manual, not the rubbish Haynes and follow
EXACTLY the valve timing procedure, this is important for the 'power'. Do not
follow the mechanics method of finding the high point on the cam, it has a flat
profile.
 Then follow the pictures for inserting the pump drive gear.
 The timing marks for the pump  are under a small steel plate on the side of the
pump, ser 2 did not have an external mark, this was added on ser 3. 
 After running the engine for a while time it by ' ear', fine tune the position
of the pump by moving it very slightly in the opposite direction to the arrow on
the nameplate and try it until you get the right engine knock and no smoke.

 Richard  asks about steering  rods :-
  jack up the front of the vehicle to raise the tyres from the ground
 turn the steering wheel from lock to lock and count the turns, at each
extermity check that the wheels are clear on the springs on the inside of the
tyre.
half the number of turns and turn the steering wheel this number, thus the wheel
is in the centre position. At this stage ignore the spoke positions. the front
wheels should be aligned for straight ahead, whether they are or not proceed as
follows.
 look at the steering idler top arm, this should be parallel to the front
crossmember that it is on top of. if not,  adjust the steering rod length by
slackening off the steering joint clamp screws and shortening or lengthening the
rod by rotating it, one end has a left hand screw thread and the other a right
hand screw thread.
 Examine the bottom arm on the steering idler, this should be pointing straight
ahead, that is parallel to the side of the chassis., if it is not remove it and
refit in the correct position,
 Now are the wheels aligned for the straight ahead position, if not adjust the
length of the drag link as described for the steering rod, until the wheels are
straight., check the full lock to lock position  to ensure that you have full
and equal travel both ways.
 While you are at it, particularly if it is a 109, you will notice that lock is
restricted by along screw in the swivel housing which strikes a plate on the
axle end, saw of the extension at the nut, or try to tighten it and it will
shear in this position or remove it and replace with a short screw only. this
will reduce your turning circle. Before you start  worrying about it, you will
only travel on full lock at very low speeds, unless you are an off road racer so
it will not damage your transmission to have FULL lock.
  If this does not improve your steering then give me a call, if you want to
increase the lock further there are other mods to do.
 now that the steering is central, remove and replace the steering wheel in the
position that suits your view, on a series 3 also centre the indicator switch
canceling boss.
 The procedure youa re following to lubricate the steering box is correct.
Follow the same exercise every day for 2 or three weeks or until two days in a
row you cant put in any more oil, the 90 oil takes AGES to seep through the gaps
in the bearings inside the relay into the bottom bearing.

  Mike Rooth writes about using tubes with 205 x 16 tyres, a word of advice, "
always insist upon Michelin or Avon 205 x 16 tubes for Radial tyres."  " Do not
use tubes that are marked for 6.00 or 6.50 x 16 tyres. The radial tubes ( which
can be used with cross ply tyres )  are of a softer material designes to be
gripped by the radial tyre. If you use the crosss ply tube you will be plagued
with punctures Many tyre shops fit ther cross ply tubes becuaste they are much
cheaper than the radial tubes. it.s not worth it as with the radial tyres a
puncture will often result in damaging the soft wall beyond repair. This also
applies to the Michelin  XY, XCL, XS, XC 4x4 etc range of tyres. use the
Michelin tuibes for the tyre size.

  Regards  Bill Leacock      Limey in exile.
 Next look at the 

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From: "Russell G. Dushin" <dushinrg@pr.cyanamid.com>
Subject: Re: Newby and already some "steering" Qs
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 20:06:11 EST

RP Kleihorst writes:

> A problem with the LWB is that the steering was rather vague. On the check 
> I had already noticed two worn tie-rods on the steering(?) arm: the arm that
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 11 lines)]
> the wrong steering arm? Can somebody measure up a correct LWB IIa steering 
> before I scrounge through the pile of SWB II parts and find one thats even 
> worse.

The arm you are talking about (relay to right swivel housing) can be used
to adjust the position of your steering wheel.  However, given the 
measurements above, and the claim that the lever on the relay arm is
straight when the steering wheel is straight (where are the tyres 
pointing in this case??) leads this lro to wonder if maybe someone at
some point in time removed the lever and put it back on one or two
splines off (of where it was beforehand).  The *two* levers on the relay
should be at 90 degree angles to one another, and the lower one should
point directly forward when the wheels are pointing straight forward.
Bugger the measurements.  Put your new tie rod ends on (got 'em yet?),
make certain your two levers on the relay are 90 degs apart, and
simply twist the arm (relay to right swivel pin hosing...the steering
drag link tube) until you have the steering wheel where you want it 
(while your wheels still point directly forward).

The *other* arm (the steering track rod, that connects the two wheels)
is used to adjust your toe in.  Again, bugger the measurements.  The
toe in should be adjusted so that the front of the wheels are cantalevered
inward 1/16" relative to the rear of the front wheels.  The easy way
that I was once told about (and it works) is to jack up the front end,
mark each tire with a strip of paint all around the outer perimeter,
make a jig-out of a nail and a 2x4-, then mark each tire (all around your
freshly painted perimeter), and make your measurements (at 3 and 9
o'clock).  A third hand is helpful.

> Also, while busy giving long due maintenance, I tried to oil the steering 
> relay in situ. According to the manuals, you'll have to remove two of the
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 6 lines)]
> upper relay arm is definetily in the way. In the end, I wasn't able to get 
> any oil in, it just kept pouring out of the opposite bolt hole. 

Oi.  There are a couple of types of relays here.  I think one has one
bolt near the top and the other has two (someone???).  You sure the 
manual states to remove the oil seal retainer bolts???  There should
be at least one bolt near the top of the relay housing.  You should
be able to snake some oil into it even without allowing for pressure
to escape if you use a thin hose or some such.  Then again, if all
the oil you did add came out the opposite bolt hole then maybe it
is full???

cheers,
rd/nigel

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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 20:25:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven M Denis  <denis@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tires, again and again...

Radial tubes are thicker...you can feel the difference when 'ya pick 'em 
up....Radial=heavy...bias=light.....I got really good at this when the 
light in the stock room broke and nobody could figure out where the 
wiring went.."Heft,heft,heft..Yep it's a radial!"...

really and for true....

steve......

"HEY! NICE JEEP,MISTER!"..........."Look,Kid,it's a ..Oh never mind..."

"NOTAJEEP"-1967 109 Station Wagon          Steven M. Denis
"        "-1957 107 Station Wagon          PO Box 61
"        "-1964 109 Pickup                 Erieville,New York USA
"        "_1967 109 NADA SW                13061

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Diesel woes!!!
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:44:25 EDT

Hi all,
        The other weekend I was driving along, when all of a sudden there 
was a load knock comming from the motor.  So I got towed home, and pondered
the dint in the pocket that this knock was going to cause.  Turns out 
that the pin that stops the combustion chamber from spinning round had 
planted it self on the top of no. 2 piston.  But how can that happen I 
hear you say, as the pin is held in by the head gasket and the block!  
Well the only way it could have gone in is through the combustion 
chamber, which it did by knocking a hole in the top of it.  But this is 
not the major woe.  When I was building the motor I had a new combustion 
chamber fitted to no. 2 cylinder, and it turns out that the machining 
joint made it so that the combustion chamber was recessed in the head, 
not level, so the combustion chamber has been copying the piston and 
moving up and down, the only problem is that when moving down, it has 
managed to wear through the head gasket and into the block and the 
piston.  Besides a block and piston shave, can any one out there see any 
way to fix the block, at the moment I am just going to chuck another 2.25 
diesel in that was pulled out of a series III when the owner wanted a 350 
chev put in, and is ment to run ok.

Yours, woefully pissed off, and off the road again!!!!!!!!

==============================================================================
Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       No Hill to Steep!
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       No Ditch to Deep!

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From: Craig Murray <craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au>
Subject: Engine conversions
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:12:24 EDT

Hi all,
        My experiance with engine conversions is that I had a 161 holden 
motor in my series 1, and now I have a 2.25 diesel in it.  The Holden 
soon died of dust inhalation (Does any one acctually know how to spell 
this word??) and the holden also had no power or torque at low rpm, and 
this is still with all original transmission.  The only non Land Rover 
part of my transmission is a Macnamara Diff lock in the rear axle, I 
would say non original, but I have Series II diffs a Series III Motor, 
Series IIA F sufix gear box and the original Series 1 Transfer case.  
Also of note, when you start uping the power of the motor, the 
transmission starts to take a pounding.  My brother with his 253 V8 
boasts that he has only broken a front diff, and that was because the 
pinion came loose, but does not menchion that he repleaced his gear box 
because first gear was missing a tooth, and when the gear box was 
inspected by the local Land Rover guru, when I needed a gear box, that 
every thing inside it was stuffed, so it would not have lasted much longer.
When my Land Rover is running, every thing may over take it on the high 
way, but, when I am up in the mountains it has no problems, and normally 
gets to places with a lot less trouble than every thing else.

This is my opinion, but if you are going to do a conversion, do it your 
self, if it breaks a million miles from no-where, then you know how it goes 
together, and might have an idea of how to fix it.

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Craig Murray                                    |       1955 Series 1 86"
LROC of Victoria Australia                      |       2.25 diesel 
LROC of Gippsland Victoria Australia            |       No Hill to Steep!
email: craigp@ocs.cpsg.com.au                   |       No Ditch to Deep!

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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 21:17:49 -0500
From: Andrew Steele <ad158@dayton.wright.edu>
Subject: US Jan 95 sales totals

Just a quick summary from the Wall Street Journal this week, some of these are
interesting (I think---)

                Jan 1995        Jan 1994        
        BMW     6,094           5,053           +20.6
        LR      1,097             380          +188.7
        Jaguar    857             827            +3.6
        Porsche   451             196          +130.1

Total Truck Domestic
             143,251         138,262            +3.6
Total Truck Import
               5,676           5,777            -1.7

Well, Land Rover was the obvious % sales increase leader this month.  

Is it time to buy stock in BMW?

Andrew
Dayton, OH
ad158@dayton.wright.edu

** please call if you find an unwanted diesel LR in the midwest, thanks.

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From: "Walter C. Swain" <wcswain@qvarsx.er.usgs.gov>
Subject: Re: Hummers(Hummve) (+)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 18:30:40 -0800 (PST)

To add to this growing bit of trivia, there was an AP (I think) photo in
the local rag last week showing a long column of Jordanian Army Humvees
doing their thing in the desert.  The best and most interesting part was
the Land Rover 90 leading the whole thing.  No fool, that commanding
officer. 

Regards,

Walt Swain

 On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Russell U Wilson wrote:
> >        Everything that makes it so great off-road makes it a kidney 
> > jarring beast on pavement.  
	 [ truncated by lro-digester (was 24 lines)]
> Later
> sv/aurens

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From: sohearn@InterServ.Com
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 95 19:26:49 PST
Subject: Re: Genesis

> I'll second that emotion!  (Do we sit, stand or kneel during this part?) 
> singing hallelujias...

I'd say we sit behind the wheel in our Rovers. What better than to be IN
the altar, eh?

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Stephen O'Hearn            1994           LAND-            Tread Lightly |
| El Segundo, CA, USA      DEFENDER           -ROVER         on Public and |
| sohearn@interserv.com       90        The Best 4x4xFar     Private Lands |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: 07 Feb 95 23:26:50 EST
From: "LESLIE C. STUTSMAN" <100042.254@compuserve.com>
Subject: Importing and all that good stuff

Those of you who have written recently about importing Your Land Rover : If
you Email us your telephone #, we can give you a few pointers that might help.

Uncle Brad - what an excellent rendition of my exact experience, although I
think you actually got a bit further than I.  I also inquired about the
EPA/DOT situation and got the same run around.  Would love to know if anyone
has sent any $ yet. Did you get any info on the duty/tax
 situation whic has not been paid on the vehicles.

 Cheers,

 Leslie Stutsman
 U.K. Land Rovers Import/Export Co.
 Ph/Fax 813-954-4304

 "2 Land Rovers Available in Florida and others
 for building to spec - email for more info"

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From: LANDROVER@delphi.com
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 00:11:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bleeding a SIII clutch

William Grouell screws springs into his slave....

> I have a spring loaded bleed screw in the slave. Just loosen the bleed 
> screw about a turn, attach hose to jar (if you care), pump slow 'till you
> feel no more bubbles (keep the reservour full), tighten screw, remove
> tube.

Marvelous little bleed screws - until they have been in a year or so... Had
them on the brakes on Fern.. The little rubber dust caps got lost in the mud
somewhere and the moisture/mud/whathaveyou did nasty things to the spring.
Had to replace them with regular bleed screws. I suppose they might be OK on
my Spitfire, which hardly ever goes out in bad weather, but not so good on
the Rovers.

Cheers
  Michael Loiodice       E-MAIL   landrover@delphi.com              
  166 W.Fulton St.       VOICE    (518) 773-2697                    
  Gloversville                                                      
  NY, 12078              1972 Ser III 88 Petrol (Fern) R.I.P.      
              7          1971 Ser IIa 88 Petrol
           #:-}>         1965 Ser IIa 88 Petrol

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From: Keerock2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:02:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Those surplus110s & 90s

Brad Blevins writes:

>I finally got hold of an outfit in VA which is supposedly selling US
Military
>spec. Land Rover 110s & 90s (1992) which are still in the crates. This is an
>equipment broker, as far as I can tell. 
>I introduced myself as the editor of the Aluminum Workhorse magazine and
told
>him that I was interested in letting our readers know the real story on the
>vehicles and perhaps even getting one myself (all true). The fellow I spoke
>to said yes, there are a bunch of them here in the U.S. (450 somewhere in
>Indiana) and more to come (for a total of 2000). And yes they could be
>purchased in smallish lots, perhaps as small as 10 vehicles. 

Yes, I'd love to hear anything more you can find out about these things.  And
hey, do they come with the Brooklyn Bridge, or is that a dealer option??

>And one of the postings mentioned that some of the
>engines were 170hp, 6.5 liter diesel V-8s. 

Wow, that's power.  However, I have to cross-reference this response to the
recent debate here on the net about engine-swapping.  To me the joy of
driving a vehicle, especially a special-interest vehicle, is driving it just
as the engineers planned the thing.  In high school I had a wonderful, stock
'67 Ford Mustang (well, it did have huge back tires and a little rake, but
all else was legit) that would blow the doors off of any other muscle car
around, including the idiots chopping the hell out of their Mustang's engine
compartments to make room for a big block Chevy.  It falls into the pride of
driving/ownership department.

>Well, it seems that the fellow I spoke to couldn't give me a satisfactory
>answer to my EPA/DOT concern, although he tried. I spoke to his boss about
it
>and he gave me some B.S. about how all military vehicles are exempt from
>these requirements. I can hear myself telling my local California DMV clerk
>THAT!

LOL.  Yes, the Cal DMV has NO sense of humor.  And by the way, they sure
didn't care about any military vehicle exemption when it came to licensing
our 1941 Jeep.  There may be exemptions for military vehicles, but
PREVIOUSLY-military vehicles now trying to roam the 405 Freeway are another
thing altogether.  Watch out on this one!

>Interestingly, he bagan to suggest that they might not want to have their
>firm's name splashed around 

A salesman who *doesn't* want publicity by word of mouth?  More danger signs
....

>And Andrew Wright has posted a message indicating that he is trying to pull
>together a group of 25 interested buyers to purchase some of the vehicles. I
>imagine he is in touch with a different company.

Okay, for all my (healthy) suspicions on this thing, if enough research is
done and it *does* eventually seem legit then I would be interested in
getting in on it (can I add a few more qualifiers?).  Put another way, I'd
hate like hell to pay $30,000+ for my Defender 90, then find out 2,000 got
dumped into the US market for rock-bottom prices.

-Dean Silliman
-Lake Arrowhead, CA, USA

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From: "T.F. Mills" <tomills@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Solihull (web links)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 00:26:52 -0700 (MST)

Lloyd Allison writes:
 
< Joel Reiter's home page has the Rover tour on the world wide web -
< link to it from
< <A HREF="http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeLand-Rover/Home.Pages.html">homes</A>
< (Does anyone else have a home page featuring Land-Rovers?)

My fledgling home page has links to the Rover Web and Lloyd's fantastic 
rovers, but no original material (yet).  I have to go out of my way to 
view my own home page (all I have readily available is lynx), so 
development is going to be slow.

Any of you who have mosaic or netscape access definitely should take a 
look at Lloyd's excellent layout (which includes a pointer to the 
RoverWeb, mostly developed by Dixon Kenner and Greg Hiner, and now in the 
care of Ray Harder -- I hope I gave all proper credit where due!)

As long as I leave my web address in my .sig below, it is all you need to 
find Lloyd's stuff (in case you lose his address).  I hope this is not 
some sort of violation of copyright or netiquette.

 
T. F. Mills                                              tomills@du.edu
University of Denver Library  2150 E. Evans Ave.  Denver  CO 80208  USA
      http://mercury.cair.du.edu/~tomills (under construction)

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