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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 11:44:02 -0400
From: jhong@haiku.com (John Hong)
Subject: Re: Generators

David John

Thanks for the info and tips.  Synthetic oil in the generator I can swing 
-using synthetic in my rover would be a SIGNIFICANT operating expense. :(

Well, off to the autoparts store - new fuel line, gear lube and brake fluid.
Also, all this hot driving talk has prompted me to finally replace my 
missing manifold heat shield.

putt putt putt

 John Hong 

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From: Russell Burns <burns@cisco.com>
Subject: Rover Rally
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 21:26:46 MDT

Any one going to the Land Rover rally in Colorado??
It looks like I will be tenting it in Moab, and Alamosa.
At present I am planning to camp at Dead Horse state park, as
they have water. There are some group campsites available if there is
enough interest. I don't imagine that there will be too many tenters in
moab in august.
Moab should be a good test for the rovers cooling system..

See ya in Colorado

Russ

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Subject: bits and pieces
From: rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (Robin Craig)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 21:48:46 -0500

Howdy folks, been real busy for a little while so this is a message to 
all so check whats in it for you!

Discovery Book, forgot to mention, except for the cover all pictures are 
black and white. Also is 112 pages long and is about 8in by 10 inches in 
size and hardbacked.

Locally here in Ottawa we have a Land Rover dealer again for the first 
time in 20 years (aprox). Westboro Land Rover have their first vehicles 
outside and in 2 Discovery and One Range Rover and a ninety. No new 
signage as yet. The news of this dealership has been local knowledge for 
a while now but I just thought I'd pass it on.

Thanks to all of you who passed comment re my piece in LRO. Shame they 
hacked it down. Just one note, the pictures are by Andy and myself, just 
thought I would set that one straight.

Below is a verbatim quote from a Land Rover Canada press release that I 
have just received. It makes for interesting reading.

"LIMITED TIME SPECIAL OFFER FOR 1994 DEFENDER 90 (headline)

Land Rover is having a nation wide program for 1994 Defender 90s

The only V8 powered sport utilityof its kind available in Canada says 
Alan Manessy MD LRC INC.,We beat the drum loudly when we introduced it 
last November. After all, this was a highly versatile basic vehicle with 
all the traditional Land Rover capabilities. It offered buyers the 
opportunity to tailor the Defender 90 for anything from scientific filed 
research and extreme off roading to toting surf boards to the beach or 
mountain bikes to the nearest hills.

The company's promotional activities generated considerable initial 
interest; higher than that shown in the Range Rover over the past few 
years. But interest did not translate into sales! An informal survey 
among dealers and potential customers disclosed a problem. Although the 
Defender 90 had an attractive base price, when the customer started 
detailing the finishes and changes the way they wanted, buyers found the 
final price too rich.

When we listed Defender 90last fall, the price for a topless two seater 
with a tonneau cover was 33,800 $ CDN . We are continuing that original 
list price with the special offer while quantities last or until 31 
August 1994. The package for the 1994 Defender 90 will INCLUDE a full 
soft top kit, alloy wheels and freight. Also in the package is a rear 
seat and running boards or the choice of equal value accessories.

We thought, and still think, the concept of the Defender 90was great, 
particularly in the versatility it offers each buyer. We did our best to 
let people know the various options cost extra, but either the message 
didnt get through or they felt the extras added up to more than they were 
prepared to pay.

With this program, we are keeping our integrity intact while regaining 
the trust of any of those we may have inadvertantly alienated.

Would be purchasers are encoureged to contact their nearest Land Rover 
dealer.

end

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Back to me now, my comments on the 90 are this. Simply put it is a 
remarkably agile vehicle that most people will never use to its fullest. 
With the purchase price of an originally priced 90 with all the bits MOST 
people would want on it, rear seats, full soft top and the rims you could 
buy two lesser priced sport utility vehicles.

the consume just does not want to buy a vehicle like this and pay extra 
for all those goodies.

let me explain here, when my kids go into a store and see a toy they want 
to buy with their allowance they get a shock when the sales clerk rings 
it up 'cos the price thay saw it not the price they pay because of the 
sales taxes involved.

I use that analagy because I felt that the vehcile should have been 
offered in a fully kitted out version only as standard. Ina way that 
woould have reduced the aggravation for the supply system in that the 
only options I would have offered would have been a winch and running 
boards and something that I feel must be in the pipeline ..... a 
removeable and storeable hard top. This has been sadly lacking and to the 
types of people who own a 90 with the kind of toys they have they want 
security that is just not there with the soft top. In addition I feel 
that the hard top would be a good way to cut down on the noise that every 
one is wrongly whining about. How many soft top vehciles do you know of 
are quiet as a whisper inside, give me a break automotive journalists of 
North America.

In Canada the market for many products does not mirror that of the US. We 
have some weird anomalies that get thrown up and this is one of them I 
feel.

I do know this though, Alan Manessy is a determined and agrressive sales 
person and he will do all he can to get the 90 moving again and will put 
into place the kind of changes that the consumer wants, so watch closely 
on this one.

NEWS,

We will soon be having ENRIQUE VELEZ from San Juan on the system, he is a 
Range Rover owner and a financier by proffession. He is currently 
involved with the setting up of a full finnacial service behind the San 
Juan dealership that is unfolding as we speak.

A BIG thank you to the folks at ROVERS NORTH for sending him my way, 
please pass that on Jan! 

Will be away for a few days now, thanks for all your email, will reply on 
tuesday people.

TTFN

Robin Craig, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Robin Craig, rc@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Nepean, Ontario, Canada

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